Are we rooting for what? Nuclear warfare? destruction of the entire ecosystem by Capitalism? We can't even be completely sure either will happen, and frankly, i've never been fond of either outcome.
I give the fuck up, I choose ataraxia, may the light take us.
someone explain how the CDU is in anyway remotely leftist ?
What
Letting in brownies and such, technically a large support for AfD is generated through anti-muslim sentiment.
it doesn't matter whether it is or not, the reactionaries will claim it is.
I'm for team Giant Meteor.
Leftism is the final spook to spook 'em all, lads.
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No. Trump will win, this is a fact. I'll screenshot this to rub it in your faces.
Or rather not. it won't be neccessary Holla Forums will do that for me.
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Why would this even bother you? You realise that as soon as muzzies are the majority you'll be beaten and tortured for not being muzzie enough.
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you will live to see all of this user
Shitposting IRL existed before the Internet.
No one is going to tolerate overbearing Fascist shit again. At most immigration and sex laws will be tightened, for a little while at least, but no goose-stepping. We'll see some small support for "traditional values" but that will be as a knee-jerk reaction to the shitstorm that just took place.
Fuck of. Not an answer. Why are leftists inherently protective of the most ass-backwards reactionary shitcunts on the planet?
If god actually is real I'm converting to Judaism.
That way if I be a proper and righteous mensch god will protect me.
Jesus, why is Holla Forums so obvious?
I'm protective of everyone's right to believe in whatever mythical sky deity they want to.
don't let your memes only be dreams
Sure thing pal, just like all those times workers have spontaneously turned full communist overnight and not at all ever compromised with the existing Capitalist system.
Is tumblr the left-wing culture and identity you want, because that's the only remotely, vaguely leftist discourse carried out with any momentum on social media.
You've a singleicious fact to snack that up?
You've a singleicious fact to snack that up?
You've a singleicious fact to snack that up?
You've a singleicious fact to snack that up?
You've a singleicious fact to snack that up?
You've a singleicious fact to snack that up?
You've a singleicious fact to snack that up?
You've a singleicious fact to snack that up?
You've a singleicious fact to snack that up?
"It's inevitable comrade" is not a fact fundamented on any sort of reality.
Why are australians taking their cues from a bunch of american fascists? Use that sack of shit called your head for once in your life you goon-swilling retard.
Guess all that hanging gays from cranes must be western propaganda
Get fucked, cunt, we all know you'd be doing the hanging if you could.
Nod an argumend.
Also irrevocably false. I would not hang a gay just for being a gay.
Nice try, Holla Forums, but you're not fooling anyone.
Would you hang a muslim just for being a muslim?
I'd hang him for violating the law in such a way it merits a goddamn hanging.
What do you think I am? some sort of muslim who hangs people for no good reason?
same dif you stupid cunt
The way you're acting? Pretty much
Just how thick are you?
Unlike muslims, in the west, we do not generally support death penalty for victimless crimes such as consensually fucking another man in the ass.
You can be arrested for indecent exposure but nobody is going to stone you to fucking death for showing your ankles by accident; and even if they do they're likely to be tried for murder.
Nice try.
Just because I'm perfectly honest for my distaste of muslims doesn't mean I would deny their basic humand decency spooks, I bet I could even be friends with one given the chance.
Why are you so sensitive about this anyways?
yes, I've read the book
It says here it's inevitable
Top kek m8
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Gave yourself away with the first sentence.
I'm calling it now folks.
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Generally, the displacement of frustration and indignation regarding one's place in society and the displacement of insecurity regarding one's future onto a looming, external malevolent threat is one of the most basic plays of fascism.
This genocide of whites meme is the calling card of the fascist ideologue in the 21st century. It's not that anyone here particularly likes reactionary Muslims - odds are that most people share your views of them. But you're not concerned with reactionaries, the reactionariness of these Muslims is clearly secondary to their Muslimness to you. As it happened, there were a number of secular governments and secular movements across the Muslim world in the past that didn't support reactionary barbaric legal codes and outdated tribal norms. Predictably, western imperialists stamped them out in favour of the religious reactionaries that hold power today.
