What is it that attracts young and old men alike to degradation pornography? Aside from an obvious inferiority complex...

The thing is, I am on nofap, but I can't control myself when I'm asleep.

Oh and generally these are guys that wouldnt be leaders normally but are forced to take the position because we have no real leaders left. Some guys are better at doing stuff and leaving the planning to others. Its how it is.

It just boggles my mind how some men can be this utterly pathetic.

I don't advocate for this, Dickhead. Obviously the Jewish porn industry has taken its toll on white youth, since excessive porn viewing deincentivizes men from going out and talking to women. However, there's something particularly unusual about this particular type of pornography.

Get this degenerate garbage out of here.

Probably the same reason motivating literal cuckolds I mean those who actually get off on it, not just the men who don't like it but are so desperate for a woman they let it happen

It's Holla Forums. We delve into topics relating to degeneracy all the time, whether that be radical Islam, feminism, MGTOW, etc. You need to be able to understand why these behaviors exists to avoid it from happening (i.e. like what motivates a coal burner to go out with niggers).

Your alright in my book, cunt, do you think that the idea of 'powerful men' (white men in high positions in society) getting off on being spanked and treated like a bitch was propagated by kikes or not? We all know the stereotype im alluding to here…

While I agree its a interesting topic, its still porn OP. It comea off as sliding. At least sage your posts out of respect for other Holla Forumsacks.

It's because the opposite of it is literally shunned everywhere
Hell, I made a post here on one of the threads about me planning to chloroform a jogger chick I've been stalking for months in the nearby park and take her back to my place's basement and chain her up there and rape her daily and you fags told me to get help

Interesting idea.
Makes sense that females only care about the opinions of others - they have no internal personality.

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Stare into the Abyss until you make it blink.

Radical Islam is not a form of degeneracy. It's a form of masculine high-energy. Muslims who become "radicalized" in the West are abandoning the degeneracy around them for a higher purpose.

That doesn't make sense. Why would Holla Forums give help to a nigger?

Prepubescent boy-fucking?

Because thats fucking dumb. Also the opposite is hardly shunned. Despite what it may seem women are still the vast majority of submissives in these types of s&m fetishes

well OP, maybe if you got laid you might realize why men want naked womens all the time.

Martyring themselves, fighting for a cause, serving God.

Pederasty is only a big phenomenon in Afghanistan, and that's in spite of Islam. The Taliban government outlawed it, before murica came and "liberated" Afghanistan.

r u isis? kill youreslf

Mehmed, please. The death cult of Wahhabi Islam is as backward and degenerate as it gets. Look at the things the "proud muslim men" indulge in. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi
Islam is literally the religion prison Niggers convert to when they're serving hard time.

That's different than wanting some ugly, fully-clothed whore to spit in your face

that pedophilia shit was outlawed under taliban rule and ignored after the US kicked taliban out.
also considering their hard stance on opium and it's widespread used today, the Taliban sounds pretty based actually

spot on

I meant

so ermm did you get help or errr..?

No, I'm just making an important distinction between "degeneracy" and "a competing form of traditionalism that threatens the racial integrity of my society." I do not want Islam to overtake Europe, because that would mean the displacement of Europeans, but I don't mind traditionalist Muslim movements per se, and not at all in native Muslim lands. I think we can learn a lot from them as we try to regenerate the White race.

The "Wahhabi" Muslim Brotherhood is starting to get closer with "based" Shiite Iran and Hezbollah, in the aftermath of Qatar's isolation. This is a return to the time of pan-Islamic solidarity, when a Muslim Brother gave Hezbollah the pseudonym "Islamic Resistance."

After their defeat in Syria-Iraq, the Wahhabis will look inward and attack the Saudi monarchy. This is a good thing which we should meme into reality.

good thread OP. Thank you for sharing your wisdom

This, exactly. This is why it's easy for Islamic terrorism to recruit. They confront the westernized Muslim and make him ashamed of his modern weakness and degeneracy. In his heart is still a longing for Islamic strength and purity.

Every young Muslim man in the West is vulnerable to such recruitment because he lives in a low energy, feminized society and Islam offers a high energy masculine revolt which ties to his ancestral values.

