Questionable Malcontent - /clang/ Edition

Jeremiah Gonzalez
Jeremiah Gonzalez

In a much better webcomic, there's a decent clang arc going on. But here we are stuck with detachable asses and autists.

Previous thread: http://archive.is/yR2Vb

Git archives
Edits: https://gitgud.io/InfinityMalcontent/QMC_Edits/tree/master
OC: https://gitgud.io/InfinityMalcontent/QMC_OC/tree/master
Threads archive: https://gitgud.io/InfinityMalcontent/QMC_Threads/wikis/home

Older stuff (Editfag Prime):
Edits: http://imgur.com/a/Sf5J0
Omits: http://imgur.com/a/HtKr0
Twitter Bully: http://imgur.com/a/Jb1a1
OC: http://imgur.com/a/kSZcE

All urls found in this thread:
http://archive.is/yR2Vb
https://gitgud.io/InfinityMalcontent/QMC_Edits/tree/master
https://gitgud.io/InfinityMalcontent/QMC_OC/tree/master
https://gitgud.io/InfinityMalcontent/QMC_Threads/wikis/home
http://imgur.com/a/Sf5J0
http://imgur.com/a/HtKr0
http://imgur.com/a/Jb1a1
http://imgur.com/a/kSZcE
http://yudkowsky.tumblr.com/writing/.
https://archive.is/j7YaJ
http://yudkowsky.net/other/fiction/dark-lords-answer/
https://lesswrong.com/lw/y4/three_worlds_collide_08/
Jacob Perez
Jacob Perez

Edits

Eli Russell
Eli Russell

Actually omits

Jose Taylor
Jose Taylor

OCs

Jason Roberts
Jason Roberts

Don't forget your medicine, Holla Forums

Asher Brooks
Asher Brooks

Baggyfag's stuff

Josiah Perez
Josiah Perez

I'm desperately trying to justify why all my characters just sound like me

Isaac Morales
Isaac Morales

I'm trying to use my schizophrenia to cover for my lack of empathy
I'm surprised it's not working!

Cameron Harris
Cameron Harris

Thanks, doc.

Luke Moore
Luke Moore

Deliberately induced schizophrenia is sort of the method Moore uses to write his characters. It's not bad per se.

Matthew Cox
Matthew Cox

Funny enough, this is the way I play my NPCs when I run tabletop games. If you spend a little time and imagine the life experiences of a character, it's pretty easy to mentally construct them as a person and let the roleplaying flow like a normal conversation.

Unfortunately, if you don't spend the time to maintain each character by thinking about only them, they tend to flanderize and blend into each other. This is what's happening to Jeph's characters, and it's also the reason he keeps getting bored when he has a cast of dozens to work with.

Dominic Lee
Dominic Lee

1 weird trick to not make all characters not sound the same: every time you're tempted to have them say something like, "What's up assbutt fartface poopy poop poopstain?" just don't.

Jaxson Ross
Jaxson Ross

Why do people obsess over a webcomic they claim to hate?

Juan Nelson
Juan Nelson

/tech/ obsesses over systemd. /pol/ obsesses over jews.

Carter Powell
Carter Powell

Do we really have to explain this every thread? The short version is that hatred is a unifying force, and the wretchedness of QC motivates us to try and come up with better shit using the hack author's table scraps.

Jacob Diaz
Jacob Diaz

Pascalle Lepas is definitely a (((systemd))) user.

Ethan Martinez
Ethan Martinez

I'm disappointed that thus far no-one has edited Clairence in the OP to have spots and a crossed bandaid on his arse.

Jace Moore
Jace Moore

what a cunt.

Aaron Allen
Aaron Allen

implying systemd and judaism are different things

Evan Diaz
Evan Diaz

That's some serious fucking autism right there. I'm not exactly a great conversationalist, but that question is obviously asking for "what comics did you like".

