Current Year costumes

Brody Moore
Brody Moore

As comics are slowly starting to get out of it's social justice phase, what with DC Rebirth underway and Marvel recently announcing they're planning on being less political, a lot of the Current Year costumes are no doubt going to be reverted too.

A character changing their costume either to fit alongside a social justice narrative or just to generally ring in a new era is usually met with chagrin, but I have an honest question. Were any of them good to begin with or even better than the original?

Ayden Bell
Ayden Bell

Of fucking course they changed her costume to be like the show. I never liked Elektra anyway.

More on topic, I don't really think there was a good suit change that was made because of SJW narrative pushing. Plenty of good ones that are just new updates on previous looks. I liked Moon Knight's new personality as Mr. Knight.

Levi Jones
Levi Jones

I think Mr. Knight was the most stand out one to me. I'm not too familiar on Moon Knight, so take this as a lame opinion, but regular Moon Knight seemed kinda generic to me. I much prefer the suit.

Gavin Allen
Gavin Allen

Were any of them good to begin with

Not really, no. They all looked too generic, like dancer bodysuits that are too baggy.

Austin Hill
Austin Hill

Eh, its alright

Henry Brooks
Henry Brooks

As comics are slowly starting to get out of it's social justice phase
Are you out of your mind? The big 2 aren't going to stop with that any time soon, DC is just doing it in a way that's good. There have been popular minority and female characters for years, because they don't just give them a new book and plaster "#1" or "IT ALL STARTS HERE" on it. You need to introduce them in other books, and then if they're popular enough give them their own thing. The only character I can think of that DC has done the "#1" thing with is Kenan Kong, and he's been pretty popular so far because they're characterizing him. And that's all characters really need. You just have to want to buy the next issue because you're invested in the story.

But that said, why do you care about this? There will always be bad books, just don't read them. If one of the big 2 is making only shit, then just don't read any of their books. DC was doing it from 2011 to 2016, and now it looks like it's marvel's turn to take a little vacation in the garbage. It's a colossal waste of time to spend hours of your life bitching about bad comics that you pirate.

You can also expect to be disappointed if you think any comic book company is going to start pandering to the right just because Trump won. It's just not going to happen.

Angel Hall
Angel Hall

Agreed and that's coming from someone who likes Moon Knight's regular look.

It's really one of the few costume redesigns that comes to mind that I like. It's by no means amazing though.

Ryan Taylor
Ryan Taylor

Spider-Woman
Ghost Rider
Ms. Marvel/Warbird
Scarlet Witch
bad

Jackson Hughes
Jackson Hughes

Bad redesign thread? Can't miss the chance to insult this abomination.

This was from 2010, yet already looks decades out of date. It's particularly bad if you compare it to the costume she's had since her debut in the early 80s (pic 2), which still works with only minor alterations (pic 3).

Brody Harris
Brody Harris

Learn to read, he's talking modern day redesigns.

Jeremiah Cook
Jeremiah Cook

Fuck, that shit tugs at my autism.
Every member of Power Pack has a costume that follows the Cyan (Jack), Magenta (Julie), Yellow (Katie), and Black (Alex) of the CMYK printing process
Retard reboots it but makes Julie's costume red, because magenta is too "girly" for a girl
To add insult to injury, Julie is now a slutty "bisexual" with a bare midriff who doesn't actually date any men
mfw

Also:
If Julie is 17ish and Alex is now a slightly younger teenager studying with Reed Richards, and Jack, Katie, and Franklin Richards are all still young kids, how will Marvel react when I take a shit in their coffee maker?

Kevin Jones
Kevin Jones

Black (Alex)

And before a fellow autist starts carping at me about Alex's white suit, I was talking about when he's all gravved up. Besides, the white represents the paper it's all printed on.

Parker Jackson
Parker Jackson

Female Ninja Assassins designed sexually to distract targets
We will never get fun like that again. I remember when DoA costumes were banned in tournaments because they were distracting.

Tyler Hill
Tyler Hill

dat elektra costume
Isn't that changed just to fit with the netflix series?

