Post your political evolution

Holy fuck reactionaries are disgusting

Pre-Teen

Teenager

Adult

Presently

Am I the only motherfucker on this board that existed when the Soviet Union was still a thing?

Anyway:

Fuck everything before 18 it doesn't matter.

18: I voted for Dubya
22: Ron Paul
26: Ron Paul
28-29: Holla Forums drives me left and I start to become aware of the contradictions of capitalism itself. Mostly how the profit motive is actually stifling technological progress in all things.
30: Now I am here, I have to read things. I can't say what kind of ideology I most closely align with right now. I guess if anything I still believe in a state but no markets, no capitalism.

Fuck off cappie

Child: want to differentiate my views from my mother's so therefore conservative.
Young adult: socdem.
College: Keynesian
Post college job: discover what alienation really is. Read Capital, Mutual Aid, and lots of the Frankfurt School.
Dropped out of job and society: generally leftist but becoming HEAVILY influenced by Nietzsche.

I'm a traveler now and Nietzsche really speaks to my tendencies as a wanderer but I read him through a broadly anti-capitalist lense with an eye towards dialectics.

Democrat to Republican. Was Fascist until my 20's, now ML

I recall when I was 10 taking an interest in the Iraq War. I don't remember much beyond thinking it was probably a good idea to assist our ally (the U.S). I had no knowledge of real conflict or whatever otherwise.
I think I was an autistic center right type on some issues (hurr why don't minorities just do what we do, they have the same opportunities)
13 I think I was a vague liberal because rebellion
18-21 I was a full blown academic liberal - but ironically, an anti-feminist
22-now - I am what I yam

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Age ???-10: My Dad was in the army, so I was instilled with nationalistic liberalism as an ideology as a child. Quality of living for me is lower middle class at this point.

Age 10-14:My Dad leaves the army, my family takes a hit in quality of living as a result. My parents divorce each other shortly afterwards, sending both my mom and my dad spiraling into poverty. This is where disillusionment with my starting ideology begins, and it really picks up steam when I learn all about the foreign interventions of the US military.

Age 14-16: Low information leftist. In fall of 2006 I pick up a copy of Marx's selected works at my local library on a whim. Naturally, the first text I read is The Communist Manifesto. My mind was absolutely ripe for it's message at that time, and it electrifies me like no political text ever did before. However, I didn't know a damn thing about socialism at the time. I was an edgy kid that wanted a revolution that would put up a welfare state afterwards (cause that's socialism, rite?), and with a boner for the Soviet Union (Not Stalin tho). I'm too spooped by cold war propaganda to call myself a communist tho.

Age 16-18: "Trotskyist". Here's a question 16 year old me. Do you like the Soviet Union? Yes. Do you hate Stalin? Yes. Check out this Trotsky guy 16 year old me. I apparently didn't think that actually understanding his theory was necessary tho.

Age 18-23: Syndicalist. I finally read some mother fucking theory, and I settle on syndicalism as my ideology of choice. Join the IWW too.

Age 23-Today (25): I finally get over my hangups with communism. I also grow frustrated with how the IWW is organized. Today I'm a marxist communist, with syndicalist sympathies. I'm currently working on reading even more theory,and on giving myself a grounding in philosophy.

Child - Using ideas to explore the world and trying to get to the back of things.

Youth - Obsessed with ideals like the fatherland, religion etc.

Adult - Serving myself and looking for the satisfaction of the whole chap.

Old Man - I will tell you when I get there.

wtf i hate succdems now

Hitler did nothing wrong, Feder is a saint, and the spirit of Fascism will live on forever.

I am surprised how many have a clear idea of their ideology at 10-14 years. Back then I wasn't interested in these things at all. I was just being a child, without thinking about politics in the slightest. Politics were something which just happens. You had respect the people around you. Which somewhat defaults to being a liberal. Social studies taught us about the parties, and if they were religious, social democrats or free market oriented liberals. Ideology was never mentioned, it never came up in the news or at school. Not sure if America is different from Denmark in that regard.

15-16: Realised that politics in Denmark are static. They never change, even if every party had different plans, their execution remained the same. Noticed that Denmark wasn't the only country where this was the case. Started browsing 4/pol/ (before it became stormfront 2.0) and found out about corruption and was introduced to ideology, including the wrong definition of socialism and communism.

17-18: Still lolberg tier, however started to realise that even lolbergs wouldn't be able to fix the problems of corruption and went full right-wing reactionary. Primarily due to interest in history, and the lies spread about Hitler. Was never truly hooked on killing minorities, and hated to narrow view of many anons. Became interested in Nietzsche.

19: Realised that capitalism was the problem, started openly talking about how if we can get rid of capitalism, we could free ourselves from the burdens of the current system and make a better world. I started digging deeper in the history about WWII, and found out what really happened during the persecution of the Jews. Which showed me how spooked the germans were back then, and how power hungry the allies were as well. Which was different from both what Holla Forums believes and what you read in western history books. The increased stormfront activity on Holla Forums pushed me away and I decided to check out leftypol and was pleasantly surprised. It was the first time in almost half a year that I enjoyed posting and reading posts. Started slowly but surely learning about leftism, and feel somewhat stupid about my unknowledgeable past few years. I also noticed how leftism fitted perfectly with my personal views.