Adrian Cooper
Adrian Cooper

It's also an ice breaker designed to branch off to something else. She might answer something like, "Well my father was an avid reader so like father like daughter I guess." Then the interviewer follows up with something like, "So you and your father were close? Did he encourage you into illustration as a career?"

Speaking of autistic illustrators, have some QC "art" from Willis.

Cooper Sanchez
Cooper Sanchez

Or even ignoring that, it could be a question of, "what about comics that drew you in that books, T.V./movies, etc..?"

It is an easy open ended question that allows the interviewee to wax philosophical for a few paragraphs, maybe even shill their own products. But no, kill the conversation, don't give the interviewer any lead ins or any any other topics to cover.

Easton Williams
Easton Williams

Neither of them knows what a penis actually looks like…
I firmly believe they're the kind of betas who think getting hard is sexist and objectifies women or some shit.

Colton Jones
Colton Jones

I firmly believe they're the kind of betas who think getting hard is sexist and objectifies women or some shit.
You say that like they're outliers but no, according to feminist theory it's sexist of men to be attracted to women at all. It's sexist to be gay as well.

Jack Long
Jack Long

Those are both things that affect the real world, though. This is a webcomic. It has no impact on anything.

Cooper Watson
Cooper Watson

It has plenty of impact on other webcomics. Handstab is a trailblazer for the model of "barely put in any effort, appeal to hipsters and sjws, coast off patreon".

Ryder Parker
Ryder Parker

Can't you apply that to 95% of the discussion on this board?

Joseph King
Joseph King

Wow, you're like totally right, man.
Like, why even read comic books at all man?
They're like, fake and stuff.

Fuck off. People can talk about what they like; people can talk about what they dislike.
We're saying we can see the emperor has no clothes, and will say that contrary to the fanboy circlejerk and ill-deserved adulation of not just a webcomic "artist", but an arrogant, deluded, hypocritical nutcase.
It's also cathartic.

And not to mention the fact that the edits are invariably much better than the source material.

That said, since the Robot Wars plot got wrapped up real quick, the story, or what somehow passes for a story, has gotten mighty boring.

I've said it once and I'll likely say it again, in the face of true potential Jeph has settled for mediocrity.
He had what *could* have been a decent story in Robot Wars, resulting in the best edits and rewrites (rewrites! Where we didn't just poke fun at all the stupid characters, but fleshed them out and gave them depth!) but no; he killed that off with all the writing talents of an 8 year old.

Alexander Brooks
Alexander Brooks

Like, why even read comic books at all man?
They're like, fake and stuff.
This is completely correct though

Grayson Ross
Grayson Ross

The lolcow has no milk, man. These threads are just like the /gg/ generals. Arbitrary discussion that slowls to a crawl even by this board's standards, and does nothing but obsess over a part of the bigger picture. At least Mr. Chandler had some gust to him.

Luis Rivera
Luis Rivera

But what's the point of a constant thread focusing on a mediocre webcomic? Isn't it just a perverse kind of fanboy circlejerk?

Evan Cox
Evan Cox

Do we really have to explain this every thread?
Apparently we do.

Bentley Foster
Bentley Foster

Thanks buddy

Colton Ortiz
Colton Ortiz

Here's an even simpler explanation for you faggots
I can do whatever the fuck I want and if I wanna waste my time shitposting about a webcomic there ain't nothing you can do about it

John Kelly
John Kelly

Looks like David the Gnome is about to choke a bitch, such as this shitty Menstro fan art.

Adrian Kelly
Adrian Kelly

Could you guys stop making these threads at least OK K.O.! is still relevant.

Dylan Young
Dylan Young

I wanna waste my time shitposting
That is against the rules.

Dylan Jones
Dylan Jones

Exactly the opposite.
We edit and we rewrite; the fanboys only keep repeating how "great" it is, parrot Jeph's opinions and do nothing creative.

Elijah Gray
Elijah Gray

That doesn't explain shit. If people were actually unifying over this, the author would've killed himself, by now. All you're doing is posting rage faces at some no-name liberal's poz comic, while making "improvements" to something that could never be good, to begin with, and getting mad at anyone who dares question your motives.

