War on Wikileaks

Ron Paul: Assange is a hero, Trump an hypocrite

There is a word for this sudden about-face on Wikileaks and the transparency it provides us into the operations of the prominent and powerful: hypocrisy.

The Trump Administration’s declaration of war on whistleblowers and Wikileaks is one of the greatest disappointments in these first 100 days. Donald Trump rode into the White House with promises that he would “drain the swamp,” meaning that he would overturn the apple carts of Washington’s vested interests. By unleashing those same vested interests on those who hold them in check – the whistleblowers and those who publish their revelations – he has turned his back on those who elected him.

Julian Assange, along with the whistleblowers who reveal to us the evil that is being done in our name, are heroes. They deserve our respect and admiration, not a prison cell. If we allow this president to declare war on those who tell the truth, we have only ourselves to blame.

ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2017/april/24/candidate-trump-i-love-wikileaks-president-trump-arrest-assange/

I agree with the message but Ron Paul isn't relevant; he cucks out for his son.

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But sessions never did clarify if he was going for Assange. He said he was going to crack down on leakers (as is required), but Assange is merely a third party, not the hacker/leaker himself. He's just a whistle-blowing journalist.

And that should not be illegal. If you have problems with wikileaks leaks, stop the leaks from getting to wikileaks.
If a person absolutely must leak it, he will take extreme precautions and risks like snowden.

How could they be so naive? Trump is still a piece of shit for not simply letting Wikileaks be though. If Trump goes after Assange he is clearly preparing to dirty himself and wants to cover his ass so he doesn't end up like Bush or Obama.

No I think assange expected this.
But remember, the media are still putting words in sessions and Trump's mouths. If you've watched the interviews, you would have seen how they carefully placed their words.

You probably still cry about muh empty airfield too.

>people shills actually believe what the media says

Idiot, CIA director said Wikileaks is a hostile intelligence service. The context is not the charges against Assange, Trump has no say in this matter, but he did agree with sessions charges. The problem is that the White House agreed to the CIA director going on the attack against Wikileaks and keep up the whole "MUH RUSSIA" narrative.

We do need to scrutinise it, but also be aware of how he words his statements on Assange.
Assange needs to assume danger at this point just to be safe.

He should not get complacent. Preferably he needs leaks on Trump that suggests his intentions for
Assange. If it's safe, pretend they don't exist.

I don't know if Assange can lie about that though. He seems to push out all leaks.

Sessions said ALL people in a direct question about Assange. Jesus christ you chesscucks are desperate.

Butthurt.

MUH EMPTY AIRFIELD

While they are correct in saying they are "hostile" (i.e. will leak anything from their intelligence), I am unsure whether he is a potential proxy for Russian intelligence to leak info for propaganda purposes.

Frankly I like a neutral point for leaks, perhaps they need to leak info on China and Russia.
Perhaps wikileaks is a cure to stop all three from fucking each other over.

Source.

Shit deflection.

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Fuck off already you sycophant.

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Top kek, pure buttflustration


Passover 2017 is a week that will live in infamy.

You can both go to hell.

You don't get it. When the MSM itself is hostile to your government, you need to pull all of the tricks, all the stops.
And the fact that so many unusual facts emerged from the matter means we can no longer assume what the media tells us.

I asked for that interview where sessions expressly says "we will crack down on Assange."
From what I've seen, he said he'll crack down on leaks.
But Assange is in a peculiar position - he's not the hacker or the immediate leaker, he's a journalist that receives the leaks from those leakers.

I mean what is Trump supposed to do? Of course he has to take the position in public that Assange will be arrested. Assange has been publishing stolen top secret information that undermines the government that Trump is the head of. Did you expect him to come out and be like "yeah it's cool bro"? Of course not. Ron Paul can stick it up his ass with this "whistleblowers" talk. SOME of what wikileaks has published is whistleblower-tier but a shit ton of it is highly sensitive to national security.

That being said Trump knows that Assange is popular with his base and that taking out Assange would be bad publicity plus someone else would just step in to publish the leaks. Trump and his staff will say a bunch of harsh words but nothing will ever happen.

MUH EMPTY AIRFIELD MUH EMPTY AIRFIELD THE PAVEMENT'S FEELINGS WERE HURT REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Trump has ethics, user.

Are you not interested in the fact that nothing happened afterward?
Is that not peculiar?


He could point out that the immediate hackers and leakers need to be addressed and that Assange is not that.
If they didn't have assange they'd just find another way to leak the information.

And Trump damn well knows that Assange is critical to his support base. Assange is like a joker that tells little secrets when the king is overstepping his boundaries or is to overtly adverse to the opinions of the people.

