WE'RE UP TO FIVE MASSIVE INTEL EXPLOTS NOW

Nathaniel Gray
Nathaniel Gray

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/262031-researchers-found-another-major-security-flaw-intel-cpus

Tl;DR: AMT is remotely vulnerable via default passwords

Tech was right again!

Sorry I keep posting ET; they're just my favorite site

All urls found in this thread:
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/262031-researchers-found-another-major-security-flaw-intel-cpus
https://archive.fo/qRWSz
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/intel-amt-vulnerability-announcement.html
https://business.f-secure.com/intel-amt-security-issue
https://youtu.be/Qp8yxJHvxuo
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/19/oracle_sparc_m8_solaris/
https://github.com/xoreaxeaxeax/sandsifter
Christian Sanders
Christian Sanders

Intel is fucking dumb. I'm buying a used PPC Mac on ebay and throwing my Intel shit in the bin. Fuck this.

Carter Murphy
Carter Murphy

Is it at all possible to remove an Intel CPU from a thinkpad and replace it with something made by AMD? Is there anything made by AMD that's compatible? Or should I just figure out how to get Linux running on my GameCube (PowerPC + ATI graphics)?

Julian Gomez
Julian Gomez

Well you can try PlayStation as well, it's AMD CPU and GPU, and fairly decent performance for modern age.

Blake Cook
Blake Cook

The second choice is your best bet, but based on the sheer and utter retardation of your first question you probably won't be able to pull it off.

Robert Moore
Robert Moore

no text dump
not even an archive
Tech
I'm sick of doing work for shitty OPs.

Security researchers have pinpointed another major security hole in Intel processors, in addition to the security holes in the Intel Management Engine and the Meltdown flaw that hits Intel CPUs uniquely hard. This time, it’s an issue with Intel’s Active Management Technology (AMT), a feature typically reserved for systems that support Intel vPro or workstation platforms with certain Xeon CPUs.
The Intel AMT is designed to allow administrators to access and update PCs, even if those PCs are turned off. All they need is an internet connection and a wall socket and they can be updated. That’s a useful tool for large multinational firms with far-flung employees, but it’s also a potential security risk. F-Secure has published information highlighting how easily an attacker with even brief local access can gain full access to an entire machine. Here’s how they describe the problem:

A BIOS password normally prevents an unauthorized user from making low-level changes to a device. However, the essence of this issue is that even when a BIOS password has been set, an attacker does not need it to configure AMT. Not only that, due to insecure defaults in the BIOS and AMT’s BIOS extension (MEBx) configuration, an attacker with physical access can effectively backdoor a machine by provisioning AMT using the default password. The attacker can then access the device remotely, by connecting to the same wireless or wired network as the user. In certain cases, the assailant can also program AMT to connect to their own server, which negates the necessity of being in the same network segment as the victim.

In short, setting a BIOS password won’t help and once someone has access, you can’t kick them out. The researchers note that no other security measures, including local firewalls, BIOS passwords, anti-malware software, or use of a VPN can prevent a compromised system from leaking data, because it’s been compromised outside of the Windows environment, in a separate OS that’s completely shielded from any attempt to inspect or control the data flowing out of or into it.

From here, the possibilities are endless. Even firmware-based malware can be easily uploaded to the system with no chance of detection. And while local access might seem a tough barrier to crack, it’s not as hard as it seems. The changes can be made in under a minute, according to F-Secure. It may not be the kind of attack that gets deployed across thousands of systems on a corporate local network — at least not without additional steps — but it’s exactly the kind of targeted attack a government agency might use. And more to the point, it illustrates that Intel CPUs are once again vulnerable to set of management capabilities that Intel decided to sandbox entirely from the primary operating system.

And more to the point, this is an easily resolved flaw. Even if you think the chance of system penetration via inappropriate local access is minimal, the solution to this problem is to not allow access to the AMT until the proper BIOS password is entered. If a user can’t unlock the BIOS, they shouldn’t be allowed to enter a password for AMT configuration (the default password is, of course, “admin”). Most AMT-capable devices, F-Secure notes, don’t use the feature in the first place. They’re still at risk of local attack, because this attack works against AMT-enabled devices with default passwords. And once inside AMT (reached by hitting Ctrl-P during boot), the attacker can log in using “admin,” input a new remote password, configure AMT to suppress notifications that the laptop has been connected to remotely (thereby preventing users from knowing what’s happened), and also configure it to allow wireless remote management in addition to wired management.

