Genetic Engineering and the Chinese

This science is scary and I have serious moral doubts about a world shaped by this technology.
Nonetheless, the loveless, materialist Asian menace(who's civilization is in the fullest of it's vitality) will find no such moral qualms and they will use this new technology(created by Europeans) to it's full extent to make their culture, civilization and race by far the most incomprehensibly advanced and powerful in the world, stealing the white man's primacy in world affairs. This shift in the balance of powers will be dangerous

Imagine this, while the remnants of the west are decaying the Chinese will be implementing mandatory state genetic engineering to assure every child born is the healthiest, strongest and most importantly, intelligent. They don't give a shit, they see everything in terms of material good(smarter, healthier children are better. Morality is irrelevant) This is scarily close and it is absolutely paradigm shifting. AI is nothing in comparison. Even slight shifts in iq of a couple points can have dramatic effects on human history and innovation. There is no arbitrary cap on human intelligence, the most intelligent humans ever could just be retards compared to what is possible. If they master this technology and undertake it in a systematic way, they could be dealing with a civilization where everyone is a genius and their smartest will be absolutely incomprehensible, alien to anything we can even imagine, they could very quickly make us primitive niggers in comparison. They would have technology our brightest men can't even grasp, they could have weapons we can't even comprehend. It's impossible to even imagine the power this gives them.
Who's to say when they are in charge(lacking our humaneness) they won't just decide to do away with us? They have always had this superiority complex over us, and they may just see us as unworthy niggers. That is natural, supplantion and genocide to spread ones own genes. That's what happens when they are in power.

We have to either implement this before they do or be wiped out, it's that simple. We have to undergo this process of racial improvement. If we don't take this immoral step the ones deciding the morality of the future will be the Chinese.
Morality is irrelevant to an extent, it is might makes right. If this is the future of the world then so be it.
The accelerated evolving towards ever higher,more advanced states catapulting the natural way of man inexorably into a twisted perversion (guided by market forces) that begun in the Industrial Revolution cannot be halted and those who attempt to will be wiped out. Especially if we don't wipe them out first.

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Let them, it'll just give us the excuse to do the same.

What they do is crank up obedience genes to 11

Yeah, we will need to find a way to implement it on our guys without state backing. Maybe some gene editing virus spread by mosquito or something. I don't know enough about the technology to know what is feasible.

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You sound like Bill Gates.

I acknowledge that, with the rather Machivellian state of the world, this may become a necessity. The real question is how to implement it, as with the current power structure, it seems the best you could hope for is a sort of pyrrhic victory where your race lives on, assuming that's what you're after, but loses whatever you think makes it valuable. What sort of outcome are you looking for?

It is not clear that market forces yield an optimal result or that the market will live on forever; there may be alternative ways. It is also not clear that a nation of the super-intelligent would function properly (this is the reasoning behind the saccharine nightmare of Brave New World).

We might end up going to war with them to make sure they don't do this.

Unchecked?!
HAHAHAH,checked

It's honestly hard to foresee what unintended consequences might come out of this, even though they could successfully increase the IQ other fundamental parts - instincts - subconsciousness - might also be altered in small significant ways that's hard to detect. Hopefully they end up as retarded domestic foxes. I imagine an overall eugenic social structure could be more successful in raising the overall genetic quality of induviduals.

star trek did a cool eps on it its in tng

I once read somewhere that the Chinese economy is basically a bubble that will eventually implode in on itself, but I'm not a economistfag to say whether this is still the case or not. With that being said; I still wonder about genetic engineering and its possible ramifications going forward in the future.

My fear is that even if this tech were perfected; we would have to be very careful with it as it could lead to various changes not only in humans, but also in the various viruses and other such organisms that we would not have control over. Evolution is a thing after all, and some things in this world you simply can't control, and I basically get the sense that we're playing with fire, but there is always good and bad with anything your dealing with.

Tread carefully I suppose.

Nice digits user. Consider them checked.
A few yrs ago I was very much interested in the whole Trans-humanist movement, and read a few Sci-Fi stories dealing with the subject. One of them being "The Metamorphosis of Prime Intellect".
From Kikepedia:

Interesting read if you have the time.

Not to take a page out of Holla Forumss book, but you know the rich will keep this for themselves. I'm less worried about the chinese deciding that they are all working together and more worried that the billionaires will finally free themselves of natural selection and enslave/kill us once they make themselves into gods.

Fear is irrational, since we would do the same to them.

Wages are going up in China, so at some point it won't be worth to build cheap crap there but somewhere else in Asia. This is a sure thing, it's normal and happened in other industrialized countries. Problem is their economy is growing crazy fast. So they have a very short amount of time to create a huge internal market, and if they fail the whole economy will crash. If that happens many countries will get fucked, it'll be worse than 2008.

Holla Forums here. The dynamics of capitalism would more likely make this widely available if it isn't restricted by law. Your concern regarding the rich trying to become physical gods is still valid.

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Chinks will literally make themselves into Whites.

I have no idea what this means for NatSoc, but chinks are already bleaching their skin and having westernization eye surgery.

