Do you hate rich people? I'm on the service industry having to deal with rich...

Brandon Robinson
Brandon Robinson

Do you hate rich people?

I'm on the service industry having to deal with rich kids all the time and I fantasize about revolution whenever I deal with them.

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Joshua Collins
Joshua Collins

Depends on how they got rich. i mostly just hate people.

Jace Sullivan
Jace Sullivan

I think the successful business owners under capitalism will be the politicians/executives/directors under socialism
so whatever I'd just prefer a peaceful seizure of production by mass strike

Jaxon Bennett
Jaxon Bennett

tbh I do. Even moderately rich people make me really angry. It pisses me off to hear finance/STEM fags whining about their money problems when they make 100k a year. I even feel kind of mad when I hear about people on 50k…

Hunter Flores
Hunter Flores

i dont hate rich people who worked for their wealth, but dumb kids with rich parents are annoying as fuck
hurr durr i just hate everyone durrrr hurrrr
no you dont youre just really fucking edgy

Matthew Baker
Matthew Baker

Yes.

I know it's possible to be a rich proletariat or a poor bourgeoisie but in the end i still hate rich people even though I know its only the bourgeoisie i should hate.

Easton Powell
Easton Powell

Yes, but only the ones who are dicks about it. I have a friend who comes from money that is tolerable. I like to tell him he's my Engels.

Aiden Jones
Aiden Jones

i said "most people" not everyone. I dont like people.

Joseph Long
Joseph Long

i dont hate rich people who worked for their wealth, but dumb kids with rich parents are annoying as fuck

Yeah having money per se doesn't automatically make me think anything about you individually. But people who were either brought up in it or have the "proper mindset" for bourgeois society tend to be insufferable.

Ayden Collins
Ayden Collins

People who were brought up in even moderate amounts of wealth have no idea how good they have it.

Dylan Diaz
Dylan Diaz

Do you hate rich people?
a bit

Levi Morgan
Levi Morgan

im from a fairly wealthy family and went a snooty private school, and i agree many rich people are insufferable, mostly because all the ones i knew were big conservatives even though everything had been handed to them and were lazy fucks. the smarter kids (i.e. the ones who actually gave the school its reputation) usually hailed from more modest backgrounds.

tfw kid with billionaire dad that held fundraisers for mitt romney talked about the evils of entitlement programs when he was a mediocre student who bought his way into princeton

Thomas Clark
Thomas Clark

im gonna rephrase that, i hate people with wealth that believe that because they have wealth they are somehow better people. Capitalists should however be hung.

Jonathan Gonzalez
Jonathan Gonzalez

the smarter kids (i.e. the ones who actually gave the school its reputation) usually hailed from more modest backgrounds.
but rich kid dont need to get high grades in order to be succesfull, thats why

Daniel Campbell
Daniel Campbell

Some are alright.
Many have no idea that they are rich though. I read an interesting paper a while back on average earnings in Australia and another another that surveyed a large group on what they considered the average income.
Most people, regardless of rich or poor, considered their income to be either be right on top of the bell curve, or just under.
In reality the average yearly income was something like $45,000.
Meanwhile people earning around $250,000 thought they were "just below the average income".
People like that infuriate me.

Logan Rivera
Logan Rivera

(i.e. the ones who actually gave the school its reputation)
I had a scholarship to a private school for a while. Unintentionally, many of my friends were also on scholarships (we were young and didn't even realise this fact for quite a while or even our family backgrounds for a few years). While I had some friends who had rich parents, generally speaking your spot on - its usually the people from working back grounds that are busting their asses to try and break out of poverty.

Parker Rodriguez
Parker Rodriguez

No, but I do hate pretentious people…

Kevin Ramirez
Kevin Ramirez

On a similar note, I read an interesting thing from Bourdieu once where he said that, today, the training processes that someone has to go through to "validate" their social position (good education, networking, learning the proper way to behave) help them create in their minds a narrative that their status was really earned and given to them by merit and achievement.

