Why is NoA doing things like these? This is the kind of thing you see from companies like Marvelous or Idea Factory...

Nope

So it was just to get free attention to the game? I honestly wonder if bombed harder than Devil's Turd at this point.

sales in japan were devastatingly low. why would it be any better elsewhere?

Sales figures will never be released because they can't brag about how well it sold. I expect Nintendo and Atlus to memory-hole this game in the coming weeks, due to what an embarrassing failure it is.

I'm sure it did bomb harder than Devil's Third. What makes it worse is that it was heavily advertised to children on the Disney channel for some incomprehensible reason. Nintendo of America has to be the most incompetent in the world when it comes to marketing strategies.

Would you shills this to anyone but children?

every thread

It gets the point across. Something that you might notice by now is that at about around 0:58 you can see that it switches from 3D to 2D drawings then back again at 1:04.

the point of that tweet was to remind people that crap exist, but the game DID bomb hard and rightfully so.

no, but they have to at least try.

It's not like that's an uncommon thing to do in anime.

I guess they hoped it would have the Neptunia effect or somethin.

But hey, it finally bombed. Maybe it'll teach Nintendo not to do shit localizations or that people want the real SMT x FE.

Nintendo I can see trying to bury it when it bombed compared to Xenoblade, Atlus though I think would want people to know it exists if they wasted money bringing it over. But a game bombing Devil's Third has to say a lot, especially when they figured they can advertise it to kids instead of weebs.

They know they fucked up with this game, and now they're pushing it as hard as they can.

they will never EVER learn, that shit happens since ever and i'm not joking, Nintendo censor shit and fuck up localizations since NES.

I seriously hope they learn eventually. It isn't the NES era anymore where they're number one and can get away with anything anymore.

It also doesn't make sense when Bayonetta 1 and 2 got away unscratched, but apparently shit like Fatal Frame 5 can't.

That's pretty funny, user.

Things seemed to be going pretty well after the SNES.

nep isn't selling in japan? weird, she seems to appear on popularity polls fpr vidya characters so often

Did you miss the fact that they're doing shit localizations on purpose to avoid text-heavy or riskier games? They were literally forced by NoJ to localize Splatoon hands and feet tied because NoA hated the idea of translating it since it isn't just another Mario.

NoA is the cancer killing Nintendo.

I thought NepNep sold very well in Japan. Relatively speaking, of course. The Nep games have very low budgets and are considered niche, so even 200,000 copies sold are enough to be profitable.

The games only sell 30,000 on average. The PC port on the other hand seem to sell about 50-200 thousand copies though.

It has to happen eventually, it doesn't make sense that one company can be so out of touch and let not only the PS4 but the Xbone steal their spot.

So Nintendo censors game for weebs then act like weebs on Twitter to market the game. Uh-huh.

Remember, this is the same Nintendo of America that had exclusive demos of Super Mario 3D world at Pottery Barn. Embed related.

It will teach Treehouse to hate money?
The more Treehouse changes in a localization, the more work/hours they put in, the more money they get.
All the superfluous changes are not entirely agenda-motivated, but greed-motivated. So it's going to keep happening.

Of course, the SJW agenda is there & it is having an impact. There are meritless quota hires responsible for some of the worst localization writing you've ever seen. For another example of the broader quota cancer trend just look at what quota hires like Hepler are doing at Bioware. Those sorts of parasitic "ruin everything I touch" people are definitely involved in Treehouse's localizations. Meritocracy is being eroded by SJWs & it clearly shows in the end product. Tech/Gaming is getting hammered really hard by quota cancer right now. Another example happened at Sony's E3 where they showcased all the feminist groups they've funded to "get more womyn into the industry". Anyone who is not a brainwashed virtue-signaling progressive dipshit realizes quota hires aren't going to magically become better than meritocracy hires no matter how much money is thrown at SJW scam artist groups that Sony listed at E3.

NoA is trash. NoJ is based as hell. In a recent article about their shareholder meeting, one of them actually explicitly told them to hire women. One of the Nintendo execs responded by saying that Reggie Fils-Aime was the head of their American division.

what the fuck

why live

NoA can go gas themselves

tr/a/sh confirmed.