When you milk a dry cow hard enough, you yourself are being milked.

Joshua Bailey
Joshua Bailey

Clearly you haven't been following these topics.

getting mad
explaining ourselves = mad

Heh, sure pal. Sure. If the nasty words get you so upset, the best thing to do would be to take a step back from the computer and go work on your treehouse or paint a fence or something.

Matthew King
Matthew King

the nasty words get you so upset
Tu quoque. Not an argument.

Connor Myers
Connor Myers

Just some friendly advice, man; not an argument at all.
If you ask mommy real nice, maybe she'll take you out for some ice cream and you can cool down after your hard day's passionate posting.

Connor Lewis
Connor Lewis

Fuck off jeph

Camden Nguyen
Camden Nguyen

passive-aggression
Not an argument.
wat

Angel Anderson
Angel Anderson

Writefag question: how do you best manage this? It's hard to do, I find, at least on the first draft.

Justin Gray
Justin Gray

Eliezer Yudkowsky wrote quite a bit on how to write characters well; http://yudkowsky.tumblr.com/writing/. Obviously flavored for the rationalist community, but not bad for that.

One of the critical tools to harness is empathy with others. If you don't have a mental model of how various other people think and speak, it's going to be difficult to give your own characters unique and varying voices. The best way to do that is, unfortunately, to go out and talk to people and immerse yourself in normal society. Discussion on message boards and other echo chambers just won't cut it.

Robert Myers
Robert Myers

Try to treat your characters like real-life people. If you're writing a character who's supposed to be very different from yourself, think about WHY they are different and what life choices and circumstances made them this way. You don't have to like every character you're writing but you still need to understand why they act the way they act, otherwise they will come out flat.

That's why so many people have a hard time writing decent villains: they just slap the worst character traits on them they can imagine and don't bother trying to understand that character, so in the end they're just writing about an evil cardboard cutout.

Zachary Allen
Zachary Allen

Yudkowsky
holy fuck that guy is probably the worst writer I've ever read, apart from his whole "paranoia that omnipotent AIs that haven't been invented yet" thing he has going on

Easton James
Easton James

Jeph plz go

Jackson Bell
Jackson Bell

not an argument

Heh, he thinks I'm arguing…

I think it's way past your nap time, son.
Can't have you all grumpy like this for the rest of the day.

Bentley Hughes
Bentley Hughes

I've read some of his stuff. I can enjoy it, but only if I turn off my brain and pretend that people actually work that way, which is inexcusable for something that entirely focuses on dismantling the way people work.
It got really hilarious when I read his OKCupid profile.
https://archive.is/j7YaJ
The whole thing is ridiculous, but this stood out, in context:
I have a strong sexually sadistic streak, but if I don't believe she's turned on by it, it does nothing for me.
You see, Elizier wrote a faux-Japanese Light Novel called "Dark Lord's Answer".
http://yudkowsky.net/other/fiction/dark-lords-answer/
In this story it's a plot point that there's an extremely contrived setup that makes it morally permissible for the main character to rape a girl if he wants to, because she's going to get raped by other people if he doesn't, and at the end it's revealed that she actually set it up that way herself because she's into it. And this is not a book about sex, mind you - it's about morality and economics in a generic fantasy world. But he felt the need to insert his specific fetish into it anyway.
And this is not even limited to that story. Here's something else he wrote:
https://lesswrong.com/lw/y4/three_worlds_collide_08/
It's a story about moral relativism. Humanity encounters two alien species, one of which thinks it's a moral imperative to eat babies, and the other of which is even weirder. But just presenting two alien species with awful ethics wasn't enough. He needed to make the future humans weird too. So humanity in his story thinks that - you guessed it - there is nothing unethical about rape.
It's one thing to have a rape fetish, but why the fuck would you make it a recurring theme in your writing?

