Continuation from the last thread seeing that a lot of nice stuff came from it and there were some Anons still kicking around.
Animation project that is not going to happen Part 2
Last thread- >>889900
Well the webm there was made sooooo project successful?
I completely forgot I made that thread. Nice to see some people enjoyed it at least.
Are these old or new?
Well if its not going to be animated maybe you can do it as a web comic?
I was willing to do the animation portion, but we didn't get any writers, voice actors, or composers so that got shot down pretty quick. It was just me and a few other decent drawfags working on it. There just isn't enough steam or talent for a full on project at the moment, and I fear that if there was we'd have a hard time all getting along (see Katawa Shoujo).
again, no writers or people to lighten the work load. We've got some talented artists on here, but tackling a webcomic is still pretty damn hard. Don't want to dissuade, but we need a game plan I think before just rushing into a project. We need realistic goals and a schedule.
Its simple fam, baby steps. Start with storyboards, then try making a simplistic comic, then think about an animation project at some point.
In the end it will be only a couple of anons that do the heavy lifting and a million idea guys, and thats fine, because thats how community projects work.
Okay someone come up with an idea for story/episode/issue #1 then. Would it be an origin story or just right into it kind of thing?
I would have it as an introductory thing to set up the world. So the cop goes into the slum to hunt down a drug dealer and sees the cat vigilante and disagrees with him about his vigilantism but respects him hunting down criminals. Then they get overrun by the drug dealers goons and have to fight their way out. I dunno if you want it action packed but thats just an idea.
Someone should check the previous thread if one was posted.
How about something like:
coon bust some criminal
glad to finally get this scum off the street
later word comes down from the chief, let him go, he's got connections and my hands are tied by the mayor
coon is angry
time passes, APB out for arrest of criminal cat, highly dangerous
coon listens as he continues his investigation off the books into the scum that got off
coon is determined to get him on something that sticks and no "connections" can get him off
trail leads coon to somewhere dangerous (warehouse/docks/under bridge/usual crime hotspot)
coon is by himself with no backup
scum gets the jump on coon
scum surrounds him with a couple henchmen
"is this the end for our hero???"
BANG! one of the henchman falls
"Let's scram! He's got backup"
Coon looks up to a rooftop to reveal the silouhette of vigilante cat with a rifle
scum gang escape by vehicle so coon chases after the cat
his raccoon climbing abilities help him make up ground
cat ambushes coon
"you really need to stop falling into traps so easily" says cat
coon narrows his eyes, "there is an APB out for your arrest. Extremely dangerous.
A cold-blooded killer."
cat smirks a little looking down the barrel of his rifle pointed at coon. "i can't say they're wrong."
coon looks down the eye of the barrel then back to cat. "they must not be entirely right either. Otherwise, I wouldn't have survived that attack. We wouldn't be having this talk."
cat gives a slight nod. "don't follow me. i won't hesitate to make what they say about me come true."
coon nods silently and watches as cat disappears into the night
coon goes home visibly exhausted
removes his uniform to discover a strange usb in his pocket
"did that cat slip this on me when he jumped me?"
coon examines the contents, opens up a screencapped news article of the mayor shaking hands with one of the local crime bosses years before the election
coon opens another showing the mayor naming the new chief of police
"something stinks in this city and it isn't the garbage"
I'm detecting some similarities here.
One user tried, made a draw shitty storyboard with random picture something about the first day on the job for Coon and how he got to hate corrupted cops or something didnt save itand was too shitty to save itsorry user
I still think you should mix in some human characters. At the moment the creative market is saturated with these animal only worlds.
Sounds great. Don't know if you want the show action oriented or comedic but still that sounds badass.
Well it does… I don't feel it's something that warrants a series though, it feels more like a film.
I'm just picking up the threads. Didn't some guy try to pull off some animal comics in the past? With a hookbill detective or something?
So do you want comedy, drama, or action orientation? A mix? Should it be grim dark, realistic, or Saturday morning cartoon?
I'm up for scribbling some stuff out and doing a test animation or something but I would like a direction.
Also is everyone okay with ATHF/inferno cop levels of animation?
That's what stupid kids get for just standing around.
Also is everyone okay with ATHF/inferno cop levels of animation?
Honestly, I think low effort is preferable at this stage.
So do you want comedy, drama, or action orientation? A mix?