I have a theory about that. After the SNES, the ESRB was in place which relieved Nintendo of the perceived obligation to censor games to be "family friendly." The ESRB put out the ratings, and retailers enforced them. This held for the N64 and Gamecube, then the Wii sold a bajillion units because of normalfags and broke the scales for what Nintendo considered "success" to be. Now, they want to recapture that market that was basically a one-off fluke, so they're censoring hard to avoid offending suburban soccer moms.

Of course, it's a retarded strategy for their consoles because normalfags moved almost exclusively to mobile. Eventually, so will Nintendo.

I think the same thing's happenig to Nintendo, that's happening all over the place. People are hearing the cries of SJW's and thinking they represent a larger majority of potential customers than they actually do.

i wanna know how the fuck that even works. the fan outcries obviously outnumber sjws by a metric fuckton, how does that even make sense?

I guess they think the fans will buy it no matter what.

and they would be right

Don't buy this game, lad. You're better than that.

Because the people that work in localizations are SJW's.

the last "nintendo" game i bought was wind waker HD with the wii u
2 years ago.

Not anymore. Sometimes people get tired and go "fuck it, I got other things to buy".

I freely admit that even if the game had come over completely uncensored, or, hell, if they had outright sexified it and put all female characters in barely-there bikinis, I still wouldn't have fucking bought it.

I'm STILL fucking salty over that first fucking trailer they released when they announced the game.

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Because the people working in gaming are also SJWs, waiting for an excuse (manufactured themselves sometimes) to change things.

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I was willing to give it a chance until censorship.

Bravo, NoA, bravo.

It's a cherrypicked scene from the end of the game. I've been playing it pirated with a restoration patch and there's definitely a bit of cringe here and there but nothing like that is consistently happening at any point.

Basically they use a metric.

i dont understand why that pic isnt a pinned post. telling people to get off their asses and do something about their problem is what we need.

then again how many of you are actually willing to try this suggestion?

I've mailed 3 letters complaining about NoA's censorship or blatant lack of respect/care in localization to NoJ.

I never even got notification if the goddamned things were received. Maybe I wrote the streetname wrong. Maybe I wrote the address in the wrong order. Or, hell, maybe they got it and just never read it or didn't think it was worth the trouble to send an international letter back.

At least NoA sent me a fucking Pokemon card (and a form letter) when I complained to them about Treehouse.

That's from GG buried all sorts of places six feet into the dirt doing this. Basically companies know that people react and have opinions but they rarely voice their opinions so it's an unspoken rule that one voice equals about toughly 1000 people if they receive a pile of mail PR shits bricks but they throw out copypastas.

*No wait that's from the Xenoblade Chronicles X threads or another censored port thread.

Was it in Japanese? Their home website says basically they can't address any letters not Japanese.

no one got off their asses but a few.

i like to have a tiny bit of hope

well. at least i can still say we're fucked.

If I could write in Japanese I wouldn't be fucking angry about NoA's censorship and piss-poor localization.

judging by the population of Holla Forums
There were probably a number of people who didn't buy it or pirated it, and the other margin just didn't care.

I didn't imply anything son.

I'm not talking down to you, I'm telling you point-blank why your effort didn't work. The letters at bare minimum have to be in Japanese, or NoJ is policy-bound to blackbin them.

We need NEETS that know Japanese to start a translation company and get the licenses for nip games to officially translate them.

I didn't think you were talking down to me, I was just saying that if I had the capability to understand the Japanese language to a point where I could write business-level language letters to a multinational corporation about topics as obscure as censorship and localization, I wouldn't be in the position to need to complain about such things in the first place.

My knowledge of Japanese extends about as far as 厚いですね。

How much would it cost to get a letter translated and shipped over to japan? I really want them to know how angry i am at treehouse over xenoblade. On a side note: do you think its possible to get nintendo to do a retranslation of xenoblade x?

l-lewd

No.

Oh god no. That would cost them way too much for something that would barely sell at this point. When they release previously Japan only games on the virtual console, they don't even bother putting in the effort to give them an English title screen and menu.

That would also involve them admitting that they made a mistake, which is something that they rarely do. The only time they ever change the content of a game between printings is if they're removing something that people found offensive, like in Ocarina of Time.

That's a convoluted way of saying: "All hope is lost."