20: Looking forward to learning more about leftism. Don't really care about secterianism, but if I had to choose, I would probably consider myself an anarcho-communist.

well that explains a lot.

Not sure if you are baiting or from Holla Forums. Almost everyone here is 18 or above, evident that everyone in this thread mentioned that they were adults. While unsurprisingly trumpenprolen and stormcucks are usually edgy teenagers.

12-now (19) the immortal dialectic science of marxism-leninism

Why is that in Chinese? I thought these were japanese cartoons.

Age 14-15: Liberal
Age 16-17: Libertarian
Age 17-18: Marxism and anarchism
Current: Post-Keynesian distributist market post-leftist anarcho-nihilist Wildean fabianarchist Vaticanguardism w/ Depressive characteristics

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Touhou is also popular in China. The creator of these fanmade drawings is a Chinese pixiv user.

Most are 18/19. Kids. That's what I said.

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And in the interests of fairness

13-18, anti-war liberal
18-25, negative-liberties focused soft-libertarian
25-now, racialist, anti-semtiic, anti-muzzie, anti-neo-liberal soft-anti-capitalist, nationalist misanthrope.

Age 13-14 - Conservative
Age 15-17 - Marxist Leninist
Age 17~20 plain ol' socialism

Childhood: no political association

age 16 - Joining the left alliance`s(Finland) youth organization

age 18 - joining the Left alliance as party member

age 19-20 - Obscure phase of neo-reactionary thought + monarchism, but I don`t leave the party but just turn into passive member with nihilistic view towards politics as a whole

age 21 - still member of the party but I abandon my reactionary ideology and return to the fold of majority of my party, running for city council elections in 2017

8 yo

13 -16 yo
17-18 years old
queue leftypol

Watched a documentary with my dad for the first time, it was also the first time I saw images of war. I believe it was about the Gulf War. I remember asking him a lot of questions, and getting answers like "our boys are doing the right thing" and "don't worry, you don't live in one of the bad countries"

Mandatory pledge of allegiance every morning. Forced to almost worship the Founding Fathers of America. Federalist Papers, founding documents and the works of Thomas Jefferson were required reading, and I even had the Declaration, the Constitution, a picture of an eagle and a picture of the Statue of Liberty as my only posters.

My parents pitched a royal fit when I decided to read some other classic literature, such as The Origin of Species, The Prince, The Republic, Leviathan, the works of Descartes, Locke, Hume, Smith, Kant, Nietszche and Freud…all works they themselves had not read, but had heard bad things about. They feared I would be "corrupted" by all this "worldly knowledge", but I convinced them it was to give me a well rounded education, and that many on the list had influenced the Founding Fathers.

And yes, I really did read them. Unabridged. I didn't get to play video games or have friends like other kids, and the only music genre that was elective for me was Classical, so despite my age I was growing up as the Noble Savage - incredibly well cultured, incredibly bad at social interaction.

My parents joined the Tea Party, and coercively so did I. By this time I was beginning to see cracks and flaws in ultraconservatism, but I still listened to conservative talk radio and, of course, Fox News. We ended up getting purchased by the Republicans and turned into yet another republican asset.

I come to terms with my sexuality - something not easy to do in an enclosed and negative environment. I decide conservatism is not for me, as I would not be welcome among them. I remained in the closet, both sexually and politically. Plus, it was becoming more and more evident that I had been brainwashed as a child, and I had no desire to be any more

I gain internet access, and my research takes me further than I could have imagined. Much to my parents dismay and outrage, I became an open liberal. While I did not come out sexually, I came out politically due to my exasperation with my repression.

I see the same cracks in Liberalism as I did in Conservatism. Two sides, same coin, a coin in the pocket of the rich. I go from ideology to ideology, but in the end it is always the same.

Disenfranchised with finding no political group that was not just a way for the rich to manipulate the poor, I see the world nihilistically, and so delve into what I was sure would be the worst system: Communism.

And here, I found it. No rich, no kings, nobody controlling others for their own personal interest (Stalin and Best Korea not included), just a collective of people who don't want to be manipulated into profiting others any more.

IT WAS REAL IN MY MIND!

You lot are fucking young.

Dude, you get worse.

You are a fucking commie hippie now.

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As a 26 year old, you niggers are fucking young.

The stereotypes that leftists are children is true in this thread.

How do you mean?

I'm 26 too, you don't get a fucking prize.

You lost your drive, your ideology, now you are just another hobo.

And we are older than most of this board.

It's fucking nonsense.

Every time there is a thread here where ages arementioned the average age tends to be in mid 20s, with some mouthbreather rushing in and trying to claim everyone is underage.

Bonus points if more details are mentioned, in which case they're translesbian wheelchair users who love pissplay and wearing fursuits.

Probably more to do with growing out of responding to blogthreads, older chan users tend to keep quiet about their age. I'm sure pol are worse for being kiddos.

