G.I. Joe

Nathaniel Peterson
Nathaniel Peterson

Are the cartoons or comics any good or is it mostly nostalgia?

Cooper Murphy
Cooper Murphy

I grew up in a remote part of the United States in the 1980s where we didn't have any independent TV stations that carried shit like the GI Joe or Transformers cartoons, just the three major broadcasters (ABC, NBC, and CBS) and any cartoons they had were on Saturday mornings.

Anyway 20 years later and I'm in the Marines and my sergeant brought in a DVD box set and put them on and him and a bunch of other guys in my shop were having their nostalgia moment and talking about buying the toys and all that other shit while this show was going on. This is the first time I've ever seen this cartoon in my life and it was the most retarded fucking thing I've ever seen.

A large part of my reaction was that I actually did read some of the Marvel comics adaptation when I was a kid and had thought the comic was a straight adaptation of the show and that I was missing something really entertaining.

Easton Ortiz
Easton Ortiz

Speaking of, anyone know here I can find a decent upload of Resolute?

Hunter Lopez
Hunter Lopez

So the comics are decent, the 80's cartoon is meh at best. Know anything about Renegades?

Ethan Green
Ethan Green

I have only seen the movie where they go to some weird valley filled with biotech and Cobra Commander turns into a snake. The main bad guy has a snake's body in place of legs, if I remember right. It was really weird.

Jace Cook
Jace Cook

Renegades was OK. It suffers a bit from harmless laser stuff.

Aaron Parker
Aaron Parker

The 80s were a weird time man.

Hunter Lopez
Hunter Lopez

and yet, incredibly prescient

sorry for embed. All my gi joe webms are on my currently dead tower

Easton James
Easton James

Isn't that just a Smurfs parody?

Justin Watson
Justin Watson

The Smurfs serve as the base layer for the parody, but I don't recall the Smurfs ever being about the choice between conformity or being outcast. Regardless of which cartoon they were parodying visually, they were satirizing the message and attitude more than any given show

Noah Cruz
Noah Cruz

So what was Cobra's political ideology? Did they even have one that was explained?

Asher Ramirez
Asher Ramirez

Don't worry I have plenty of GI Joe webms.

Their ideology is the weak should fear the strong.

Nathan Cooper
Nathan Cooper

So what was Cobra's political ideology?

Nathan Howard
Nathan Howard

I thank you for your service

Benjamin Cook
Benjamin Cook

thanks for fighting for Israel
You filthy bootlicker.

Ryder Brooks
Ryder Brooks

Remember when they revealed Cobra was an actual fucking reptilian working for lizard people to take over the world?

Leo Walker
Leo Walker

Its Hasbros old flag ship property that struggles to make a comeback in recent times while shit like Transformers atleast has been a couple good strides since the 90s GI Joe has been terrible

Sigma 6 was their "Transformers Armada chance" and Renegades actually alright.

Levi Green
Levi Green

The movie truly was a strange one.

Robert Powell
Robert Powell

Which one was the animated movie where Cobra Commander is actually a badass and doesn't take shit? Where he announces to his men, 'There will be no more of your crap! NONE OF IT!'

Ryder Green
Ryder Green

Resolute

Kevin Garcia
Kevin Garcia

shame it never seemed to get a HQ release.

Parker Rivera
Parker Rivera

The cartoon was fairly comparable to the other toy line cartoons. It has some good moments, but it's definitely a product of its time. For nostalgia and camp give it a watch, but it's not like it's any kind of forgotten masterpiece.

The original Marvel comics are the high mark. Anything G.I. Joe, start with these. Larry Hama was great at blending disparate aspects of genres; military, ninjas, light science fiction and just regular old comic book cliches, into a cohesive whole that kind of puts to shame other creators who think they deserve a pat on the back for mixing just two genres. Not to say these comics are perfect, there's some stupid shit that had to be shoehorned in there for the toyline, like Battleforce 2000, but they are really good.

The new G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero comics from IDW… ehhh. I like them but it probably is from nostalgia more than anything else. Larry Hama is the writer, and they are a continuation of the Marvel run, but for a current series it feels dated. He's an old man now, so it's understandable. And pic related is the regular artist, S.L. Gallant. Considering the talentless tumblristas Marvel uses now I guess you could say that puts him at above average for CURRENT YEAR +2, but really, everything he does is serviceable, at best. This pic is his best piece, and that's completely from just how busy it is. Look at all those machine guns and rockets going off. And then there's Spirit shooting a bow and arrow. Somewhere off panel is a Cobra Viper who's dying like an extra in an old Western while the rest of his comrades are also dying, but in less embarrassing ways.

So, yeah, if you really love the orginal Joe comics this series is worth it, but otherwise, maybe not.

Sitterson's G.I. Joe is current Marvel tier shit, and while I don't expect much from IDW, I'd of hoped they'd at least manage better than that.

Everything else is… okay, I guess? Picked up a few of the Devil's Due books and watched some of the other cartoons, but nothing grabbed me enough to stick with them. The movies kinda sucked but them comparing them to Michael Bay's Transformers and Ninja Turtles movies, G.I. Joe probably got off light.

Dylan King
Dylan King

G.I. Joe probably got off light
making Duke a wigger
coal burner Scarlett
somehow managing to make Snake Eyes gay and lame
that horrid acting
that horrid Baroness subplot
power suits

To be honest, I'd say it was one of the worst Hasbro licensed live action movies, if not THE worst.