Trump needs sessions. He's already lost men on his side, particularly flynn.

When will Assange leak info on Russia?

One issue is how he will translate it.

Trump must also beat back the muh wikileaks muh russia handed the election to Trump narrative. Like I said he isn't going to actually do anything but he needs to create distance between himself and wikileaks. Assange is doing the ethical thing, nation states are under no similar ethics rules and put their own or (((own))) interest before ethics.

If you really want to see Assange released then we would need a massive public campaign from his base to pardon Assange. That would require time over at the_donald so……I'm out.

the_donald has been run by SRS since last summer.
All of their mods got purged and replaced by cuckservatives and liberals.

What gets me is that Podesta's leaks were a fucking gmail account.
Not exactly "super top secret" intelligence.
Furthermore there was national interest given that Clinton was using a private server against regulations. Yet everyone just attacked the windmill crusader (it was no mere windmill).

Every since the election the establishment has begun to try and control social forums more.
They realized TV was useless, social media was the new way.

Literally watch the video where sessions was speaking. How fucking retarded are you that you're trying to LARP that sessions never said he was going after assange when you havent even watched the fucking video. You chesscucks are completely fucking delusional and are inventing your own reality in your head

His Son Took money from Soros.

His son would have never bombed Assad. Say what you want about the Paul's in regards to immigration but they are wise to the ways of the jew in regards to foreign policy and banking.

Fucking kikes, niggers & dykes.

I want Assad to win, and I of course dont want israel to win. But more than anything I want America to win and I could give a shit less about Trump bombing an empty airfield to make the point that AMERICA IS FUCKING BACK BABBY!

It didn't impress the Chinese, the Russians nor any other country for that matter since the whole thing was a total embarrassment from a technical/military point of view. Not to mention the Russia narrative is far from gone and the media will still cover the investigations. Don't worry, I'm sure it impressed Americans with a short attention span like yourself. What about that chocolate cake line, that was great right?

It's okay user, I know you can't help the fact you were born fucked up.

That's your problem, not his.

Soros funded Trump Tower and Trump helped funded one of his Change.org knockoffs

All the greatest legions of Rome are worthless in the hands of men who cannot measure up to their predecessors

Trump did Assad a favor blowing up the dirt around that airbase. He bought Assad some time.

Yea because he is a fucking pussy
I love Ron Paul and everything but you have to admit his kin appear incredibly spineless compared to god emperor trump

Except the Russians and Syrians changing air defense tactics and painting aircraft overflying Syria at all times

you are an idiot if you think sctaching an airfield hurt syria. it actually helped them and hurt israel. russia has an excuse to deliver more anti air weapons. FYI israel sends rockets into syria all the damn time. not to mention it bought time and made sure no one else in the western world would actually retaliate and farm syria after the false flag

if you're too retarded to understand the 4d chess then just learn to have faith in the god emperor. not to mention i'm not the first person to say these things even in this thread

You're baiting, right?

Time to get jumped by ISIS immediately afterwards if I remember correctly. Maybe he was forced to do it for reasons X Y and Z, but to call it good for Syria is foolish. I believe in the Syria general thread (or in one of them) they also mentioned that this led to a change in tactics, i.e. Assad can't move forward along a certain route now (on this, I am uncertain).

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planes were literally flying from the airfield that was struck within half a day. you're shilling is pretty weak

Look, at the end of the day we have lists of events, determine if they're overall good or bad is where the issues arrive. The facts are: the strike was on false pretense, ISIS did jump them immediately afterwards, yes the base was operational the next day, some people did die, some carriers were damaged. What you make of the given facts is up to you, but stating facts is not shilling, so kys.

I voted for Trump but I honestly think that the people who are still 100% loyal to him think he is playing 1000d chess or are shills for Zionism.

LOOK AT ALL THESE FUCKING FACTS
shut the fuck up ya faggot shill. it's even worse when the brainwashed don't even know they are shills. an hero you gutless waste of space

It shows an utter lack of integrity and honor. Assange and Wikileaks played a huge role in Trump's election, and then he just throws them under the bus? Sure, he cannot refuse the charge of people, but he sure as fuck can show respect where it's due for those that assisted him and not willy-nilly dismiss them as if they're nothing. He could still speak his mind and give a pro-Assange opinion on the matter.