Hardly. I just became disgusted with American Exceptionalism. Human Exceptionalism still burns deep within me.

The last two are actually true, holy shit. Not that I have a fursuit, I don't.

I find it ridiculous that some 18-19, literally just finish college/school, musing about how "political evolution".

Bitch you know nothing yet, get some life experiences in your hands, get a job.

just sayin…

No part of this would surprise me.

Soon, ya are gonna be one of those cool kid nihilists.

It's all the same, 1st world problems.

Hardly. I lived in the same rv as in the show Breaking Bad, subsisted off of food stamps and minimum wage and got all my books from the public library. I was no rich kid. By American standards, I was below the poverty line.

I cannot believe you are an actual welfare friend.

No, what you have is called 1st world problem, you live in the 1st world and on welfare, and now get a fucking job, start to save money, rent an apartment and clean yourself up.

t. Holla Forums

What part of past tense do you not get?

OK, I just hope that it's all in the past and you can live by yourself without debt and welfare now, user.

NAZBOLACK NO STEP ON SNEK ANARCHOID BIDEOLOGICAL TRASHMAN PUTIN FANBOY

1989 worst year ever
1956 worst year ever
Rosa is my waifu, 1919 worst year ever
1968 worst year ever , ne travaillez jamais
2008 best year ever [complete disappointment in student politics, shouting matches with tankies and fights with fascists trying to break squats/occupations start here]
2008 worst year ever, fuckign borgy
Start working, travailler worst verb of my life.
I will make Stalin look like a fucking anarchist

16-18 keynesian liberal, aspiring indie film company owner
19-22 socdem with hardon for muh small business, start disliking college because business classes literally teach you how to be a corporate stooge and nothing else. Start doing more drugs to cope.
22-find socialism. Start reading Marx and Kropotkin and suddenly everything starts making sense. Hated the decisions I made and myself for being fooled.
23-present (24)- Anarchist, Syn, Com, and some Mutualist sympathies. Reading more theory, plowing through a degree I hate because too expensive to start over, planning on trying to set up a production coop that lets filmmakers make films without being porky's bitch. Doing better, but get angry a lot more than I used to.

12 - fell for the Obama meme

13-16 - indoctrinated into liberalism, didn't really care about politics though

17 - irritated by SJWs, reflexively hated idpol and liberal smugness.

18 - realised liberals were just as dumb as the right-wingers they ridiculed. I hate people like that so disowned it entirely. Thought i was right-wing for a while.

19 - started to read political thought for the first time. Realised that capitalism is the problem. Started seeing capitalist ideology everywhere and in everything, not even memeing.

20 - short period of intense depression about the state of the world brought on by a problem with college fees and self-doubt over my career path.

21 - total political apathy, avoid the subject in public whenever possible.

age 14- capitalist republican tier

age 15-17 - social democrat

age 18- analytical marxist

age 19 full tumblr tier communist

age 19 and a half relize how backwards full communism realy is, supporting sit tier sezist, homophobic and intolerant ideologies like islam just because they are a minority

age 20 socdem again

full leftist are thesame hingas full rigthist

1-21
"Social-Democrat", mostly liberal on social issues and sympathetic to communist ideas without reading much about it.

22-23
Dipped my toes into conservatism, read some good thinkers in that tradition.

Currently
Tentatively international socialist, been reading some theory.

I'm freshly 18 so I've got a lot of growing to do but here we go

I think everyone deserves to be equal, nobody should be treated badly because muh Gawd
Get really interested in WWII, start reading about it, read Mein Kampf, become retarded nazi. Still liked the gays, but not blacks or jews
Centrist. The kind that says retarded shit like "anarcho-communism is contradictory" and "all radical beliefs are irrational"
Center-left liberal. idpol out the ass, "mix between Capitalism and Socialism"
"WOO B████ CUM IN MY ASS DADDY, GIVE ME THAT FREE COLLEGE"
Start going on /r/socialism because I want to learn about socialism, find out about LSR. Watch his shit, get redpilled, become anarkiddie, leave because of all the idpol
Start to move toward understanding the need for more authoritarian measures, while still understanding the need for a free society. Luxemburgist I guess
Still not entirely sure. I'm kind of at a mix between luxemburgism and anarcho-syndicalism

Sounds interesting, any developments?

Looking back on past experiences and sharing it with others, can be very helpful. It requires you to think back and evaluate your life up until this day. Especially when you lack life experiences. Aside from a few attention whores, this type of thread is usually created because people want to share experience with each other.

It is true that in the span of the age 15-20 you switch ideology quite often, and more often than not you just going through a phase. Most of your ideas come from literature and are based on idealism. While the same timespan of 21-26 you gain more life experience. Because you get to experience the system you live in first hand. You get to meet adults and get to hear their stories. I do however not feel that such a generalization based on age alone is justified. Some people gain more experience in a few years after they graduate than others gain after being 10 years on the market.