It's less a matter of being sensitive and more a matter of you sounding like a fascist, or at least a xenophobic liberal.
I saw a 4chan post this reminds me of that had me loling. It went like this:
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False. You're assuming I do not know of the secular governments that used to rule in the middle east, I am a staunch supporter of Assad in that regard and for that very reason.
You are just sensitive to my tone. Like I said before, I have a strong distaste for the mohamedan religion but this doesn't mean I am adverse to everyone who might practice it, just like I might have a strong distaste for liberalism and yet many fo my friends are liberals to the core. I find my position to be entirely non-inductive to bigotry, but I guess it's my fault you don't get this from the way I speak about them.
On the other hand, you mentioned me being possibly a fascist or a xenophobic liberal, disregarding the legitimacy of any concerns that I might have by associating my statements with views that are stigmatized within the narrative of the board; i find this extremely disingenuous.
First of all I'd like to say I am not entirely white and I don't even live in a country that's recieving any significant ammout of so-called refugees, so you can withdraw the anuddah shoah card.
Secondly, it's important to note here that this statement of yours is dependant on false presupositions that denote your own ideological affectations and impose axiomatical guidelines for opinions to be considered as valid within the discourse, specifically: That verbal hostility towards "muslims" is a connotation of xenophobia or fascism, correlation does not imply causation.
Besides my already-stated personal disposition towards muslims, my main concern with these unbrideled modes of immigration are fundamented on the economical reasons the leading elites in places like Sweden have, where they suffer declining or stagnant population growth so they seek to replace the current native populations with a people clearly shown to be more than willing to fuck their way through life and breed like rabbits.
This is to speak nothing of the complete and utter lack of consideration of logistical challenges faced when importing thousands upon thousands of bodies from a completely different part of the world who have lived most of their lives steeped in cultural and ideological backgrounds that are entirely different to their new host nations, an absolute disregard for nuanced and complex situations of the more subtle kind; why? Because these elites do not care about the native populations they exploint and they won't care for the muslims they are importing to replace them either, and what's worse, they have absolutely no idea of why this is a bad idea and why it will make everything worse for everyone because they have a huge hubris and they think that simply displacing populations with more stupid people is any good.
In short: Muslims a shit, people importing them an even bigger shit.
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they work for less so they drive wages down for everyone else in the best case scenario
worst case scenario they leech off of welfare that the native working class pays for with taxes
ideal solution is to gas the all to death, but I'm happy with deportation
Sounds like you are getting cucked by capitalsist
Good to hear
I would prefer to live off comfortably getting cucked by a capitalist than to starve to death like the ukrainians during holodomor or venezuelans right now, which means getting cucked out of the gene pool
Enjoy the BBC and HBC taking over your job, country and women then
I bet you also wear a chastity cage classcuck lel
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every society has its degenerates which through poor choices and shit parenting declined into or lived through poverty, just as any society has successful people
to say that class is a spook is to be a nigger who wants to take another man's fruits of labour
Islamists are just another kind of fascist. They're just fighting each other. We must bring them together through gulag.
No it was not you dumb faggot, besides there are several ideologies inside socialism, so even if they were that doesn't mean other socialists ideologies are the same
Wat, are you a communist now?
that would imply that they have an arms industry in the first place
where the fuck are the armored vehicle and arms factories in syria? it's all imported from ( ((israel) )), (( (the us government) )) and (( (saudi arabia) ))
the only practical type of socialism is state capitalism you dumb somalian nigger
statelessness being replaced is a question of time
Take off your flag right now you spooked faggot piece of shit.
property rights, inheritance and hierarchy is inherent to people wanting to do said labour
I don't necessarily disagree with you and I never said you were a fascist/xenophobe: I said you sound like one. If I see a girl with rainbow-coloured hair in leggings and thick frame glasses, I'm going to say that she looks like a spooked liberal. She might not be, but it's a fair assumption to make. You asked why people are sensitive, I answered. Most people who start off talking about how much they dislike Muslims here are Holla Forumsyps trying to get their foot in the door by appealing to our dislike for reactionaries. If you open talking the same way, people are going to assume you're a Holla Forumsyp yourself.
