Trump proposes ban on receiving welfare on all immigrants in the nation who have been here less than 5 years

Trump proposes ban on receiving welfare on all immigrants in the nation who have been here less than 5 years.

Good first step but they need to pass a law making it illegal for illegals to EVER receive benefits…

pilotonline.com/news/government/politics/trump-calls-for-stricter-limits-on-welfare-for-immigrants/article_a61478ca-ab85-573e-99b3-3cb6b3e2725e.html

needs a bump

oh baby

Checked.

Does this apply to Europeans overstaying their visas as well and all legal immigrants too?

Europeans overstaying their visas can collect welfare?

I dont think those kinds of people are receiving welfare.

It's a copy of what was decided in the UK and applies to legal migrants, however if you go to any of our job centres or social service places you will see nothing but hijabs and prams full of squawling future problems, and you will hear nothing but arabic. I have no reason to think it will be any different in the US. The plan is friction until a fire starts somewhere. Then they will add fuel to that fire and watch from their bunkers.

If a European wanted gibs, they'd stay in Europe, especially in Northern Europe the gibs are out of control.

I do.
It's still normal to dislike mudshits here.
At least if you're outside the cities.
Whites need to vacate the god damn cities and make more towns where America still lives for god's sake.

Note that the article says "Immigrants," not "Illegals."

This applies to ANY immigrant, not just the illegals.

It also applies to illegals.

This is for all legal immigrants, presumably whatever method for checking residency status will have a knock on effect limiting illegals and giving reasons to fire bureaucrats who allow gibs for illegals.

Well that's a incentive for legitimate immigrants to work instead leeching off gubmint neetbux

Someone who knows their civics, get the fuck in here. Does the president have the ability to impose a 5-year welfare ban for immigrants, or dos that require congress?

If it requires congress, no fucking way it's going through. The GOP is full of fucking cuckolds who would vote against it, and all you'd need is IIRC 3 of them in the senate to cuck to kill the bill.

And if it can be done via EO, then that's great… but it will still only last as long as Trump is in office. It's important to get things passed through congress in order to make them more permanent. Which, as a segue, is why it's so fucking important to pay attention to your state/local primary elections and vote for GOP nominees who are nationlists/populists rather than cuckservatives.

Even the ones that flood in legally immediately go on welfare.

better yet, if there's no gibs then they won't even bother and just go somewhere else
prepare your anus canada
these fucks aren't just coming here for "quality of life", they're coming here because they know that we're stupid as fuck and we'll give them free money to do nothing
if you found out right now that there was a country 100x better than yours and was also giving out free money and pretty much encouraging you to come and get the free money, it's something that you would at least stop and consider

Or better yet, just acting as a huge barrier of entry that prevents shitskins from getting in in general.

However, there is a problem with this: look at places like Australia. People think of Oz as being a white nation, and it's still 85%, but at the current rate of immigration, it's going to become majority nonwhite around the same time as we do anyway. And that's despite the fact that they turn away all refugee boats and have a "points system" where they only take immigrants based on merit.

The problem with this? Tons and tons of gooks can still flood in because they're not dumb retards. And then the gooks do their chinese-swarm tactics and take over clay like they did in Singapore and the Philippines. IIRC Canada also has a points system (although it isn't used for the refugee loophole), and it's resulted in the same problem in places like Hongcouver. Taking in migrants based on merit just results in being flooded with chinks. And that's not good either.

So….he's proposing something that Bill Clinton already signed off on when he was President? This has been one of the "rules" for welfare for quite some time now, the issue, as is often the case, is actual enforcement.

Aye, same with overstayed visas and companies bringing in H1B pooinloos when there's already a surplus labor force for them to choose from. There ARE laws against this shit, but they aren't enforced. Hell, a lot of these gov't offices have social workers and other cancer whose entire jobs are to circumvent these laws and figure out how to give as many people gibs as possible.

Bill Clinton was probably harder on immigration than Trump is.
The democrats were pro closed borders at one time. This used to be a normal sentiment for ALL Americans.

It seems immoral to leave this unchecked.

Unless they're white.

> (((social workers)))
I really want to find those social workers and interview a good proportion of them. Find out what drives them and where the money comes from.

not at least 10

Yep. I'm not falling off my chair over it but it really rubs me the wrong way when Trump and others perpetuate and legitimize this meme about Australia or Canada having "good" immigration policies. We bring in a medium size American city worth of legal immigrants to this country every single year and I challenge anyone to take public transit (even outside the major cities) and tell me we have a "good" immigration policy. It makes me wonder just how dire things must be down there.

