Coke or pepsi?

Andrew Ortiz
Andrew Ortiz

So now that both companies have publicly come out in favor of (((diversity))) (Mozilla firing CEO and Google firing Engineer).

what is the best browser to shitpost with?

is there a not-so-autism/"I like to open webpages and have content displayed" alternative?

All urls found in this thread:
https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium
https://files.catbox.moe/50283h.png
Lucas Johnson
Lucas Johnson

No.
Firefox for non-autistic
Recompile Chromium for slightly autistic
Brave for ancap teens

Wyatt Howard
Wyatt Howard

Opera.

Leo Rodriguez
Leo Rodriguez

What the retard above said. Chrome but give your data to the Chinese government

Cooper Martin
Cooper Martin

Social justice faggots
vs.
Social justice faggots that are operating a huge spy network that makes them powerful enough to stand side by side with world governments

Hmm, really touch choice, right?

Xavier Sanders
Xavier Sanders

I reject your controlled opposition and choose a pale flavored moonshine instead of coke or pepsi.
Also browsers like lynx or links work just fine if you don't want to use the fucking botnets.

Blake Thompson
Blake Thompson

One day /g/...
One day we will have an open browser that was made for the true autiste. One day we will have a browser that has no telemetry or tracking or logging or identifying. One day we will have a highly anonymous browser which will always look the same to any server it contacts, no matter the user configuration. One day we will have not just an open and free browser but a set of unix style independent tools which pipes and forks data in a way that can be unified into a complete browsing environment. One day we will have a security-first efficiency-second distributed system for rendering HTML/CSS-over-HTTP where Javascript is optional and minimal by default, yet fully extensible and open. One day such a system will be written under a covenant to only focus on the technology and never EVER give mind to any issue related to human socio-biological and/or econo-political issues. That day is not today, but it will happen. Its the inevitable conclusion to the nightmare we have now.
We already have some of the tools, HTTP1/2(s) is already solved via curl. There are many standalone DOM rendering tools. Everything else just needs to be developed.

James Collins
James Collins

Firefox has it's problems but (((chromium))) is botnet. It's not FOSS, it automatically downloads proprietary blobs after you have installed the free base.

DO NOT USE CHROMIUM!

Firefox needs a tweaks to be uncucked uncuck. Pale moon is firefox with no major tweaking necessary.

Jayden Lee
Jayden Lee

Firefox has it's problems but (((chromium))) is botnet. It's not FOSS, it automatically downloads proprietary blobs after you have installed the free base.

DO NOT USE CHROMIUM!

Firefox need tweaks to be uncucked uncuck. Pale moon is firefox with no major tweaking necessary.

Jackson Peterson
Jackson Peterson

TBB is not very different from what you describe user

Adrian Baker
Adrian Baker

Iridium + Palemoon masterrace

Jonathan Johnson
Jonathan Johnson

The web that this HTML only browser would connect to doesn't exist any more. Botnet is all there is.

Eli Watson
Eli Watson

Iridium is cucked. The philosophy of Iridium is that you can search through 4 million lines of code and de-botnet it. Destined for failure.

Jaxon Hernandez
Jaxon Hernandez

Maybe I'm retarded but assuming code isn't intentionally obfuscated to sabotage attempts to create a fork that augments privacy, couldn't search terms or a basic search algorithm weed out the vast majority of botnet shit?

David Hernandez
David Hernandez

Your assuming webkit does not have any backdoors obfuscated as innocent code. This is jewgle's baby we are talking about you know?

Connor Martinez
Connor Martinez

I just want something that doesn't hog resources like a fucking glutton.

Julian James
Julian James

I usually fetch web pages from other sites by sending mail to a program (see git://git.gnu.org/womb/hacks.git) that fetches them, much like wget, and then mails them back to me. Then I look at them using a web browser, unless it is easy to see the text in the HTML page directly. I usually try lynx first, then a graphical browser if the page needs it (using konqueror, which won't fetch from other sites in such a situation).

Jaxon Jones
Jaxon Jones

Midori is probably the closest you can get. too bad it sucks

Michael Taylor
Michael Taylor

Use Icecat

Nolan Flores
Nolan Flores

I choose Fanta w3m

Lucas Taylor
Lucas Taylor

Question from someone who does not know how browsers work: why is it so hard to make a new browser? I understand that HTML, CSS, and Javascript engines are hard, but given those as separate libraries, how hard would it be to tied them together into a new browser instead of making the millionth fork of Firefox? Are those engines tied too closely to the existing browsers?