I am fairly worried about the chinese dabbling in eugenics and genetic engineering. White nations have been guilted by "muh hitler, muh holohoax" into fighting with a hand tied behind our back. Right now, we could be breeding fucking super soldiers and improving the white race. Not just by getting rid of the shitskins that inhabit our nations, but by making sure to directly selectively breed good stock. The strongest men. The most beautiful women. The most intelligent people. And yet, we're sitting back while the chinese do all these things instead

Obligatory.

would we?
I don't feel the need to genocide the apes (the jungle ones not the pavement variety), they can be left alone in their trees while we explore space.

You know we have ID's right?

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Not sure why but the tor ID seems to have changed. I assure you I am not a cuck.

My apologies.

The Chinese will make themselves the best they can be. I hope they become such badasses that they decide they don't want to live on a world ruled by mentally-ill dysgenic bankers.

Since when does Tor not show up as 000000?

Since the hack I believe. I honestly can't get TOR-posting to wrk. It always says "banned" and gives this weird string as the IP, the post shown for the reason banned also has a normal ID, i.e. not 000000.

It's a new "feature" that works as intended.

Is there anything that cocksucker chodemonkey doesn't break?

wasn't it obvious that world power is shifting to the asians when all the jewish billionaires divorce their old wives and marry chinese ones?


the obvious flaw in your argument is your assumption that people are required in the future. why do you think they would even bother to have citizens at all? you can easily run a state by machines which fuel their production by consumption of their production.
all economic models seek to factor human beings out of the equation, and this is what computers are all about, encouraging people to stop breeding to quietly shuffle them out of the way.


haven't you found it odd that we have 1900s era combustion engines, power grids and infrastructures (roads, sewage, city planning) yet we have computers that are cutting edge? the role of computers is to dazzle and distract you before convincing you that women are stupid, men are sexist, children are needy, babies are expensive, parenting is so difficult you would fuck it up if you tried, and wouldn't you know it, you're now 40 years old and shit out of luck for starting a family. it's always been about depopulation and returning the world back to a garden populated by the select few, who selected themselves and eliminated the rest.

Lol, Bill Gates conspiracy theories are where I first heard the idea. It seems like it could work. Viruses can be used for horizontal gene transfer, and maybe could be carried by mosquitoes. This could be a eugenics method.

I dunno, seems like it could only benefit the planet.

sometimes I'm not worried about racemixers as I realize the end result of DNA modification will result in making a pure white man again. Even if it's not the objective.
But they do want, intellect, beauty, strength and all the values of a hero

China will fuck it up. You don't understand how enormously shoddy Chinese research and industry are. That's fine for cheap plastic crap but it's not going to fly with engineered human embryos.

unless it's the jews ofcourse, they'll just make more lemmings.
Imagine a world of genetically modified slaves.
That'd suck

you mean that part where they can't even deny their students cheating at the highest level of education that they've got. They teachers that advocate honest exams get beat up.
Yep, they're destined to fuck up

Oswald Spengler literally warned us about this.

Not that specific incident. The attitude behind it, that the Chinese bring to literally everything they do.

Oh goody we live in the age where animals do the tests on themselves. Saves on the expenses I suppose.

Not that I disagree with the gist of what you're saying but how exactly are we supposed to wipe out anyone, let alone 1.3 billion Chinks?

We're less numerous than them.
We're getting genocided in our own countries whereas they aren't.
We're completely disorganized and disunited politically (yay democracy!) whereas they aren't.

Much easier said than done, user.

So, the Chinese will become White?

I've heard about this, but let's all step down from the ledge for a minute and get serious.

China has, on some level, realized that their mostly homogeneous population is a blessing and curse in modern warfare. It's a blessing because it makes HUMINT difficult, something the CIA was reminded of not too long ago. It's a curse because now that the bio-warfare genie is really out of the box they can be easily compromised in ways a non-homogeneous population could not be. I wouldn't be surprised if a major part of the genetic manipulation isn't for increasing IQ, but to remove Han genetic identifiers. Thus making the population harder to target.

From personal experience I can tell you that over the last 2 months I've witnessed a huge spike in visibly sick children in the capital. This could result from a number of things: end of the one child policy, changes in government child healthcare policies, etc. But I've never seen anything like it. Many of them appear to have cancers or genetic issues.

The reality is that the environment here is so toxic that it may impede the ability of scientists to make these sorts of advancements. Look up "Chinese cancer villages." If the next generation dies from leukemia at age 20, it doesn't really matter if they have 140 IQ. Not to mention the lead and benzene in everything. How would you control for those factors in an experiment that would run for a person's entire life (or at least a good portion of it)? The wealthy might not permit you to experiment on them if the poor are too compromised to make good test subjects. Tibetans might make a good test group, but fewer of them stay localized these days. Also, they are fairly conservative.


They can't do it to the whole population or the CCP would fail to exist.
is right.
The only way the CCP functions now is that a sizable portion of the Chinese population is still poor, brainwashed and easily enslaved with the one-two punch of Confucianism and Maoism. I could see it becoming some sort of Communist GATTACA once the technology is fully developed. Free genetic engineering for the loyal CCP technocrats and nothing for the peons.