Once this is done, the attacker can connect to the system if he’s on the same local area network or program AMT to enable Client Initiated Remote Access (CIRA), which will connect to the attackers’ servers and avoid any need for local access at all.

Not a great look on a company that’s already being hammered by other security flaws. Intel’s entire rationale for keeping so much of its security infrastructure locked away looks less and less like the principled decision of a company keeping us safe and more like a desperate attempt to cover just how badly it treats security. Because folks, look, this is not a sophisticated attack. This is not some crazy idea. In fact, it’s one of the first things I would expect an attacker to try, if said person had even a basic concept of what functions like AMT and the Intel Management Engine can be configured to do.

https://archive.fo/qRWSz

Andrew Perry
Andrew Perry

The second choice is your best bet
Neat. I need to go find the GameCube's broadband modem on eBay, then.

but based on the sheer and utter retardation of your first question you probably won't be able to pull it off.
I'll refrain from asking such stupid questions in the future.

Julian Ward
Julian Ward

It's worth emphasizing that this is a local-only exploit (at least initially) and it can be mitigated by accessing the AMT and changing the password. Chances are nobody here will be directly affected by it, and it continues the merciless nightmare for Intel and especially their management engine, so cheers all around for Holla Forums.

Evan Sanders
Evan Sanders

Unfortunately there are no Ryzen Thinkpads yet. Soon.

Nathan Cruz
Nathan Cruz

Please Holla Forums does nothing but post shit about the work other people do.

Daniel Adams
Daniel Adams

go find the GameCube's broadband modem on eBay, then.
Honestly, you should just buy a wii instead. I'm pretty sure the wii itself will be cheaper than the boradband adapter.
<muh etherent > wifi
You can just use a usb etherenet adapter which you should be able to find fairly cheap.

Elijah Parker
Elijah Parker

AHAHAHAHA

Ryder Moore
Ryder Moore

Is it at all possible to remove an Intel CPU from a thinkpad and replace it with something made by AMD?
If it's newer it probably has a soldered-in CPU, if it's older then you'd need to replace the main board in your device. Basically you'd be better off buying an AMD laptop of your choosing.

Or should I just figure out how to get Linux running on my GameCube (PowerPC + ATI graphics)?
PowerPC after late 2005 is vulnerable to Spectre, so having a Gamecube as a desktop would be no better than having an AMD box; in fact since IBM has had problems patching their POWER chips, it might be worse since that seems to be going smoother for Team Red. However, certain G3 and G4 Apple devices are practically immune to these security flaws due to peculiarities in their design, but they are a decade old so be aware of performance tradeoffs going into a transition to those devices. See

Hunter Powell
Hunter Powell

Also, as an addendum, while Gamecube is older than the G3's and G4's linked above, it's a 400-500MHz processor and would be difficult to use for daily tasks, if you can even get anything running on it. I was thinking more along the lines of the Wii, which IS modern enough to support a desktop system with some success but would have the post G5 PPC Spectre vulnerability. Either way, PPC consoles are unlikely to have any patches issued for Spectre.

Samuel Evans
Samuel Evans

The PS4 CPU is weak as fuck and its PCI bus is bridged behind an ARM chip. Don't buy one for casual jailbreaking or you're in for a world of pain.

Jaxon Morgan
Jaxon Morgan

Again, nobody tells if it "works" on macbooks and other apple hardware. WTF is it too hard?

Ethan Foster
Ethan Foster

The Intel AMT is designed to allow administrators to access and update PCs, even if those PCs are turned off. All they need is an internet connection and a wall socket and they can be updated. That’s a useful tool for large multinational firms with far-flung employees, but it’s also a potential security risk.
"Potential security risk." Let's call it what it is: a fucking backdoor.
Why is this garbage even sold to home users who don't need or want it? Is it because NSA are the admins now?

