Marvel has a long way to go to unfuck themselves.
"X-23 is Wolverine and you nerds gotta deal with it?"
They are so deep down the fuck hole that they will never be able to unfuck themselves.
“Wolverine, obviously.” “Oh cool!,” I gush. “Yeah, Laura Kinney is so complex and layered –” “What? Huh? Who?” “Laura! Wolverine…” I trail off. “You meant Logan, right?” “Of course.” He grunts defensively. “Who is Laura?”
“X-23. She’s the new Wolverine.”
Shit that never happened: The Article
X-23 isn't a complex and layered character. Her introduction as the "new Wolverine" comes out of fucking nowhere, anyways. As a character she never liked Logan and never wanted anything to do with superhero bullshit. Slapping the ol' yellow spandex on her is just as transparent an attempt to court the tumblr audience as it was when they made Thor a woman.
They can fuck off, X-23 isn't even X-23, much less Wolverine.
This is their new virtue signal, isn't it? Anytime anyone anywhere mentions Wolverine, and means Wolverine, they can pretend to be confused and cry their little SJW eyes out over it.
Its been this for awhile.
That article 100% angry vagina clickbait. It's not worth discussing.
Got to synergize with the cosplay. That shit is free advertisement.
I couldn't find much cosplay of FemThor though. Maybe it's because the costume looks like shit.
Still bugs me how badly they used Spider-gwen
and though she’s basically physically indestructible, she’s increasingly emotionally open
Friendly reminder even Daken Dark wolverine was a far better written character than X-23. And that is just pathetic. Daken has no character trait beyond he hates his dad and being Pansexual.
I don't see why any character would want to take up the mantle of Wolverine. What part of Wolverine's legacy would another character be so desperate to keep alive?
"she’s smart, tough, resourceful, funny"
Since when those are X-23 personality traits? Isn't her whole character based around her not being able to function in society due to lack of social skills? That description seems like just your average snarky millenial girl who makes pop culture references and complains about manspreading… like Hellcat, Squirrel Girl, the new wasp.
and being Pansexual.
And the Champions! And basically any female and male hero from today's Marvel.
I couldn't find much cosplay of FemThor though. Maybe it's because the costume looks like shit.
Something I noticed is that you can include porn as well, just like Battleborn's Rule 34.
Whor is such a shit character in general its impossible to find decent porn of her. Spider-Gwen on the other hand has plenty of that, despite being a stronk independent womyn, ever since Frank Cho ruined the character for SJWs.
And yet, it seems to be a recurring situation that I encounter men who are defensive and angry that their favorite macho, masculine character has passed his mantle to a girl.
There are multiple layers of "shit that never happened" in this.
The author knows its not going to remain like this forever right? Comic books gladly change characters genders like they change their socks.
that second image
Did someone just take bruce timm's supergirl and put spidergwen's costume on her?
The more i look at it, yeah.
hmph. the concept of "toxic masculinity" again.
Women only like the concept of toxic masculinity until men actually start sharing their feelings, and tell them that they don't want women to radically upturn all their favorite and childhood icons.
They only like your feelings if they are feelings they like and approve of.
By doing this they ruin two characters at once
They're stepping up their game
More like going back to what works.
Has anyone seen 'Logan' and is it SJW?
implying (((Marvel))) has any intention of ever unfucking themselves
They have box offices to hit, goy.
Has anyone seen 'Logan'
Nigger, A: it doesn't come out for the next couple days and B: quit asking us whether if object C is object D, seriously its like all you care about.
So was there any reason she only has 2 blades per hand instead of 3?
Laura has many of the same qualities, so if you really miss your grumpy loner with a heart of gold, look no further!
Then why fucking change it? She bitches about toxic masculinity, but suddenly its okay if a woman exhibits the same behavior? I wish they'd stop making up contradictory bullshit to hide the fact that they're mental children who couldn't get past the "boys are icky" phase.
I don't quite remember.
I thought it was because three blades would look awkward on her significantly skinnier arms.
Barbara Holm should be sent to a Muslim rape camp.