I had an investigation done on a spic social worker who was recorded trying to thwart a white person. Even went to far as to tell the person if they weren't on pain pills they wouldn't even look at helping them. It was rather fucked.

This was in a pretty rural county office. The systemic abuse is rampant and the system needs a purge of non-whites.

Chin up, 5 years is more than enough time for them to give up and run home or not even attempt it.

Is that why Billyboy signed Natfa into law? Lurk more faggot.

Definitely a ton of kike women. A lot of naive liberal white women too, doing the whole "I'm a childless feminist so I'm going to use these dumb shitskins as a surrogate for my wasted motherly instinct" thing.

I can't comment much more on what exactly goes on with the social workers in those welfare offices and such. I do know about hospitals though. A lot of the time, they're just completely atomized and detached. It's like, your job is to get XYZ people free drugs and shit. Make it happen. And so they'll fill out paperwork for various government programs or whatever the fuck. There's never any questioning "does this person actually need welfare?" Nope, it's just "let me sign him up, because it'd be more of a pain in the ass to stand my ground on this issue than to just give it to them", assuming they even think at all about denying them in the first place.

TRUMP NO, YOU BAD GOY NO

The issue is that chinks are, on paper, "model minorities". High IQ, high income, do well in school, low crime, etc. It's actually quite hard to argue against them from a meritocratic or civic nationalism perspective. You need to view it from a white nationalist (or at the very least western chauvinist) perspective to view the problem. It's much harder to actually articulate the problem with chinks to your typical normalfags.

He can control whatever Congressionally granted authority the federal agencies have to distribute. Since Congress is full of lazy assholes who hate their jobs they've exploded the size of the administrative state, and thus Executive authority, in the last few decades. It's nice to see it bite them in the ass.

The issue with welfare is that, as something given by the US government, due process must be satisfied before taking it away. So this only works (and doesn't become a bureaucratic nightmare) if he tapers and doesn't take away the welfare outright. So, whenever immigrants go to renew their welfare they would just get denied. Generally, you aren't entitled to renewal of anything. And all he has to do is change the procedures of the approving agency. I assume this is what is actually happening.

But it still treads awfully close to 5th Amendment Due Process (AKA: the Equal Protection Clause for the Feds). Immigrants (legal) are not currently grouped somewhere in the rational basis / strict scrutiny curve as far as I know. Aliens are pretty low, they get rational basis if anything. So if it's aliens, it's probably legal. If it's legal immigrants, it probably fails whatever standard the Court would pull out of its ass.

tl;dr: Congress matters a lot less than the Supremes here.

This won't effect the state-level welfare programs. It might have a big impact on something like TANF.

Baby steps OP, baby steps. Trump has decades of kikery to undo, he's gotta peel it like an onion.

Sorry, to clarify: he can probably do it by EO with regards to federal agency run programs. Congress is asleep at the wheel and generally gives agencies carte blanche to make rules and spend the money they are allocated.

If anything Congress would probably need to pass a law to prevent him from doing this. Which the Republicans would never in a billion years get behind, even the dumb ones.

Does this count toward "refugees"? If so than the buttblasting from the kikes is gonna be amazing.

Right, but even if you choose to leave aside the race and cultural concerns, the raw numbers are utterly absurd, and to use leftist parlance, unsustainable. We still have a relatively low population and even within a normalfag framework, there is no argument for transplanting medium size cities to this country while menacing people about lowering consumption and whatever else.

REMOVE GIBS
REDUCE PARASITES
Simple solutions to simple problems.

You do realize that all of those are things you can cheat and swindle your way into "having" right? I fucking live in the central hive and every single number written on paper is a lie.

Hell, I'll go farther, even the low crime is a lie. The Triads are the only party that has a seat in the National People's Congress outside of the Chinese Communist Party. They make all of the drugs (legal and illegal) that are consumed in America outside of Xjalisco/Afghani heroin. Trump is going to list them as horrible human traffickers and that's because they are. You cannot eat just any food in China because there is a decent chance it was made with either cat meat or cardboard. They have to have the death penalty to deter that shit, that's how ubiquitous it is.

Just because they don't shoot people in the street doesn't make them upstanding members of society by default.

I think he was pointing it out as a positive, not as a negative

No need to sperg out, user. There's a reason I used the phrase "on paper".


I agree completely. I'm just saying it's a lot harder to articulate the problem to normalfags. It's a lot easier to talk about rapes and drug cartels with mexicans, or rapes and terrorism with the arabs. These aren't really the reason we don't want them here, but they're the most obvious and notable manifestations to point to. Normalfags have a hard enough time being convinced not to open the border to mexicans/arabs/etc. It's even harder to get them to agree to no chinks.