Y'all niggers better start boycotting. Don't worry about Intel going out of business though, they still make CPUs for the military. This is just about letting them know you don't like being assraped, speaking to them in the only language they understand: money. BOYCOTT INTEL.

Luis Nelson
Luis Nelson

Retarded Sysadmins keep Remote Management Enabled without changing the password
Somehow this is Intels fault
Holla Forums -LARPNiggers

Leo Carter
Leo Carter

AMT exploit
This is in addition to the one found last May?
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/intel-amt-vulnerability-announcement.html
On May 1, Intel published a security advisory regarding a critical firmware vulnerability in certain systems that utilize Intel® Active Management Technology (AMT), Intel® Standard Manageability (ISM) or Intel® Small Business Technology (SBT). The vulnerability could enable a network attacker to remotely gain access to business PCs or devices that use these technologies. Consumer PCs with consumer firmware and data center servers using Intel® Server Platform Services are not affected by this vulnerability.
I think not since the article you cite links to the following:
https://business.f-secure.com/intel-amt-security-issue
On May 1, Intel published a security advisory regarding a critical firmware vulnerability in certain systems that utilize Intel® Active Management Technology (AMT), Intel® Standard Manageability (ISM) or Intel® Small Business Technology (SBT). The vulnerability could enable a network attacker to remotely gain access to business PCs or devices that use these technologies. Consumer PCs with consumer firmware and data center servers using Intel® Server Platform Services are not affected by this vulnerability.

Isaac Richardson
Isaac Richardson

switch off Remote Management or change password makes you safe.
BIOS password and settings are irrelevant to an exploit of AMT.

Liam Howard
Liam Howard

ge even sold to home users who don't need or want it? Is it because NSA are the admins now?
Yes.
Y'all niggers better start boycotting.
This.

Jacob Howard
Jacob Howard

Wii, which IS modern enough to support a desktop system with some success but would have the post G5 PPC Spectre vulnerability
Are you sure about that? The CPU is based on the G3 architecture.

Josiah Russell
Josiah Russell

Not him, but I posted here before that you can easily run Debian (Whiite Linux) on a Homebrew'd Wii with IceWM and even Dillon as the main web browser fairly well as long as you had ample SWAP space, which I just had dedicated to a USB flash drive

Would still never use it as a daily driver though. But it was a nice little novelty nonetheless.

Ryan Phillips
Ryan Phillips

that flash drive isn't going to live long

Josiah Flores
Josiah Flores

X86 is such a steaming pile of botnet shit it needs to die.

Jordan Allen
Jordan Allen

Its really pathetic that you spam this shit in multiple threads. Begone LARP Goblin

Liam Miller
Liam Miller

I'm right behind you user.
https://youtu.be/Qp8yxJHvxuo

Daniel Torres
Daniel Torres

be user of old ThinkPad
maxed out stats for atleast muh maximum performance
just werks
<now on suicide watch because old CPUs are said to be slowed down the most
Do I just keep deferring all updates from now on? I don't want 50% performance drops. I'm on Core2Duo at the moment...

Ayden Gray
Ayden Gray

Why do you care? Is somebody forcing you to use x86?

Samuel Mitchell
Samuel Mitchell

My boss. A lot of big orgs use proprietary software that only x86.
Sucks a massive dick, but there's not really a convenient way around it.
So, on another note, are there any CPU architectures that aren't a steaming file of shit?

Ryan Sanchez
Ryan Sanchez

So why do you care about that? You don't own those computers do you? What your employers decide to do with their business ought to have zero effect upon your personal life.

Blake Perry
Blake Perry

Actually, it is my personal computer. I won't get into why - it's a long story.
But, regardless, we also FORCE clients to use some of this software in order to communicate with us. I've also had to deal with clients where they've forced me to use software that is OSX only.
The fact of the matter is that in the real working world, compromise is necessary. It's hard to escape this. Not only are we in debt to (((them))) by way of usury and fractional reserve banking practises, but they've placed their brackets all around Silicon Valley too.