However under a Saddam Hussein, the young man's attention is taken by the high energy of the regime, the cruelty with which it hammers its enemies.

you are fucking retarded these terrorits are chopping each other heads off killing other muslims raping whoever they meet, brainwashing women on the internet to join by going on 'sex jihad'
fucking kill yourself ignorant isis cock sucker

It's simply self harm through the fetishisation of self hatred.

It's no different to cutting yourself.

You seemed redpilled on Islam in this post

Why are you going full "they chop off heads and use comfort wymyn omg how barbaric and sexist" now?

you are retarded. stop saging and kill yourself. too stupid to even look past generalizations. taliban and wahhabis are two completely different things. there's like 10 kinds of muslims

or start saging. stop bumping this retarded thread

nod really, at most you can say that the Taliban branched out of Wahhabism.

no, I do not take orders from roody-poos.

This. Religion and secular nationalism can both capture the imaginations of deracinated young men.

During the Lebanese Civil War, the secular SSNP did the largest amount of suicide bombings, not Hezbollah.

Taliban is a Deobandi offshoot Hanafi and Wahhabi is a corruption of Hanbali and Islam in general. More importantly the Wahhabi's have corrupted the Islamic understanding of takfir leading to their massacre of other Muslims and whoever they deem an 'apostate'

enjoy your eventual ban

ono I have insubordinated an arrogant user who got triggered by my posts, that he perceived as supporting ISIS.

Your mother was overbearing and since you felt familiar with that sort of disfunction you picked out a few bad girlfriends in a row.

Stop interacting with that sort of woman, get out and find a traditional girl who has a good relationship with her father and you'll break the degeneracy cycle for your future lineage.

Good luck OP.

Simple: a woman who is under total control, to the point that she can have her mouth urinated into, presents no risk of leaving or cheating (as her freedoms are completely under the control of her husband) and therefore reminds him of the ideal wife.
The wife who he knows is carrying HIS child, because she hasn't been allowed to go anywhere unattended for years.
The wife who he knows will NOT decide to leave him on a whim, or after reading an article in a women's magazine (because he would use force to stop her.)
There's nothing "inferiority" about it.
tl;dr the same things which attract a man to the pictures of sluts in fancy dress posing in wheat fields for money, while pretending to be pure, obedient virgins who only want to raise a family.
Both are as delusional, but both are firmly rooted in perfectly healthy drives - the drive to have an obedient wife who is raising YOUR children.
This thread was either started by a feminist or a d&c goon.
If you want men to stop using porn, teach women to marry and give out sex.
No, studies prove that women rate 80% of men as "below average", while men's rating of women follow a standard bell curve.
The problem will never go away until women's expectations are corrected to match their value.
i.e until the laws sustaining female bad behaviour are revoked.

Going the other way, degrading women seems easier to understand. For this… I would *guess* it's a relief? It's the saying of what they already know, which is that they're pathetic and do have a small penis which matters to them.

I say that having hacked some of these companies and whores and I can tell you, there's no common theme among the buyers. Niggers buy a ton of this shit. Spics, you name it. It's NOT old, 'rich' White guys anymore than the demographics in society. I extort fuckers where I can so I look out for that.

I knew femdom, degradation and roleplay were things but what the fuck I can't stop laughing. How goddamn pathetic do you have to be to pay for this shit?

We are discussing femdom idjit.

Daddy issues causes the girls to go into porn.

Their attitude toward men when they are at peak SMV causes boys to turn to porn and some of the, like to see a pretty girl humiliated.

I don't.

The legbeards are not wrong when they blame the men for porn. Dad and boy.

Is you name Jeff and are you posting from 1987, when you asked me WHERE to buy chloroform in Scarborough?

One way I am trying is just going balls out telling girls about the 20mil I made know BTC in the past month. Goldiggers self-identify and are eliminated.

They are taught to hate women and that is how it manifests.

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So this is a bit of a topic shift but I don't think it's important enough to warrant its own thread and all the other threads seem more important, so I'm hijacking this:

There's two behaviors at war in men (or at least, myself and I assume other men): The desire for quality and the desire for quantity. The quantity-urge is simultaneously primal and cultural (impregnate as many women as possible and hope some survive/hearing stories about the sex other people are having and wanting that too).

What methods are suggested for getting over the "I want some of *that*" keeping-up-with-the-joneses urge for quantity over quality?

Or are those urges things that *should* be repressed? I've been considering that perhaps being somewhat "pushy" sexually would be a good way to wean out the low quality girls (the girls who give it up aren't worth keeping, the ones who put up more resistance are).