With both of these in mind, I genuinely wonder if the bourgeoisie today even realises that they are the "upper classes" we're always talking about.

Cameron Bell
Cameron Bell

Its a trap isn't it?

Jeremiah Wilson
Jeremiah Wilson

depends

are they wealthy because they have a productive profession in something like medicine or law, or are they wealthy because they have a big family business?

Lucas Price
Lucas Price

An ideology built on something as petty as jealousy will never succeed.

Gavin Hall
Gavin Hall

The majority of them I've met have been assholes I end up hating after 5 mins of exposure to. Suppose there's some I wouldn't mind, but if experience has taught me anything it's that growing up in wealth shapes a person in a way that makes them unpleasant.

I think the successful business owners under capitalism will be the politicians/executives/directors under socialism

So same ruling class different name? Why are you such a bootlicking cuck?

When I was just starting school I got sent to a private school at the urging of my grandfather despite it being a struggle on my parents income at the time (pool construction and doctors office). Felt really out of place and fristrated, couldn't relate to any of these kids and was only there because muh catholicism. Felt much more comfortable at a shitty public elementary in a rural (soon suburbanized though) area west of Houston. It wasn't till I got to high school that I ran across upper class kids again, and they were insufferable as fuck. Girls were simultaneously Christian conservatives and major sluts while the guys never had to work after school and got gifted new cars. Fucking hated them, would rather smoke blunts with the jamals, cletuses, and carloses than deal with those boring fucks.

Nicholas Williams
Nicholas Williams

It will succeed among the stupid and intellectually lazy.

Hudson Roberts
Hudson Roberts

indeed

Jacob Phillips
Jacob Phillips

Not really, since I don`t recognize them nor their agency are human beings(thus it would be pointless to feel hatred towards them). They are just parasites in bodypolitic waiting to be destroyed.

Ayden Ross
Ayden Ross

An ideology built around concepts that leave no leeway for personal resentment will never succeed and will always suck balls

Joshua Carter
Joshua Carter

qz.com/816188/science-shows-the-richer-you-get-the-less-you-pay-attention-to-other-people/

Apparently the more affluent people are, the less able they are to detect emotions in other people, among other findings.

As if there wasn't already reason enough to not like rich people, they think of others kind of like how they think about inanimate objects.

Justin Butler
Justin Butler

So same ruling class different name?
nah, workplaces will elect people democratically to oversee operations. Ideally they'd elect the best managers. You'd have to have an incentive system to encourage that, most likely.

Asher Gutierrez
Asher Gutierrez

There is a difference between merely holding irrational grudges and using those grudges to justify taking the property of people that have worked for it away, which is what I think the poster was referring to.
How about you discard trying to assess the world through the lenses of retarded ideologies and start thinking for yourself?

Zachary Bennett
Zachary Bennett

which is what I think the poster was referring to.

Nah, that poster is probably just one of the retarded "hey everybody, let's get serious here" leftists who resent the fact that they don't have a place more highbrow than Holla Forums to voice their views so they occupy themselves complaining that we like socialism for the wrong reasons.

There's a world of difference between that and your trite line about rich people's deserved and hard-earned money that you have to be 8 to believe in.

Logan Long
Logan Long

I don't believe that every rich person has worked for their money and I don't even think they "deserve" it. That does not mean I think it is justified to take it away from them.

Life is not fair.
Some people are born beautiful, other people are born smart.
I will not endeavor taking away the beauty from the beautiful person and I will not try to take away the smarts from the smart person, nor will I try to prevent them from enriching themselves by utilizing those advantages.

By that same logic, I do not think it is just to bereave people that are born into rich families of their wealth. Somewhere down the line, one of their ancestors either got lucky or worked hard (or both) to bestow his successors with those riches.
I would never take that away from them, no matter how vile they may be. Even if they amassed their wealth by gaming the system or even breaking the law; if they got away with it, good for them.