Lucas Richardson
Lucas Richardson

() parentheses
[] brackets
{} braces
Learn the difference, it might save you face

Isaac Anderson
Isaac Anderson

implying programmers gives one hot fuck damn about what English majors with too much time on their hands define a bracket to be

Oliver Edwards
Oliver Edwards

implying that non-programmers refer to brackets as parentheses
Regardless, you completely dodged the rest of my post.

Ayden Cox
Ayden Cox

This post is correct. Only my fair lady tier bongs call them all brackets.

Jack Ward
Jack Ward

you completely dodged the rest of my pos
I'm not the same person you were replying to. Why the fuck doesn't Holla Forums use poster id's anyways?

Colton Jenkins
Colton Jenkins

YEAR OF THE RISC-V DESKTOP CPU FUCKING WHEN

Xavier Wright
Xavier Wright

The general purpose desktop as we know it needs to die. Say good bye to Windows and Linux both. We're going to have to start using the video game console model, everything compartmentalized and specialized and locked down to a strict set of supported hardware so that it can be optimized as much as is humanly possible with absolutely no room for "a complete standalone OS embedded into the CPU for the purpose of remote code execution and spying".

Grayson Ward
Grayson Ward

absolutely no room for "a complete standalone OS embedded into the CPU for the purpose of remote code execution and spying".
o i am laffin

Parker Gray
Parker Gray

implying normal people gives one hot fuck damn about what programmers with too much time on their hands define anything to be

Justin Bennett
Justin Bennett

What's better than one big botnet?
EVEN MORE BOTNETS!
Drawn yourself.

Sebastian Murphy
Sebastian Murphy

And if they're specialized and compartmentalized you can just remove them, you double nigger.

Asher Ross
Asher Ross

And after that you can finally drawn yourself, because you have exactly 0 hardware and 0 software to work with that isn't botnetted you fucking idiot.

Wyatt Ross
Wyatt Ross

he gets mad at other people for not using botnetted hardware and software

Owen Williams
Owen Williams

*SPIES ON YOU*

Oh Jesus Christ in heaven!

Asher Price
Asher Price

Where do faggots like you even come from anyways?

Isaac Jones
Isaac Jones

852163
reddit spacing

Levi Stewart
Levi Stewart

It's gonna keep happening if you still a class collaborationist.
Stop being a retard

Jacob Cooper
Jacob Cooper

It's okay lainon. One day they will see the light.

Parker Cruz
Parker Cruz

implying nu-consoles don't have their own super sekrit mario management engine embedded inside the audio codec/USB controller/GPU etc.
No thanks, I'd rather a no-frills libre motherboard standard every piece of consumer desktop HW is strictly required to follow.

Charles Price
Charles Price

several low functioning autists on Holla Forums boycott Intel
Intel lose a couple of thousand in potential sales
military, government and large corps still buy Intel
The dent in their profits is going to be undetectable. Indistinguishable from noise.
Don't buy Intel because they will fuck you over. But calling it a boycott and acting like it's going to achieve anything on a larger scale is a pipe dream.

Nathaniel Taylor
Nathaniel Taylor

trannyboardownersuckingdick.mp4

Oliver Bennett
Oliver Bennett

this violates the rules of this board, cease and desist immediately

Jacob Foster
Jacob Foster

Hi (((/leftypol/ BO))).

Jonathan Price
Jonathan Price

why are traps so ugly irl?
also who is the guy getting sucked off?

Anthony Long
Anthony Long

Because they're not 2D.

Angel Harris
Angel Harris

because it's a dude wearing makeup in clothes that doesn't fit his body.

Liam Jones
Liam Jones

Are those pig songs added, right?

Luke Brown
Luke Brown

*sounds

Andrew Parker
Andrew Parker

It's not gay if you wear programming socks.

Josiah Harris
Josiah Harris

(checked)
It's not gay if you wear programming socks.
For the record, proper programming socks must be toe socks.

Henry Barnes
Henry Barnes

x86 has always been shit.

By 2020 the plan is to have BIOS removed. So you couldn't even write a self-booting disk/usb stick if you wanted.