Austin Kelly
Austin Kelly

Reminds me of that bit in Methods of Rationality where first year Draco Malfoy suddenly starts going on about he could rape Lovegood and get away with it. Not that there's anything wrong with giving Luna a good hard surprise dicking mind you

Dylan Hughes
Dylan Hughes

GO STAB YOUR HAND SOME MORE JEPH

Anthony Price
Anthony Price

Wikipedia says I'm an Artificial Intelligence researcher. The TVTropes page on me lists me as a Science Hero. The highest upvoted item on the Eliezer Yudkowsky Facts page says, "If you say Eliezer Yudkowsky's name 3 times out loud, it prevents anything magical from happening."
Instant boredom. I refuse to consume this sort of pretentious, unnecessarily flowery language.

The worst is when it's used in "news".
A single drop of water resting on top of a leaf
Snow melting by a lake
A sunset rolling with red, orange, and green
These are some of the beautiful things in the world
But some of that beauty was snatched away when 16 year old Lauren Smith was killed in a drunk driving accident
Fuck this pretentiousness.

John White
John White

Who the hell is that?
If you're not arguing, then you're shitposting. I Wouldn't recommend doing that.
Oh, it's the guy who's comic you're obsessing over. Right? What is up with that?

Brandon Bennett
Brandon Bennett

Gotta put that English major to work one way or another

Jacob Peterson
Jacob Peterson

I will never be as upset as this poster is about people trash-talking a shitty webcomic
mfw

Lucas Powell
Lucas Powell

B team is floundering mightily.

Brody Sullivan
Brody Sullivan

4x10^17
I'm guessing Jeph just copied the scientific notation from Wikipedia, since even the most autistic regard would just say "Four Hundred Quadrillion"

David Turner
David Turner

nice triple double

Ryan Wilson
Ryan Wilson

Reminds me of that one famous superman comic where the very last page is like "in the enlightened future, the couple became the triple" like the author had to throw in his threesome fetish at literally the last second. It was just a throwaway line but still, what the fuck

Justin James
Justin James

Not an argument.

Christopher Garcia
Christopher Garcia

Well, looks like he's peaked!
This is just boring now.

Is it just me, or has he actually reduced Chad's muscle mass?
Maybe he got too jealous when drawing him?
That could be the truth, but he'll cover that up by saying strong males are triggering.

And why would the autist be really embarassed by that exchange?
Fayniqua admitted she didn't know that fact, so mission accomplished, there.
And Chad said it was interesting, and being that she can't read reactions very well she'd also take that as a success.

So what is the joke here, anyway…?
"Lol! Autism makes socially awkward!"?

Benjamin Phillips
Benjamin Phillips

Is it just me, or has he actually reduced Chad's muscle mass?
He definitely has.

Evan Hall
Evan Hall

I suspect that's so no-one can threaten the stature of his new, stronk, independent "female" character - Menstro.

So yeah, it's been around for a while bit now we have the independent "female" who don't need no accommodating, competent, organized employer.

Anthony James
Anthony James

this is just boring now
Yet you feel the need to comment. If anything, I feel you're obligated to rebut.

Jeremiah Brooks
Jeremiah Brooks

Threadly reminder that Jeph started with the premise "combat android trying to integrate into civilian life" and somehow ended up at "fat lesbians." He never even gave her a name. Everyone just calls her "bubbles." We may have taken to calling her "Mentsro" as a derisive nickname, but at least it's actually a name.

Where exactly did this "not an argument" non-argument come from? I've seen it all over the place the last month or so. Did a bunch of summerfags just finish baby's first logic and reasoning course this last semester?

Levi Sanchez
Levi Sanchez

Are all webcomic people mental fuck ups in some way?
Even the best ones(unsounded chick, lackadaisy chick, and gunnerkrigg guy) have weird fetishes
unfounded chick is yaoi fangirl with guro fetish
lackadaisy used to draw furry sonic porn
gunnerkrigg dude used to draw lesbo hebe stuff
And of course the big lolcows like the one we discuss itt are all too common. And if they aren't full on really mentally ill, they'll at least have the libshit disease.
What's wrong with webcomics?