I swear that "Kowashitai" ("I want to break (it)") at the beginning of the trailer was referring to the hearts of anyone who liked MegaTen or FE.

What about ぬるぬる？

Same. The gameplay also looked too much like Persona and I lost interest completely.

Man, I wish it'd been Persona's gameplay, instead it looked more like Persona 3.

If you had said "We need anons that know japanese" that would work, but NEETs by definition do not work. The most NEETs might do is organize a fan translation if they really enjoy a game.

Not like we can learn nip.
I don't have patience to learn Japanese as it takes years.

I'll probably just stop playing nip games or get fan translations.

no more than 5 bucks

You can learn Japanese. If you give up, it just means you don't love vidya enough.

I have sincerely tried. I know most hiragana, and a few kanji. But there is just so fucking many kanji i just cant wrap my head around it.

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reminded me of pic related

Years motherfucker.
If it's a few months, I get.

But Japanese takes years, nobody got that time and patience.

It only takes about three years for a native English speaker to become proficient at Japanese. By contrast, it takes a native Japanese speaker at least five years to become proficient in English

You don't need to know them all. Learn your kana, learn the most basic kanji and grammar, then jump right in and learn as you go. Think of kanji as vocabulary words, you pick them up by seeing them in material and reading/using them repeatedly.

ワリィが、もう日本語でゲームやってるんだから。

Yes we do.

But they have alot more english in their country than we have japanese in america. They can pick up new words and phrases alot, but americans barely see any japanese letters or words. I think japs also learn english in highschool, so that helps.

fuck this language and fuck this translator

Now imagine that being used to translate most of the games you want to play before being edited to push whatever agenda the localization agency wants to push.

Basically I said "Sorry, but I'm already playing games in Japanese"

got like
2% hope left now

I hope that was some hardcore minmaxing

Nihonese, Korean, Chinese, all these moon runes languages make absolutely no sense. How do they classify kanjis on a dictionary? How do they do an alphabetical sort on a list of kanji words? Our alphabet is beautifully recursive and can represent all word in all Western languages, with the addition of just a few symbols (accents, umlaut, the cedil,etc.).

Fuck Japan.

That doesn't change the fact that this exist and they axed a good crossover for it.

Is the shit about the Final Boss having 8 weaknesses true?

If it is then I think you'll get your answer.

That was probably the final boss. The final boss has 8 weaknesses out of 10.

Is there porn of Kiria yet?

I guess the question is what is it not weak to?

Do the other bosses have a ton of weaknesses or was atlus just afraid of making the game too hard for that instance?

Probably the 2 instant death spells. Im assuming they have mudo and hama in it if theyre copying persona.

You can thank the Romans and their conquest of Europeal.

Our alphabet is actually Roman.

Original Anglo/Germanic alphabet are runes.

*Europe

It's more like Phoenician > Greek > Latin

Explain "proficient". How much familiar would you have to be? Also, passive (listening, reading) and active (speaking, writing) skill levels almost never match each other.

All the more reason to start learning

From what I gather it can be based on stroke order, or an "alphabetical" order that goes "A I U E O" and then down the list of "A KA SA TA NA HA MA YA RA WA"

If anything, the versatility of the language makes it annoying as fuck. Think about how many pronunciations some letters have - vowels of course, but shit like "c" being pronounced either like an "s" or a "k" too. Then there's combination sounds, like "ph" or "ch" that make zero sense, and in the case of "ph" is redundant with "f" anyway - and this is without even going into silent letters, like the "k" in "knight." This gives us shit like the word "success" where even if you're a native speaker, if you've never seen/heard this word you'd have no fucking clue how to say it. Hell, you have the same letter twice in a row yet it changes pronunciation right there. You could guess like 10 different things based on the spelling and have reason to believe they're right.
So sure, English has only 26 letters as opposed to 46 kana (and that before including the variant sounds with tenten and maru signs) but with a kana you at least know how to fucking pronounce it. Similarly, there's a shitton of kanji, but guess what? You barely need to know 1/4 of it to be considered literate, same way you can be literate without knowing a vast portion of the English vocabulary.

It's pretty much set in stone that people will simply buy a NX for Breath of the Wild, and the system ends up selling as a result. Rather than the NX selling first and then people getting Zelda.