The worst home computer architecture won the battle in the 80s. Now it's fully infiltrated and controlled.

It turns out open source software was a red herring. Linux was a distraction. No degree of security or autonomy over a Win10 user. The hardware was fully backdoored long ago. The compilers, including gcc are now nearly fully backdoored. If you're still using x86 for anything but jerking it and checking the weather you're a fool.

Jonathan Bennett
Jonathan Bennett

No degree of security or autonomy over a Win10 user
Wrong.
If you're still using x86 for anything but jerking it
One of the most intimate and publicly embarrassing, sometimes incriminating information there is. What else am I going to keep secret? My Stallman folder?

Joshua Ward
Joshua Ward

By 2020 the plan is to have BIOS removed.
The BIOS has a lot of legacy bloat. It should be removed and replaced with something more lightweight.

Kevin Green
Kevin Green

s/The BIOS/x86/

Thomas Long
Thomas Long

FROGGED

Angel Anderson
Angel Anderson

Well at least SPARC is alive again.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/19/oracle_sparc_m8_solaris/

Maybe someday RAPTOR will actually ship their POWER9 workstations also.

Isaac King
Isaac King

they'll ship around the same time star citizen does. atleast if you give them 10 grand you get a cool jpeg and an interactive model

Michael Cook
Michael Cook

i couldn't even afford a stick of ram for that

Cameron Robinson
Cameron Robinson

8 32 core 4 ghz procs with 8 TB RAM

Liam Martin
Liam Martin

Fucking hell.

Ryder Thomas
Ryder Thomas

The compilers, including gcc are now nearly fully backdoored.
Everybody go and read Reflections On Trusting Trust again. This user has, obviously.

Easton Campbell
Easton Campbell

It turns out open source software was a red herring. Linux was a distraction.
Linuxes were good until 2010 then suddenly went to shit due to systemd, Grub2, touchscreen DE's and other things. KDE and Gnome also went to shit.

No degree of security or autonomy over a Win10 user.
Be serious. Admittedly Windows can be hardened better than Linux. At least Windows firewall lets you block specific programs and not just ports for one thing. The 1980s called, they want their Gufw back.

The hardware was fully backdoored long ago.
True, proof is Intel ME and similar crap we know of.

The compilers, including gcc are now nearly fully backdoored.
For this claim do you have proof? "Nearly fully backdoored", as in "nearly full of shit"? Proof (file, line of code, refusal to patch, disassembled compiler) or it's opinion. I remember that VS2015 has some stupid telemetry crap that it adds to what you build, but that's been found out, fixed in VS2017 and GCC doesn't have that.

Josiah Lopez
Josiah Lopez

Linuxes were good until 2010 then suddenly went to shit due to systemd, Grub2, touchscreen DE's and other things. KDE and Gnome also went to shit.
Linux is what, 8 million lines of code not including the user-space?
OpenBSD is 4 million, but that includes the user space and X.
TempleOS is 100000 lines of code.
Forth can be 1000 lines or less, with the ANSI standard dictionary.

John Taylor
John Taylor

>I remember that VS2015 has some stupid telemetry crap that it adds to what you build, but that's been found out, fixed in VS2017.
Not surprised that an openplacebotard would be so gullible.

Justin Howard
Justin Howard

you're gullible
Insult attempt != argument. Proof please? No proof?

Evan Sanders
Evan Sanders

Not so fast, in current year Pajeets at MS are personally asking you why you Googled a specific framework and used it in your program instead of using MS's do-alike. There was a thread on this a while back.

Evan Adams
Evan Adams

Paranoia and rumor cheapens this thread.
Keep it tight with proof and shiet... so you're saying VS2017 still has telemetry added to user projects or what?

Matthew Bell
Matthew Bell

Paranoia and rumor cheapens this thread.

Keep it tight with proof and shiet... so you're saying VS2017 still has telemetry added to user projects or what?
LOL nice one, outing yourself so boldly.

This was covered here, the Pajeets had a log of what the programmer searched for. If you lurked you'd remember.

Lurk two years user.