14: Anarkid.
17: Borderline commie, keep it on the dl.
19: Filthy liberal, suck idpol dick.
22-present: Realize all idpolfags I've ever met are garbage, become demsoc and come to appreciate the goth/emo dynamic with socdems.

12-13: Conservative

14-15: Libertarian Conservative

16-17: Libertarian

18-19: AnCap

20-Now: Individualist Anarchist

Lolbertarian: capitalism is great, I'm gonna start up a company one day and get rich off other people's work

Holla Forums-tier Nazi: 14/88 Sieg Heil gas the kikes Nazi masturbation fantasy now Hitler never dindu nuffin wrong he a gud boy he liked dogs and children and art

went back to being a lolbertarian, abandoned Holla Forums's racial bullshit.

SocDem: we must find a balance between capitalism and socialism (lel)

Commie

I’ve always been somewhere between a socdem and a demsoc, with anarchist LARPing sensibilities and M-L memes.

The failure of Obama and Occupy made me disillusioned for a bit, and for a while I entertained right-wing libertarian ideas (but always firmly anti-imperialist).

I was in Palestine during the last war in Gaza and that pushed back to the left.

I’m now a non-dogmatic, Jacobin-tier lefty reformist.

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XDD Hitler and the nazis are cool and edgy :DDDD
he din du nuffin wrong Jews deserved it :))

Iraq invasion has no justification besides stealing oil from the Middle East. Started to get interested in lgbt rights

I got interested in the political parties of my country. Realized how the social democrats used the state to get rich and favored class inequality, they were no different from the neoliberals.
Started reading pamphlets of the Marxists parties.

Joined a so called Marxist new left party made by a coalition of trots, maoists and left socdems.
Started reading theory™
Full on SJW.
Actually believed that the party was the right organization to bring forward a revolution
Started preferring Weber sociology over Marx.

Stopped believing in the party
All the Marxist talk was meaningless, at the end they are just professional socdem politicians who use radical rhetoric to differentiate themselves from the classic socdems
Joined an anarchist group
Holla Forums made me hate sjw's

Realize how every anarchist is a lifestylist with no idea of how the world works or how to create a revolutionary organization. They just spout cheap philosophy, itś so cringy.

feels lonely, at least when i was in a party i had things to do, even though they were meaningless

Age 16 and previously - vague discontent with the state of things. Ayy anonymoose lmao. Genrally left-leaning. Some belief in socialism but no understanding of what that truly means. More of a SocDem. What I'd now describe as "edgy liberalism".
Between 16 and 18: Generally grew to hate capitalism and the way society is organised by the profit motive.
Age 18 (about a year ago) : Found Holla Forums, became radicalised and started to refine my views more deeply.

Currently 19: Individualist-leaning Communist. Whatever that means. I guess libertarian-socialist works too but I'm not exactly a leftcom.

sadly you leftists will always be brainwashed

fuck off cappie

keep crying

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nice bait
go fuck your child slave XDD

im simply pointing out the truth. keep deluding yourself with worthless utopian fantasies

but we ended your capitalist child labor™ XDDD

how can i be projecting if I'm the one against such a feudal system that allows child slaves?

the truth is right-wing libertarianism is a farce

Pre-Teen

13-14

15-17

18

Late 18-20

Add worker's control to the George Orwell-tier democratic socialism

??-12:
Apolitical, parents made sure I'd gotten no information other than church, Disney channel, and Christian music.

13-14:
Fedora redditard atheist. Still no politics other than anti-theism.

15-16:
Didn't focus on politics much during the first part, was focusing on school and programming and getting high. Was casually browsing Holla Forums. Then the refugee situation happened somewhere around that time and that's when I went full alt-right.

Analyzing myself, though, I can't tell how far along I was. I was for nationalism and closed borders and all that, but I never got the hate for minorities. Even then, I had nothing but compassion for everyone, and tried to judge people on an individual level– as they should be.

I think my alt-rightism was just a kneejerk reaction to the tumblr shit I saw too often.

It was funny, too, because I'm a huge sexual deviant. A lot of Holla Forums is, though. Very weird community.

16-17:
I did acid for the first couple times and started browsing Holla Forums super shortly after. Not saying correlation implies causation, but y'know.

17-now:
Probably syndicalist. Not really sure, because there are good arguments made for a few ideologies, and I haven't read much theory, but definitely anti-capitalist.

UBI sounds nice. :^🍀🍀🍀

Child
I decided to move to an all white elite high school after that, I had to do a lot of tests before I got accepted to it though

teenager

At this point economics is a side issue, main issue remains arabs and muslims. I'll vote for anyone that is against them, limits their migration or vows to remove mosques and stop funding of mosque building in my country. I'll look into economical issues, medical plans etc of a party if multiple are against the arabs/ muzzies. But only one in my country is so that one gets my vote every election.

I hate Arabs so much I wonder why people even call those pieces of shit humans, they really are not much different from an impulsive animal. I wish I never had to deal with their retarded bullshit again in public transportation or when I'm walking at a train station.

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lololololololololol

You're too tense.