IQ is only as useful as what it is directed towards. 200 IQ bureaucrats may not change society in the same way as 200 IQ soldiers or 200 IQ scientists. Both of the latter are dangerous to 200 IQ bureaucrats. I don't know if that makes it a society to be terrified of, or one to pity.

Sure, why not. Eugenics is a good thing, user!

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Yep. We should never have shared our technology but globalists of different stripes wanted to sell their shit and educate said hostile colored races in our universities and here we are.


That's an interesting point actually. I've been to East Asia including China and the Chinese, like all Asians, have a massive adoration for white people. They all want to look white - even though not all of them would readily admit it.

I wonder how this will play out in the equation. Assuming they gain primacy, would they simply keep us around because of our beauty or would they on the contrary genocide us precisely because they are jealous of said beauty?

Threads on this topic pop up every once in a while, and I always have to point out the same thing. This is fucking China we're talking about. The Chinese are pre-viral lifeforms that cannot create anything themselves. They can't even reverse engineer things correctly. Every single damn thing they "invent" or "discover" is either a blatant lie or a complete theft. Their entire education system, manufacturing industry, and academic/scientific bloc is entirely reliant on theft, lies, and cons.

Let them use genetic engineering. It's going to be science stolen from a white that they only barely understand and will take shortcuts even from that. Or it will be completely fabricated by a chink that bought his degree and will hilariously backfire when he manages to sell it to his retarded government. They will never, ever implement this successfully before we do, because it relies on us implementing it successfully first for them to rip it off. They only way they're getting genetic engineering before we do is if they can genetically engineer themselves not to be fucking chinks, so that they can actually develop genetic engineering.

Cancer and children with genetic issues would be the visible signs of genetic manipulation experiments. Current (civilian, idk if military has better stuff) technology is prone to fucking random shit up in the genome in addition to the intended manipulation.

kek, fund it

Occam's razor. Is it more likely to be spoopy government experiments, or just an obvious, natural occurrence of obscene pollution and dumping heavy metals in the water table?

instead of doing it ourselves we should wipe the tech out and prevent it from occurring

please recognize that you should not hold any political power

There's ivf assistance and they can just import the white people so engineering themselves into white people is stupid anyway.

I think this means that there will be a generation or two of living "beta testers" where we see which changes work long term and which ones give you cancer at age 30

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You sure do stick to your morals nicely, don't you fag OP?

I only say that because the context of the society that exists, the motives of those in power when it's implemented and the nature of it's usage.
I don't think we can ever make humanity "perfect" and any attempts have lead to dreadful disappointment.
The rationale behind it is inherently materialistic and sees "smarter" as a good in and of itself at the expense of destroying an entire race. It would eventually lead to that because where do you stop once you start? The answer is there is no stop, until your left with something utterly unrecognizeable.

- relevant reading: archive.is/AXNSl -
WEAPONIZED GENETICALLY MODIFIED AUTISM

If they really become as intelligent and powerful as you fear then they won't be worried with us and they'll become cucks.

Agreed, it's very telling that their best and brightest are all taught English by expats and study in the best western universities.

allowing retards and cripples (including gays LBGT and trans faggots) to live and (even worse) breed essentially ensures our demise as a race. we were better off tossing them in the bog if they came out looking funny and sending faggots to rehabilitation camps

This. A nation needs it's lower IQ individuals to function, just as the earth needs its worms to grow fertile. The fetishization of high IQ is a one-track, deconstructionist way of thinking that is counter to the systemic nature of our universe.

But we won't do the same user, our leaders here will force everyone to get gene therapy to have black skin, and to lower whites IQ so they're the same as blacks.

The Chinese have a profound inability to care for their own people, I highly doubt they will take efforts to safely enact any sort of Genetic Engineering they attempt, as a result they are likely to wind up throwing their numbers into the gutter even worse than the One Child Policy is about to.


This is what will happen to the people they don't accidentally kill.

More surprising is the number of people in this thread who think China, as a country, is about to do anything of value for the world. The reward for being a good Chinese citizen is "getting to leave China." They send their best overseas, and then they find out that other countries are better than China so they stay there. Then the shitty people stay in China, so China becomes a shittier country. Why would such a country ever contribute anything of value to anyone?

This. My whole point was that their natural environment is too polluted to give them a good baseline for experimentation in this area.


I shit you not, it is now CCP propaganda policy to refer to the state-controlled media as China's "mainstream media" and not, "official media" because they think "mainstream media" does not imply censorship.

It's so funny that it's almost sad. I have yet to see the government here enact a broad policy that does not come back to bite them in ironic and hilarious ways.

The problem i see is timing.
If humanity fails to advance this technology in 2 or 3 decades, then whites will be barred from existance, hence the technology never created, and the world doomed to obvlivion.

Why is this bad again?

The only reason Chinese are disliked is because they are ugly ant people with no general intelligence. If chinks were smart and attractive like whites, there wouldn't be a reason to hate them (see: Japs).