Then why do you always bring up Muslims as the enemy and the bad thing rather than reactionaries? The only times you've brought up the quality of being reactionary has been as a subordinate characteristic of Muslimness. You do know there's non-reactionary Muslims, right?
You don't get gulag. We shoot you against wall likie pig dog. :V
There's a good chance one of them is working while you shitpost.
Lmao, you surely are fucking stupid
Socdem and syndicalism has proved to be many times better, but of course you are a classcuck and cant see why
WEW
Try reading a book
Thanks for correcting the record
Seems like you enjoy being a classcuck then, since hierarchical property rights stop you from receiven all the value of your labour
if workers wouldn't need management and executives to function properly, then all the pajeets wouldn't migrate to the silicon valley to shit up their IT industry for easy cash and instead create a giant 1st world utopia in india, but they don't, because the workers need management
so, not working class, but a NEET? lel
Trumps election shows the republican base is to the left of them on trade
I fail to see how this is a negative to the left
Alright, very good point.
Weren't we specifically talking about muslims and how they're largely reactionary and backwards?
I already expanded upon my thoughts on the previous post.
I am sure of it, but I don't see how this is relevant when we're speaking in general terms of what's substantially self-evident when one looks at muslim population, It's kind of like saying some americans are anti-imperialist or that some men are rapists.
stop appropriating nationalist culture sinner
Is Holla Forums under the impression that if you believe in something hard enough, it will come true?
I don't know, have we tried it before so we can cross it off the list of not-socialisms?
ehh doubtful
It just makes you wrong.
Verily.
I have seen the signs.
So you'd vote Democrat 30 years ago
Not an argument!
Yes it is. How do you know it's a working system if it has never been successfully implemented in a national level?
no
Management and executive work can and has been taken care by the workers themselves
Stay classcucked
Good thing I am a post-work anarchist
Thanks for the NEETbux wageslave!
Do you even understand how syndicalism work
Try reading a book first
then why was Afghanistan, Albania, Angola, Benin, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Cambodia, China, Cuba, Congo, Croatia, Czechoslovakia, Ethiopia, Germany, Hungary, Kosovo, Laos, Macedonia, Mongolia, Montenegro, Mozambique, North Korea, Poland. Romania, Russia, Serbia, Slovenia, Somalia, Yemen and Vietnam shit under a communist government?
There is your answer
Most of them are under a cappie goverment now and are equally as shit
gas yourself anarcho-somalian faggot
You said it was a working model for socialism
but
it
has
never
taken
place
in
an
entire
country,
faggot.
How do you know something works if it has never been tried before?
The book I posted is not about syndicalism at all you inbreed faggot
Top kek, read a book
Syndicalism is not a form of goverment you inbreed faggot
Its workers unionsz which have pretty much shapped the western world and is why living and working conditions there are much better than in china or india
Next time you leave your wageslave after your 8 hour shift remember workerw union fought for that right, and if you have a 12 hour workshift, remember porky stopped worker before you fromforming a syndicate
Good god, Im really handing both of your pathetic asses like if there is no tomorrow
what do you live off of, you fucking cretin?
what syndicate? does it operate innawoods?
Nigger, do I have to direct you to the first image here again?
Hillary is ahead, she's always been ahead and there's no way Trump can make up the distance in the time he has left.
I am not syndicalised because I work for a small english institute and my co-workers are the biggest classcucks ever
But the teachers syndicate here only protects goverment workers, which is why syndicate reforms are bound to pass
Where do you work faggot? Are you sindicalised? Why not?
You Nazis are a special kind of retarded.
And it's also not a form of working socialism you double inbred faggot, it continues to opperate within capitalist dynamics, it does not facilitate the transition to stateless, classless society.