Baby steps, user. Considering what a free ride they've had, this is good news. Just like the liberal fucks did, we can get a knife in between the cracks and force bigger changes as time goes on.

People that can't afford to live here on their own won't be able to make it here for 5 years. All those people moving here because they need welfare to live here won't be able to any more.

This could definitely be better, but it's going to be a huge deterrent for low quality immigrants who won't contribute to the country.

Shifting gears and moving forward, I really hope he focuses on the H1B problem. There are so many pooinloos and chinks taking white collar jobs and driving down wages. We have kids going to good engineering and compsci schools just to compete with 100 million pajeets.

He was right, I'm getting tired of winning

despite being colonial, these places are in Asia and were always invested with gooks. there was never any "good take-over". Not a valid comparison.

Sorry user, we gotta keep winning.

or this is just meant to placate us
not saying it's correct, but it's the other obvious choice

I wish stats didn't take so long to get a hold of.

In case there are any spics browsing here you have to go back! don't take this too seriously – you can totally shit out an anchor baby and get the baby some hefty welfare benefits!

AMERICUCK, FUCK YEAH!

Hmmm.

Seriously though, any immigrant should be immediately deported upon receiving welfare as they have only immigrated to become an net burden on society.

Call the doctor, this erection is gonna last for more than 4 hours!

The obvious angle with chinks is spying.

You left out the cherry on top.

Hell YES!

Actually make it more difficult for people to receive it and force them to be in job programs to find work as well.
Ralph Klein did this in Alberta, Canada restricting access to welfare (taking it away from single people, forcing everyone else to look for work) and they all fled to other provinces like refugees and Alberta's economy went through the roof.

Welfare should not be a government program. Your taxes shouldn't create generations of lazy people who don't work and leech off your hard earnings. Up until big government created the "paid voter" true welfare was handle by the churches (and was 100% donation based).
The churches actually lifted families out of poverty and provided better than any government body ever has.

….and while we're at it let's abolish corporate welfare as well:
Boeing — $13.18 Billion
Intel — $3.87 Billion (that's right tax payers gave their money to Anita without knowing)
General Motors — $3.58 Billion
Ford — $2.52 Billion
Fiat Chrysler Automobiles — $2.06 Billion
Shell — $2.04 Billion (oil companies getting tax dollars?)
Nike — $2.03 Billion

This. A friend is an Icelandic illegal. He works his ass off as a general contractor and spends much of his money on an immigration attorney so he can become legal.

These fucks are getting it from both ends of the trough. Get govt money to make and import shoes to sell to niggers that use welfare money to buy them.

is this that list of 'welfare' the form of tax deductions and expenses?
sauce pls

(double-o awesome dubs checked)

Better than nothing, I guess.

When are we getting a Trump amnesty?

I know a few illegals, they seem to go through the same phase (hope)

Why does everyones filenames have (h)s and (u)s? Seen this all day.

(h) is to save the filename in hex- that's the stupid long ones with numbers and letters
(u) is to save it in unicode- which is the number only ones you're probably used to
There's no reason for anyone to have more than one of each past their filename, but for some reason like in they have quite a few because Codemonkey is a retard.

Just fuck my code right up.

Yeah but how are we going to be neets if we don't have money for internet and tendies?

(checked)
Lads is it even possible to be tired of winning?

you can't make an OP and /thread your own thread.

are you a "new" european, by chance?

Checked!! those beautiful digits

Winning,it feels good man.

Illegals and refugees need to stop using use our health care paid by the taxpayer

You left out the cherry on top.

PLEASE SAY THIS IS TRUE

Let's see here, Trump bans gibs, immigrants go apeshit, some faggy circuit court knocks it down, then SCOTUS upholds the ban.

Good, if liberals claim spics are just "muh hardworking victims" then this shouldn't be an issue.

What's next for the Trump Train? Is he going to send the fed to Chicago on the 1st when Illinois goes bankrupt? Man I cannot wait.

Tired of winning yet?

Ooh that's good. It would discourage immigration for sure.

Shitcago should give-up control of their city temporarily while adults in Washington fix their fucked up governance.

?

Trump is proposing the border wall be made covered in solar panels, so it can generate a lot of electricity for us, and it'll be liberal-proof.

but that's retarded, even for normalfags

You'd be surprised how stupid they truly are.

gtfo

Oh you think it's stupid too? fuck you faggot

they continually underwhelm me

At least when you hover over a filename it displays the full filename again. When it had that drop-down menu you couldn't see the full filename until you clicked "Save as original filename"'

The solar wall was a troll comment to fuck with lefties. Solar is too inefficient & not worth the cost. It would expensive & stupid to have a solar wall.