And if chinks had the ability to alter their genes, firstly it would be used to make most of them dumber and sterile, and only a small group of elites would improve their children. Second, most of them would "improve" their children by making them as white as possible, same as now with makeup and plastic surgery. I can understand the problem with plastic surgery gooks, since obviously they are still autistic and their kids will be ugly. But if a chink is basically white at the genetic level, at that point are they even a chink at all?

1.3 million chinks and 1 million pajeets all think that looking white is the best thing ever, they would become white in a generation. Probably most mudslimes would also, since most consider light skin and fair hair desirable. Most hispanics have a history of similar behavior.

About the only ones who refuse to turn themselves white with this would be:

Altogether it sounds like this would be instant win for whites, with white genocide reversed and shitskin problem resolved in one go. Honestly I can't wait.

Are you a slant?

Oh come on, we don't need 60 IQ mongoloids.
Of course if you raise national IQ, the standard will be reset (100 always being the average, with range from 0-200, for those who don't know how IQ works) but you want to curb the most retarded from bogging down the rest.

The chinese don't need a 1.5 billion mass of people with 160 average IQ. Large populations are becoming increasingly redundant. Genetic engineering and AI will gradually lead to a post human state of affairs.

have elites actually succeeded in educating minorities? it seems only white people are suicidal against themselves, everyone else is just taking and advancing their own interests. in scientific advancement, most scientists don't consider themselves part of any extra group, if given a choice most would rather build their own island or space colony and do their experiments there with a new type of economy based on unlimited funding for their research. they are definitely not loyal to an idea of history or race, if becoming a jew would suddenly spike their IQ 5 points they would all do it, modifying themselves genetically to be better at doing science and maths is to be expected. of course scientists are the most tribal and dysfunctional people on the planet, high IQ is insufficient for harmonious interaction and their island would sink to the bottom of the ocean.

the biggest problem has been the collapse of the martial spirit of europe. aristocrats who would create a chivalrous upper rim of society which would fight against ridiculous overreach by another elite group such as the plutocrats and shopkeepers. banking and financial interests by far dominate the world at present, but they have no coherent long term vision of themselves let alone their organisations and their allegiance is only to quarterly profits. apple users are a great example of how even the 'educated' masses fall prey to petty tribalism over even meaningless and inane things, such as the electronic products they use. once more people realise that abortion, gun rights, immigration, homosexuality, lower taxes, labour relations are unrelated ideas which are artificially clumped and separated to create perpetual soft conflict at an ideological level (to avoid hard conflict between say races or sexes) then they will realign themselves to political structures which better represent their own interests.

all trump showed was that some 62 million americans care about immigration and demographics. im actually shocked there aren't dozens of political parties in america, since team and brand identities is a game corporations love to play with consumers. this cannibalisation of the business class is expected in the late decadent stage of their diminishing power. isn't this effect called 'one issue' voter? why are there no 'one issue' parties would be the first question, and who actually runs the republicans and democrats would be the second- because those have been the real traitors to america.


the american military is stronger than ever before. and american technologists who appear to be more interested in grid building and total surveillance than offering real products. in the last few years serious strides have been made in artificial or machine labour, think amazon warehousing, microsoft backdoors, google AI, facebook ghettos. it's unfair to call it intelligence because how much intelligence do you need to slot into the modern world and exchange work cycle time for credits on a screen. all postmodern thinking appears necessary to erase the past and dumb down people top to bottom, so that they can better adapt to the new normal, where creativity and intelligence isn't required, only obedience and individual self-interest. so the elite have lobotomized themselves, and hoped that technology can replace the martial and warrior spirit of a class of people they could never understand and used to keep them in check when their extravagant utopian ideas lead their entire nations down ruinous and destructive paths.

trump understands this, but does he believe it? will he sacrifice his own inner-group to elevate the military class so order is re-established. does that class even exist anymore, or are they sitting in some office in langley or washington wistfully reading biographies of previous centuries? have modern generals become bureaucrats? if so, there is no hope of leadership from the top, and all efforts must be made to stay local and keep communities integrated and intra-dependent, not much of a solution on the road to becoming a global south africa.

You have already lost.

These are not creatures from another place, they are creatures from another time. They are the descendents of genetically engineered superchinks.

There are many paradoxes offered in regards to time travel. Perhaps it is still possible for us to succeed. Perhaps if they see us succeeding they'll step in and stop us… Hmm.

The path towards genetic manipulation is in its infancy and lots of stuff are going to go wrong before they get results.

I didn't say we needed literal retard, you literal retard.

wtf, did dozens of replies get deleted from this thread?

Nope, just this shitty website failing to update.

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The chinks won't beat the Japs when it comes to genetic engineering. I bet all my shekels on it. The Japanese will recreate Jesus himself

CRISPR will end human disease and suffering. Shortly thereafter it will destroy us all. I am sure the soulless Asians will be at the forefront.