It's an issue for me in deciding what to think/do because there are a bunch of different scientific facts that run contrary to each other and it's hard to separate them. I'm almost thinking the "optimal" solution is polygyny, but tradition might be more valuable than that?

Anyone who has had similar thoughts/troubles and has some insight to share, I'd appreciate it.

Have the 9/10 hot woman you're dating stalk you.

The next one I dated was about a 4, she wasn't as nuts, but she was a (((jourmalist))) song I was the cuck…

Nothing. Jews tell you they are attracted to it and you believed them.

Reported.

here

This is what I've been thinking while considering polygyny. Most men have been cucked by the jewish media. I can't save them all (even if I can try). And besides, it's a biological urge, I want my race to outcompete other races, but I also want my personal genetics to outcompete the rest of my race's. So logically, if they're into being cuckolded (and will still crave racial similarity even if they're being reprogrammed to go against it), wouldn't the "best" solution be to steal the lesser white men's wives and make as many strong white babies with my genetics as possible?

There was a website I read a bit ago when I decided to quit porn, and it said something along the lines of "if 95% of guys watch porn/masturbate and you don't, you basically have a superpower in terms of time/energy saved and directed towards something productive". And I recall another post someone said about how girls react when they hear you say "I don't watch porn". Being in that 20% that's "above average" isn't hard, and as a white guy it puts you in the top 1% of humanity.

If I were religious I'm sure monogamy would still make perfect sense, and I've swallowed the "atheism is a jewish invention" red pill, but that doesn't make choosing a replacement belief set easy.

I kek'd
DESPITE ALL MY RAGE I AM STILL JUST AN UGLY NIC CAGE

Kike shill.

Stop pushing jewish lies.

Numerous studies show that male behavior is heavily influenced by the operational sex ratio–or the ratio between fertile females and sexually active males. If male and female numbers are equal then the best strategy is for a male to find a female, pair off, and protect/provide for his own kids. If there are more fertile females than males, the best mating strategy for males is to put less resources caring for their kids and more resources trying to mate with multiple females. (note l: urban blacks in America fall into this category because of the amount of young black males either in prison or killed by other black males. result is that black males spend more time chasing other women and less time being fathers) (note 2: possibly bigamy became common in these societies to prevent the excess of available females from encouraging men to sleep around instead of be fathers)
If there are more males than females, the males that have mates get obsessed with protecting them from the surplus males, who form rape gangs to try to get access to the smaller numbers of females. In polygamous societies, every man that has two wives creates a man who can never mate unless he rapes. Bigamy effectively turns a balanced operational sex ratio into a heavily male-biased one. Islam is a codified set of behaviors for protecting females from rape gangs (burka, can’t go outside without male guardian) and exporting the surplus males to neighboring societies so they don’t bother the local females (jihad). That is, essentially, Islam–a code of behaviors designed by a guy with multiple wives in a bigamous society to keep womanless men away from his wives.
The surplus males generated by bigamy are told, “These women are off-limits; they’re spoken for by more powerful men in your society. If you want to get laid, your only option is to go out and conquer something and take their women.” This is how Islam spread so quickly in its first few centuries and this is the driving force behind the huge amount of young men flooding into Europe today. They are not refugees, they are sex tourists. It should be no surprise they are so rapey.

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Monogamy is how a society encourages the weakest males to be productive, since it ensures they’ll be able to find a mate. Another argument you can use is that polygamy brings about social instability. Due to the fact that older, richer, more established men grab all the women, it means that the search for a mate among the younger males is all the more desperate, and violent. Polygamous societies are inherently unstable, prone to great social unrest from the younger men that cannot find a woman. Now, this is fine and dandy if you want to motivate those men to join the army and go conquer someplace else and steal their women, as well as the fact that war attrition will get rid of plenty of those young men, but once your empire has expanded as much as it can the same problems crop up, but this time with no possible outside outlet.
It is no coincidence that enduring civilizations made the switch from polygamy to monogamy over the course of their history, and I highly suspect the troubles Arab civilizations faced around the 14th and 15th century were in large part caused by their reliance on polygamy. You can argue that current Arab societies are what they are because of polygamy. Women are a rare commodity that are fiercely guarded, hence the restrictions placed on their behavior and the need to have a male relative escort them when they are out, lest they be stolen by some other family. The high level of inbreeding could also be part of this, with a family trying to keep all the wealth and power among themselves.