Oliver Sullivan
Oliver Sullivan

Even if they amassed their wealth by gaming the system or even breaking the law; if they got away with it, good for them.

So…its alright to manipulate the system and even break the law to enrich oneself, but its not alright to forcibly redistribute wealth achieved in such a fashion?

Hudson White
Hudson White

If nobody can prove they did it, how could you justify taking it away from them?

Blake Reed
Blake Reed

who is this

and is it a real grill i don't want to be bamboozled again

Easton Diaz
Easton Diaz

the penis only makes it better

Noah Robinson
Noah Robinson

Because other people need it more. That was easy.

Jose Edwards
Jose Edwards

We need some feels with our reals to get the normies on board.

Ethan Evans
Ethan Evans

Are you serious?
Are you also suggesting it would be just to take away one of your kidneys and give it to a stranger because you can live with one kidney just fine?

Joshua Cooper
Joshua Cooper

tfw leftism is literally sour grapes the ideology
I know it annoys you that some people are a lot richer than you, but the proper way to deal with those feeling is to use your own talents is to make money as well. The economy is not a zero sum game, there's room for anyone smart and hardworking.

Don't be a child who screams because Timmy got more crackers because of his behavior. Instead, behave so you can get more crackers too

Justin Adams
Justin Adams

Capitalism is a pyramid, classcuck

Somebody has to be the janitor

Oliver Johnson
Oliver Johnson

The economy is not a zero sum game, there's room for anyone smart and hardworking.

In early 2005, as demand for Silicon Valley engineers began booming, Apple's Steve Jobs sealed a secret and illegal pact with Google's Eric Schmidt to artificially push their workers wages lower by agreeing not to recruit each other's employees, sharing wage scale information, and punishing violators. On February 27, 2005, Bill Campbell, a member of Apple's board of directors and senior advisor to Google, emailed Jobs to confirm that Eric Schmidt "got directly involved and firmly stopped all efforts to recruit anyone from Apple."

pando.com/2014/01/23/the-techtopus-how-silicon-valleys-most-celebrated-ceos-conspired-to-drive-down-100000-tech-engineers-wages/

It's funny that those at the top insisting that redistributing the cake is wrong have no qualms about engaging in a little redistributing themselves

Owen Baker
Owen Baker

this

Landon Diaz
Landon Diaz

you can hang with them tbqh

Samuel Cox
Samuel Cox

Not really.
At some point, some occupations die out (or become really scarce) because either nobody pays enough for them or because technology becomes so advanced that nobody has to do them anymore (or both).

Nobody is forced to become a janitor in a free society. You can always go out in the wilderness become self-sustaining if you cannot provide work that is worth more than cleaning toilets but are not content with being a janitor.
There are so many possibilities people in this thread advocating for your school of thought neglect to consider.

Unless somebody lives in a society of actual slavery, nobody has to become a janitor if they truly don't want to.

Camden Myers
Camden Myers

Would I, in your inane little analogy, happen to have hundreds if not thousands of kidneys to give while some people have none? Then yes.

Do you know what wealth redistribution is? Do you know why the owner class is not willing to let go of their hoarded wealth?

Camden Thomas
Camden Thomas

Why do you think other people are entitled to even a cent of that wealth? What did they do to deserve it?
Where does that entitlement come from?

Ian Reyes
Ian Reyes

do you not consider mugging a crime in a free society?

Zachary Flores
Zachary Flores

deserving
anything
lol better call egon and the gang

Christian Fisher
Christian Fisher

It is. What is your point?

Isaac Sullivan
Isaac Sullivan

I don't hate them. good for them I guess. communism isn't about jealousy. hopefully one day all of can live like they do, sans the emptiness and vanity that consumes their lives.

Anthony Peterson
Anthony Peterson

Why do you think other people are entitled to even a cent of that wealth? What did they do to deserve it?

What are you on about? You admitted above that in many instances the ultra-wealthy manipulated the system to achieve wealth.