John Miller
John Miller

Gigabytes of proprietary software is impossible to audit or trust. You are a hypocrite for trusting it but denouncing free software like systemd. You just want to push people to proto-proprietary software like the BSDs or all the way to M$ etc.

Hunter Jackson
Hunter Jackson

You are a hypocrite for trusting it but denouncing free software like systemd.
Oh fucking please. Everybody knows systemd is pure cancer by now. It's larger than most historical OS's and subsumes much of their function. It's too big and swiftly-moving to be audited.

Pretending that it's the only thing going on Linux is not going to get you anywhere here kid.

Juan Collins
Juan Collins

"this word is whatever I define it to be, and only that!"

Dominic Ross
Dominic Ross

implying systemd is possible to audit or trust
implying the extra freedom by MIT/BSD licenses is a Bad Thing(tm)
still no proof of VS2017 adding telemetry to user programs

This was covered here, the Pajeets had a log of what the programmer searched for.
Clarify because that's ambiguous. Searched for what, where? Searched the web page (the extension names) or his own open project (the code)?

VS2017 IDE telemetry can be disabled (choose no participation in VS Experience Improvement Program from Help->Send Feedback->Settings) or at worst it can be firewall blocked. Firefox is no better off, check it.

But I wasn't talking about VS2017 telemetry in the IDE however (and I'll laugh in your face when systemd adds telemetry of its own, enabled by default, in addition to leaking DNS to Google). I was talking about covertly adding telemetry stubs to user programs compiled with it, which VS2015 did but VS2017 doesn't do anymore... unless of course you have evidence to the contrary? Which I'd like to see? Pretty please?

Everybody knows systemd is pure cancer by now. It's larger than most historical OS's and subsumes much of their function. It's too big and swiftly-moving to be audited.
I have the following conspiracy theory and I'd like your opinion: what if systemd is designed as a secondary kernel and its only purpose is to increase the attack surface on all Linuxes that use it? Because it sure as hell isn't just an init system anymore. It's a high-level kernel now. If its purpose would be just to help user apps interface with Linux that would be an insult to Linux. So naturally I think its real goal is evil.

Lincoln Young
Lincoln Young

implying the extra freedom by MIT/BSD licenses is a Bad Thing(tm)
The last MINIX convention got cancelled for lack of speakers, despite being inside every single AMT chip Intel-Aviv has sold for the past what, 15 years? This is what cuck licences do to projects.

Robert Jenkins
Robert Jenkins

Minix has only been part of ME since 11.0 which I believe came out with Skylake.
MIT/BSD licenses protects developers, but the GPL protects users

Ryder Cruz
Ryder Cruz

MIT/BSD licenses protects developers
Ostensibly false

Easton Fisher
Easton Fisher

This is really depressing because I just built a very expensive Xeon server as a home lab :(

Hudson Perry
Hudson Perry

an attacker with physical access to a machine can do bad things with it
shoo-shoo, what a fucking surprise! breaking news everyone woo-woo

Connor Johnson
Connor Johnson

Developers are also users, that's the whole point of the GPL.

Jason Hernandez
Jason Hernandez

No, developers are not users. They are two distinct and different states. When you are developing you are not using. When you are using you are not developing. While a developer may at times be a developer and at other times be a user, he is never both at the same time.

Hunter Gutierrez
Hunter Gutierrez

WE'RE UP TO FIVE MASSIVE INTEL EXPLOTS NOW
And normalfags aren't aware of even a single one. Why haven't we been using this whole spectre shitfest to spread FUD?

Isaac Martin
Isaac Martin

it was used pretty much to it's full extent. people don't care until their bank accounts are empty.

Sebastian Phillips
Sebastian Phillips

I tried pressing ctrl+p on my amt-enabled laptop (with tpm perma-disabled in bios) and nothing happened, what's missing?

Gabriel Reed
Gabriel Reed

you are not developing allah is developing

Sebastian Robinson
Sebastian Robinson

Didn't you hear him? He said PLAYSTATION.

Michael Bell
Michael Bell

so i guess this guy is basically fucked now right? the fbi can just use a spectre attack to break into his encrypted unpatched macbook.

Gabriel Adams
Gabriel Adams

So, what are developers using to develop the software users use?