Jaxson Cruz
Jaxson Cruz

Thanks for reminding me how horrible all of that actually was. I apparently blocked half of it out.

Maybe I forgive them too much for teasing us with a Brendon Fraiser as Flint, but I'd still count them as more watchable than Bayformers and TMNT. The second one could of actually been good G.I. Joe movie if they had a better than Sci Fi Channel original movie budget and didn't bother with Bruce Willis guest starring as… Joe.

Bentley Collins
Bentley Collins

Also I'd count Byung-hun Lee as Storm Shadow as a plus. There's a lot wrong with those two movies, but they're slightly less garbage than everything else we've gotten.

Adam Brown
Adam Brown

somehow managing to make Snake Eyes gay and lame

Id make this a plus the Snake Eyes circle jerk has been going on since the 80s and has only gotten worse the more ninja like he became

Jace Allen
Jace Allen

ywn help cobra commander make earth great again

Cameron Collins
Cameron Collins

second webm
anyone got that pic about a guy pretending to be a retard for 7 years?

Samuel Roberts
Samuel Roberts

What a real shame. Cobra Commander was truly a man ahead of his time. He used CGI to change the ending to King Kong, before CGI was a thing. He also used fossils to clone dinosaurs long before Jurassic Park. He also tried to save the world from fiat currency.

Mason Sanders
Mason Sanders

BUY ALL OUR PLAYSETS AND TOYS!

Christian Collins
Christian Collins

well, they were cool toys

Angel Gutierrez
Angel Gutierrez

stupid cartoony shit ported to milsim

I never knew I wanted this.

the QUALITY when the dinosaurs break into the dining room

Never gets old.

Xavier Martinez
Xavier Martinez

I like how Bludd just walks off with no arm like that. No crying or yelling just bitter and walking. Also I liked the Baroness in this one minus the energy gloves she had.

Didn't one of the early IDW runs have Chuck Dixon as the writer and Cobra being this ancient organization that plans world domination and have Krake as Cobra Commander conquering a South East Asian country?

Hudson Bennett
Hudson Bennett

I wish there were more of these old Brothers Grinn cartoons, but 90% of them died with Megatopia and They Might Be Giant Robots. Even the Internet Archive doesn't have them.

Juan Wilson
Juan Wilson

Cobra workers are unionized (or at least Crimson Guard)
Have access to dining hall, gym, R&R and Cobra dancers stage entertainment
Medical plan
Resurrects dinosaurs from fossils
So why are they the bad guys again? Can you really blame anyone seeking employment with them?

That changing tone of conversion in the second webm with the Crimsom Guard is so damn ridiculous it just becomes funny

Utterly bizarre looking fictional military vehicle, but having a high viewpoint when going through shallow water does make it's design have surprisingly practical use.

Gavin Long
Gavin Long

Cobra Commander was a true hero. Also I imagine he would have been a great shitposter. The way he dicked with Shipwreck was masterful.

Justin Price
Justin Price

I pretty much only had Cobra toys, except for Snake Eyes because "muh ninjas". I never got the Cobra Hammerhead ;_;

Austin Sanders
Austin Sanders

PORKCHOP SANDWICHES!!!

Kevin James
Kevin James

Its weird how in terms of movies and cartoon adaptations GI Joe got screwed over the hardest compared to Transformers and MLP.

Evan Smith
Evan Smith

It's more like it was a crap cartoon property that had a writer on the comic book who took his job really seriously and put 110% into it, and boosted its rep way above what the source material would naturally have achieved on its own. Larry Hama should get a fricken' cheque every time a GI Joe doll sells.

Dominic Reyes
Dominic Reyes

Polly is best Joe.

Colton Peterson
Colton Peterson

Look up Cobra Commander's origin story
He was a fucking used car salesman
He started COBRA with money had made from several pyramid schemes because his wife left him and his brother died in a drunk driving accident
It went from a Fight Club-style anarchist group to a full blown terrorist army with tanks and fighter jets because he just found that many people who wanted to blow shit up

What the fuck?

Brayden Martinez
Brayden Martinez

Even still
ninjas are cool
silent ninjas are cooler
the take away should be that they should have had an easy job making his parts cool, yet they fucked it up and even managed to make his simple design horrible.
Weirder still, the director was the guy behind the Mummy and its sequel.
It is definitely decent. I'm only a couple issues in and I can't really see what it does particularly well but I want to keep reading.

William Cook
William Cook

Gets kicked out of the Navy during WWII for incompetence and malingering
Becomes crappy pulp sci-fi author
Practices occult rites with leading rocket scientist
develops psychological psuedoscience called Dianetics
converts said psuedoscience into religion to evade the FDA
uses religion to build a paramilitary structure with a fleet and flagship
focuses on 'clearing the planet' (world domination

tbh Cobra Commander's comic origins are far more believable

his cartoon origins are also far more grounded in reality than Scientology's

Logan Foster
Logan Foster

hey wait a minute, something doesn't sound right there…

Leo Green
Leo Green

Hama definitely put more work into it than anyone would have expected. Kind of like Bill Mantlo on Rom, Spaceknight, he just wouldn't write down.

Landon Allen
Landon Allen

Honestly I like that about him. He came from nothing and built himself up into one of the most powerful men in the world.

Adrian Perez
Adrian Perez

So they're ancaps or what?

David Perez
David Perez

I read somwhere that when Hama created Cobra Commander he was inspired by some conservative pundit in the 70's who loved the sound of his own voice. That and he originally imagined the commander to sound like Orson Welles.

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