Just look at . Did those Silicon Valley firms "earn" the wealth received by colluding to prevent wage competition?

Yes, it's just a dog-eat-dog world where every man gets what he deserves until the social darwinist starts getting strung up, then its all about muh ethics Y-YOU CAN'T DO THAT *gasps for air*

David Sanders
David Sanders

i mean where's the crime? he can either voluntarily give me his money or he can choose to get shot. he's perfectly free to do either

Zachary Fisher
Zachary Fisher

Why is might makes right okay if the capitalists do it, but not if the workers do?

Elijah Rivera
Elijah Rivera

Life is not fair.

Why are right-wing shut-ins always so eager to throw this piece of wisdom around like it's some Rocky Balboa shit that will make all hardships of life seem dignified in retrospective?

Life isn't fair, yes, and a major reason for that is because the way we organize our production and distribution with our level of technology is immensely retarded, not because of some immutable law of nature that says that just because we're not born 100% equal to each other we should not attempt to remedy socioeconomic inequalities. Your slippery-slope argument of "some people are tall other are short, so wealth inequality in the scale of billions is okay too!" is almost as retarded as if I were to say that some people are born sick and others healthy, so there's no point in healing the sick.

And the idea that someone's ancessor did something good so now these people deserve to be an upper caste with monopoly over the material means of government is a concept we left behind in the Enlightenment, you might want to catch up.

Joshua Moore
Joshua Moore

[Enormous dipshit voice]"buuuuhhh you dont have to work, literally everyone on the planet can just go inna woods and hunt rabbits"

Levi Rogers
Levi Rogers

meant to quote
I got mixed up because both posts were equally retarded, my bad fam

Luke Butler
Luke Butler

Why are right-wing shut-ins always so eager to throw this piece of wisdom around like it's some Rocky Balboa shit that will make all hardships of life seem dignified in retrospective?

lol, I love it

Life isn't fair! You don't deserve anything!
Okay, so we'll take back the wealth that the wealthy took from us.
You can't do that! It's not fair! They deserve all that money!

Sebastian Powell
Sebastian Powell

What makes they think that they're entitled to it?

Because of hard work? Because it's from their family? Because they've started something successful? I question the way we produce, distribute, inherit and allocate our wealth in capitalist society. We shouldn't respect their "entitlement" over vast amounts of dough that have fucked up social consequences for the rest of us.

Camden Mitchell
Camden Mitchell

99% of lefty pol are silicon valley clarpers op your in the wrong place

Parker Young
Parker Young

since when? we're 75% neet/student if anything

Henry Anderson
Henry Anderson

I have never read Ayn Rand, but I think my views are pretty closely aligned with hers.

While being mildly funny, you did not make a point.

There are two different aspects from which I approach this. The first one is, within a rule set, anything that does not break those rules or does not get detected as breaking those rules is fair game. We cannot prosecute a person that we think is very likely to have cheated without sufficient evidence.

Aside from that, I don't think the current rule sets are fair. I think very mild socialism to allow everyone basic things like a small government that makes the rules, protection by the police, schooling, and health-care, and a few other things, while still not morally justified, does more good than harm and keeps a stable society.

Fun fact: Last time I checked, I was still center-left and very much to the libertarian side.

I hope they take away your house and wealth and your kids have to live on the streets.
I don't really believe that, but how did that feel?

Why do you let envy justify letting the state take away that security from people that have worked to ensure it? Again, I am not saying everyone who has wealth worked for it or "deserves it" (whatever that may entail), but can you provide measures that would ensure only "the bad guys" lose access to their wealth and can you prove that those you deem to be "the bad guys" are actually "the bad guys"?

By the way, I'm sleepy and I halfway disavow the part where I was trying to lure you in with an emotional argument. I don't like that shit but I don't feel like rewriting it. The rest stands.

Chase Turner
Chase Turner

No, I find it difficult to hate people in general.

