Screaming and Yelling: the Show

Logan Garcia
Logan Garcia

this is one of the few cartoons that pulled that off

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Grim_Adventures_of_Billy_%26_Mandy_episodes
Camden Lewis
Camden Lewis

Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy desperately wanted to be this show.

Christopher Lewis
Christopher Lewis

Not just because of the VA?

Connor Lopez
Connor Lopez

ll, it was one of the shows that at the time tried to be scary and gross and succeeded, so no problems with that. It's right there with anything of the time.
Billy and Mandy came first, though, isn't it?

Sebastian Bailey
Sebastian Bailey

Billy and Mandy came first, though, isn't it?
"Grim and Evil" came first, but Billy and Mandy as a stand-alone show came after Zim, and the longer Zim ran, the more Billy and Mandy's humor changed to become more obnoxious and loud.

Luis Cruz
Luis Cruz

Fairly Odd Parents started at the same time as Invader Zim
It's still running to this day

Thomas Bennett
Thomas Bennett

And…grim?

Ian Ramirez
Ian Ramirez

Billy and Mandy's humor changed to become more obnoxious and loud.
I think that had more to do with flanderization than a desire to emulate Zim

Asher Harris
Asher Harris

aren't they still making ZIM comics?
what are those like?

Liam Morales
Liam Morales

They're hit and miss.

Aaron Ortiz
Aaron Ortiz

mfw Fairly Oddparents basically killed Invader Zim because guess where all the ratings went towards

Gavin Gomez
Gavin Gomez

IZ was great, too bad about the "fanbase" it gathered. but if you don't take the retards that surrounded it into consideration, the show itself was pretty funny.

Lucas Reed
Lucas Reed

"Dib's Wonderful Life of Doom" was a masterpiece.

Lucas Sanchez
Lucas Sanchez

Anything more known about the movie? Besides it exists.

Brandon Long
Brandon Long

Billy and Mandy Big Boogey Adventure was a good final episode of the show. It is a shame they continued like 2 more seasons after it.

Samuel Richardson
Samuel Richardson

B&MBBA aired halfway through the last season though

Aiden Reyes
Aiden Reyes

Wasn't there a whole special about jeff the spider and shit a year after? I thought that was part of the final season

Wyatt Ross
Wyatt Ross

I thought shit like Dark Harvest and a crackdown on violent overtones due to 9/11 was what killed Invader Zim.

Dominic Collins
Dominic Collins

It was Bloody Gir.

Jaxson Williams
Jaxson Williams

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Grim_Adventures_of_Billy_%26_Mandy_episodes
season 6, the last season, premiered in October 2006. Big Boogey Adventure came out in March 2007. Wrath of the Spider Queen was in July. The series ended in November.

Eli Taylor
Eli Taylor

Ed Edd n Eddy from like season 3/4

Ed just yelled stupid shit and destroyed stuff
Edd was flanderized into spouting long words and nagging
Eddy screaming at the others or jewing out

Carson Taylor
Carson Taylor

I remember when both came out in early 2001

I remember liking the zim pilot but afterwards realized how shit the main series was.

fairly oddparents had more than 2 or 3 good episodes.

Chase Moore
Chase Moore

Right, so I've heard a lot of people really like this show. What about it is so good?

Austin Morris
Austin Morris

the atmosphere, the art style, the music, the dark tone, some of the humor when it's not simply GIR being "so randumb"

Tyler Rogers
Tyler Rogers

A few things:
The artstyle is completely unique. I've never seen another show construct characters like this show did and it worked.
The humor is as dark as you can get on Nick, or completely nuts and silly.
The tone is utterly cynical, which is worlds away from other Nick shows at the time.
Every shot looks great, in a dirty indie comic book kind of way.

The fact that the fairy show premiered the same day as Zim and is SILL GOING makes me a little relieved the show got cancelled before it jumped the shark. Which based on the leaked scripts it may have. Skoodge moving into Zim's place and Minimoose are two indications of that.