Young - Vaguely Social Democrat.
Teenage - Technocratic Stratocracy
Late Teenage - Democratic Socialist
Adulthood - Pan-Arab Socialist Ba'athism [Salah Jadid].

Fuck it. I'll play.

4) "Jimmy Carter seems nice. Why do people not like him?"

10) "The president asks an astrologer before making decisions? Doesn't he know those are fake?"

16) "Ha-ha! That senator from Oregon tried to rape some chick. Why are republicans perverts?"

22) "What the fuck Bill? You are the fucking president! You don't have to bang ugly bitches. Kennedy was fucking Marilyn!"

28) "So there were no WMDs in Iraq. Did they know that all the info on those CLASSIFIED briefings they gave us were bullshit? Did they seriously lie to us, the actual soldiers, on classified documents?"

34) "All these elections are exactly the same. None of it matters. It's all bullshit, and money rules the world."

40) "Wow, The Communist Manifesto sure reads differently when you are not a kid in the Cold War."

6-10: No interest in politics really. Would occasionally pretend to be a conservative because all my friends families were even though mine was liberal. Staunch Atheist

11-15 Typical liberal. One time a conservative art teacher at my school told me that the left wing was communism and the right wing was anarchy. When I asked him what the problem with communism was, he said "THAT WAS LIKE HITLER" I later asked my mom about it and she told me communism is good and the right did not lean towards anarchy but fascism. Started to appreciate communism but would defend muslims and feminists. Learned that my great grandfather was a member of the American socialist party and got questioned because of it. Mom told me how great a person Mao was. Also was a staunch atheist

16- 18: Stereotypical annoying liberal but I started hating idpol. (mainly feminism) Still a Staunch Atheist.

19 - 23 Started learning more and more about communism. Also learned a lot about normalfag ideology from 4chan's /r9k/ Put my views together to become an atheist authoritarian leninist

Oh wow a 40+ year old

Tell me what it was like living during the cold war

Maybe.

Outside influences also do not help, I'm from a Jewish family.

How much is the ZIDF paying you to post on a Thai dogging forum?

Child: This Fox News sure is fun!

Teenager: Holy jesus fuck the market is crashing why god I'm a communist now

Actually nvm maybe this Obama guy can help out

Guess I'm remaining a commie

College: Maybe I'll become an Anarchist

Today: Nah I'm good I'll remain a commie

Go fuck your child slave, retard

Age 15 - communist
Age 31 - still haven't read anything that makes me think it's a bad idea.

My childhood nightmares were like Sarah Connor's. Eventually, some lunatic was going to push that button, and everything I knew and loved would die. But hey, until then I can get into any college I want, graduate, and work whatever job I please. Also, MTV played actual music, which was nice.

Childhood: Some edgy form of anarchism without adjectives
11-13: strong liberal
14: liberal that hates idpol
15: listen to some chomsky, become disillusioned with capitalism
16-18: begin reading theory, introduce some friends to it too
20-present: anarcho socialist

not suprising

nobody says this except ancaps

the projection is off the charts here

Uh huh

I do and I'm not a ancap

then how come you use ancap lingo? that's like being a leftist but calling the frankfurt school cultural marxism

isn't it just anither way of saying social anarchist?

Child

Young teen

Late teen

Young adult

age 10: Want a classless society, with no bed times.

age 12: Realize: People are not equal. The smart/strong/healthy should be the ones to have children. People should be able to distribute the wealth they (fairly) built up–however they want.

age 27: I biologically/instinctual value my children 1 million times more than some stranger of a different race on the street. I give all my energy/resources to my children (and hope every does the same with their own). I hope each generation becomes smarter, stronger, healthier.

Beauty is truth, truth beauty,—that is all
Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.

I know its halloween but you dont have to be this spooky

;)

the really spooky thing is–not having "spooks" (ie values/identity)

Without values/id a poisonous ball of snakes is just another set of working class comrades.

Undesireables have proven to be the best working classmcomrades

Age 8: fug politicks they r all evil politicians
Age 10: centre left because centre left party in my country promised high speed broadband. Didn't really understand what leftism meant, apart from high taxes and govt. does stuff
Age 12: read Communist Manifesto for a laugh. Ended up agreeing with a lot of it. Read up on Russian Revolution. Became commie in name, but didn't really understand it. Also became tumblr-tier idpolitician; ie gay rights, feminism, etc etc At the same time I also didn't like democracy because my class was full of dumb shits, so I figured I'd never want to give any of them the right to vote
Age 14: Read Orwell, along with other anti-authoritarian ideas. Became socdem/mixed economy, but still supported socialism above capitalism overall. Loved Cuba, Egypt (Nasserite), USSR under Lenin. Less idpol as I gradually became disillusioned with feminism in the Third World, and tumblr's obsession with small shit like "manspreading" when so much worse was happening globally and domestically. Also I refused to wave rainbow flags around; not ideological opposition, I just didn't like the colour scheme
Age 16-17: Started browsing Holla Forums, reading more left-wing literature. Learned about separation of leftism and idpol. Became more and more disillusioned with the state of the modern left. Headed further and further into radical leftism, started seeing porky control over society. I was an anarkiddie for a week after reading The Dispossessed by Ursula Le Guin.
18-19: Now I maintain a public face of centre-left socdem to avoid scaring off potential leftists, and hide my true power level. Still reading literature and revising my established view of history (eg Robespierre is evil), reading more economic theory. idk which ideology I support, if any, I just know it's going to be far left and involve the systematic dismantling of capitalism

I mean first world feminism not giving a shit about exploited women workers in the Third World

Black hoods–engineering the next gen supercomputers?

