What's Holla Forums's opinion on Stallman and the free software movement?I'm formerly...

Connor Hall
Connor Hall

What's Holla Forums's opinion on Stallman and the free software movement?
I'm formerly a /g/entooman but support for the FSF has all but died on that board, is this a good place to migrate?

All urls found in this thread:
http://www.draketo.de/english/free-software/howto-hurd-140-chars
https://betanews.com/2017/01/06/windows-10-makes-thirsty-drinkers-wait-while-it-updates-the-fridge/
https://koolkidsklub.tech/hebe
https://koolkodsklub.tech/~se7en/articles/open_source.html
https://koolkidsklub.tech/~se7en/articles/open_source.html
Sebastian Sullivan
Sebastian Sullivan

is this a good place to migrate?
This is just more of the same. Go to nextchan.

Liam Jackson
Liam Jackson

What the fuck that picture op. Also since this is a datamining thread. I personally support the ideas of stallman's movement but not the foundation itself due to legal crap. Like how everything copyrighted under gpl v3+ can be turned into any liscense wanted at the whim of FSF. That's great for fixing issues but horrible should (((state actors))) buy the foundation and its board members and then proceed to change the gpl4 to say a closed liscense.

Caleb Torres
Caleb Torres

We have a bunch of idiots here. It's mainly due to the fact that Jim has turned this place into his personal politisperg blog, along with the Infinity Next drama and takeover of Holla Forums.
I dunno where everyone went, or if they're still here, but the quality has declined a lot.

Julian Gray
Julian Gray

The problem are people like you who don't give a fuck about any sense of community and chose to just tell newcommers to fuck off instead of making quality posts yourselves

Isaac Edwards
Isaac Edwards

Look m8, FSF has died everywhere.
Stallman is way too extreme, and spent more time "activism-ing" than writing code.
Their kernel is a joke.

It's a dying era. Move on.

Samuel Anderson
Samuel Anderson

I like Stallman and the FSF, but I'm afraid that Stallman is too extreme now and then.

Don't take this the wrong way though, I do agree that you should only use free software, and I really don't give a fuck if big companies can make money with creating free software on a level that they can with proprietary. But maybe if Stallman focused a bit more on how to get big companies into free software that would the movement a lot more than being a purist about it. Focus on the things that are easily achieved, and then achieve more; instead of focusing on the end goal.

I do agree with him on the end goal though.

Jayden Nguyen
Jayden Nguyen

What's Holla Forums's opinion on Stallman and the free software movement?
I support most of the ideas of RMS and the FSF about the free/libre software movement, aka proprietary software/hardware, DRMs and software/hardware patents should not exist.
Thankfully RMS is autistic enough to separate the Free/libre software movement from other political movement, but that's something normies can't understand.
Has for the FSf a lot of us are worried about SJWs that are infiltrating part of the hacker community and we are seeing it devolve into shit discussion about things that were never are still isn't relevant of technology.
For what I know the Top people that are a public/known menace for free software are:
-Christopher Allan Webber
-John Hsieh
-Francis Rowe
The knows/public people who are against the madness are:
-RMS
-John Sullivan
-Stephen Mahood
-Ruben Rodriguez

is this a good place to migrate?
This board is mostly free/libre software discussion which tends to devolve into free software community discussions and license threads.
So is it a good place ?
Stay for a bit and you'll see if it's to your taste.
If not then try to change it by proposing new subjects.
I think it's still better than 4chan because at least I can post via Tor here (and avoid part of cloudflare too).

What the fuck that picture op.
Not op.
This pic is one of a IOT fridge that needed an update.
aka pure cancer/botnet.

Also since this is a datamining thread.
Wut ?

Like how everything copyrighted under gpl v3+ can be turned into any liscense wanted at the whim of FSF.
What ?
The + means that it inherits the more recent license if there's one.
It's also used if the new introduced license brings incompatibility with license who doens't have the +.