Here is an example of how nu-Holla Forums works:

nu-Holla Forums response: SHILL SHILL SHILL SHILL SHILL SHILL JUST EMBRACE THE GOY EMPORER!!!!@@!@

After you not-an-argument fag. At least I am willing to state what I am certain of and uncertain of were as you merely sling insults and blind faith in your belief as to what happened/why it happened/the effects of what happened.

problem is the radar track showed the plane flying south of the village outside the SP-24's bomb sight computer range. No proper bombing vector could be made unless the plane flew outside of a normal bombing vector (Plane is basically drifting sideways inflight)from the flight path provided by NATOs E-3 AWACS.
So not a argument.

It wasn't empty, you mongs. At least nine were killed (and 4 children) according to the Syrian government, and I saw a report from the Russians expressing upwards of 15.

http:// www.newsweek.com/syria-attack-children-civilian-killed-580555

It's so god damn pathetic. I thought Holla Forums still had actual white men with principles left in them, some of the last of the last, and all I'm seeing is mostly white niggers.

At this point I think most Trump supporters are either deluded millennials or actual counter intel.

the jew cries out in pain as he strikes you

You're focusing entirely on the company trump keeps rather than trump himself.
Now while it would be best for every kike to be gassed, then burned or lamped, a global holocaust is unrealistic and would be extremely difficult to achieve, ignoring the fact that normalfags wouldn't support it. it would be more realistic to send them all back to israel either forcibly, or by manipulating them into being so zionist they go back out of pride and then putting israel on a very very tight leash. restricting military power, cutting funding, etc

Yes, I think it's probably close to 50/50 on that front. The astroturfing of Holla Forums and its mods by Kushner's Project Alamo worked tremendously.

So, instead of focusing on everything Trump has ever done or said I should rather focus on your imaginary perception of him?

It's a fact that Russia sent many more anti missile defense to Syria. Before, it would look be because they defending Syria from Israel, but defending Syria from #NOTMYPRESIDENTDRUMPF lets them send way more with much less criticism and no way anyone can cry antisemitism.
And so under the guise of protecting from US they are much more effectively protecting from Israel
This is scratching the surface, but if you want facts strictly speaking that is factual.


Consider the statements Trump has made and the alternative you have provided. Which option allows Trump to have the most integrity? He's the POTUS and national security comes first.


Compared to the 100 civilians that die in a single strike in Iraq, and the 50 syrian soldiers that died in an (((accidental))) strike in dier el zor…
When Obama's accidental strike killes 10 times more than Trumps purposeful strike, it's pretty obvious what the intentions were. If the US really wanted to harm Syria they would have done things much differently


I do not know what this means. Can you elaborate?

i'm just saying your argument isn't against him it's against people near him.

No, it's an argument against Trump himself. His positions are his own. His marrying his children off to jews was his own doing, and his support for Israel and international banking cartels are of his own volition.

If he supports Israel so much why would he tell them to stop the settlements and say that it 'does not contribute to peace'
A zionist would believe that settlements always contribute to peace

You are grasping at straws. Trump is completely allied with zionists, he continues to send them military aid, his children are married to them, and he opposes the governments of Syria and Iran. He wants to create greater Israel at all costs.

I think it is you who are grasping at straws with your combination of sweeping generalizations, extrapolation to the degree of hyperbole and general strawman arguements.

I would attempt to engage in your frivulous accusations but not only would it take an essay to invalidate the regugitated bullshit but it's also entirely off topic. read the OP and stop responding with shit

No actual examples given, or argument made


Did you mean regurgitated? If you can't debunk what I'm saying its because its been blatantly obvious since day one for anyone with a functioning fucking brain. Honestly the youtube comment section is more red pilled than Holla Forums at this point.

keep sliding shlomo

Nice argument dude! Go back to sucking your kike presidents dick.

WEW

Fuck off lolbergtardian shills. This is a national socialist board.

I'm not trying to argue you fuckwit. If you want to pursue this discussion then choose a relevant thread. This is the wrong thread and it's disrespectful to bump a thread with offtopic shit. at least sage, do you even know what the fucking means?

link another thread and we can go there. or talk about wikileaks. or shut the fuck up. I will not join your efforts in sliding this thread, whether you intend to or not that's what you are doing

Ron Paul is nonstop concern trolling for his manlet son

This fucking Jewgold bug knows damn well that Trump can't stick up for Assange or be friendly with Putin/Assad while they're investigating him for conspiracy and wanting to impeach. They're all over taking wikileaks right now and if he doesn't offer "Presidental Protection!" which doesn't exist, doesn't mean he's pushing for wikileaks to go down. It's just feeding the media what they want to hear while Trump's team works on big shit like budgets and making Paul Ryan look bad.

Trump just says shit, and all you faggots freak out like Rumpelstiltskin hearing his own name.