12 - neo-con child
13-16 Holla Forums tier fascism
17-18 Marxist-leninist
19-20 NAZBOL

so not much change at all then?

6-14/ Pan-Arabian nationalism

14-20/ Egalitarian Islamo_fascism

20-now/ Radical leftist

Topic is political evolution, not political stagnation.

Fuck you comrade your a muke

this is basically a combination of everything bad about the previous three ideologies

pic related

Because capitalism will always decay.

CRAWLING IN MY CRAWL

9-11-

12-15-

15-

16-17-

18-

I dunno what I am now but I guess I'm somewhere between marxism and anarchism. I still fuckin hate tankies but a lot of the anarchists I meet kind of annoy me.

kek. what did Holla Forums think was gonna happen this september?

top kek

5-10ish:

11-13:

13-16:

17-19:

20:

21:

21-27:

it's been a weird ride

It was last september and it was like the Semitah or something like that. Jews were going to crash the world economy on Rosh Hashanah or Yom Kippur I can't remember which.

ANYTHING. SOMETHING. PLEASE.

How so?

family business, definitely in the "1%" of my country

You still work there or own shares etc?

age 12- democrats are good reublicans and neocons are stupid
age 13-16- why bother, vote ron paul
age 17-18- these globalists are complete imbeciles, it would be awesome if only they knew what the fuck they were doing
age 19-20- seriously, its getting worse
age 20-23- its fucking worse
now- they need a global autocracy that runs on the metadata of the chips implanted in everyones heads so no one has to bother telling them what theyre doing is fucking retarded, also neocons still should be dragged into the street and shot

ye, but not working there atm

wot

Cool mom you got there.

???
Communism implies socialism.

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Age 12: Typical liberal
Age 13-15: Socdem Bernout
Age 16-17: Fascist (found /pol)
Age 17: Communist (various sects)
Age 18: Typical socialist - need to read more before I decide what ideology I am.

Consciousness-16: Self-avowed Democrat because Bush is mean and Obama is infallible
17-19: Social democrat
19: B████ ██████ "socialist"
20: Self-proclaimed Marxist demsoc
21: Vague Luxemburgist

age 12: vaguely anticapitalist
age 13: a guy working at chapters tried to get me to read Atlas Shrugged and I walked off in instinctive disgust while still not knowing what it is
age 14: edgy child with socdem characteristics (regimented education is bad, the government should build people homes)
age 16: started doing acid and became an ironic tankie
age 17: had a one day fling with lolbertarianism after a girl told me about it, before realizing it's retarded after an older friend laughed at me and called it anarchism for pussies. thank you ben
age 18: still no theory, vaguely anarchist sentiments, hate corporations and capitalist society but don't understand why
age 19: voting with socdems, ethical consumerism, stridently bitching about poor third worlders and sweat shops and why people are supporting it by buying shit
age 20: getting into syndicalism
age 21-24: syndicalist
age 25+: 1000 YEARS OF DEMOCRATIC BROCIALISM

entire evolution
age 6- parents talking about voting governor "would vote for Jesse ventura if only he wasnt going to let everyone carry guns" confused that thats their critique when hes a wrestler not a politician
later turnout was the greatest governor ever, murder rate actually dropped
age 7- still watever parents said, muh al gore, muh dems, muh welfares, findout popular vote only counts for everyone but president
parents split up
age 8- 9/11, annoying new age liberal teacher that blasted fucking anna every morning asking what we think will happen, nogs and spics barking war like retards right after it happened, me, asians and whites confused as to who exactly they are trying to bomb (also pacifist basically at this point)
age 10- confused as why were in 2 fucking countries after a non state actor attack, and how the country is made up of war barking mall going morons
age 11- parents voting kerry cause they hate bush, but they dont like kerry, ask why the hell are the voting kerry then? "dont wanna waste muh vote" wonder why they care when it literally doesnt matter
age 12- vehement lefty despite not understanding anything, think anyone taking anything at facevalue is stupid despite doing the same
age13- discover 4chan
age 15- mom hates hillcunt votes primary for obama, dad skeptical of obama votes shillary
only participating as spectator, like ron paul varied on other local candidates
notice niggers at school turn into impotent nig screeching whenever someone says anyone else than obama or even criticizes lack of experience (which is dumb, because no one has experience as president until youre actually president) mention local sheriff candidate to self righteous nigger who thinks everyone whos in the 9th grade up should be able to vote, he doesnt know either, tell him the candidates names and parties, immediately says the democrat, ask him why, "republicans are noting but old white racists who hate poor people" inform him the incumbent republican sheriff is a black guy, "hes some yellow uncletom probably" realize niggers are retarded
16- 23- not surprised when nothing obama said he was gonna do gets done, country in cognitive dissonance mode obama is totally for poor people despite campaign financed by banks and corporations, tea partiers then immediately afterwards occupy wall street, pretty much the biggest signal of " we dont like what the fuck youre doing King Nigger" media acting as if nothing happening, wonder if im in some shitty dystopian novel, only person to prosecuted due to 08 crisis was a Jew running a ponzi scheme named Madoff "Oh, its a Thomas Pynchon novel" left starts getting pants on head retarded with their identity politics, 4chan finally jumping the shark with outright praise of hitler on /news/ and Holla Forums, only vote for local elections and vote gary during 2012, gamergate happens, could give 2 shits about people bitching about video game "journalism" but the migration happened and bounced between forums, stayed on cuckchan for /g/ /lit/ and /lgbt/ watch europe slowly burn, from greece to ukraine to shitskin crisis
now- they need a global autocracy that runs on the metadata of the chips implanted in everyones heads so no one has to bother telling them what theyre doing is fucking retarded, allowing all these shitskins to breed and leech off of public assistance is dysgenic and detrimental for humanity