Something to do with that particular bone claw mutation is effected by the lack of a Y chromosome that then causes the "middle claw" to come out of her foot instead.
Also means she kicks more (because in comics all shapely woman kick in combat right?) and can do stuff like climb up vertical walls with all four limbs blades extended.
Notice that these people would throw a bitchfit if you ever complained about 'Toxic Femininity'
Looks that way
Actually, I know I'm going to get flak for saying this but Whor's costume is probably the best thing about her
It's the Whedon influence + Marvel can only write one character
Almost a carbon copy.
Why couldn't Wolvie's movie sidekick be a hot 80's retro jap Jubilee?
I already miss the old X-23.
X-23 used to actually be a really strong female character
Damaged childhood, stand-offish, steely and cold, but slowly developing into a better person over the course of her story
Has actual interesting relationships with Logan and the rest of the X-men
A personality not typically seen for female characters
A fuckin' badass who snikt's and bubs all over the place
But not anymore, feminists, in their endless bid to make everything 'diverse' by ensuring that everything's the same, has turned her into yet another 'lolsoquirkyXD!!!11!' meme-spouting cunt, with a legacy title that she doesn't need or deserve, effectively ensuring that she's indecipherable from ninety percent of Marvel's new female cast of characters.
Good job feminists! Another win for womyn!
It's a pretty low bar for there to be a "best" for. Her costume is not complete shit, so her characteristics and dialogue make it appealing by comparison.
It was nice to have an autistic female character that I could identify with, but the oppressive Marvel shitlords appropriated her into something more mainstream.
must be nice to be a contractor in new york with all that structural damage she causes.
hell every super hero causes.
Did we ever storytime Damage Control?
IIRC, there was something about Logan/Daken/X-23/Sabretooth mutants being like a sub-group, and the males are supposed to fight offensively and hunt, and the females have foot blades to fight defensively, like a cat. Or something.
Logan/Daken/X-23/Sabretooth mutants being like a sub-group
I remember one storyline where it turns out Wolverine is descended from a subgroup of mutants that evolved from wolves and he has to fight the progenitor of this group who's name is lupus or something. Essentially Lupus is the progenitor of wolves that evolved into human like people and looks like Wolverine but much bigger and wears a massive coat.
Somewhere a marvel exec is sweating at these dumb hipster who failed to bring in money are pushing old customers away.
It's either the greatest job in the world or the worst job in the world.
Great: You're never short of work, there's always money to be made.
Worst: Your hard work is as lasting as a stick-on tattoo.
Kind of like working for Marvel, except without the money.
First they changed Wolverine from being short
And I did not speak out because I was not short.
Then they changed Wolverine from the side role
And I did not speak out because I do not like side roles.
Then they changed Wolverine from a cuck.
And I did not speak out because I do not like cucks.
Then they changed Wolverine into a woman and there were no fans left to speak out for him.
changed Wolverine into a woman
It wasn't the first time but the intentions behind it now are just bad.
Who remembers Wolverina?
First they changed Wolverine from being short
He was always short, user.
They've flip-flopped on his height. A) because Jackman's over six foot and B) because they clearly weren't comfortable with the idea of one of their biggest heroes being a '5'3 manlet.
tfw no autistic homicidal loli
Wasn't there a scene where the "new" Wolverine talks to Cap aboiut not wanting to be labled Wolverine becasue she's not him?
He was always supposed to be a angry hairy person
I never said they made him hairless. I said they flip-flopped on his height
Eh, blame the artists.
Apparently the shitposters in the thread.
it seems to be a recurring situation that I encounter men who are defensive and angry that their favorite macho, masculine character has passed his mantle to a girl.
At this point when someone tells me a girl or a minority is taking up a previous hero's mantle all I can do is shrug and say "Again, huh?". Honestly, anyone who cares that much about the issue should have stopped reading marvel after about the fifth time they did this.
After that they'll target the other medians too.
So I google the author of this shit and get exactly what I expect.
has a webcomic
and a patreon
this is her first article
This is shit tier bait, but I hope she gets ovarian cancer all the same.