Worker rights=/= socialism
Better labor conditions =/=socialism
etc.
Hillary will not be president of the United States.
so how will a syndicalist society negotiate wages within syndicates between the chief and the member that is different from how a capitalist society negotiates wages within companies between the employer and employee?
pick none
Do you have any reason to believe that Trump will pull a surprise victory?
Top kek
Double top kek, you are fucking stupid
Read a book
The leverage imposed by the syndicate on the capitalist is bigger than a one man strike, as one man striking is easily repacled withnthe existing surplus labour
Read a book
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wonder how all this striking is working out in the dindu capital of europe, paris
Context needed
wow, what a great thread
Even if he would normally not win this election (which I think he is in any case, regardless of polling) Hillary will simply not be sat in the oval office, be it by scandal or health or both.
I never said that you stupid fuck, show me how syndicates control the productive force today.. you can't because they don't, because Capitalists still exist.
The coming automation of all industrial production, the mass deaths caused by climate change, the concentration of geopolitical power into metropolitan areas of the anglosphere - that's what I'm waiting for.
It doesn't really matter how small radical politics becomes and how influential the right may seem right now. What matters is how well radical groups adapt to the changing conditions of capitalism so that we can best exploit the geopolitical unrest that will result from climate change and the concentration of political power and industrial production power. The time for mass movements is starting to fade away, and for the better as far as I'm concerned.
top kek, dumb faggot literally backpedalling now
just because there is an exchange in commodities doesn't mean there is capitalism, as market socialism exists
Where do you live? I assume america which doesn't surprise me, as America had one of the strongest syndicate and worker's union movememnts at the beginning of the XXth century, until neoliberal reforms that even made workers union illegals in almost half the states of the country
If you have any time to spare between being a huge fucking faggot and being a huge fucking retard try educating yourself watching and reading about worker's union in America
youtube.com
youtube.com
en.wikipedia.org
Syndicalism doesn't aim to destroy the capitalists mode of production as its main goal, that would be a byproduct of syndicates gaining control of the productive forces
Syndicates and Social Reforms have workerd in the past, are working in the present and will continue to work in the future unless porky actually turns the world into a global authoritarian regime
read a fucking book faggot
If by syndicates you just mean unions it co-ops sure
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You guys keep memeing it but it won't fucking happen. Literally all predictions by people who professionally calculate poll data show hillary will win, probably by a landslide. When trump won the nomination and the media was shitting on him he had extremely high poll numbers, anyone paying attention knew he had it in the bag. The difference now is that nothing is on his side. He's not going to pull tens of millions of invisible americans out of a hat and into voting booths, they just don't exist.
explain this whole year then. explain bane plane.
this
Her scandals or health will have to take her in the next 6 days if that's going to happen.
Which it won't.
If she is, somehow, disqualified from the presidency before she can take office, it will simply go to her VP and we'll have a President Kaine.
But that isn't happening you dull piece of shit.
I'm sure that better working conditions that ensure higher productivity and whose costs are eventually offset by increasing prices are such a blow to Capitalism, wow it will never recover, how inevitable is our march to socialism now thanks to worker's unions.
Oh and god forbid porky wakes up to the inevitable qualities of the slow syndicalist revolution, that certainly hasn't happened before nor is it happening right now.
Capitalists are good boys, they dindu nuffin. The only reason they're driving down the wages is because they make more money that way. That's just how capitalism works. If you don't like it start your own business and be your own boss, but clearly nobody would do that because you wouldn't make any money that way - you get paid more by working for a smart capitalist than being your own boss since you probably don't have anything to sell and the bank probably won't even give you money to buy machines to make stuff with. Since working for a capitalism makes you more money than building socialism by yourself, then capitalism is clearly the superior system.
That's why if you have something to sell you shouldn't pay anything to the people who help you sell it and make the stuff you're selling, so you can make more money. Once nobody is able to buy your stuff because because you're taking in more money in profits than you're giving in wages, then you know you've won at capitalism because you and other hard-working entrepreneurs like you have all the money and nobody else can buy stuff or have homes because that stuff is all given out based on money.