Are you one of those people who think that liberals = leftists?

In any case, you sound incredibly retarded.

no
and I really dont care that a communist thinks that globalism isnt reality

Globalism is a thing, but it's probably not what you think it is.

Anyway, that's not why I think you're retarded.

Globalization is a real thing that leftists have been criticizing for decades, Globalism is a tinfoil incoherent concept used to convey anti-globalization aspects into a meme

My mom isn't a communist but my grandma gave her truth bombs about all the good Mao did. My mom is 67 now and she's starting to spout all the baby boomer crap about "working hard" and how you only get to snap at your boss once a year for a very good reason and how you should volunteer to do crappy tasks at work.

I guess something in the brain makes baby boomers move more to the right as they get older even if they were pretty good communist sympathizers at one time.

yeah its ran by the companies opening up across the world and influencing the governments they operate with said companies and governents run on overleveraged heaps of printed money

Did your mom freak?

liberal
soft socialist
trot
idk, I still support socialism but I don't have the time nor will to be actively involved in the struggle, and I don't see any point either unless I see something that is actually important. I actively supported the occupy wall street and B████ campaigns, for example

10- Idiotic tradcon drone, hated obamer, gays, etc
13 -Realized I was a gay so that was out, Obama isn't that bad, starting to degen into a total fedora
14-15 edgy antifem stage
16-17- 360° turn, total SJW but also a lelbertarian, muh free market
Now- leftist libertarian, class war now

10 -12: whatever my parents were i was

13-15: neo nazi

16-18: ancap

19-22/now: marxist-leninist

Then you can use your family's power and wealth to do good stuff, right?

This.

the rest is fine tho

Age ?-12 Obama loving liberal. Don't really think much about anything apart from I think gays should have rights and capitalism is okay as long as there's welfare.
Age 12-15 Fedora libertarian. Become a keyboard warrior atheist, see some Austrian economics, decide it looks legit and "scientific" so I believe that.
Age 15-17 Holla Forums. Decide I want to know more about politics so I visit Holla Forums (lol).
Age 17-19, Lenin pro. Read lots of books and see the obvious answer.

fundie christian republican rebulican reactionary. Mostly because my parents were republican (but not fundie christian)
Because a centre-left liberal
A keynesian Social Democrat
A (non-authoritarian) socialist

I don't remember exactly when I got interested in politics but I've been an anarchist ever since.

11-16 - your ordinary idpol and slightly SJW liberal
16-19 - your ordinary idpol liberal, less SJW though, starting to notice the absurds of feminism and muh "equality"
19-21 - your ordinary so-called "social democrat" sans SJW/idpol, because radical leftism is 2edgy4you (ex-commie country here, radical leftism still has all the stigma you can imagine, even regular SDs are called commies here)

Since then gradually radicalising, now I'm 23 and I think my politically rebellious period is starting right now. Feels really good, man

I was an Obama Democrat in high school. Very establishmentarian. I assumed that because imperialism and capitalism were approved-of by the intelligentsia, they were right.

Until around age 19 I spent lots of time fighting with other teenage anticapitalists who weren't smart enough to articulate their positions. I made a tumblr and got sucked into the whole "Anti-SJW" crowd before realizing that many of the people I was associating with were actually pretty right-wing.

Age 14 - average democrat who liked mommies Michael Moore movies
Age 15 - Entry lolbert
Age 16 - More informed lolbert
Age 17 - total ayncap, spit it out in school, had rand quote in yearbook (final year of high school), actually start learning more and more what socialism is
Age 18 - brief dip in anarcho communism after being woke to socialism
Now - special revolutionary marxist socialist who wants pragmatic but libertarian way to shift society to socialism (rip rosa luxemburg pre-revolution lenin was really cool)

...