I'd fuck her.
you'd be surprised. I was out with some friends at a book store the other day and one of them saw the cover for Civil War 2 and asked me who the guy fighting Iron Man was. I said it was a she and her name was Captain Marvel. She looked at the cover and goes "that's a girl?" I said yes, and she instantly went "that's dumb". People recognize stupid stuff when they hear or see it and sometimes they can't bottle up how they feel… and Marvel has no shortage of stupid, especially with the worst parts of Tumblr basically writing for them.
I mean, think about explaining anything going on in the MU at the moment and I bet you it wouldn't be hard to imagine the person you are explaining it to saying something negative about the current state of everything. This chick just got triggered because somebody called something she liked what it was, and she can't accept the fact that people aren't willing to just accept what's new.
For a minute I thought she had braces.
If she doesn't she certainly needs them
just deal wiv it
With a knife?
Marvel has a long way to go
to before they unfuck themselves
Specifically, Judgement Day (the /christian/ kind or the Terminator kind) or perhaps the heat death/collapse/brane-failure/vacuum-decay-erasure of the universe (whatever comes first).
Beautiful user. Thank you or posting that.
Moment you know the story never happened:
I was on a date with a guy
Who fucking wrote this shit, a 12 year old?
I've seen it, its not SJW.
Its a road trip starring Xavier who's gone senile, old Wolverine whos healing factor has gone to shit and X-23 which is mute for the majority of the movie.
Dude, Spider Gwen is a shitty character, the favoritism come from the attitude of the comic (which is somewhat punkish and has a lot of use of color) and the fact that people love the costume, not the character.
Anyone got those two pics comparing her older self with her Whedonized self?
From the comments:
Great article. I totally agree with you. Changes like X-23 are nice. Since they stay changed. Because storylines like Superior Spider Man where the old character came back sucks…
Didn't nu Lobo end up going crazy and started acting and looking like classic Lobo?
mfw the whole fanfic of Slott still having "fans".
So funny, Holla Forums.
SpOck might have worked better as an alternate universe story… I mean, at least then we wouldn't have known Peter would be back at some point.
You think they've realized that they don't have an endgame planned?
Assert that representation matters more than content or quality
Insist that all popular and current characters be representative of a narrow minority of english speaking potential customers in a certain age range
This means specifically making every black and gay
…Even though blacks only account for less than 15% of the total population and gays even less, and the general socio-economic makeup of those groups are not typically comic buyers anyways.
Cut than in half again because they want every character to be black, gay, and female
Insist this is a good thing, because these groups are finally get representation, which somehow means everyone who is black, gay, or female should start buying comics
except they don't, because the reason they didn't buy comics in the first place because they didn't like comics, not because enough of the characters weren't like them in some superficial way.
Now straight whites males are underrepresented in currently published comics
"hey, what about us?"
"lol go away fuccboi you've have 7 decades of straight white male heroes! It's our turn now!"
straight white men stop buying comics, mostly because they're all shit and all the characters are obnoxious and unlikable.
No one wants to buy America Chavez or Lady Thor or X-23 Wolverine merch.
No one wants to see Marvel movies without the characters they like in them
SJW idiots blame it on the dudebros.
Since they stay changed
Any bets on how long until X-23 reverts to her original version as an autistic feral child, seeing as that's the version in the movie and thus the version that everyone knows?
I'd bet more money on them giving her little clone sister the limelight now because she's basically little girl X-23. Though really this sort of logic only works for the MCU movies. Marvel doesn't give a shit what Fox does so they don't promote them with the comics reflecting the movies.
They'll revert her eventually, especially if Logan turns out to be a big hit.
Doubtful. They pushed Deadpool more after his movie but they didn't make him like the movie version.
Would be real easy to justify it too. Just blow her up real hard so that shes forced to regenerate as a younger feral version because the damage was just that extensive.
Makes no sense but it's not like that's stopped them before.
/pol/ please go and stay go.
The movie version wasn't much different to the comics version.