Oliver King
Oliver King

can you provide measures that would ensure only "the bad guys" lose access to their wealth

you realise that socialism/communism is about equality right… formerly rich people can live in the same conditions as everyone else. I fail to see how that's such an inhumane fate

Luis Gonzalez
Luis Gonzalez

We aren't trying to take what yours away from you and make you and your family hungry and homeless. That's what capitalism is.

Jordan Myers
Jordan Myers

Again, I don't think it is justified though. To me, socialism and communism appear to be the ideologies of sore losers. Don't take that as an insult if you are attached to them, just hear me out.
I think giving people equal opportunities is a fine thing. Equal rights are good. Everyone is free to play the game according to their abilities and according to he opportunities they stumble upon and grasp. Socialism and communism punish the people who play the game "too well" according to the losers, forcing them to keep pumping large amounts of their winnings into the loser's pool, while the losers stay complacent knowing they will never run out of money as long as they keep complaining about the winners.

In the next round, when we reshuffle the cards and switch up the rules (to keep on using a retarded analogy I started earlier) I don't think it is fair game to take the winnings people have amassed from earlier rounds and to drop them back into the pool.

I do think the current political system is rigged in favor of the rich in many aspects, but I also think a lot of aspects are rigged in favor of lazy people that have never even tried to play.
I think governments should be heavily streamlined and tightened up and (provable) corruption should be dealt with very harshly. Don't give money to the rich, give just enough money to the poor so they can get back on their feet.

I hope my post was coherent. It's almost time for me to lose control.

Liam Rogers
Liam Rogers

How does capitalism do that? It's literally survival of the fittest. While I don't deny that this can have grim implications if you fail to stay fit, but if you are lucky, some charity will help you.

It is still a lot better than the authoritarian alternatives where there is not even much room for the existence of charities.
In communism you are always forced to live at the same level as the lowest common denominator. In socialism, if you choose to work, you are forced to also work for the people that don't want to work.

Even then, again, you could circumvent all that and become self-sufficient by either going into the wilderness yourself or joining one of those communities (they are a lot more numerous than you may think).

Leo Moore
Leo Moore

i see a much larger picture than simply stealing from the rich and giving to the poor. capitalism is especially horrific because markets aren't actually complete and competitive. market failures are far too common with monopolies, asymmetric information, etc. and if competitive advantage worked as well as it does in theory rather than the way it pinholes and forces developing nations into relying upon one commodity that may ultimately cause them to suffer if they chose a commodity with poor growth potential

Grayson Murphy
Grayson Murphy

You realize that a lot of the problems you mention with capitalism can be ascribed to that "rigging" I have named earlier?
States keep subsidizing failing businesses by bailing them out. States keep giving money to businesses that already work perfectly fine without subsidies. States keep funding businesses that are headed by shaky people and are based on shaky ideas, either because of nepotism or in the name of progress.

I truly believe capitalism would work a lot better (and it's already working pretty well; compare current capitalist nations to socialist, communist, and other nations and see how well they are faring comparatively) if we shrink governments so they cannot meddle in them anymore.

Benjamin Gomez
Benjamin Gomez

It doesn't matter how much money they have, what matters is how they got it. Either way they're just acting in their rational self interest in accordance with their class, same as anyone else. Criticism of capitalism shouldn't be based on feels.

I read something similar about a poll taken in a random mall in the US. People with incomes ranging from 20k to 250k a year all identified as middle class.

Ryan Sullivan
Ryan Sullivan

the most successful capitalist nations are those with the largest governments mate.

Brody Morgan
Brody Morgan

I'm middle class and I'm a leftist because I have empathy.

Julian Gomez
Julian Gomez

I've had some contact with upper-class or whatever you call them kids growing up and going to school, namely people whose parents' income is anywhere around 100k/year, but not too high, not big capital multi-millionaires.

Some of them are assholes, some of them are good people, just like any other.

First of all, there really exist the party all day jetsetting and absolute dissolution guys (they're a relatively small minority, maybe they stand out because of our preconceptions). Whatever, they can do what they want, I'm not the one to moralize and envy is pretty pointless, hypocritical, self-harming and so on.