Chase Richardson
Chase Richardson

Maxwell Atoms did a special called Underfist starring Jeff, Skarr, Hoss and Irwin that could have led to a spin-off series but didn't.

Landon Taylor
Landon Taylor

To be fair, underfist was shit. The drawing style felt weird compared to Billy and Mandy itself, it tried too hard, like later appearances of Hector Con Carne, where the brain and the bear just looked weird. I guess once they dropped the more simple style, they fucked up.
The fact that the fairy show premiered the same day as Zim and is SILL GOING
ell, to be fair, through the thread people insist Fairly Odd Parents continue to this day, when they had a 1 year break. That was enough to fuck up everything since the changed the whole team. not like the latest seasons weren't running out of idea, though.
Man, can't believe both series premiered the same day.

Isaac Reyes
Isaac Reyes

If IZ is screaming and yelling, could Daggett (same VA) from The Angry Beavers be considered Spoot-ing and Dam-ing?

Hudson Lopez
Hudson Lopez

minimoose was great though

he should have been there from the beginning

Jace Harris
Jace Harris

"Does Zim need two sidekicks?"

Jordan Campbell
Jordan Campbell

I see. Thanks.

Jaxson Rodriguez
Jaxson Rodriguez

Isn't that how all fandoms work.

Noah Gutierrez
Noah Gutierrez

oh fuck, this show is way more annoying in english i've only ever seen the latin american version

Blake Moore
Blake Moore

"let's take all the comic relief characters and make an entire show about them! The kids will love it!"
another terrible idea courtesy of Stu Snyder

Gavin Wood
Gavin Wood

Oh wow, how did I ever like Gir as a kid.

Jack Long
Jack Long

He's got his moments, but they depend on him actually interacting with other characters instead of screeching like a retard. Battle of the Planets is the one I think he's the best in, but that's also a 10/10 episode overall.

Dylan Ortiz
Dylan Ortiz

Does anyone want me to dump the episodes?

Aaron Reed
Aaron Reed

Same, tbh fam
I always found Gir annoying and although I found him cool in some episodes it made me mad that 80% of the times Zim fails his plans because of him. As a kid I always wondered why the fuck he didn't just replace the damn thing with a competent one, although I think he did in one episode.
Go ahead, please dump the best ones first.

Benjamin Torres
Benjamin Torres

Jhonen Vasquez always intended that Gir be hated

Connor Diaz
Connor Diaz

Because you're stupid

Connor Hall
Connor Hall

Gir was deliberately written to be as insufferable and annoying as possible. Partly as a parody of typical "mascot" bullshit, and partly to antagonize what he though would be his audience.
Naturally, his audience of teenagers, who lack standards and sense, ended up loving him.

Congratulations on improving as a person.

Xavier White
Xavier White

Fuck you, The Big Picture Show was top notch.

Aiden Flores
Aiden Flores

Jhonen Vasquez hates Gir, all his other characters, all his cartoons and comics, all his fans, and himself.

Cooper Cox
Cooper Cox

Which is why he agreed to do the revivals?

Easton Cooper
Easton Cooper

Daddy's gotta eat.

Carson Nelson
Carson Nelson

well, given his work so far, I wouldn't blame him. His 2 biggest works , IZ and JTHM, created or helped foster either complete edgelords, lolsorandumb teens or some inbetween of those 2. JTHM even has Jhonen fighting against his fans at some point because , in his eyes, the people who sent him letters were hillbilles, self-centered asses and insufferable goths. The only other time I've seen anyone shit on their fans like that was with DSP.

Joshua Flores
Joshua Flores

How about Ian Jones-Quartey and John Campbell?

James Edwards
James Edwards

You got a point there. But my point remains. Jhonen created not one , but 2 IPs that are to him what Creep is to Tom Yorke. And I've never seen Jhonen draw anything different from what you see in either of those 2, so I assume he _can't_ do something radically different to distance himself from those IPs. I can understand self-loathing under those conditions.