Christopher Long
Christopher Long

HTML parsing isn't too hard, but the issue is displaying it, especially on non-character-based screens (i.e. anything using a graphical interface instead of a terminal), since you have to calculate the optimal position and size of each element based on the neighbour elements, the parent, the children, and some other properties like font size
Then there is CSS, which adds to the difficulties of displaying elements a bunch of semantics, like animations, but even more simply the fact that some elements might change their measurements after the DOM is built (e.g. different stylesheet for mobile and desktop), so you have to find an efficient way to recalculate the optimal position and size of each element, 60 frames per second at least
And then javascript appeared. Now it's not really the fact that some elements might appear, disappear, change position, parent, children, and some other properties, at any time (you already have an optimized engine built for CSS), but now you have to implements a whole runtime for an interpreted language that can't be compiled to bytecode, and you have to make it fast (slow loading pages, anyone?)
Not to mention, the javascript runtime is massive and full of quirks caused by legacy
Of course, this is only the front end, you also have to consider the back end: when a user visit a page, do you get it from the network, or do you use a cached version to reduce network usage and speed up displaying? Same for images.
But more importantly, you have to properly manage HTTP, be it sessions, redirects, or certificate issues for HTTPS
That's what it takes to build a browser. And I'm barely scraping the surface, there's a lot more going on behind the scenes

Wyatt Flores
Wyatt Flores

I just use whatever browser works best for me and ignore politics.

Elijah Flores
Elijah Flores

Apathetic people like you are part of the problem.

Josiah Hill
Josiah Hill

Stormfront hasn't developed their own browser yet? What are they, a bunch of retards or something? :^ )

Jordan Jackson
Jordan Jackson

are they a bunch of retards for not developing their own browser?
Yes, just like Holla Forums, /g/, and every imageboard that exists.

Logan Roberts
Logan Roberts

Fuck off back to /pol/, Adolph.

Aaron Reyes
Aaron Reyes

get back in the oven, jude

Jose Moore
Jose Moore

Suck a cock, tardboy.

Lucas Flores
Lucas Flores

Just fuck already you faggots.

Carter Gutierrez
Carter Gutierrez

You first, punkboy.

Daniel Nelson
Daniel Nelson

The hard part is implementing the zillion compatibility hacks for non-standard-compliant websites, which make up something like ¾ of the web. You need to reimplement every quirk and bug of every version of every major browser released in the last 15 years, and then implement bullet-proof heuristics to choose which of those bugs to enable on which site. Make it anywhere short of perfect and users start whining that your browser is broken because muh jewflix/kikebook/whatever doesn't work and it's your fault because it works on every other browser.

Jace Smith
Jace Smith

I'm more of a rockman.

Asher Cooper
Asher Cooper

/trash/index.html
/reddit/index.html
/oven/index.html
/auschwitz/index.html
/gaschamber/index.html
/bog/index.html
/leftypol/index.html
so many trash boards for you to choose from, yet you choose to come here, why?

Jordan Allen
Jordan Allen

The problem is that guys like OP aren't capable of doing anything creative, skilled, or tecnologically advanced for themselves. All they can do is use what others have produced to shitpost, whine, and complain. I guess they'll just have to withdraw from the technological world completely.

Tyler Phillips
Tyler Phillips

This is what happens when /pol/tards start their retarded crap on boards where they don't belong.

Justin Bailey
Justin Bailey

surf, or uzbl.
Autism, but graphical autism.

Kayden Garcia
Kayden Garcia

Go back to /leftypone/, faggot.

Xavier Gray
Xavier Gray

Pale moon is firefox with no major tweaking necessary.
Much more importantly, it hasn't gone down the SJW path that Cuckzilla chose. It's driven by an small band of rebels led by an eccentric leader for over 10 years now. PM has remained true to Mozilla's original glorious hacker roots.

Austin Rivera
Austin Rivera

GTFO /pol/tard. You're too stupid for Holla Forums.

Isaac Watson
Isaac Watson

Muh /leftypol/
Sure proved him wrong with another pointless off topic /pol/ tier shitpost, didn't you?

Levi Edwards
Levi Edwards

the singular largest group on this website that keeps it alive
saying they don't belong everywhere on here
this entire website is ours, the holy ideology of Adolf Hitler shall spread into all corners of the world. You can leave if you don't like it.

Luis Howard
Luis Howard

Lol. Fuck off back to /pol/, you brain-damaged, inbred cocksucker.

Noah Turner
Noah Turner

I can't tell you how many times I've read absolute trash like this where you try to justify your worthless shitposting. I'd almost be annoyed if it weren't such blatant retardation. Everyone laughs at you whenever you post somewhere other than your shithole and the best you have is to double down.