Many such rich kids are actually nicer and more well-rounded than your average gritty working-class aspiring homeowner or whatever, as they haven't felt any real opposition or dislocation negation if you will
of the groundwork underlying their lives.

Also they're usually more well read than working people for reasons including free time, curiosity, and yes, the proverbial guilt for the shitty lifestylist 'rebels'.
While most of my fellows have been vapid materialist who can't trust and support anyone, as they've been fucked by life too hard by age 20 or 25 or whatever, the safety gap of rich kids allows them a calmness that even denies condescension, at least at the first level.

For example, the only other person near me when I read the Society of the Spectacle who could talk about it was the kid of a rich as fuck doctor, and I read the entire Histoire de la Folie in a posh country house.

Bookshelves in upscale lofts or villas with more communist theory than anyone on lefty/pol/ will ever read and discussion that proves it's been read is more than common.

That's what I found the most relevant, the most striking about rich people. I don't know about the abyss of barbarity that is America and post-'communist' states and so on, but most rich people follow a moral, strict life, albeit hypocritical, they do the basic bitch charity and they listen to all voices from the safety of their money.

tl;dr: porky has read more than us and he's being haughtily nice about it, he's already voraciously devouring the past and future while nazis are crushing the present.

Leo Cox
Leo Cox

Do you think being left is a necessary condition for having empathy?
Do you think people on the right who give money to charity have empathy?

Anthony Rivera
Anthony Rivera

If the upper classes have such enlightened and educated opinions on leftism, then why is there so little money being put towards leftist politics pretty much the world over? Why are they so uninvolved?

Is it because they're acting in their own self-interest? Surely they'd be able to see that socialist politics is not to their benefit. And maybe they are just wading up to their eyeballs in cognitive dissonance all day and night(which would partly explain how neurotic they can be). Maybe they know better about what is or can be done, or at least think that they do? I wonder how many of them who get involved in activism will wind up like the myriad other special interests and lobbying firms in Washington.

Doesn't that make them worse?

Dominic Carter
Dominic Carter

Have you heard about George Soros?
Do you think leftism is a moral imperative or even the "right" opinion?

Charles Reyes
Charles Reyes

Soros
leftist
When we use "Left" on this site, it's almost always in some kind anti-capitalist context. Soros is a corporatist liberal, and the fact that he's throwing his money at Clinton as well as hundreds of other vaguely liberal projects is proof of that.

And I would say that someone who has read so much leftist literature would have found some kind of validity in it, moral or otherwise. And the fact that the opinion of such a vast array of upper class folk as to what is the 'right' thing to do stops dead at any kind of socialism is telling. The fact that Soros funds just about everything under the sun except that which endanger his finances is proof enough of the rational self interest that I referred to.

James Carter
James Carter

Soon, comrade.

Dominic Howard
Dominic Howard

care to respond to this user?

Grayson Myers
Grayson Myers

First of all I'd like to say that by 'leftist' I don't mean liberal Soros-type human rights agitation etc. , like implied. These are actually the predominant demographic in the upper class.
To clarify upper class I mean the top 10% in a country, by income or wealth. Whether it's capital or labour isn't that relevant, at least to them. Globally even middling American and French workers are in the top 10%, and that's one of the arguments of third worldists, but let's not discuss this issue right now.

If the upper classes have such enlightened and educated opinions on leftism, then why is there so little money being put towards leftist politics pretty much the world over?
They have rejected any sort of revolution, and the eurocommunism of their radical youth morphed seamlessly into social democracy. In Europe, an erudite professional is more likely to be supporting socdems, sometimes with the associated cultural spooks, than go for the right.
Right (and hard-right) are self-denying workers with false-consciousness and spooks,small businessmen and the usual fascist gutter. This is where the distinction between capital and labor comes into play, a lawyer or architect earning 170k/year is more likely to be an ex-Maoist socdem than a shop owner or contractor earning 80k/year and far to the left of many construction workers or low-wage service workers.