Brandon Ortiz
Brandon Ortiz

So a commie pc?

Camden Bailey
Camden Bailey

Nope still gay

Jaxson Baker
Jaxson Baker

No, more like a #2 Phillips screwdriver. A purpose built tool designed to restrict the user without restricting its use. Forget about PCs and say "Hallo" to the special purpose computing appliance.
Imagine a painting tablet that only runs a single digital painting application, A technical drawing table that can only run a single CAD application, the IRS tablet that only runs your income tax form, a video cutting station that looks like an old film editing station and only runs a simple video editor, and a video FX station which only runs a selection of video processors, and electronic book that will only display a single ebook format, etc. pp.
I don't agree with the post you replied to, that this will spell the death of the generic work station or home computer, but I do see this as a desirable future for consumer computing. It would solve all of the security problems and most of the usability problems with consumer computing. And it would put a clear barrier between "us", the people who actually create shit, and "them", the people who leach off our creations.

Samuel Davis
Samuel Davis

To expand on the last sentence: It would be like the 70's again. When only the military, scientist, big corporations and nerds who really cared had computers.

Colton Kelly
Colton Kelly

I keeps happening and getting worse.
Year of AMD, maybe ?

Sebastian Flores
Sebastian Flores

moar

Connor Hughes
Connor Hughes

We just need more secu-crypto researchers looking for massive exploits.
Then blackmail the said companies to remove such exploits otherwise threat them to crash the market by making the exploit public. You may also bluff if you like.
This kills the botnet
The problem is they'll make even stronger botnet instead.

James Clark
James Clark

Wat? Shit's just gonna get more bloated and full of bugs. Look at the shit languages they're pushing now, like Rust and Go. They're just excuses to write shit code and pretend the language will fix all problems. No you dense fuckers, only writing good, solid, simple code will fix anything. Terry Davis got the fucking message, and nobody else did apparently. So there's gonna be shitloads of botnet and bugs in the future.

Julian Taylor
Julian Taylor

Ideas
I kind of agree with that user.
Multitasking was a mistake.

How about cartridges?

Stack:

Cartridges (ROM)
games, software
CPU
Cartridges (R/W)
operating systems
storage devices
Hub (optional)
multi-monitor, multi-networking, multi-channel audio, etc.
connect/split peripherals, other hubs and catridges
Peripheral1 (1 as in I/In)
keyboard, speakers, wifi
storage devices but not recommended
Peripheral0 (0 as in O/Out)
HW:
screen monitor
cartridge and peripheral slot(s)
SW:
busybox-like with basic network stack - can be a cartridge slot if you want your own custom or hardened network stack or if you want none at all

Cartridges in general are throw-aways. Makes it easier to discard the botnet.
cons:
theoretically slower than mobo design
power is clusterfuck
standards will be a clusterfuck

^this idea is Public domain DO NOT PATENT

Henry Brooks
Henry Brooks

only writing good, solid, simple code will fix anything.
Yeah, there's too many people out there born in the mid 70s.
So there's gonna be shitloads of botnet and bugs in the future.
Just immune system at work. Good load off of my mind and x86_NSA_3PLA can go die finally

John Cruz
John Cruz

Why is this garbage even sold to home users who don't need or want it? Is it because NSA are the admins now?

Yes, there is no other reason to add this to consumer CPU's in which 99 percent of the time won't be used, unless the NSA believes you're a journalist that needs to stop publishing information that it doesn't want you to publish.

If you want to know something even more interesting there is a so-called ‘halt and catch fire’ instruction that was discovered inside Intel's' x86 processor. This instruction, executed in ring 3 from an unprivileged process, appears to lock the processor entirely. To rule out kernel bugs, the instruction was tested against three Linux kernels and two Windows kernels, yielding the same results. Kernel debugging with serial I/O and interrupt hooks appeared to corroborate the results. At the time of this paper’s publishing, the vendor has not been provided sufficient time to respond to the issue.

If you would like to see all the undocumented x86 instruction sets your CPU has you can try it with sandsift here https://github.com/xoreaxeaxeax/sandsifter

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