Grayson Baker
Grayson Baker

I read that it was because the producers found out about JTHM.(wikipedia)

Joshua Green
Joshua Green

First time hearing these theories got a link explaining either?

Andrew Brooks
Andrew Brooks

Invader Zim Tier List
Two part episodes highlighted, with no particular order wthin each tier.

God Tier
Battle of the Planets
Dib's Wonderful Life of Doom
Dark Harvest
Bad, Bad Rubber Piggy

Very Good Tier
Parent Teacher Night
Germs
Rise of the Zitboy
Bolognius Maximus
Halloween Spectacular of Spooky Doom
Walk for Your Lives
Backseat Drivers from Beyond the Stars
The Girl who Cried Gnome
The Frycook What Came from All That Space
''The Most Horrible X-Mas Ever

Good Tier
The Nightmare Begins
Bestest Friends
The Wettening
Planet Jackers
Invasion of the Idiot Dog Brain
Hamstergeddon
Bloaty's Pizza Hog
Door to Door
Hobo 13
Megadoomer
Gir Goes Crazy and Stuff
Tak the Hideous New Girl
Zim Eats Waffles

Okay Tier
Nano Zim
Attack of the Saucer Morons
Career Day
A Room With a Moose
Game Slave 2
Mysterious Mysteries
Future Dib
Lice
Dibship Rising
Vindicated!
The Voting of the Doomed
Gaz Taster of Pork

Subpar Tier
Walk of Doom
Battle Dib
FBI Warning of Doom
Abducted

Irredemable Tier
Plague of Babies
The Sad, Sad Tale of Chickenfoot
Mortos der Soulstealer

Matthew Walker
Matthew Walker

I'm rewatching the show in order and so far G&E and "season 1" aren't cutting it for me, when does it get to wacky AHTF-esque humor of doing random shit.

Carter Jenkins
Carter Jenkins

When you notice a change in the drawing style, a little more stylized. The first seasons are pretty weak, when the color is all weird.

Oliver Sanchez
Oliver Sanchez

Grim Adventures was better. Better porn too.
Makes me hate the spic even more now.

David Powell
David Powell

JTHM was what the guy was known for. Why would he have been hired to make a show in the first place if they didn't know about what he had previously done?

Joshua Flores
Joshua Flores

Perhaps one exec didn't like another exec bring him on?

Henry Young
Henry Young

bump

Christian Bailey
Christian Bailey

It was more likely that was because of Spongebob, but either way thank God it did, IZ was trash.

Gabriel Bennett
Gabriel Bennett

AHTF
JTHM
What are those supposed to be?

Thomas Adams
Thomas Adams

Invader ZIM's only bad episode is mortos

Adam Cook
Adam Cook

Why?

Isaiah Martinez
Isaiah Martinez

Pretty good.

Jacob Jones
Jacob Jones

Johnny the Homicidal Maniac, and Affordable Housing Trust Fund

Brayden Anderson
Brayden Anderson

Well, that was interesting. What was it?

Easton Hall
Easton Hall

A weird unfinished animation based off of the leaked audio files for the episodes that never came out, namely Mopiness of Doom, Roboparents Gone Wild and Day of Da Spookies.

Sadly I actually made tons of turnsheets and backgrounds for an old fan-animated Zim project but SoapyWaffles never even asked me for them.

Blake Lopez
Blake Lopez

SoapyWaffles has been fucking dead for years now. No signs of life whatsoever.

mfw

Jackson White
Jackson White

Well then all's well that ends well.

As the head of the very first Invader Zim Fan Animated team, the only thing we managed to squeeze out after 3 years was a 2-minute short on Newgrounds. I managed the forums and co-managed the team. The ratio of "idea guys" and scriptwriters to animators was a thousand to one. I ended up co-animating the short myself out of frustration. It doesn't look that great but at least it was something. All the full-color turnsheets I made of Gaz, The Tallest, Professor Membrane, the other Invaders, the Skoolkids, as well as the main trio seem like they will just rot on my portable HDD, never to be used, like tears on Bane. A big guy.