And then, as a bonus prize, the government will try and start people spending money again by putting money into the economy, except they'll just give it all straight to bankers who will use it to buy stock in and invest in your and your friends' companies, making you even richer!
Once you have all the tax dollars too, then that's like winning the special bonus round.
That's basically what the American dream is, what we're all striving towards. Sure, not everyone can win, and if you're one of those people who doesn't own a business or one of those people whose business wasn't big and wealthy enough to survive the end of demand, then tough luck. You didn't deserve to win. That's what happens when you don't work hard. You should've pulled on your bootstraps harder. You should have started a business back when it was still profitable to do so and accumulated at a fast enough pace to survive the contraction of the economy where all the people who got in late die off since they can't absorb the loss, preferably by coming to America in a big ocean liner with nothing but two nickels in your pockets and the clothes on your back. Anyone can do this, so don't bitch. I mean you have a toothbrush and a smartphone and you probably even have a refrigerator in your home. You think socialism could have given you that?
"Not leftist" != fascist, and the shit the CDU is pulling with the migrants is shit the lefties would support too.
For people who want Germany for Germans, fascism is the only option.
Poles r riggy.
If you think Assange is going to release information to swing the election, he should have done it by now. Most votes are already in through early voting and they massively favor Hillary.
trump will lose
Wanting lots of unskilled, cheap labor and people to drive up demand isn't leftist, it's porky at work.
Nice try depressive Holla Forums falseflagger, but things aren't that bad.
A better question what could assange release that about hill that would swing the election? Short of a video of her saying "fucking kill all niggers and spics".
Everyone already knows her curroption has no end
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Assange has never been about swinging the election.
COMMIES WATCH OUT
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Be ready for it.
I live in Arizona and there's more hispanics than white people here. It's gonna be fun fighting off Nazis here. Feel sorry for Hispanics elsewhere though
Lol neo Nazis are about as disciplined as a bag of rotten fruit. It's going to be fun BTFOing your fat dumbs asses. I'm ready
Really aching to get sent back to the gulag?
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why does this happns Holla Forums?
i remember years ago that everyonewas saying that venezuela was the true real socialist utopia
now it has failed, it never was don't not real socialism (tm)
just like reddit
No.
Shut the fuck up.
nobody said that
if they did they were objectively wrong
google the definition of socialism
nobody thinks that socialism hasn't been tried either, you just sound like somebody who's never talked to a socialist
Yeah, look Holla Forums, Is know social liberals are full of shit and don't know shit about socialism the way you do.
What else is new?
do you think those baner were done for the lulz?
lmao
and no, there are marxist that believes venezuela is socialist
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It literally is not socialist. Please, just google 'socialism definition'. Seriously
It's still shit
top kek
It's still shit, regardless
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I'm pretty sure those two are generally two separate groups of people. From my observations I think I figured out how does it work:
1) Some country uses left-wing rhetoric and does some left-wing reforms(like welfare, bigger pay or some other shit)
2) People get excited over it aside from few pretentious autists reading theory who say It Is Not Real Socialismโข, but they are shat on for being sectarian goo goo gah gahs
3) Said country goes to shit/whores itself to capitalists
4) Poeople who got excited before shut up to save themselves from further embarrassment while the pretentious autists reading theory act smug because they were correct in saying It Was Not Real Socialismโข
soยทcialยทism
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noun
noun: socialism
>a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
and venezuela is doing this
chavez expropiated moe than 1,200 busines in lessthan ten years
>synonyms: leftism, welfarism; More
radicalism, progressivism, social democracy;
venezuela is doing
chavez created the communes
lmao venezuela depends 97% on oil revenue
and oil is state/public owned
so if it failed it was only because of that
The more times go on, the more I begin to realise Holla Forums was right. Yes, it is true. Modern Marxism is just as subversive as capitalism. The materialistic view of life on which both systems are based is identical. As long as we only talk about economic classes, profit, salaries, and production, and as long as we believe that real human progress is determined by a particular system of distribution of wealth and goods, then we are not even close to what is essential. Holla Forums chases after to fulfill the most primal and basic evolutionary need, family. Something you cannot call a "spook" as it is solidified heavily in observable nature and objective reality. The very basis and fabric of our genetic being to the most codified level. We cannot submit to egoism and sit around like children decrying all things as "spooks" any more than we can commit ourselves, our whole lives to being slaves to capital and materialism whether in the form of capitalism or Marxism.