Yeah, calling out ZOG BOT Trump is "disrespectful" Just how triggered are you?
Yeah, because I didn't come here from r/thedonald this election cycle kiddo!
Believe whatever the hell you want. You're no different than a Bush supporter circa 2004 with your pro-israel civic nationalism, hell Clinton wasn't all that much different. THATS THE POINT

I love Marxist and nationalists, it's almost as though they are being an idol. Just like the people calling them out on it trying to support a free market and supporting open borders at the same time.

thanks for confirming that you are completely retarded. you can say that I am delusional in supporting Trump because I think he is against Israel but if you think I support Israel, either you are a shill or you don't know how to read

What are we on, a fucking forum?
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Look, this isn't a forum where you can make infinity-max threads for every little thing or have direct messaging. This is an imageboard, you have discussions anywhere. Of course, it's up to moderation to mitigate how derailed a thread gets, but random discussion is the nature of this forum of communication (tailoring itself to the anonymous aspect).
How the fuck is he "sliding" it when he is the main one bumping it? To speak about "do you know what sliding means", it certainly seems you don't.

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Which world do you live in? Lolibergs love open borders and love brown skinned people entering their country.

I didn't say make a new thread. I said find a thread that is relevant and take the discussion there. you also should learn to read and to not liberally make assumptions unless you want to look like an ass
sliding is bumping irrelevant threads to slide important threads. offtopic posting makes a thread irrelevant. lurk moar before you talk like you know shit

>>>/reddit/
>>>/cuckchan/

Bumping is technically irrelevant with respect to sliding because nothing actually falls off the board once the thread is created. Although it does, indeed, slide down the catalog. Nevertheless, because we keep so many pages here it's largely irrelevant.
This is where we disagree. A slight derailment in a thread does not destroy the rest of the thread, at minimum what already existed. Therefore, the thread itself is still worth bumping so that new people can continue to discuss it.
I will admit my phrasing was vague such that it would seem I'm implying you stated to make a new thread. However, what I was getting at is, since it's a derailment, there would be no other thread in which to place it, hence he would have to make a new thread. But that would do much more damage in terms of destroying threads than just posting it here.

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I would agree that there is no permanent damage, but I think it has the same practical effect. Looking at the catalog, I simply don't have time to look past the first few rows. Likewise, when I see a really long thread I look at the last dozen posts to see if I can join the conversation. Anyone coming into this thread would not see any conversation they can join. They of course have the option of starting a new conversation in response to the OP, and you can say that off topic bumping can be helpful in that regard but I think we should be striving to always have an engaging conversation that is relevant to the OP.
I wish I was a hardcore poster and lurker but I don't have the time these days. Considering the perspective of the casual poster can reveal any practical consequences for your hypothetical curiosity
We can agree to disagree on what constitutes a true derailment and slight derailment, but I think we can agree that no derailment is the best (unless there is some worthy humour to be had)
Sometimes I feel like getting salty but instead of taking the black pill or something, I'd rather just become cynical and shit post about the failure of others and their lack of effort in achieving and maintaining an ideal
Getting autistic about the nuances of imageboard etiquette is always intesesting

why do you support Israel?

when did I say I support them? what are you talking about

Ron should have been prez

RON WAS THE PREZ WE NEEDED.
TRUMP WAS THE PREZ WE DESERVE.
But seriously Trump has way more balls. Rand Paul cucked immediately when under pressure (of becoming irrelevant) and it was only his selling out that let him stay in the Republican Nationals. Trump wasn't joking when he pointed out that Rand shouldn't be on that stage, literally had no support in the polls
That fillibuster to kill the Patriot Act and make the NSA illegal for a single day was historic for sure though. Seemed like a publicity stunt but maybe he does have balls.

Sorry for wanting an honest leader who is a man and says what he means and his actions follow through. Trump was voted for because people thought he wouldn't play by the old snake-like games.


He could have taken the moral route, that yes indeed he wants to protect our national security from leaks, but also wants to tackle all the corruption said leaks revealed. DRAIN THE SWAMP; CORRUPT HILLARY, remember?