Well what do you think? It all depends on what sort of content ultimately gets created. I don't think it is wise to pick and force anons to fit their ideas within that mold. Instead, if it seems like a comedy to you, write up some joke or funny scenarios. Think a cartoon style would work? Create some concept art. Ideally, as long as the project continues to be worked on, anons will just pick & choose & remix everything contributed into a cohesive whole.
I am somewhat of an aspiring writer, but I feel awkward writing an independent project for other people. Maybe if we have a scene-by-scene and the characters' personalities sorted out. Or multiple writers.
Also the tone, etc.
Tone should be dark humor. If we lose the humor in that they are walking, talking animals with guns we'll end up with something like that edgy furry comic.
So i should stop drawing them fucking?
they may be wearing rainbow shirts
but they are not a gays
Could be individual shorts that heavily focus on a particular genre. Kind of like how Heavy Metal was.
I do agree that there's a lot of that content aimed at kids, but there's not a lot of animal centric ones aimed at adults. There's Blacksad and Watership Down, but that's all I know.
GOP secretly meeting with Reptilians
I KNEW IT
Fish aren't reptiles.
I just put an elephant because they like to get drunk. death of an author and all that.
weird fish prostitute
Tell me more.
That's what they want you to think.
Could be HP Lovecraft Innsmouth porn.
I'll animate all of this, for money.
Because you know what they say; if you do something well, never do it for free.
If paying to make it done was the point, the thread would be about crowd funding the thing.
This is about the process of making it.
I think comedy would be a way to go. We could take advantage that the characters are animals and use it as part of their behavior, instead of just going for the furfag conventions of THIS CAT IS SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT BLACK PEOPLE that make so poorly written.
Tropes dont make bad writing, bad implementation of the tropes makes bad writing.
Rabbit cholos make sense because buckteeth lend to lisping, but that doesnt mean that every animal has to be race-coded or vice versa. You can for example take giraffes and make them stand in for niggers, that doesnt mean every single giraffe has to be a stand in for niggers.
Planning to do one a day, anyone can give suggestions for scenes/characters they want.
Really got to improve as an artist and this is a good motivator to keep at it.
maybe throwing race was a bad move, let me explain:
The main character is a raccoon. What do we know about raccoons: They are known to have great memory, great sense of touch, their predators are owls and coyotes, and they are omnivorous, so they eat anything. Also, according to kikepedia, they are associated with trickster spirit in some Native American tribes.
So, if I were to make a character, I would make him kind of a callous jokester who is always hungry, who may not be well liked, but is a competent detective with great sense of perception. We could make things truly cartoony and have him live in an actual trashcan, or have his colleagues avoid him because of his hygiene, in an Al Bundy-ish kind of way.
So yeah, the focus would be less of a person looking like an animal and more like an animal somewhat acting like a human. And I still stand by having a police squad-styled serial.
Can we throw in really weird but true animals facts?
That would be a heavy case of trying too hard to base the character on its appearance instead of the other way around. Aside from that the character archetypes are pretty much set already, racoon fits a bad tempered cop because the all the visual cues are appropriate, roughened up cat fits the stoic vigilante. Making the coon a "callous jokester" just burdens the character with the dreamworks desease of bad characterization.
implying you do things well
making him funny won't make him less bad tempered. Hell, doesn't even need to be a clown, some deadpan humor could do miracles. There is a way to make a serious setting funny with sheer defiance of expectations. Also, cats are not stoic, they are cowards and most likely to be roughed up due to the continuous ass-kicking from some stronger cat.
I'm good at being myself, wheres my money?
making a character funny =/= making the character a jokester
you dont need to make the character literally spiderman in order to construct humorous situations arount it
you conflate character traits and writing style, stop doing that
also with the visual design actual real animal traits are only relevant as far as their mythology goes, one can use obscure animal facts as a source of a punchline, but cramming them into the character willy nilly does fuckall but dilute the archetype
user your shiftkey is broken.
Working on them side characters based on previously posted sketches. Professor gave me a green light and I decided to study Dave Rapoza's style for this.
Holy crap that quality
That's good stuff, user. I especially like the shading.
why do people think forcing memes is ever a good idea/
So in the last thread i heard some of you say to convert vietnam vet into gulf war vet based on previous sketch. So I did.
Shit man that looks badass.
Those massive eyes
That hockey stick
I"M GONNA HIT YOU
Great design, got a good laugh out of me. The others are really nice too.