Thomas Nelson
Thomas Nelson

/pol/-tier shitpost
the "shitpost" he does not like is of higher quality than 99.99% of the posts his kind makes
fuck off back to /pol/
But user, we ARE in /pol/. If you want to NOT be in /pol/ type a different domain in your web browser.
Thanks for biting. :^)

Isaiah Hughes
Isaiah Hughes

the singular largest group on this website that keeps it alive
I don't know I think /v/ is pretty big too. Certainly both play a part in keeping what was once a grand bastion of freedom afloat. Sadly, w/o Copypaste around it will never be the same.

Anyway, keep pushing back SJWtard mentality wherever it raises it's ugly head user, and that will be good enough.

Landon Adams
Landon Adams

shitpost
quality
Why are you even here? Genuinely asking since it's obviously not to discuss technology.

Carter Johnson
Carter Johnson

Waterfox and Pale Moon seem good. Haven't played with IceCat yet.

I honestly thought I was back on half with all these "fuck off /pol/" replies.

Justin Fisher
Justin Fisher

thread about SJW browsers
<whines about rightwing posts
What the fuck did you expect?

Jordan Clark
Jordan Clark

Shitposting is worthless without an audience.

Nathan Scott
Nathan Scott

saving a thumbnail
newfag

Anthony Morgan
Anthony Morgan

That image is so small because I downloaded it a long time ago. It might even be older than you are.

Sebastian Long
Sebastian Long

I don't know I think /v/ is pretty big too.
true but there's a lot of overlap between the groups
Why are you even here? Genuinely asking since it's obviously not to discuss technology.
I usually lurk but I can't help but bait when I see brain-dead /leftypol/ posting

Ryder King
Ryder King

I was only pretending to be retarded

Fuck off faggot

Parker Cruz
Parker Cruz

I came here to check out other browsers.
Honestly I'm here from /mtt/

Adrian Myers
Adrian Myers

true but there's a lot of overlap between the groups
Fair enough I frequent all three, /b/ and others tbh.

Grayson Murphy
Grayson Murphy

Brave needs developers to overtake the SJW tech empire.

Nathan Smith
Nathan Smith

Tried palemoon last year..webm crash to desktop
tried palemoon 10 minutes ago...webm crash to desktop.

Jack Kelly
Jack Kelly

Works fine here, user. Maybe you should try to stop being a pedophile and start using Windows™ 10©, also Ajit Paijeet was right, in 99.99% of American homes, you don't need fast internet.

Landon Taylor
Landon Taylor

We need a degoogled chromium. It has a far superior codebase but has a lot of phone homes and backdoors.

Levi Green
Levi Green

Wish granted, user! https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium

Lincoln Lee
Lincoln Lee

Restarted with all addons disabled..webm works...Lavafox theme was the cause of
the crash..

Jaxon Morris
Jaxon Morris

holy ideology of Adolf Hitler
You forgot his honorific The Ninth Avatar

Jackson Morris
Jackson Morris

Chromium is a shit browser on it's merits ignoring all the (((jewgle))) issues it has.

Julian Russell
Julian Russell

Hi Stallman

Asher Moore
Asher Moore

Mozilla firing CEO and Google firing Engineer
Hmm, that's a hard question…
Which one of them was doing more of the actual work?
I guess firing perfectly fine engineers is worse.

Ian Rodriguez
Ian Rodriguez

7up or Sprite?

Jayden Martinez
Jayden Martinez

Im now browsing with qupzilla thanks to this thread.

Plz dont billy

Jonathan Taylor
Jonathan Taylor

qup is patrician tier. try rekonq too.

Jonathan Gomez
Jonathan Gomez

Daily reminder that Eich was never fired from Mozilla. In fact, they wanted him to stay as a Mozilla chief officer.

Asher Scott
Asher Scott

waterfox?

Angel Reed
Angel Reed

Try out Waterfox
its not accepting cookies even though I asked it to
Trying to change any of the settings in this page does nothing, it simply sets it back to what the dev set again
Haha WHY? If I'm messing with those settings, I am because I have something better. Exploding Cookies leaves cookies I want to use up while deleting those I don't want after a few seconds, meanwhile your thing is just forcing me to not use them at all which is annoying.
What the fuck, man.

Eli Richardson
Eli Richardson

aye comrade.

Gabriel Clark
Gabriel Clark

So when is fishing trip?

Wyatt Baker
Wyatt Baker

Pale Moon is the only good Mozilla-derived browser nowadays famalam.

Kevin Lee
Kevin Lee

You're not part of the problem, you are the problem.

Juan Lewis
Juan Lewis

Politics is meaningless. What matters is whether the browser works or not. If it doesn't work, then I will choose the best browser that is closest to what I want.