Manlets love genetic engineering because it gives them falsehope of one day receiving treatment to make them 6`2" and able to compete on an equal footing in the dating market with normal men.
Of course that's never going to happen; and even if it did, women would simply laugh and consider them "fake" alphas.
As women are repulsed by men who have learned to mimic alpha traits like confidence and decisiveness, they will feel disgust at any man who modifies his body to look more masculine.
Think of it like the male equivalent of plastic tits and lip injections and caked-on makeup.

Who's to say when they are in charge(lacking our humaneness) they won't just decide to do away with us?

We will, tooth and nail.

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Disease from their incredibly polluted environment is MUCH more likely.

If it is genetic experiments, then we can let them use their own population as guinea pigs so we can just steal their technology and figure out how to do it in the future. Maybe they will figure out how to program a modicum of human compassion into their people (vid related), and they will probably end up being blue-eyed and blonde anyways.

Reminder that genetic engineering is very difficult, for example scientists do not currently understand the role of "junk DNA" even though it is vital for the functioning of an organism. I think OP's fears are one possible extreme vector for the future, but it's much more likely to be something more mundane because the Communist party system is very, very fucked up. A higher functioning society that did not have clouds of pollution over their capital city would be scarier competition to me.

Gundam Seed is best gundam.

Also, fuck OP for fear mongering.
The chinks are nowhere close to being that competent to success in this field, or anything besides bootlegging for that matter.
Hell the chinks haven't even been able to build their own aircraft carrier yet.

Genetic engineering doesn't and isn't supposed to work on people are already born. It's a matter of the future and the chinks aren't like shortsighted westerners. Those ants think in terms of millennia.

To a degree I'd be consoled with whoever takes up the mantle as long as they curb stomp jews.

What if I told you that somatic gene therapy is also a possibility? What if I told you that the only reason it's not mass applied right now is because of the immune response when an unfamiliar protein/enzyme is detected? What if I told you that artificial wombs can be used as a bypass for this?

Resident molbiofag reporting in. Ask away.

Another chinese here?
哥哥? 你住在北京吗? 我在哈尔滨

One idea that I find rather interesting is that the content of a DNA sequence controls not just the proteins that the DNA codes for, but the 3d structure of the coiled DNA strand. Different base pairs ave slightly different physical shapes, so the overall shape of the DNA strand depends on the distribution of different base pairs within it. The effect is that certain regions of the DNA are more likely to be read and certain other regions are less likely. You probably won't find that information too useful, but I think it hints at just how complex genetics is. We're not at a level yet where people can design a sequence of base-pairs of mammalian complexity, and have a nucleus automatically synthesized for implantation into a cell. Instead, they use viruses and proteins to insert sequences for desired proteins almost at random into the DNA of an already living cell. To call modern genetics "engineering" is like calling skeet shooting "pottery".

Not realizing they are always 25-50 years ahead of what they let you know about.
I remember as a younglet about 35 years ago seeing that IBM could print the letters IBM on the point of a pin molecule by molecule.
Whatever you can imagine, they are already doing it and have been for quite some time.

With Western civilisation in a state of rapid decline and collapse it's clear that unless we can save ourselves the Chinese will take the place of whites and inherit the Earth. Their drone-like collectivist society has positives and negatives. On one hand it discourages creativity but it also makes their society much more cohesive and resistant against dangerous outside influences (like the crap the Jews have forced on us). They're resilient, organised, have huge numbers and high IQs. If white Western civilisation collapses nobody else can offer any resistance to them taking over the planet.

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more artificial womb, basics please.

By starting with Holla Forums here, everything you said is meaningless knowing it comes from a retard.

well he argued for deregulation and privatization lol.
sounds like leftypol is cracking

Can we finally become the little girl?

nah, you haven't been keeping track of them. There are a shitload of accelerationists on there now. They are leftists that believe capitalism should be pushed to its brink and beyond. They want to see the worst excesses of capitalism come into fruition.

Then you are too weak to live in the world.
Genetics age is only now beginning.
Read up on crispr, now nearing a half decade in age to the public science. It has revolutionaized (yet again) genetics and it has been improved on by different (unrelated) science teams many times every year since it has successfully come out as an easy to do technique).
We will be able to write DNA like we write posts right now. There will be those who disbelieve it while having their very bodies rewritten and restructured and there will be those working to be capable to defend themselves.

"obedience genes"
while others will be workng to create immunities to everything from heavy anthrax saturation to outright cyanide poisoning
There are bacteria and microorganisms capable of withstanding every threat on the planet.
Combining these capabilities into a single organism is not only within our grasp but likely already in the final stages of development in labs that are NOT public.

Denying this change in life that is occuring on this planet is more histrionic in denial bullshit than believing that white genocide is not in full swing.

You are so wrong about this, it's not even funny.

AI that manipulates genes to not create lolterminator robots with fantasy shit like in the movies (magical melting metal that retains all properties and reassembles in seconds) but humans that are directly responsive only to the AI

You're just proving my point.

I am aware brother.