Oliver Taylor
Oliver Taylor

I'm pretty le not an argument started as a /tv/ meme

Juan Hall
Juan Hall

lesbo hebe stuff

Yes, and?

Carter Ward
Carter Ward

unsounded chick is yaoi fangirl with guro fetish
Say what not?

William Watson
William Watson

Yeah, the rape thing is really off-putting. I wasn't aware that he was that weird about his status. Ugh.

I think I'm getting too unjaded to enjoy modern fiction; it's become way too dark for my tastes. Every story I read about seems to involve rape and mutilation happening to sympathetic characters without karmic payoff. Maybe I'm just a wuss, but I can't stomach that stuff like I did when I was younger.

Case in point, I stopped reading Unsounded mostly because of the magic smuggling stuff. I mean, I read quite a bit past it, but every time I remembered that it was going on in the story, it darkened everything. The thought of kids being ripped apart and stuffed with black magic that ate them from the inside out kinda wore on me.

It's like everyone has to prove how "adult" and "realistic" their fantasy stories are, so they make everyone absolute bastards without any shred or decency, and refuse to entertain the idea of karmic justice which is most of the reason I'm even interested in these stories.. And a few that don't, like that tumblr Zelda fancomic (A Tale of Two Rulers?) goes so hard in the other direction that it's actually insulting (for example, in the comic, Ganon (who has married Zelda) finds out she was raped as a child and it was covered up. So he decides to slaughter all the rapists that the kingdom has imprisoned in the massive jail that a medieval society can somehow support. The layers of ignorance about the technology and society involved are staggering; it's like the writer honestly believed that the only reason people in those times didn't jail people was ignorance and cruelty). If their readers want a story about bad things happening to good people while wrongdoers get off scot free, they should go read a fucking history book, and stop fucking with escapist literature.

I blame the popularity of George R R Martin.

Angel Ward
Angel Ward

I blame the popularity of George R R Martin.

Spot on there. And it continues to meander without a solid payoff because by the end you just hate everybody involved.

FUCK your moral relativism bullshit. Gimme somebody to room for. PLEASE! What's so bad about being engaged? Why must I loath everybody equally?

Jaxson Martin
Jaxson Martin

I think I'm getting too unjaded to enjoy modern fiction

I feel you there. For years I've been getting more and more sick of the insincere tone that pervades contemporary fiction. I'm sick of fiction trying to prove how """"mature"""" it is by creating worlds that are as deliberately ugly as possible. I'm sick of every fucking thing having to be some kind of meta-aware "clever subversion." I just want to see some stories that feel like they're coming from a sincere, heartfelt place.

Nathan Morris
Nathan Morris

I'm sick of fiction trying to prove how """"mature"""" it is by creating worlds that are as deliberately ugly as possible.
don't feel bad, anti-semitism is common on Holla Forums

Tyler Morales
Tyler Morales

Isn't it a Molyneux meme?

Austin Clark
Austin Clark

Don't worry, heroes will return sooner or later. Probably sooner rather than later.

Anthony Turner
Anthony Turner

I hear it a lot from anarcho-capitalists. "Not an argument" is pretty much Stefan Molyneux's catch phrase. It has evolved into a bad faith hand-waiving argument time waster. You can bring an iron-clad counter and it'll be rejected as "not an argument" if all your sources aren't considered 100% pure by your opponent, which of course they won't be if he disagrees with you.

Ayden Kelly
Ayden Kelly

I like dark fiction but not all of it has to be dark. I remember reading a scathing review of Galaxy Quest that hammered it for being a comedy instead of dark sci-fi, which apparently was an early concept for the movie. The author was earnestly claiming that dark sci-fi was something we lacked. Granted it was 1999 and thus relatively early on in the trend but even back then sci-fi was increasingly bleak and drab looking. Something humorous and energetic was welcomed by me. I'm not a huge fan of the Star Trek reboot but at least with the first one they tried something more upbeat and lively.

worlds that are as deliberately ugly as possible
I thought we agreed we wouldn't talk about Prometheus.