I don't actually know the gender split between male and female whites, but you're also talking at a higher level than me. I'm not talking about a trend of other guys doing this, I'm saying these guys who want to be cucked and give up their breeding role anyway.

Re: Monogamy, on the one hand I see the argument for it, on the other I think the sense of entitlement it generates is part of the problem. Shit like r/incels on reddit ("involuntary celibate", people who can't get laid and blame women for that). Value should come from the self first, and that is what attracts people.

I dunno, a while ago I identified as "polyamorous" which usually describes a guy whose girlfriend sleeps around IME. But it was usually me and 2-3 other girls depending on the time. Right now I'm single though and just trying to figure my shit out. Part of me wants a traditional marriage, part of me wants to experience everything different women have to offer, part of me just wants to leave my mark on humanity. Genghis Khan is in what percentage of humanity's DNA? Why not me? Goals, right?

Or they end up fucking each other; homosexuality was a big problem in traditional arab culture.

Fucking wew

I honestly feel sorry for this current generation of moralfags

How come Jews don't practice polygyny then? Seems like its only dunecoons and magic underpants that do it.

sex

everyone read this=

It was a thread from last summer, maybe the single greatest thread ive ever seen in Holla Forums. It contains all the answers you seek op.
Tl;dr modern porn forces the man to identify his sexual pleasure, with that of pleasing the woman. From here, they bombard men with feelings of inferiority, which forces men to remove themselves entirely from the equation (lesbian porn). This begins a slippery slope of beta cuckery.

kek

Jew.

Pay attention, please.

Let’s talk about Sweden, as an example.

A lot has been written about when Swedes will become a minority in Sweden. For 16-year-old Swedish boys, this will become a reality by 2016, considering the current immigration volume. Because of this, a massive imbalance will be created between the sexes. You can figure this out with simple math. Out of the “unaccompanied refugee children” that have arrived during 2015, 91% have been boys. 2,164 “unaccompanied refugee children” have arrived during the last 7 days, which means that we get 309 per day. That gives us 281 boys and 28 girls. 32% of the “unaccompanied refugee children” were 16 years old during 2014 (and 20% were 17). That gives us 90 “unaccompanied refugee boys” and 9 “unaccompanied refugee girls” who are 16 per day.
In 2014, there were 52,562 16-year-old boys and 48,627 16-year-old girls. Per day that gives us 144 boys and 133 girls. Total amount of 16-year-olds per day:
Boys: 144 non-unaccompanied refugee kids (swedes and immigrants), 90 unaccompanied refugee kids
Girls: 133 non-unaccompanied refugee kids, 9 unaccompanied refugee kids
This means that 36% of all 16-year-old boys will be “unaccompanied refugee children” within a year going by today’s levels. Further, because already now 30% of kids age 13-17 have an immigrant background, we get the following:
Summary age group 16-year-olds per day:
Boys: 101 Swedish, 133 immigrants (90 “unaccompanied refugee children” included)
Girls: 93 Swedish, 49 immigrants (9 “unaccompanied refugee children” included)
In other words, among 16-year-old boys the immigrants will be in a clear majority before the end of 2016. To this you also have to add the other 16-year-old refugee children that show up with their parents or who show up later via reunion. This will speed up the process even more.
This means there will be 165 boys per 100 girls in this age group in Sweden! Do China or lndia come close to this kind of gender imbalance? No. It’s even worse than in those countries. In India, 115 boys are born per 100 girls, and in China the number is only 119 boys per 100 girls.
Even if the multiculti traitors don’t care that Swedes will become a minority, they still have to understand the explosive potential of a society with 165 boys per 100 girl. I’m at loss for words.

Sweden is abolishing itself.

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That's fairly simple to explain. Pornography is like a drug. It causes a quick dopamine high, but over time, this signal weakens. Your brain starts getting bored of "vanilla" porn, so you need to start seeking out more and more extreme stimuli.

they men are being replaced with shit-skins, and feminists that run that country are gleeful over it. basicly sweden is warning of what happens when the west caves to feminist.