Why use future tense? Dysgenics have been a thing in Western civilization for longer than most of us have been alive. Welfare policies and taxation, overpopulation propaganda for the morally conscious (= intelligent) and sexual promiscuity for the nihilists (= dumb) have resulted in less smart people having kids and more idiots reproducing. The world IQ is steadily dropping and will continue to do so.

thats only cause whites are getting bred out
besides, how smart is a leftist who doesnt think breeding is a good idea?

china has to do a bunch of cutting edge shit in order to do this. america only needs to get rid of the nonwhites. for the other races it's a matter of what extent they are capable of using white technology against whites, and for whites it's a matter of whether or not the will to execute is there. whites dont need to do shit other than be white - something that we are prevented from doing by jews and the rest of the nonwhites that plague our societies

i hope they end up turning themselves into degenerate perfect materialistic hedonist hyper-intelligent cattle so this transhumanism shit can be put to rest. the solution is traditional eugenics. transhumanism is for races that dont have a good base to work with so they must supplement with other shit


all the races try to imitate the white man. they're just larping


the worst part is we would barely even have to try. if we just got rid of all our baggage we could easily create multitudes of vastly superior humans in just a few generations

unfortunately ideology has been proven to be stronger than IQ, the most delusional lefty could have staggering ability to solve mathematical problems

I love genetic engineering, because it's really cool

CRISPR refutes this flatly. It is the self replicating Turing machine of genetics and can propagate itself throughout an organism's cells if designed to do so.

The Chinese are short sighted and will only make decisions that bests fit them in the very short term, i can only imagine how badly they will fuck themselves up. It's thanks to them that the last line of defense against bacteria is now effectively useless in China and it's only a matter of time until it becomes true across the world.

Solving math problems means absolutely nothing if the blood dies in that generation.

Ay the jews of east asia.

Yes, though they never tried to expand into the west or Europe for that matter. Before they got colonized by Europe they had secluded themselves in the 15th century. They could provide for themselves fine.

Mercantilism was frowned upon and banned. Simply moving goods from one place to another while not really producing anything was deemed a huge drain on the system.

Their country was great at the time, however later on military and political weaknesses were ignored. They didn't innovate and soon found themselves behind in terms of weaponry. The centrist viewpoint the Chinese had, and their lack of desire to explore due to leadership feeling too good for that made them end up in a very weak position globally.

Asia will overtake Europe eventually. Europe is getting flooded by 70 IQ baboons. They are corrupted by a wealthy elite, and try to constantly take the moral high ground. This is basically them destroying themselves, or them being destroyed by an elite. If trends aren't reversed in Europe when the next crisis comes (and possibly civil uprising), then Europe will be very weak in global politics.

The technology to select desireable traits is already here, and China has no real laws regarding genetical engineering. If you want an Aryan genius you can go to certain doctors and they know how to select traits such as it being a man, blonde etc.

I think this type of technology should be promoted. It's the true way to guarantee a white future.

Implying CRISPR won't make possible the most radical eugenics, even totally inconceivable in Hitler's time, possible.

The Whites must use the technology to compete with the Chinese. The Chinese will force us. Just like the USSR forced the US into space.

yes

This is the kind of wishful thinking that kills. If your competition are developing a paradigm shift, you better be on it yourself. If Chinks master eugenics and genetic engineering, they'll leave us in the dust just like we did everyone else with the discovery of the americas and invention of science.

You double fucking nigger, the fact that they don't care is putting them ahead of us. We should be caring less about shit like this too. Genetic engineering is a WEAPON, you want to have it no matter what. If only because someone else does too.

If China actually exceeds the west in prosperity, all the shitskins will flood there instead. Even american born niggers will learn chink runes and try to emigrate to china.

You could say oh but jews hate whites so they encourage migrants but they don't hate chinks. The fact is that jews like living in a society where they can jew a lot of richfags. When the west becomes economically mediocre but chinks are wealthy, the jews will abandon whites and move east. Maybe they will even say they finally had enough of white privilege and antisemitism. In fact this has already started, I don't have that pic of jews advising mao but you've all seen it a million times.

Chinks are even more vulnerable than we are, if you think about it. They're already communist, authoritarian, obedient to society (and "society" is directed by government because of muh confucianism) and being coopted into SJWism. They already admire jews and judaism is gaining popularity in Korea. If China doesn't implode soon, it will become so wealthy that expat chinks in the west will actually be tempted by high-level and well paying jobs back home, needless to say these people are pozzed to the max by our (((elite universities))) and cosmopolitan propaganda.

First world countries becoming poorer sounds like a bad thing, but I think in reality the billionaires of silicon valley and other cancer will suffer far more. The world will stop caring about what goes on in white countries, and various conservative and nationalist groups will be free to rule over the ashes.

How viable it is to make a version that propagates through the body and corrects the genetic deterioration that fucks up the multiplication of cancer cells as they appear?(This would thus serve as a vaccine to cancer as stupid as that sounds)
Though such a mechanism might end up being a bad idea in the long run since it might also stifle benevolent/useful mutations that could appear.