Kayden Gray
Kayden Gray

Dat pic
What's that about? Is that Fu Manchu?

Sebastian Watson
Sebastian Watson

I can't fucking wait for Black Cat to actually have tits again.

Jose Sanders
Jose Sanders

It's the reveal at the end of the most recent new-superman. It was a 10/10 homage.

"Without me, there would be no superheroes"

Kevin Watson
Kevin Watson

Why is Strider the new Elektra?

Juan Morgan
Juan Morgan

How do you guys feel about this Punisher outfit? I kind of like how the skull emblem is made thru his pouches and armor.

Parker Rivera
Parker Rivera

To me the worst current year design Marvel has shat out has to be Spider Woman.

Her costume was so great and iconic, then SJW cried over that variant cover and Marvel changed her costume.

Jason Bennett
Jason Bennett

I never liked her original costume, but her new one is still bad. It's like some cosplayer's attempt to make a spider-themed outfit out of whatever ordinary clothes she happened to be able to buy.

Adam Jones
Adam Jones

As comics are slowly starting to get out of it's social justice phase
You're not reading comics, are you?
Every year they "stop with the SocJus". And yet when you read the comics, you see that they're doubling down just as hard as they ever were.

Brayden Ross
Brayden Ross

But surely they mean it this time!

Josiah Cook
Josiah Cook

DC is just doing it in a way that's good
Surely he's joking, surely he's not being this retard-
Kenan Kong is a good character
Well at least I don't have to guess anymore.

Aiden Bailey
Aiden Bailey

"Hans Zimmer scored" Punisher
Well, that sounds shit. But the overall design is kind of what I'd like from Punisher. He looks like a tacticool innawoods guy, or a prepper.

The aviators could lead to some really great moments, too. I also like the idea of attempting realism in his weapons and gadgets, even if they fuck that up. We'll have to ask /k/ when it's out.

The biggest problem I can see is that he won't have a distinctive silhouette any more, and for me that's what you need from a comic character. Ideally with no context, you should be able to see the outline of a character (with some minor detailing perhaps) and immediately recognise them.

Brandon Reyes
Brandon Reyes

No this happened already in the first Marvel NOW stuff.

Logan Anderson
Logan Anderson

Was it any good?

Luis Hughes
Luis Hughes

Is this a troll post?

Regardless, I'll bite. All of their new non-white characters are done really well. They're introduced in other books as side characters so people can get used to them. That's the biggest problem with marvel's SJW approach - people don't like their replacement characters because they don't know them. Any characterization they have is just superficial, wheras Kenan has gone through significant development in only 8 issues.

The only exceptions I can think of for this are Black Wally and Not-Robin. Black Wally's kind of fun now that he isn't an edgy kid who grew up on the streets anymore, and they brought back real Wally, so I think he should get a pass. But Duke has no character.

You clearly don't know that though since you haven't been reading rebirth.

Nathaniel Morales
Nathaniel Morales

Eh… it was okay. Lot of errors in the art. Which was the weakest part. But Frank is drawn real well. Worth a look online. Avoid the series after it. Also the ending coincides with the Secret Wars crap as the world ends. Just so you don't get confused by the ending.

all of the new non-white characters are done really well

That's complete bullshit.

Leo Flores
Leo Flores

you're wrong just because
Were you molested by Dan Didio when you were younger or something?

Angel Clark
Angel Clark

I just wish DC would get rid of Barbara's horrible hipster outfit.

Jackson Bailey
Jackson Bailey

Agreed. I hate to say it but the costume they used for the New 52 when it first started was good.

Owen Cruz
Owen Cruz

I like black wally now that I know real Wally is back. Ginger, happy go lucky Wally West is my Wally and always will be.

Agreed.

I want the black Batsuit, and yellow boots back. She was a badass then (including the first part of Nu52) and I think she can be recovered in the future.

Carson Hughes
Carson Hughes

Didn't Punisher team up with some Marines to fight terrorists in that run?