Just read it, good work overall. But there's one thing, he writes that unlike watching porn where the male penetrates the woman if you watch only solo woman masturbate themselves, or even worse, lesbians mutually masturbating themselves, you become insert yourself into the position of the woman and therefore into a position of the recipient and submission.
THIS IS UTTER FUCKING FAGGOTRY AS I EVER READ SOME.
The female body is an holy idol to be worshiped. You just cannot seriously claim that gazing at it would be more detrimental to your sexuality then to watch the dick of a stranger fuck her.
When you prefer to watch a dude fuck a women instead of using your imagination them you are a FAGGOT.

that sounds like the thoughts of a cuck or a trany. i'm sorry but the worship of women and femininity always leads to ruin (it's why the west is dying now)

I don't worship women nor femininity. I know it sounded like coming from a gay monk but i was in a hurry (rly). But the woman body is the main and only attracting thing to the male dick. Getting off by seeing it is a normal way to getting off, well and fucking it of course. The guy behind the textwall suggested that you begin to insert yourself into the women's body mentally to achieve an orgasm. That's not true, maybe for him but then its a pretty dangerous generalization and claiming that you should be looking at a guy fucking a woman instead is just gay. If you fantasize about being the woman you are seeing instead of penetrating her, well porn sure ain't you main problem.

Sage'ing a poor slide thread, but it does present an interesting question despite OP's proclivity for sucking cocks.

We're all aware of (((their))) attempts to feminize men through media manipulation. Whether it's due to ZOG or just a natural consequence of social evolution from movements like feminism, the result is the same: men as a whole are told that they're violent monsters, their impulses are impure, there is a stigma that comes with having a penis. The message, at its core, is simply "Don't be a bad man."

Problem is women LOVE bad men. Our media glorifies action heroes who slaughter hundreds to rescue one damsel. Women's panties get wet at the presence of the Chad who defies social rules and imposes his will on those around him. Also, women's attentions are drifting away from the men in their proximity to the dark meat being imported in, because women can't understand the difference between necessarily bad (required to kill and dominate to protect) and inherently bad (has no limitations on killing). This results in a dichotomy of male value: society wants good men, but women value bad men.

This fetishization of female ridicule is what happens when men grow up to become exactly what society wants of them. They are weak, their dominance has been domesticated, and they are unhappy. They are unhappy because they see the men who are breaking the rules and getting laid and lusted after. But can they get angry about such things? If they were men, they could, but they're no longer men; they're memories of men. They want to be the cheater, the bad boy, but they can't because they would receive social disdain from those closest to them. However, there is a sub-genre of porn where someone will recognize them as a total piece of shit. There are women who will look at them with disdain, seeing them as bad men, and in seeing them as bad men satisfy their desire to actually be competitive sexually. These women will embody the judgement of society that these weak men have internalized, and she will perceive him as the bad men that actually get laid, and in doing such a thing, the weak man fulfills the fantasy of becoming a bad man, and therefore a strong man. A valued man. A worthy man.

Wait until child support enforcement isn't a thing, user.

My father ran a payroll and he used to bring home horror stories about the FRO and third party demands (mostly in Ontario, Leafland, but BC has some downright fucked laws about common law marriage too).

You forgot the main reason why porn took off and we have this problem: extreme privacy about paraphilias.

This is why even the fetlife crowd is sperging out about Pizzagate. They think the 14 and 15 year olds they drugged and brought to a party are squealing.

Yep. This is why Catholics are based.

Try harder, moishe.

Fuck off (4).

porn causes paraphilias

underrated

Basically many men realise women don't improve their life - so fap or avoid them (MGTOW) altogether.
OP is sliding harder than a penguin fleeing a killer whale, so saged.

Source on that Fetlife bit? A girl I know on Kikebook liked them and I made a dummy account to find her on there, haven't contacted her since

They all engage in boy fucking you lying piece of shit. Why do you think Vlad impaled them?

Stop pretending you're not a cuck. You already admitted to what you are deep down inside. A broken sad mock up of a person. Fix your own head before you start talking to anyone else.

Men worship motherhood not females. That is why we go too war, that is why we put our bodies on the line to protect woman. They bring life, when a woman is a whore and produces no children and makes you wonder if a child is yours or not. SHE IS NOTHING WHEN SHE IS A MOTHER SHE IS EVERYTHING.

A real mother, a woman who had strong male influence growing up and had virtue instilled in her. Who has a sense of duty to her children and her husband is worth dozen of soldiers. Great men out shine woman, but it is only the best of men who are better than real mothers.