Maybe so, but I was just replying to this retarded response going around here that no causalities occurred after the airbase strike. Also, it's been just as bad as Obama since Trump took office:


https:// www.darkmoon.me/2017/trump-has-killed-beautiful-babies-in-four-countries/

I voted for Trump.
I even created the 'Urgent: Motivate White People to Register to Vote' threads, and was behind the initiative to get volunteers to drive Amish people to the polls.
I'm also not a fan of Rand Paul.
However, Ron Paul, as usual, is right on the mark here.
WHY CAN'T TRUMP STICK UP FOR ASSANGE AND BE FRIENDLY WITH ASSAD/PUTIN?
Why can't he call out the (((Globalists))) by name?
Why can't Trump seize power, institute Martial Law, end the 'freedom of the (((press)))', and become the dictator that they all (((feared)))?
He's 70 years old; he's a billionaire; he's lived a good life.
Why can't he GROW A PAIR???
Right now I'm watching him talk about how 'those who deny the Holocaust are accomplices to the most terrible crime ever perpetrated against humanity…'
WHAT THE HELL IS THERE TO RECOMMEND ABOUT THIS?
If I compare him to Hillary Clinton, I'd almost be saying:
"At this point, what difference does it make?"
The coward dies a thousand deaths…

This.

The reporter dropped Assange's name in a question about leakers. Sessions side stepped by repeating current administration policy. Go be a faggot somewhere else.

People do not come here to hold your hand.

Heil'd!

Ron is right. Thanks to wikileaks we didn't just get Trump elected, we discovered pizzagate pedos and democrat election rigging.

Trump needs to pardon him and Snowden. Arresting them is close to being treason considering how much they helped America and revealed America's enemies nature.

It's his son you pleb.

Yeah believe the CIA helping to traffick children fucking kike. Kys

Uh yeah and where has that solved anything with ties to high level characters?

Based Ron Paul
New Syria Sanctions; Gas Attack Claims Still Unproven

Because life isn't you pathetic video game reality

Reminder

Ron Paul is an Internationalist who wants open borders.

Removing welfare and programs that incentivize immigration as a primary means of preventing immigrants does not mean he is a internationalist who supports globalism and open borders.

Why don't you post a picture of Trump standing at that shitty Jew-wall?

So destroy the social support structure or your country and hope Mexico doesn't want to walk over and get a job?

That's Lolibertan logic. Astrology for men.

of your country

Removing welfare doesn't mean removing the national guard or organized militias, and if the US military was reduced the surplus gear would be sold to US civilians and militias under a libertarian system. Also welfare as the "social support structure or your country" is what has lead to America becoming increasingly non-white in the first place.

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Dont forget this one.

Ron Paul is an advisor or sage archetype, not a leader. It's foolish to ignore him, but also foolish to try to put him in charge.

Honestly Paul fags and lolbertarians are former leftist that embraced this dumb ass ideology because they want to smoke weed and fuck mongrel, mystery meat, women.

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Trump's maneuvering the public, and the shills are trying to counter-maneuver. Consent of normalfaggots is necessary because otherwise they'll sabotage everything at every opportunity.

bump

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How DARE Trump remain impartial and allow his attorney general to decide who to prosecute!

Ron needs to be put in a retirement home.

Gave yourself away, Ira. Only Jews neglect to pronounce the H.

checked and heiled

WE NEED TO BE TRUMP'S BIGGEST CRITICS. Prophet Paul is right on this one.

Pot, kettle, nigger.


Fixed that for you.

What in the fuck?

Yeah what the shit.
Some retard samefagging this ENTIRE fucking thread?

Board was down for a couple of hours. Something got fucked up

I was wondering if the "And we're back!" message at the top had anything to do with it.

bumo

I really hope Trump prosecutes Ron Paul for his stupid gold shilling so that he shuts the fuck up and stays out of politics. The Trump train cannot be stopped.

Heil Hitler is telling us something? We live in the matrix?

He has openly disagreed with his son before, he doesn't go out of his way to attack him. Is that really cucking?

Well yeah, The CIA director is going to have to publicly come out and blast wikileaks. Do you know how many low-mid leve, l butt-flustered, basic bitch normie, CIA nerds mad at wikileaks are? "Gahd dermmitt! We spent 10 years developing those hacker tools! Someone has to shut that fucking prick up…gahd dermitt!" So, the director has to represent "the men and womyn" of the CIA. Otherwise, he'd have a mutiny. Publicly, I don't think it's a big deal if Trump or Sessions scolds Assange. Let's see what actual effort they make in silencing him.

BUMPING TWO WEEK OLD TOPICS WILL DEFINITELY DISTRACT FROM US BEING KIKES THOUGH

No, it's not cucking. It's a father-son relationship that can get extremely complicated in the world of politics. Especially RP being such a principled ideologue. Only an autistic 19 year old would claim it's "cucking".

Fuck you for necrobumping you fucking KIKE.

kek, just going to bump because of you

I hate this world for what it is tbh.

There 'will 'be a reckoning.

Check your time stamp. 22s…double douces just like the post you were replying too. Mind blowing stuff…truly.