Connor Price
Connor Price

it's los angeles
Punisher LA
Frank purges illegal alien criminals so Trump doesn't have to

It's sad current year Marvel can't do that story.

As for the costume itself, the colored mag pouches for skull teeth is neat, but I'll have to see it from an angle other than straight on before I can if it works. Stacking mags like that there hurts the ability to go prone (It's why SMERSH and ALICE were suspender based. Modern stuff only isn't because you have to have a plate carrier for armor anyways)

Kneepads, particularly built in ones so they don't go sliding around, and trigger discipline do say the artist has a semblance of what he's doing, unlike the CURRENT YEAR costume designers who think a leather jacket is good athletic wear.

Cooper Jackson
Cooper Jackson

In the run he was captured and sold off to a Cartel. They tortured him then threw him into a jail with a captured marine. They planned things out and made their escape.

Frank stayed behind to draw the Cartel and Crossbones (who showed up to collect Frank for other employers) away from them. It later showed that one of the marines wears a Punisher patch on his uniform while in the Middle East.

Joseph Wood
Joseph Wood

Sounds badass I'll go check it out.

Chase Peterson
Chase Peterson

I actually don't think Ms. Marvel's new outfit is terrible.

I will say that the dyke cut was fucking horrendous, though. But the outfit? It's not too bad.

'Good' is probably a bit much. I think it would be fine if Ms. Marvel hadn't only been covered up cause muh oversexualization. But design-wise? I've seen a lot worse in the form of Spider-Woman and others.

Mason Allen
Mason Allen

I don't think SMERSH was ever a personal load carrying… thing.
I know this because I used to be a /k/ fag.

Jonathan Foster
Jonathan Foster

I kinda like it because it still looks like some Silver Agey superhero. The problem is when they really make it so it's easier to cosplay.

Jose Nguyen
Jose Nguyen

As comics are slowly starting to get out of it's social justice phase
err, this is not happening

Luke Moore
Luke Moore

I can't not see her as a prego anymore.
She's ruined forever IN MY MIND!!!

Evan Gray
Evan Gray

All of their new non-white characters are done really well.
no, fuck you they are all shit

Sebastian Thompson
Sebastian Thompson

Hi /pol/ how's it going?

Jason Taylor
Jason Taylor

Duke sucks but black Wally is pretty good.

Elijah Reyes
Elijah Reyes

I don't see it. Black Wally is just black kid with barely the same wit or charm as old Wally. He's not bad. Just bland and pointless.

Daniel Cook
Daniel Cook

maybe you could provide us with an example of a good colored character introduced recently by dc?

Brayden Evans
Brayden Evans

I will be honest, i am just really mad about what they did to dr. fate. From proud man with cute tsundere wife fighting germans, monsters and having probably the best costume design to limp wristed sandnigger, whose books are completly plain and uninteresting
somebody should backstab this faggot offscrean

Justin Brooks
Justin Brooks

Cyborg as a league member.

Evan Ward
Evan Ward

thats a huge stretch and you know it.

Alexander Evans
Alexander Evans

Black Bolts new outfit sucks. Its needlessly overcomplicated.

Adrian Adams
Adrian Adams

Oh, you know, when you're the demoted cuck king of a race of imaginary mutant freaks, you need to have the most practical outfit with which to channel the electromagnetic energy that's channeled from the tiny tuning fork upon your brow.

#projectrooftop
#tacticool

Kayden Thompson
Kayden Thompson

character is defined by youth and titans membership
lets make him a JLA founder

Still don't understand why they didn't use Black Lighting.

Jaxon Green
Jaxon Green

This style of rig. Likely isn't the original name

Jacob Richardson
Jacob Richardson

Nobody cares about Black Lightning. They should have just used John Stewart

Austin Anderson
Austin Anderson

The entire age with the Power Pack kids and their age is fucked. Alex is college age or a college graduate or something but doesn't seem like it. Julie was 17 during the Loners mini, then I think slightly older (like 18 or 19) during Avengers Academy. Then there was a canon Power Pack story during Civil War II that said she was 16.

Aaron Russell
Aaron Russell

Retcons and messy continuity.