Jordan Reed
Jordan Reed

To finish my thought I eventually stopped giving a crap about the project when it was apparent it would not help me find a job nor were we going to find enough people to do it FOR FREE to make any episodes on a human timescale. Plus I had college to focus on. I'm not sad though, I met some cool friends on the forums and learned a lot about animating. I heartily scoff at any naive user who thinks he can corral people on Holla Forums into doing his work for him FOR FREE. if someone is good at something, they shouldn't do it without compensation.

Austin Perez
Austin Perez

No one is going to read all that.

Asher Rivera
Asher Rivera

What the fuck are you talking about? It's not even two paragraphs.

Owen Gonzalez
Owen Gonzalez

If it's any consolation, if you're applying for an animation job, having lots of turn-arounds and backgrounds is great for a portfolio, and a good portfolio is worth its weight in gold.

I read it.

Tyler Lewis
Tyler Lewis

I did

Dylan Parker
Dylan Parker

I just want to know if the music composer ever found new work afterwards, he's CRIMINALLY underrated. Needs to be in more games of any genre since he has a seemingly versatile range of mood.

Adrian Thompson
Adrian Thompson

I wish they would bring back Evil Con Carne.

Luke Murphy
Luke Murphy

Have you tried MySpace?

Eli Peterson
Eli Peterson

MyWhat?

Jayden Hernandez
Jayden Hernandez

proto-facebook.

Blake Morris
Blake Morris

D-don't joke around, user.

Ryan King
Ryan King

Don't tempt him.

Charles Davis
Charles Davis

Agreed, user. Kevin Manthei is a fucking god. 30-40% of my love for the show came from its beyond-incredible music score. I think he also worked on the score for Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015).

Jeremiah Cooper
Jeremiah Cooper

So is this coming back or not?

Bentley White
Bentley White

No.

James Lopez
James Lopez

Okay

Joshua Cook
Joshua Cook

Sad to hear.

Aaron Adams
Aaron Adams

Didn't they announce a tv movie recently?

Asher Thomas
Asher Thomas

Not sure.

Gavin Rodriguez
Gavin Rodriguez

You have anything from the past, that your willing to share?

Andrew Miller
Andrew Miller

The humanity of today in a nutshell.

worked on the score for Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015)
He has shit luck with jobs.

Chase Gonzalez
Chase Gonzalez

Tell me about it.

Anthony Phillips
Anthony Phillips

Walk of Doom sub-par
Bolognius Maximus in very good tier
This list is definitely irredeemable tier that's for sure.

Henry Wood
Henry Wood

We can agree on that.

Eli Edwards
Eli Edwards

This

Isaiah Smith
Isaiah Smith

Reminder that Jhonen is a huge liberal cuck.

Brandon Myers
Brandon Myers

And a tryhard, soapboxing, wannabe edgy faggot. That been mentioned?

Charles Sanchez
Charles Sanchez

A man who never grew out of his 15 year old self's obsession with darkness and blood has the political opinions of a fifteen year old.
Color me surprised!

Brody Gutierrez
Brody Gutierrez

Reminder: Everything Holla Forums loves is made by liberals.

Jose Rodriguez
Jose Rodriguez

Reminder that Jhonen is a huge liberal cuck

Why thank you, political commissar.

Carter Gomez
Carter Gomez

Hey, you're allowed to have whatever opinion you want on here. Just don't be surprised by the backlash you get when said opinion goes against the majority. Also, nice turn of phrase. Let me guess, "the right wing is the real commies!".

Adrian Russell
Adrian Russell

919781

It really gets tiring discussing politics every thread. Is this all you ever talk about?

Isaiah Torres
Isaiah Torres

Is this your first day here?

Tyler Martinez
Tyler Martinez

kek, spot on

Aiden Moore
Aiden Moore

scream saving.

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