I'm sick of every fucking thing having to be some kind of meta-aware "clever subversion."
I'm fucking sick of the unreliable protagonist. The Six Sense pulls it off and since then we've had 20 years of movies whose plot is "You know all that stuff in the first 100 minutes? It's all made up. The protagonist is crazy or dreaming. Time for a lobotomy or something!"

Hell, even Jeph tried (very weakly) at something like this with the whole memories thing.

Asher Hernandez
Asher Hernandez

unreliable protagonist
*unreliable narrator

Kayden Morris
Kayden Morris

unreliable narrator
*unreliable anonymous poster

Mason Jackson
Mason Jackson

Hey Elliot.
Marten.
Shit, I thought it was Dora.

Jacob Wright
Jacob Wright

no homo

Alexander Campbell
Alexander Campbell

His hair looks the same even though he turned 90°. Did his hair slide around? I answered my own question by looking at the artist credit.

Also, I'm sure that the club was supposed to be a subtle joke about penis size, but Jeph approached it with his usual subtlety by having it jutting out in front of his waist.

Isaac Clark
Isaac Clark

It has evolved into a bad faith hand-waiving argument time waster.
This is not an argument.

Zachary Young
Zachary Young

He thinks antisemitism is ugly.
It's beautiful, user. If you don't hate that which seeks to destroy all you love, you don't truely love it. Hatred is just a reflection of love.

A lot of sageing and shilling in this thread, btw.

So Jeph's totally open about the fact that it was a shakedown? Apparently crime is "cute".

It appears that Elliot's diminished muscles will be a permanent feature.

Eli Green
Eli Green

Pretty accurate, actually.

Levi Walker
Levi Walker

it's almost like you didn't get the joke, user expressed at disgust at (((people))) who make ugly art, we all know that's anti-semitism :^)

Eli Edwards
Eli Edwards

kek, where'd you find that?

Jace Gutierrez
Jace Gutierrez

New face.

Kevin Gomez
Kevin Gomez

Plot twist! Black Faye is an asshole, and Martens tranny girlfriend gets angry at nothing, news at 11.

I wonder if Stabby thinks that people really behaves like that ("hey guy I never seen for ages, i'm gonna talk shit about you, and you know what? Your boyfriend pretending to be your girlfriend is gonna listen and belive ME instead of defending YOU, Ah ah ah") or he just cannot into plots

Gavin Allen
Gavin Allen

clarence suddenly develops a personality
its snide unlikeable cunt

Connor Martin
Connor Martin

ditzy flaky girl sends Marten mixed signals
Marten burns out
Marten thinks he is the asshole
Faye thinks Marten is the asshole
Dora thinks Marten is the asshole
R'nee thinks Marten is the asshole
Clarence thinks Marten is the asshole

Though, really, pretty shit writing to have someone like anxiety-ridden, acceptance-stared Clarence flip on a dime on the one dude that gave >her a chance. Wasn't >her concern merely with Marten's buy-in, not with whatever past relationships?

Real talk, feminine penis aside, this is the biggest problem with trannies: they exemplify simultaneously the worst aspect of both genders: male brutishness and female hypergamy

Cooper Hall
Cooper Hall

Questionable Decisions

His best defense is to just say "We had to break up because she moved away". All he has to do is say this very simple line of dialogue and R'në no longer has a platform to lambast him any more.

Nolan Allen
Nolan Allen

There's a lot of both antisemitism and "antisemitism" on Holla Forums, so I don't know if it works. I thought you were unironically whining about antisemitism on Holla Forums and posted something I thought might trigger you. Not 100% wrong, though.

Someone she hasn't seen in a long time walks in to her store with his >girlfriend. Her first reflex is to retell humiliating stories to >her.