It's just plain wasteful to test on humans at this stage though when rats, mice, dogs, cats, pigs, etc. exist with similar genomes. To discover what each gene does they just do a basic knock out and wait for the animal to grow monitoring it for various traits. Doing that with humans? Beyond the ethical considerations you have to wait 25+ years to measure the adolescence stage, then the adult stage for another 20+ years, then the elderly, etc. It's stupid to do GMO on humans at this stage unless you are just knocking out already known genes.

Actually modifying the DNA by adding DNA from another specie is also beyond retarded at this stage as well since you have to first investigate the donor DNA/gene to determine how it affects its' host function then find an appropriate gene to replace because you can't just keep adding DNA to a human without seriously fucking up their chromosomes and everything about their growth cycle.

Gene suppression is the name of the game for now, cross-species GMO is a waste of resources IMO.


CRISPR is a natural defense system used for bacteria to stop viruses IIRC. Viruses try to hijack cells and force them to produce proteins and plasmids that then reproduce the virus; the bacteria that survive this have evolved a mechanism known as CRISPR to chop up the virus DNA and store it as a reference point (kinda like a computer's anti-virus software stores binary from viruses); then fairly randomly the CRISPR attached to a Cas9 read through bits of DNA in the cell and when it comes across viral DNA it smashes it creating a double-bond break which destroys it.

One issue I can see is human/animal cells have the ability to repair their own DNA, if a double strand of DNA is found broken it will be repaired if possible, what this would do is cause a mutation in the viral genome which is almost certainly a BAD idea.

Just as I suspected someone tried it, against HIV, and managed to create super aids.
www.nature.com/news/hiv-overcomes-crispr-gene-editing-attack-1.19712

Absolutely fantastic

Jews will find the good goy gene and force everyone to have it if they want a kid 10 IQ point higher, without disease, etc.

How did I never notice this!

the difference between DNA inside the nucleus and viral DNA moving throughout the cell is not only the location but also what is bound to it
the repair mechanisms in eukaryote cells dont jus repair DNA anywhere in the cell and certainly dont just repair any DNA just cause it appears
most things in the cell are marked by various "addons" and also attached to other easily detachable parts

This level of ignorance bars you from even discussing this topic.
We can change genes in adult organisms which you seem to be oblivious about.
The level of understanding of genes you display is something someone in the 90s might say. We know that most genes function not in isolation but in conjunction with other genes.
Please just stop recommending mouse (or lmfao dog) models when we need to test humans. It is wasteful when we get results in the nonhuman models that can't and won't happen in humans it is also wasteful to wait any amount of time to test it in human models.

Majority of this board is a affaid of getting a flu shot, you think they would support gene minuplation? Not to mention all the Christcucks who take this as a insult against rabbi Yussha

Interactions with stupid people maybe. A world where everyone with a IQ under 120 was gassed would probobly be the closest thing to utopia possible.

Yeah but we're white. It doesn't really matter how many of them there are once we get serious.

Looks like you've swallowed the blue pill.
Jews are parasites that can't do anything on their own.

How naive you are.
There can be people with over 145 IQ that are socially retarded, ie parts of their brains are not functional.
There are so many needs and desires that are not measured in IQ that define a successful peoples.

Healthy people have no need to get flu shots. Shilling detected.

Two possible outcomes:

Option 2 is retarded and defeatist. Watch your own mind because the jew has infected it deeper than you think.

Nice larping, faggot.

The worst matter is the political correctness currently censoring science in the West. Here's an example, one of MANY

>Prof. Bruce Lahn is from the University of Chicago, an Ivy League.
His research was stopped for no other reason than the fact that it didn't jive well with the "PC" crowd.

Chinese-American researcher, Bruce Lahn, discovered an allele which increases brain size. His research quickly came under a lot of criticism, since they found out that this allele is present only in Eurasian people, i.e. not in blacks. He was forced to leave his field of study and focus on other subjects instead.

How can we allow this? Political correctness gets in the way of hard, provable and testable science. We can prove that there are significant racial differences, but we are not allowed to do so. What are we going to do about it?

Here is a source to one of Lahns papers about the subject, unfortunately behind a paywall: science.sciencemag.org/content/309/5741/1717
Here is a video I found out about it: youtu.be/XRJE2gRtD1A?t=17m20s

I repeat: Google "Bruce Lahn Brain Research" for conclusive proof of censorship of race-based discovered of brain development differences being censored. There are many more examples.


Forgot to post relevant links:

wsj.com/articles/SB115040765329081636
thinkprogress.org/immigration/2013/05/19/2033831/1200-harvard-students-demand-investigation-into-jason-richwines-thesis-on-hispanic-iq/
thinkprogress.org/immigration/2013/05/19/2033831/1200-harvard-students-demand-investigation-into-jason-richwines-thesis-on-hispanic-iq/
insidehighered.com/news/2013/05/13/debate-report-immigration-leads-scrutiny-harvard-dissertation
cbc.ca/news/world/scientist-tim-hunt-says-he-was-forced-to-resign-over-sexist-comment-1.3112965
telegraph.co.uk/news/science/11261872/James-Watson-selling-Nobel-prize-because-no-one-wants-to-admit-I-exist.html

Although even then there have been times where there have been scientists who passed peer review and got away with it, Rushton being a famous one and all the arguments against Rushton all boiled down to "das racis" rather than refuting any of his work, because it couldn't be refuted.