"oh no ebil gommies"
learn what communism is and become "Marxist Leninist" (i did'nt even know what that fucking meant)
be a total half commi babby (and a little self righteous)
Actually try reading and learning more of Leftist views
this year was actually quite confusing. I spent time as an Anarchist (first syndicalist, then mutualist, then back to Syndicalist). Then I just became a libertarian Socialist
I like market socialism because I feel it is most pragmatic. However I am extremely sympathetic to leftcoms and full Marxists and i'm waiting to find the piece of information that will make me jump ship. However I'm also scared that through looking for this information, I might pull a Rebel and find something that will make me more centrist

Fascist -> Traditional conservative -> liberal conservative -> christian democrat -> right libertarian -> social liberal -> succdem -> democratic socialist -> communist

bush hating liberal. I recall my mom wearing a shirt that said someting like "build levees not bombs"
left-leaning libertarian but I chose not to read any theory because >muh human nature. also went through a weird phase where I fervently hated anime.
I actually begin reading theory, become a libertarian socialist.
reading anarchist theory

I'm always amused by people who seem to bump from one radicalism to another

I was more or less a liberal until Gregor Gysi celebrated plummetting German birthrates because that way "The evil nazis that oppose refugees aren't multiplying, either."

Been full on 1488 ever since.
He's definetely on the traitor list.

So in other words, you've never been a leftist?

10-13 Absolute Neo-Con theocrat becuase of my parents
14-16 the 2012 election starts to take place so I become a Ron Paul minarchist because he's cool and I use the internet too much and I realize I don't hate LGBT people or drugs
16-17 AnCap (ugh) but constantly fight with AnCaps because I hated how subtly racist they were and really classist. I cared about the poor and oppressed I just still was buying into the myth that the free market would end that.
18 I realize right/American libertarianism is the hugest hypocritical scam and just there to get disenfranchised people to believe in the free market while still seeming radical and getting muh privileged white kids to seem punk, so I'm just really lost and guess I'm mostly an Obama type liberal at this point
19 I've had so much of the alt right that I check leftypol and some radical left subreddits because I just want to circlejerk about how lame they are but end up becoming a left anarchist
I think I was always meant to be one tho
The worst part about it though is I realize how absolutely and unsalvageably spooked my parents are.

...

10-12 liberal with hypocritical tendencies, didn't really understand what was going on in the world
13-14 anti sjw tendencies with a healthy dose of Marxist thought, didn't into economics at this time
15-16 absolutely jaded and hopeless, everything and everyone is bad. Anarchist without adjectives.
17-present(20)anarchist syndicalism, I into'd economics and understood the critical relationship between the states chokehold on the other classes and the means of production. studying the Russian revolution and Venezuela helped me see the shitty side of vanguardian politics I am far too sick of pitching to people as a good idea. It's also fun to mention that part in Monty Python about anarcho syndicalist communes in discussions

12 - 9/11 forces me to become political. maybe best described as "michael moore liberal"
14 - communist
17 - lolbertarian
21 - synthesis of lolbertarian tendencies and re-realization of the inherent stacked deck that is capitalism: become anarchkiddie and spout "muh catalonia"
23 - realize stalin did nothing wrong. communist again, almost 10 years later

Could you explain how new individuals ('citizens') are spawned in market socialism? What do they own? What (and how) do they do when they are 10,15, 30 etc.?

I used to have no opinion, than I read some economics stuff (mainstream and Keynesian) and became pro central planning through how weak the arguments were. Nothing happened during the last ten years.

I was more or less a liberal until Gregor Gysi celebrated plummetting German birthrates because that way "The evil nazis that oppose refugees aren't multiplying, either."
Source: Times of Butthole

age ??? - 16 libertarian
age 17 - 26 socialist

10 - 13 Conservative-leaning
14 - 17 Conservative/Republican (installed by parents)
18 - Now Libertarian, not strictly libertarian though

I'm a filthy liberal but whatever

before 18 - vaguely liberal/libertarian, didn't have strong economic beliefs but was kind of agnostically libertarian

18-19 - started to realize that trying to treat economic issues similar to things like drug laws is silly, started to learn a little bit about economics

20 - started to lean toward social democracy, started to learn even more about economics and non-capitalist economic systems

21 - accepted post-Keynesian economics as the most empirically valid school of economics, leans toward a social democracy or market socialist system running off of post-Keynesian principles

I find liberal principles very important, but I also think that unalienable private property rights are an impediment to actual individual liberty, so in this sense I differ from both classical liberals (who see private property rights as an extension of individual liberty) and social liberals (who are more focused on equality than individual liberty)

10-13 secularist tankie only became interested in politics because of the recession and desired economic stability and equality
14-16 mutualist/anarchist dropped all authoritarianism
17-18 geolibertarian/syndicalist more open to markets and property. opposition to usury and rents is stronger than profits
19-20 Catholic NatSyn found God, became less libertarian

The Greens are eco-socialists now you know.

How do you go from far bottom right top upper left? I've never understood this meme

0-28 - Keynesian progressive
28-29 - class-conscious socialist

I dunno how some people can move through so many ideologies to be honest.