Liam Brown
Liam Brown

I feel like I just read your comment on YouTube, on their #MoreThanARefugee propaganda video, explaining to a concern troll that the ironic "(((antisemitism)))" in the comments pales in comparison to the actual antisemitism imported with the "refugees".

Jordan Ross
Jordan Ross

All hands on neck!

Thomas Wood
Thomas Wood

Well, whaddaya know…
I actually *don't* know how to interpret that facial expression.

And once again, all the females and >females are being cunts, but that's A-OK!

Why would Clairence be so interested in that, anyway? He wants to know how much of an "idiot" his boyfriend is? That same boyfriend who accepted his derangement immediately, without any questions at all, bent over for him at the drop of a hat, and basically lets him do anything and everything?
Shit, I'd fully expect him to have a chastity cage round Marten's cock at this point.

As a side note, I don't think Jeph actually wants Marten in the story any more.
He appears less and less, and judging by today's strip I don't think he likes drawing him, either.
Everyone else is getting constantly revised and redesigned to be "cuter" (see, "fatter"), but even by Jeph's standards, Marten looks fucking awful.

Nathan Reed
Nathan Reed

That's the facial expression of a man who just realized he really has nothing to live for. I hope we get a Marten suicide arc, he's probably the only character Jeph could kill off with no fuss from the peanut gallery.

Anthony Brown
Anthony Brown

If he killed himself off, the arc would focus on the "sarcasm" from everyone else and then the actual funeral would be forgotten for some other shitty arc.

Oliver Murphy
Oliver Murphy

Or he gets stabbed slightly offscreen, then they have a timeskip and he's never mentioned again.

Daniel Evans
Daniel Evans

Nope. If Marten kills himself, that story arc will be all about Faye's emotional turmoil over the fact that the men in her life are driven to suicide. Maybe other characters will be involved, but they will only be in the story to show how people react to Faye's mental trauma.

Adrian Gray
Adrian Gray

As a side note, I don't think Jeph actually wants Marten in the story any more.
He appears less and less, and judging by today's strip I don't think he likes drawing him, either.
Silly user, Jeph doesn't like drawing anything.

Austin Clark
Austin Clark

The real victims in the aftermath of Marten's suicide would be the Muslims.

Wait, why aren't there any Muzzies in this? Seems a good way to more Patreon bux.

Brody Reyes
Brody Reyes

And he would completely miss the fact that the only common denominator in both cases was Faye.

Brody Taylor
Brody Taylor

Potential conflict defused immediately.

Jayden Gutierrez
Jayden Gutierrez

Didn't even take the whole strip, was resolved in panel 3 of 5.

It's amazing how much better Jeph's backgrounds were in the mid-2000s. Everything is just right angles here.

Also, nice revisionism from Dora. Marten didn't have the problem, she did. In spades.
marten do you like me
yes
really like me
yes
really really like me
yes
super really like me
jesus dora
omg you're so insecure and pining for faye
what are you on about, fuck

Nolan Torres
Nolan Torres

Hey. I love you. I don't want to be with anyone else.
Marten's facial expression in that panel suggests otherwise.

Clarence's face continues to be punchable as hell.

Asher Price
Asher Price

Marten's facial expression in that panel suggests otherwise.
Nah, he was telling the truth. Just he was actually talking to the ceiling.

John Long
John Long

Maybe he's too scared about them?

Imagine he adds a muslim woman (because of course it will be a woman). He'll either
1. Have her act exactly like the other characters, showing that there's no difference between muslims and the rest of us
which muslims might not like because she'll do and tolerate haram things, or
2: Make the muslim different from the others
which SJWs won't like, because it implies we're not all the same.

I think he can't do #2 because he knows SJWs will hate it and he can't do #1 because he's scared of muslims.

So >she snoops around in his history against his wishes and immediately makes it about >herself? Of course, Marten is too much of a pussy to get upset.

It's polyphobia.

It's a ceiling much like the one he'll use to hang the rope.

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