Why are they so uninvolved?
They're the ones being satisfied by reforms for one, and actually the apparent success of reformism, at least until 1980, can be better understood by considering my thesis that the upper class and the intelligentsia read leftist theory. Even then, there have been the examples of Che or Zhou Enlai or even Engels, where the ability to fight against the current system stemmed from their good position in it, as in their inquiries and activities not being crushed under the demand for survival, bread and so on.

Is it because they're acting in their own self-interest?
pretty much

And maybe they are just wading up to their eyeballs in cognitive dissonance all day and night(which would partly explain how neurotic they can be)
cf. muh ethical consumption and the contradictions between praxis and theory and the role of agitation and false consciousness , the 3rd world problem and so on
(Western) labour/proletarian labours under a similarly constraining edifice of failed revolutions, semantics and contradictions

Doesn't that make them worse?
Morality is a spook. Imagine how much of a spook it is if you're on the inside of its material rewards.

Jacob Brown
Jacob Brown

good post

Jaxon Baker
Jaxon Baker

I did an outdoor course with a couple other pretty wealthy kids and they'd get pissy if you didn't cook dinner quickly enough for them, many were older than me and had never even cooked for themselves. When something challenging would come up that they couldn't figure out within 15 seconds (such as tying a new knot) they'd instantly just say in a commanding way "you're way better at this, you do it" and without help would get pissy and entitled if they had to do all of the work on one particular thing. I remember one incident one of them couldn't open a can with an older type of can opener and just kept dropping the can and the opener in front of me and saying "you do it." The socdem in the group did the classic misinterpretation of socialist principles and would get pissy when people didn't do the "equal amount of work" trying to pseudo-mathmatically plan the workings of others, for example, "hey because I tied this thing could you run and grab water so that you're not doing anything" and essentially constantly acting like a martyr for the labor of the group. I got along with everybody in the group and those rich kids were my friends, but I can acknowledge that their background could certainly be grating.

Landon Watson
Landon Watson

I did an outdoor course with a couple other pretty wealthy kids and they'd get pissy if you didn't cook dinner quickly enough for them, many were older than me and had never even cooked for themselves. When something challenging would come up that they couldn't figure out within 15 seconds (such as tying a new knot) they'd instantly just say in a commanding way "you're way better at this, you do it" and without help would get pissy and entitled if they had to do all of the work on one particular thing. I remember one incident one of them couldn't open a can with an older type of can opener and just kept dropping the can and the opener in front of me and saying "you do it." The socdem in the group did the classic misinterpretation of socialist principles and would get pissy when people didn't do the "equal amount of work" trying to pseudo-mathmatically plan the workings of others, for example, "hey because I tied this thing could you run and grab water so that you're not doing anything" and essentially constantly acting like a martyr for the labor of the group. I got along with everybody in the group and those rich kids were my friends, but I can acknowledge that their background could certainly be grating.

Austin Bell
Austin Bell

THis is objectively false.
No

Isaiah Clark
Isaiah Clark

And the fact that the opinion of such a vast array of upper class folk as to what is the 'right' thing to do stops dead at any kind of socialism is telling. The fact that Soros funds just about everything under the sun except that which endanger his finances is proof enough of the rational self interest that I referred to.

This. We shouldn't need to rely on billionaires and millionaires deigning to give a fraction of their (usually ill-gotten, i.e. Soros and currency manipulation) fortunes out of some sort of noblesse oblige (or fear of mob reprisals)

Isaiah Peterson
Isaiah Peterson

t. bucko

Michael Myers
Michael Myers

Yes, and I am friends with them so that I can ruin them.

Noah Richardson
Noah Richardson

boy-girl penis is bourgeois

Camden Phillips
Camden Phillips

This thread is disappointingly civil.

Ryder Nguyen
Ryder Nguyen

you went to princeton?

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