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when did the workers own the means of production
Well, nuclear family, the family unit typically wanted by Holla Forumslacks and such is actually a very, very new thing. Also the breakdown of family as a social unit is caused by capitalism too, but you already know that, don't you? ;^)
Also I've got a strange feeling you don't know what materialism and idealism mean in philosophy.
So was it human nature that anarchist societies thrived and survived, without there being a massive death toll?
Was it human nature then, for fascists to go full retard and conduct mass genocide?
Was it human nature that compells people to bomb each other or to help people get out of the wreckage after said bomb?
Human nature is a spook, you dumb bibblering pseudo intellectual bitch
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You didn't realize shit. You were a nazi to begin with. Maybe if you didn't get all your learnings from Mein Kampf and stormfront you'd realize that historical materialism is simply the study of how changing material conditions affected human society.
By understanding how that process works, you will understand how to change society for the better by changing the material basis. Nazi """"insights"""" about muh family muh heritage muh joos, on the other hand, serve absolutely no purpose but to reinforce the fragile egos of overly emotional and resentful reactionaries such as yourself, and give good gut feelings to people too stupid or too cowardly to understand how human society works.
Nice try, Holla Forumsyp.
Oh hello fellow leftists, I was just reading Bill Mitchell's twitter feed and managing my twitter account @AryanwrathPepe148- er reading Marx, when I realized our movement was dying and we should all just renounce our views haha wouldn't that be crazy.
It's kinda poetic that Ebola was as much as an incel beta bitch as any of his modern followers. Really goes to show that these faggots are concerned about white demographic decline because they have no chance of ever pleasing a woman.
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All this kvetching ITT.
go and shitpost somewhere else. Leftism has been through harder times.
The truly funny thing is that most of American politics of the last 40 years, from city councils to grand strategy, has been based on something like this.
seriously this is one of the worst arguments thrown around on the topic.
These threads are literally all made by false-flagging Holla Forumsyps trying to demoralize leftists. Is it any surprise that OP turned out to be a pro-cappie Trump supporter?
And yet, everybody from the centre to the left, even including majority of die Linke, defends this idea to death.
Have you ever worked a mentally demanding job?
Has porky?
the workers OWN the means o production
how? well because of unions
all gas, electric, and oil services are handled solely by the state ie by workers
that at leats 97% of the entire country revenue
get rekt
pmsl
Here ๐
This is your gold medal on mental gymnastics
And ๐ is your selver medal on loaded arguments
Stop being so inbreed
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they can never hide it for long
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Because syndicates have been corrupted, as I pointed out in more than half of the states in the US they are against the law
Considering porky made syndicates against the law, yes
We were, otheriwse porky wouldnt hqve pushed reforms to weaken syndicates
Damn, you are literally fucking stupid, read a book
How are we supposed to argue with strawmen? Strawmen don't talk
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That's it. If you're still wondering how this could impact the economy negatively: There's a reason why they call it a "brain drain".
tbh i would rather vote for Jeb than any of those two.
this is the worst election of the US history, and i'm not being overly dramatic
son
Lol at thinking Trump can win
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Huh, wasn't this at 95.9% last week for Hillary?
No. The highest she polled was on August 14th, which she polled at 89.2%
But I suppose you would have to actually check the polls to know that.
Or better yet:
Polls always get tighter the closer you get to the election because the undecided either don't vote or they finally pick a side.