This

FSF has died everywhere.
No it hasn't it's just overshadowed by opensource people.
Stallman is way too extreme
Please explain why.
and spent more time "activism-ing" than writing code.
Nothing new he dedicates it's time to activism otherwise only open source would remain.
The last line of code that he did was a decade ago do you think that it would be a wise decision for him to come back ?
Their kernel is a joke.
Their kernel is the rare ones that proposed a sane architecture and has always open source people use the easy path instead of taking the sane one.
Almost install the hurd it's working now.
http://www.draketo.de/english/free-software/howto-hurd-140-chars
It's a dying era.
t.open source/bsd supporter

Nathan Long
Nathan Long

Stallman is too extreme
Please elaborate.

Charles Long
Charles Long

stallman is too extreme
not him but I think this has to do with his views on pedophilia.

Logan Miller
Logan Miller

Can't speak for the whole board, but rms has my respect. The man believes in free software and lives by it despite many inconveniences.
Stallman is way too extreme, and spent more time "activism-ing" than writing code.
Someone has to do it. rms still wrote more useful code than anyone in this board.
Their kernel is a joke.
The Hurd was necessary before Linux, but with it there's no need for Hurd. That's why the FSF doesn't put more effort in it.

Ethan Green
Ethan Green

his views on pedophilia.
Lack of context has always.
Each time he talk about these subject it in another country were the legislations are different and if you follow closely his views they have changed.
Also like said earlier
Thankfully RMS is autistic enough to separate the Free/libre software movement from other political movement, but that's something normies can't understand.

Jeremiah Williams
Jeremiah Williams

That's why the FSF doesn't put more effort in it.
Indeed.
But fortunately some people are on it tho.

Jackson Ward
Jackson Ward

This pic is one of a IOT fridge that needed an update.

Haha, that's not actually the case.

A few days into 2017, and Jackie Stokes, Director of Incident Response at Intel Security, has brightened our day with this image of Windows 10 updating on a fridge, captioned "I just wanted some water…"

She tweeted the picture yesterday, and it quickly went viral with 23,883 retweets and 40,445 likes at the time of writing.

Of course, things aren’t entirely as they might seem because it isn’t a real Windows 10 update. The fridge in question has a screen on it designed to allow owners to add their own pictures, and rather than images drawn by a child, this particular fridge owner has used a screenshot of Windows 10 updating.

https://betanews.com/2017/01/06/windows-10-makes-thirsty-drinkers-wait-while-it-updates-the-fridge/

Kevin Barnes
Kevin Barnes

Do you mean, RMS doesn't sperg out in a pure wave of emotions every time someone mentions pedophilia like society deems acceptable to do?
RMS knows very well pedophilia is irrelevant to the state of affairs of our society and prefers to focus his passion on fighting other, more urgent problems, such as the war on freedom from the Botnet, or the ecological catastrophe our planet is suffering.

Juan Perez
Juan Perez

The FSF is mostly leftist bullshit.
The GPL is the best license.

Mason Perry
Mason Perry

stop tripppfagging

Nicholas Mitchell
Nicholas Mitchell

Check em

Landon Lewis
Landon Lewis

t.open source/bsd supporter
Nah they're actually dead.

Nolan Hernandez
Nolan Hernandez

one of the last organizations to defend free software and internet liberties
mostly leftist bullshit
Well, ok.

Nathaniel Allen
Nathaniel Allen

Nice

Connor Thomas
Connor Thomas

You're right, it's actually leftist genius. Ignore that poster

Andrew Hernandez
Andrew Hernandez

I respect RMS. Unlike faggots who say things like "stallman is 2extreme4me". Honestly it seems most people are complete faggots, and that's what makes RMS look good.

Carter Roberts
Carter Roberts

needs JS
screen keeps flashing between normal and dim
images don't load
slow as shit
worse than 8ch

Thomas Ortiz
Thomas Ortiz

Retard.
Use https://koolkidsklub.tech/hebe for a really Private™ experience. Only text, no bloat.

Kevin Anderson
Kevin Anderson

GJ on the ssl so quickly. (((Let's encrap))) I assume?