This is absolutely absurd.

Couldn't the new Tesla shingles be useful to power lights/lasers for the wall?

Shingles are even less efficient and cost even more and are more dangerous, Tesla brand shingles don't seem much different(its not a new concept, all other companies that tried it deemed it not worth it and too dangerous).

t. PV pro

It's disgusting. The fact that the majority of white people I've talked to about Hispanics becoming the majority are passive or don't care about it either. they are apathetic towards being wiped out. It makes me furious

I've got different types of "Green" boondoggles on my horizon that mean I can't take this shit as trolling anymore.

I've learned context is unrealistically reassuring when it comes to Trump, but I'll look into before I sperg further.


fucking everything it seems like. Whether untermensch or beaten down or schooled, I don't fucking know, but I can't figure out what motivates them besides chatting with peers and being good goyim and muh dick on occasion.

Nobody ever taught them there's a difference between European cathedral builders and Aztec Sun worshippers, user. We're all the same, according to the Jews, so whites shouldn't be troubled by a little shift like more brown faces in your kid's yearbook or drug-fuelled torture/homicides on the playground.

Teaching, or rather, re-teaching whites that we are a race apart is /our/ major task right now. Once the equivalence lie is no longer believed, and especially when whites give themselves permission to see what's in front of their eyes, most of our work is done.

We just have to hurry up. The Quetzalcoatlites are breeding at twice the rate of the maintainers of the human race.

[Pic related #2 is an Aztec sacrifice victim with a stone blade crammed into its nasal cavity. They did that for kicks.]

it's because Europeans and whites everywhere have been brainwashed from birth to hate themselves and not take any pride in anything because 80 years ago MUUUUH SIX MILLION happened and now white people can't have their own nation or pride in anything

I ain't clicking that shit nigga, post some fucking content

found /r/the_donald

Noice.

In this pressing time, it is important that this social pariah meets social standards set by outcast societies and social outliers and imposed on the socially soluble.

I'll never forgive the Spaniards for muhdiking those goddamn chickensnake worshipping jungle hominids and spawning the god-damned beans.
Seriously, one of you swarthy, pallella-eating Barcelona niggers out there reading this needs to explain this shit to me.

now it will just have to fight its way up through the court system
this is what pissed me off about the whole travel ban debacle because the whole reason it was taken to court and challenged in the first place by the executive branch was not whether or not it was constitutional to ban people from certain parts of the world from coming here IT FUCKING IS but whether or not federal judges even had the authority to block executive orders. As for a lower level member of one branch of government to be able to block orders from the highest level of another branch would seem to be a breach of the checks and balances, the secretary of agriculture doesn't have the ability to overturn supreme court rulings any more than some state legislature has the ability to veto wars against foreign countries but for some (((reason))) the republicans in both the media and all levels of government aren't even bringing this point up anymore.
SO
FUCKING
DONE

Agreed, it's fucking bullshit. Imagine what Latin America would be like if they cleared out all the mongoloids just like we did in America. Would've been fucking beautiful

Although I have to say, the worst offender is portugal's actions in brazil. As if indians aren't bad enough, let's ALSO flood the nation with many many times more niggers than ever went to the USA. And then race-mix with them and create a hodgepodge of mestizos and mulattoes.

But to answer your question as to why this happened? It's because the Spaniards had a different mindset. They came to conquer, whereas the English came to settle. That's a huge difference; one involves taking women and children with you and planning on building permanent settlements right from the get go, etc. The conquistadores, on the other hand, were just looking for power, glory, wealth, etc. They weren't planning on settling down and coming to the new world to raise a family. They had crews of mostly men coming for conquest, and they ended up banging a bunch of indian slant on the side. They weren't thinking of the consequences this would have down the line, unfortunately.

It's a very good fable for the dangers of race-mixing. Even in a multiracial society, it's still much better to not-racemix, because then it just ends up blurring the lines until no one knows who's REALLY white and who is actually a castizo, etc.

Their plot of judicial obstructionism failed, if they continue to pull that bullshit, they're going to force the president to start taking action against the judicial system.

The courts are broken, they have the most power and have fewer checks and balances than any other branch of power in the US. But Trump can propose legislation (maybe EO, but that seems too ballsy) that break up the lower courts and restructure ERRYTHING under the Supreme Court, it's never been done before. But it is within his power.

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