Sorry, we don't accept converts. Judaism antedates the separation of religion and tribe, you're either born of a Jewess or you're a gentile. Evangelical religions were a mistake.
-t. secular Jew
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pure denial, a lot of liberal delusions
its gonna be fuckin close son, the vote will be heavily contested by both sides, the voting infrastructure is fucking broken, US has the most opaque voting mechanism in the developed world, theres a whole grab-bag of ways to cheat
everybodies on edge, everyones screaming treason, hillary has one wrist in a bracelet, it looks like the fucking Feebs are going through some kind of coup
yet here you are saying its all in the bag, you fucking mook. sometimes I wish I could be as oblivious as cyka like u
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Except no one ever said this.
Business owners leaving a country sounds like the exact opposite of a brain drain.
The problem was that Chavez never actually implemented socialist policies so private business still had Venezuela by the balls, but were kept at bay because they didn't want Venezuela to cut off the oil supply. Then the oil crash happened and, wellโฆ
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Lurk /fringe/
yeah they own 97% of the country and yet you guys are still whining
yeah it is
prove otherwise
fucking yankees
But of late, since Bismarck went in for State-ownership of industrial establishments, a kind of spurious Socialism has arisen, degenerating, now and again, into something of flunkyism, that without more ado declares all State-ownership, even of the Bismarkian sort, to be socialistic. Certainly, if the taking over by the State of the tobacco industry is socialistic, then Napoleon and Metternich must be numbered among the founders of Socialism.
If the Belgian State, for quite ordinary political and financial reasons, itself constructed its chief railway lines; if Bismarck, not under any economic compulsion, took over for the State the chief Prussian lines, simply to be the better able to have them in hand in case of war, to bring up the railway employees as voting cattle for the Government, and especially to create for himself a new source of income independent of parliamentary votes โ this was, in no sense, a socialistic measure, directly or indirectly, consciously or unconsciously. Otherwise, the Royal Maritime Company, the Royal porcelain manufacture, and even the regimental tailor of the army would also be socialistic institutions, or even, as was seriously proposed by a sly dog in Frederick William III's reign, the taking over by the State of the brothels.
t. Engels
Stop posting anytime
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So where did the bourgeois state owning the means of production suddenly translate into the workers owning the means of production.
How thick are you?
"no"
double "no"
Im going to lol so hard if trump wins at the people who link to nate silvers TEUMP HAS A 00000.1. PERCENT TO WIN AND CLINTON HAS 9103909240803458405054 PERCENT CHANCE TO WIN
No, you'll be on here crying because muh diety-king lost and Hillary must have rigged the election
This, along with liberal asshurt, is probably the only reason to vote for le orange man
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The Holla Forums assdamage will be so much sweeter, though I'll settle for liberal tears as well.
Aren't these from like a week ago
Now would be the time to throw the gays under the bus
this smells like false-flag
Trump winning would be the best thing for the radical left. More lefties would wake up realize that idpol is crippling the left.
With Trump in the White House the whole left wing would come together to fight him. With Hillary there'd be at least four years of "you're just talking about those dead yemenis because you're afraid of powerful women!"
They're actually trying to get Trump in via voter suppression. They've taken 1000's of darkies off voter rolls theguardian.com
Right, because poor people are known for having enough money for good education.
The middle class started leaving right after the business owners.
give up then you fucking pussy. No one said it would be an easy fight.
it's because we don't think they're born ass-backwards reactionary shit cunts, and frankly I'm confident most of them are fine people. I'm perfectly happy sending the non compliant ones to the wall though.
There's no such thing as the "middle class".
If what you mean is specialized workers, then, yes, that's a problem, but you didn't say that. You said business owners were leaving. A parasite leaving is no big problem.
back to Holla Forums you shit eating retard
Oh, you!
Yeah, who needs food companies anyway?
Think about how the world that you are in works, not how the one that you wish to be in should work.
did that nahtzi slip a in a #spiritcooking puddle?
I know, all they do is rob cooks and farmers.
I was making a snide remark about how business owners themselves aren't all that intelligent.