Jaxon Anderson
Jaxon Anderson

John Stewart has multiple Green Lanterns before him.

Black Lightning really makes the most sense when he's portrayed as at least slightly older than Superman/Batman's adventures. Early 30s instead of mid 20s goes a long way to selling him as a teacher with history as an athlete (and explains some his dated stuff).

Jacob Stewart
Jacob Stewart

Yes. The worse part of these types of designs is you just know Marvel wanted it designed in a way that they think will work on film. Except, production team never go with their stupid ideas. This is a set pic of Black Bolt in the upcoming Inhumans TV show. There might be a mask, but there's trace of this shit design.

Lucas Hernandez
Lucas Hernandez

Honestly that looks bland in comparison to the shitty comic design. Not sure which is worse.

Nathan Anderson
Nathan Anderson

John Stewart has multiple Green Lanterns before him
But he's known. Black Lightning is not only completely bland but completely unknown to normalfags.

Wyatt Fisher
Wyatt Fisher

And Blade wasn't?
If the execution is good, it makes everything else work.

John Martinez
John Martinez

Nobody even knew Blade was a fucking comic book movie. That's how well Blade did at getting people to buy fucking books, which is the point of rebooting the whole DC continuity to begin with. To get people to buy comic books.

Cyborg is known to normal people, John Stewart is known to normal people. Black Lightning is not.

Connor Butler
Connor Butler

Ahem. Only people who watch Teen Titans know who Cyborg is.
Normies could care less about John Stewart. If you're lucky and they read comics when they were a kid they might be surprised "Green Lantern is black now?".

Before the current wave of movies, the only heroes normies could recognise were Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman, Spider-Man, and The Hulk. If you're lucky, Captain Marvel and The Phantom.

Juan Nelson
Juan Nelson

Wolverine and Spider-Man were pretty well recognized. Especially Spider-Man.

Austin Ramirez
Austin Ramirez

The Phantom
Captain Marvel
X-Men, Captain America, Fantastic Four, Aquaman, and Flash were all more popular than them before movies came. Most normalfags that were familiar with Phantom and Captain Marvel more than X-Men are now in their sixties.

Brandon Gomez
Brandon Gomez

People know who Black Lightning is, they just think he's called Black Vulcan.

Asher Evans
Asher Evans

that design is shit and I can't even tell it's a shitskin

Xavier Smith
Xavier Smith

I kinda like it because it still looks like some Silver Agey superhero.

…because it is? It's the original Captain Marvel with the colors flopped and a sash instead of underoos. Oh, and a bit more detail, because we aren't in the age of CMYK anymore.

Kevin Myers
Kevin Myers

I like it ok, it makes more sense for the character. However I was really unhappy in Daredevil S2 where the armor he uses is obviously designed specifically to be colored in with the punisher skull. Hopefully they nix that.

Xavier Lopez
Xavier Lopez

Bland is infinitely worse in my eyes. It's a sign of either trying to pretend you aren't a comic book story, or shows a complete lack of imagination.

Jonathan Ortiz
Jonathan Ortiz

this post again by the same "DA BIG 2 IS BOTH EVIL XD" faggot

At least try not making your posts sound the same ya fuckin dum-dum

Bentley Cox
Bentley Cox

Where's my "menacing french techno" scored Punisher

Lincoln Wood
Lincoln Wood

People barely remember Super Friends. Aside from Geoff Johns, which is probably Cyborg is on the Justice League in the first place.

Justin Jenkins
Justin Jenkins

Normies could care less about John Stewart. If you're lucky and they read comics when they were a kid they might be surprised "Green Lantern is black now?".
Nobody read Green Lantern as a kid. Over here in England my mum and and my uncle would read Batman, Superman and Spider-Man but never Green Lantern. Most of the people I've talked to who even know Green Lantern are convinced he's black because of Justice League and were most likely surprised by the terrible Ryan Reynolds film.

Thomas Cox
Thomas Cox

lanterns are a single person and not a corps

Jackson Campbell
Jackson Campbell

You and I know that but normal people don't

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