Wii U will have no effect on NX when it comes to Zelda.

The reason there are so many different ways to pronounce letters is because of the number of loan words we have. In Japan, they can't loan words over properly because their kana doesn't support english pronunciation. This is why they say things like "Googuru" when loaning words over.

Kanji and English words are also completely different. Once you know how to write 26 different glyphs you know how to represent every word in the English language, and you can learn words by being told how they're spelled verbally. In Japanese, you need to read each individual kanji and learn how to write it, verbal explanation isn't sufficient (unless it's a kanji that's basically the same as another common one, like tree/forest)

how do the japanese learn this shit

That's a fair point. I've usually come at it looking from the angle of receiving information, but from the angle of being an output rather than an input, it's easier to learn English, yes. I'd say it's much easier to learn how to read Japanese though, if only because of greater overall consistency, as well as more information being contained in each symbol.

The same way anyone learns their native language - being exposed to it nonstop from an age where the brain is still sucking up everything it can like a sponge.

NA and Europe could've been a saving grace if they hadn't censored it. Treehouse and 8-4 make their games too much of a gamble at a non-refundable $60.

I think you mean it's easier to convert Japanese words into pronunciation, but you'd be wrong. You have to learn which kana correspond to the kanji involved.

English is easier to learn at a rudimentary level. I think English is also easier to learn at an advanced level.

Actually, there are just a few letters that exhibit that characteristic, depending on the language (usually c, j, s, and x). Most consoants have pretty consistent usage.

That's usually kept for etymological reasons, and are unecessary, if the dictionaries would just push for a reform.

I mean it's easier to get information period - with kana you can get the correct pronunciation, while with kanji you can get the meaning even without knowing pronunciation.

To be fair I'm unable to say for sure since English is my native language and I have had advantages in learning Japanese due to being exposed it from childhood even if I didn't actually start learning until later on.

Most do by themselves, but again, even the ones that do sometimes get put into bullshit like "ph." Either way it's silly.

I would imagine it'd be very hard to change, considering how heavily rooted language is for people.

thats scary, thats not dog teeth

Another thing is that, by the SNES era, Nintendo was in pretty fierce competition with SEGA which led to extreme loosening of censorship. Now days Nintendo is in it's own little niche by itself and it no longer has direct competition, so the old censorious behaviors of NoA have reasserted itself. They need direct competition especially in the handheld department.
Wonder if Bandai might like to take a swing at a Wonderswan 2.0?

Because at this point they can't make the game any worse

I keep looking at this dog, for years now, it always reminds me of someone. Can't quite put my finger on it.

michael rosen

Officially? Most likely no, unless another version comes out in the future with a different western publisher than the original (IE: Muramasa got a retranslation when Aksys picked it up for the Vita, while Ignition had botched the Wii translation). Though even at times like that, sometimes the new publisher can wind up reusing the old translation (which, if the original translation was good, is fine, but not in a case like XCX). Really depends on the game and company.

Fan-made retranslation? Possibly. Depends on how devoted fans would be to getting the entire game out there with a better translation (fanbase size isn't exactly required to be high; looking at something niche like Ar Tonelico 2, fans have been working for a while now to unfuck its shit after NISA shat the bed with bringing it west).

I am a college student

College students my age are cringey normalfaggots who love openly talking about niche things that they know nothing about.

They eat this shit up.

Well seeing as how Pokemon GO is happening, I'd say they're already on their way into the mobile market.

Daily reminder that it was nintendo personally and with out anyone pressuring them that single handedly created ESRB in a desperate attempt to stop sega from assraping them with uncensored Mortal Kombat.

Bless you, user.

And people will never know why she is best girl

That is actually how well most niche titles do in Japan.

I sincerely doubt that, people thought Super Smash Bros. would sell Wii Us, it didn't, people thought Super Mario 3D World would sell Wii Us, it didn't.

Meanwhile the PS4 had a moderately good marketing campaign, and it sold for a long time before it had any games, and even now it only has a few exclusives. Games don't sell consoles to normalfags, marketing does and Nintendo can't into marketing anymore, the NX will bomb.

My mom thought for the longest the Wii U was just a tablet add on to the wii until she actually saw me playing it when she came over to visit.