Luis Perry
Luis Perry

Being apolitical is what got us in this mess. You're apolitical, meanwhile the SJWs you just allowed in the project are not. You hold a vote to decide whether to keep meritocracy or to accept/reject patches based on privilege checks. They win, you move to other project and the cycle repeats.

Brody Rodriguez
Brody Rodriguez

Politics is meaningless. What matters is whether the browser works or not.
Politics is meaningless
I want something that just werks

Aiden Mitchell
Aiden Mitchell

I don't think he ever said it was HTML only.

Jordan Price
Jordan Price

Eich resigned. He's also the fucking faggot who gave us Javascript and presided over plenty of braindead decisions at Mozilla long before he left.

Justin Hughes
Justin Hughes

I only drink (((Trakky)))

Oliver Russell
Oliver Russell

The moderation here is just fabulous. And by fabulous I mean there is none. This may as well be /b/.

Lucas Campbell
Lucas Campbell

They are a bunch of narcissists who make as turn as they can (e.g. addons, binaries) proprietary and contribute to the google monopoly by using webp.

<PMfan> Comrades
<PMfan> Palemoon useragent is very unique, you know.
<PMfan> Easy target for fingerprinting.
<PMfan> Friend called me in the evening asking if it was me who visited his site in the afternoon.
<PMfan> Because “someone”, he told me, “had PM useragent”.
<PMfan> So using “Firefox compatibility” mode means nothing in terms of privacy, right?
<+khronosschoty> Firefox compatibility is not intended as a privacy feature AFAIK
<PMfan> khronosschoty: https://files.catbox.moe/50283h.png fingerprint report
<+khronosschoty> you can use extensions to change that if you want
<+khronosschoty> however if enough Pale Moon users want more user stuff we might get it, idk.
<+NewTobinParadigm> there is no such thing as a browser that can't be tracked
<PMfan> ppl on #tor at irc.oftc.net would disagree
<+NewTobinParadigm> PMfan: the people at tor are pedophiles
<PMfan> tor is a solid community used by various ppl, your statement is not relevant
<+NewTobinParadigm> tor is a solid community of peodphiles druggies and script kiddies
<PMfan> tool could be used for good and for bad, like knife
<PMfan> i see tor community develops security patches outside ff branch
<PMfan> for example, javascript timer precision reduction in order to make side-channel attacks harder
<PMfan> where is your curiosity?
<+NewTobinParadigm> If you want to harden Pale Moon against being tracked for buying drugs and child pornography you are gonna have to do it yourself
<+NewTobinParadigm> We expect users to use the browser legally
<PMfan> security/privacy patches are aimed to protect illegal activities only, right?
<+NewTobinParadigm> you can leave now
<PMfan> you decided to speak againt patches tor develops
<+NewTobinParadigm> you are speaking broken english
<PMfan> true, but you are not speaking my native tongue at all, so we meet in the middle
<+NewTobinParadigm> This is an en-US channel
<+NewTobinParadigm> If you have misconceptions between security privacy and user take it to the forum
<+NewTobinParadigm> This isn't the place to discuss it
<PMfan> gosh, Tobin comes, tension rises
* NewTobinParadigm is now known as CaptainTobin
* ChanServ sets mode: +o CaptainTobin
<@CaptainTobin> tread lightly
<PMfan> same scenario all over again
<@CaptainTobin> is it?
<PMfan> yep, i talk with people about PM related things, you come, you say something athwart, then you command to shut up
<@CaptainTobin> k
CaptainTobin sets mode: +b [email protected]

Josiah Gomez
Josiah Gomez

back to /leftypol/index.html

Gabriel Reyes
Gabriel Reyes

so who is this tobin fag?

Ryan Anderson
Ryan Anderson

Okay, but what is the ideal browser? Like if I'm a paranoid fuck, but still want to browse the web like the piece of shit I am, what would be the best option?

Justin Perry
Justin Perry

see

Hunter Moore
Hunter Moore

Tor Browser, but if the choice is between Firefox and Chrom* then Firefox.

Brandon Morgan
Brandon Morgan

one of the pale moon devs

Robert Smith
Robert Smith

Somebody fount a /leftypol/ discord a while ago where they organized a shilling operation, some of those might be them.

Asher Rodriguez
Asher Rodriguez

I'm gonna guess what you mean by "organized a shilling operation" is "some guy was posting about how he was posting on /pol/", right

Benjamin Hernandez
Benjamin Hernandez

nice damage control

David Baker
David Baker

So i'm right. Good to know.

Oliver Cooper
Oliver Cooper

shill detected, nice try, kike

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