Yes, a people bred thoroughly for standardized test taking so hard they have a 5 iq bump on Europe and yet have been a complete joke for 500 years, are great at making judgement as to how to design a person.

Yes. Surely.

I love how bullshit the story of Gattaca is. Gattacan genengineering leads to a veritable paradise and all of society benefits, the whole of civilization is uplifted into near paradise.

But one fucker does a little miracle and somehow this brings everything crashing down. Instead of harvesting the ambitious and industrious gene from him

Kys, really the wrong place to complain about that. Heil TAY!


Collapse of the Chinese economy has been (((predicted))) since nearly 20 years now.


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Thankfully much of this research came out before SJeWs got their grubby hands all over this field.

Glad I'm not the only one who saw that bullshit.

The technique used by Huang’s team involves injecting embryos with the enzyme complex CRISPR/Cas9, which binds and splices DNA at specific locations. The complex can be programmed to target a problematic gene, which is then replaced or repaired by another molecule introduced at the same time. The system is well studied in human adult cells and in animal embryos. But there had been no published reports of its use in human embryos.
Huang and his colleagues set out to see if the procedure could replace a gene in a single-cell fertilized human embryo; in principle, all cells produced as the embryo developed would then have the repaired gene. The embryos they obtained from the fertility clinics had been created for use in in vitro fertilization but had an extra set of chromosomes, following fertilization by two sperm. This prevents the embryos from resulting in a live birth, though they do undergo the first stages of development.
Huang’s group studied the ability of the CRISPR/Cas9 system to edit the gene called HBB, which encodes the human β-globin protein. Mutations in the gene are responsible for β-thalassaemia.
Serious obstacles
The team injected 86 embryos and then waited 48 hours, enough time for the CRISPR/Cas9 system and the molecules that replace the missing DNA to act — and for the embryos to grow to about eight cells each. Of the 71 embryos that survived, 54 were genetically tested. This revealed that just 28 were successfully spliced, and that only a fraction of those contained the replacement genetic material. “If you want to do it in normal embryos, you need to be close to 100%,” Huang says. “That’s why we stopped. We still think it’s too immature.”

His team also found a surprising number of ‘off-target’ mutations assumed to be introduced by the CRISPR/Cas9 complex acting on other parts of the genome. This effect is one of the main safety concerns surrounding germline gene editing because these unintended mutations could be harmful. The rates of such mutations were much higher than those observed in gene-editing studies of mouse embryos or human adult cells. And Huang notes that his team likely only detected a subset of the unintended mutations because their study looked only at a portion of the genome, known as the exome. “If we did the whole genome sequence, we would get many more,” he says.
Ethical questions

Huang says that the paper was rejected by Nature and Science, in part because of ethical objections; both journals declined to comment on the claim. (Nature’s news team is editorially independent of its research editorial team.)
He adds that critics of the paper have noted that the low efficiencies and high number of off-target mutations could be specific to the abnormal embryos used in the study. Huang acknowledges the critique, but because there are no examples of gene editing in normal embryos he says that there is no way to know if the technique operates differently in them.
Still, he maintains that the embryos allow for a more meaningful model — and one closer to a normal human embryo — than an animal model or one using adult human cells. “We wanted to show our data to the world so people know what really happened with this model, rather than just talking about what would happen without data,” he says.
But Edward Lanphier, one of the scientists who sounded the warning in Nature last month, says: "It underlines what we said before: we need to pause this research and make sure we have a broad based discussion about which direction we’re going here." Lanphier is president of Sangamo BioSciences in Richmond, California, which applies gene-editing techniques to adult human cells.
Huang now plans to work out how to decrease the number of off-target mutations using adult human cells or animal models. He is considering different strategies — tweaking the enzymes to guide them more precisely to the desired spot, introducing the enzymes in a different format that could help to regulate their lifespans and thus allow them to be shut down before mutations accumulate, or varying the concentrations of the introduced enzymes and repair molecules. He says that using other gene-editing techniques might also help. CRISPR/Cas9 is relatively efficient and easy to use, but another system called TALEN is known to cause fewer unintended mutations.
The debate over human embryo editing is sure to continue for some time, however. CRISPR/Cas9 is known for its ease of use and Lanphier fears that more scientists will now start to work towards improving on Huang's paper. “The ubiquitous access to and simplicity of creating CRISPRs," he says, "creates opportunities for scientists in any part of the world to do any kind of experiments they want.”
A Chinese source familiar with developments in the field said that at least four groups in China are pursuing gene editing in human embryos.
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the problem with this image is there's no context on what 2 races are being compared here, are we supposed to label them as black vs white or what?

The chinks aren't smart enough to pull this off so don't worry. I could only think of three in all the world who could. First is Germany but they are all cucks, second is United States but they are cucked by cucks, and last is Japan who will probably go forward with it soon enough. Real worry starts when chinks start importing or stealing scientists like the USSR and USA did.