With X-23, firstly people, who've only seen the film, aren't going to know that the all-new, all-female Wolverine is X-23, and therefore won't buy it on that basis. Secondly, if they do buy it they're not going to keep buying it if they got interested in X-23 as a borderline autistic feral child and get a Joss Whedon-esque Ms Quips-a-lot instead
It'd be funny to see the reaction of someone who saw the movie and wants to read modern x-23 only to learn she's now a Whedon quipping hipster chick.
It's a much, much more narrow demographic than that. Let's look at the numbers.
Blacks are 10% of the population
Homosexuals (including gay, lesbian, transgender, etc) are only 3-4% of the population.
Gay men and lesbians hate eachother, so we're talking about half being alienated either way.
Trannies account for (seriously) 0.003% of the population.
Now you could say this is meant to appeal exclusively to women in general, because it's true women like gay shit, but a very specific idealized version of gay. This doesn't appeal to women in general, it appeals to feminists. What percentage of women identify as feminist?
Now of that 14%, how many are the sort that don't really care or know anything about feminism? How many are like Christina Hoff Sommers? How many are sex positive?
Basically their entire perspective is based on the belief that tumblr's claims of 300 million unique monthly visits is true, and it was revealed after yahoo bought them it's not even a tenth of that, and on top of that what percentage of their viewership is just porn?
On top of all that, there's another very important difference between the male and female demographics, if a guy likes something in youth odds are he'll still be into it in adulthood. Guys don't stop liking X-Men or Ninja Turtles or whatever, even if they're not active about it they still find it cool, they're likely to buy something related to it marketed to their age group.
Girls go through phases about all their media. The music they listen to, the books they read, even the youtube channels they watch. The people who for example hate Onision most are girls who used to obsessively watch him when they were younger.
SJWs can never be happy with any media that makes concessions for them, it's never enough and they will always demand more. The second you do anything for another demographic they'll boycott. We saw this with Batgirl despite her de-sexed redesign and the writers calling her a social justice warrior, they still threw a fit about the Killing Joke cover. The feminists who *claimed* to buy Fem-Thor were quick to boycott the second Thor got another hammer. SJWs liked black female Iron Man until another artist drew her exactly as her original design looked, and suddenly she was "over-sexualized".
So basically, progressives were hired to try to save money on writers, and subsequently they insisted the market cater entirely to a demographic that pretty much only exists in fractions while actively attacking everyone else, which is only praised by people who don't really purchase the material, who see being catered to at all only as a sign of weakness and reason to demand more while still not actually buying the product, and who even if they were buying the product will never be loyal consumers and will eventually "grow out of" their desire for that product.
not fully grown
encased in adamantium
Because storylines like Superior Spider Man where the old character came back sucks…
I'm still pissed that they didn't give Ock a proper clone body instead of making him fat, again. I wanted to see him becoming a hero to make Anna-Maria proud of him. Instead he just came back as a cunt who hadn't really learned a damned thing.
And now there's THIS fucking shit. Are hoods to the 10s what trenchcoats and pouches were to the 90s?
Ben Reilly always wore his hoodie, though.
I thought Ben was the villain in the last story arc though?! Why is he a hero now?! The hacks at Marvel strike again.
Also his suit is a 2099 ripoff and his hood makes no sense. Look at it. His neck is even drawn in front of the hood there. It's like the hood was sown right at the top of his back or something.
Slott pls, your whole "spock" fanfic was bullshit.
My god, he sewed a mullet into his costume
That's one of the things that always fascinates me when you really dig into it. You keep breaking down these groups and you realize that there's pretty much no audience for this shit except pompous hipster bloggers who care more about the color of a character's skin than the content or quality of the book they're in.
Yeah, you're right. There's one more factor I forgot to mention, even among the already miniscule numbers, very few actually give a shit about identity politics. It seems obvious to us, but progressives did a ton of studies years ago they completely buried because they prove every single one of their assertions wrong. One example is a study titled something like "He could be a bunny rabbit for all I care." They interviewed various minorities and in particular transgender people, anyone who checked as many boxes as they possibly could, and when asked if representation mattered to them, virtually every person said no.
Form the perspective of a modern Tumblrina trans-otherkin-pseudomastadon-whatever, anything that normalizes them makes them less of a special snowflake. If people stopped oppressing them, then they wouldn't be special anymore. If they are represented in pretty much all forms of media, then they wouldn't be special anymore. And there's nothing they hate more than that. They LOVE the oppression attention they face for being so special.
Why is he a hero now?!
The solicits suggest he's still crazy, just more of an anti-hero now. But those should never be taken at face value. At least Peter David is writing and Kaine is going to appear in it
Ben Reilly always wore his hoodie, though.
I knew he wore a sweatshirt, but I don't remember him keeping the hood up. But let's be real for a minute… this is because of Spider-Gwen.
Slott pls, your whole "spock" fanfic was bullshit.
You know damned well me and the other user (well, me, anyway) aren't slot. I just preferred Octopus to Peter. Not going to lie, I was horrified at first, but then I realized Peter was a complete fag crippled by guilt and lacking in any kind of delegation or forethought. In his own way, he's as egomaniacal as Otto because Peter seems to think only he can do it all, and he really can't.
My hope was always that Ock would find himself in a cloned body without all the flab and with his tentacles in a redemption series. I loved the original Thunderbolts and would have liked to see something with him and Anna-Maria doing pretty much what they've had Peter doing lately (and doing a shit job of it).
I'm totally not Slott…
But I just kinda realized Peter is a fag
And the fat sociopath scientist was way cooler
It's not that it was self-insert wish fulfillment that the fat loser gets to take over the handsome muscular guy's life…
I just wished that in the end my self-insert would wake up in a muscular clone body while maintaining his powers and not have to actually do any work to improve his physical condition.
And here's the cherry on top: Suppose you've got a small collective of quad-racial, trans, non-binary, otherkin, queer, polyamorous comic readers who will actually buy books and may be interested in reading a comic about a superheroine that's "like them"… And then they pick up, say, Hellcat, or the new She-Hulk book, or "America"…
Now imagine you're one of these people and you want to read books about interesting characters going on heroic adventures and saving the world… and instead, what do you get? You get She-Hulk sulking and doing mundane shit. You get characters you know re-imagined as hipsters who spend all their time in coffee shops gossiping about dumb shit. You get books where a superhero with cosmic-tier powers decides "I'm going back to college!" instead of saving the universe.
I can't imagine a more insulting slap to the face than being indirectly told by some obese degenerate that the kind of entertainment that fits my assorted list of labels is bland soap opera mundane hipster shit.
How do you give someone who isn't fully grown an adamantium skeleton? Does it actually grow with them? Also wasn't their dumb thing in that Logan movie that eventually he stopped healing because the adamantium was poisoning him? How is that supposed to work out for the little kid?
Marvel have backtracked on the new Scarlet Spider costume. By the end of the first arc, he'll be wearing his old 90's duds again.
This is barely any better.
Is Bagley actually drawing the book?
I don't think they've ever actually explored it. But Wolverine's supposed to be like 5'3' himself, so I wouldn't be surprised if the girl just stopped growing.
Well then, it's a worth a pirate in the very least
Whedon didn't write nuX-23 IIRC
Have they given her a full metal skeleton in Logan or something? In the comics only her claws were adamantium; they made it a point that she had to remove her claws and then surgically re-insert them whenever she lost an arm.
No, but that's not what user meant. There's plenty of hack authors that write every female character as a Whedon knock off. They usually exhibit traits including, but not limited to:
sarcasm in place of actual jokes
tough but still "girly"
lots of pop culture references
usually talk down to men
nuX-23, Batgirl, Mockingbird, Kate Bishop, and Carol Danvers under Kelly Sue all fit the bill. There's more I haven't read that I'm sure qualify.
Note: If you add in some kind of laziness, uselessness, or slobbishness you get "so relatable"/quirky tumblr tier characters like Leth's Hellcat.
stay mad, Slott
he thinks Marvel can unfuck itself