Ian Reed
Ian Reed

literally none of those things are true, but as long as it keeps kids like you out, whatever

Logan Long
Logan Long

Yeah, it's Let's Encrypt!™.
SSL Certificates are a Jewish extorsion mafia anyway like DNS, so I might as well get a free one.

Jordan Brown
Jordan Brown

I've written my viewpoint on Open Source vs Free Software here:

https://koolkodsklub.tech/~se7en/articles/open_source.html

Joseph Lewis
Joseph Lewis

Sorry, link correction
https://koolkidsklub.tech/~se7en/articles/open_source.html

Sebastian Murphy
Sebastian Murphy

stallman is too extreme
millenials bls go

Jace Garcia
Jace Garcia

okay go back there then. i dont want to talk to people who think it's normal for web pages to be as slow as twitter and tumblergramwhatever

Michael Cox
Michael Cox

Blame Web 3.0 cancer for that.

Nice trip there, faggot.

Cooper Diaz
Cooper Diaz

for a really Private
Private
On the clearweb.

Retard
This

Jordan Hernandez
Jordan Hernandez

GPLv4 would become an additional license, not a replacement. You could still get it as GPLv3 with all the freedoms it provides, that's irrevocable.

The real danger would be an overly permissive GPLv4. Restrictions can't be added, but they can be removed.

Andrew Bell
Andrew Bell

Restrictions can't be added
Same has GPLv2 and that's why V2 and V3 aren't compatible.
The real danger would be an overly permissive GPLv4
This but I don't think it will happen.
Restrictions can't be added, but they can be removed.
Actually what's worrying is the laws since they are constantly or can evolve.
MS has spent billions into trying to find loophole and change the laws in utah to abuse the GPL software.

Hudson Kelly
Hudson Kelly

website has graceful degradation
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE THIS IMAGEBOARD HAS JAVASCRIPT (you)
point out it can be turned off, just like on Holla Forums
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THIS IMAGEBOARD HAS JAVASCRIPT JUST LIKE TWITTER REEEEEEEEEEEEE (you)

Landon Smith
Landon Smith

it didn't work with JS off (I guess I should have tried enabling cookies or "referer" [sic]), and when I enabled JS it was slow as fuck
being this mad that nobody likes shitty imageboard

Evan Smith
Evan Smith

FSF is important, but will never reach the mainstream. Open source on the other hand already has. I have a t400 with libreboot and trisquel as my distro. My last piece of non free software I have is my smart phone. Dont know if I can ever go back to a dumb phone though.

Angel Martinez
Angel Martinez

I fully support the FSF and the free software movement. Most people in these boards don't.
People here only use "Linux" (notice how they even refuse to call it by it's name: GNU) because it's free and they're too contrarian to use a more mainstream operating system.
Most of them refuse to use distributions endorsed by the FSF (or Debian with no non-free repos) and instead use Arch because it's "harder" and gives them bragging rights (or so they think.)
Discussion? There's very little discussion about free software or software in general. Most threads are petty fights and comparisons of X vs Y (be it browsers, operating systems, companies, programming languages, etc.) Or "the SJW" (whatever the hell that means.)
In fact, just add "cuck" and "(((" to the filter and you will instantly hide over 50 % of replies because there's nothing but buzzwords and shit flinging here.

Juan Martinez
Juan Martinez

needs someone to explain him why Stallman is too extreme
This is when you know arguing is useless.

Brayden Robinson
Brayden Robinson

Not just leftist bullshit. Leftist (((identity politics))) bullshit.

https://stallman.org/notes/2013-nov-feb.html#03_February_2014_(Straight_White_Male)

Lincoln Morris
Lincoln Morris

Pretty sure most people here use Debian or derivatives and Gen/Funtoo.

Christopher Wood
Christopher Wood

Stallman is an old autistic Jew who lives in a lefty bubble. This kind of delusions is to be expected. He is not a SJW though, he is consistent in his views. You probably still can red-pill him on some matters.
And some stuff he got right already.
https://stallman.org/notes/2016-jul-oct.html#02_October_2016_(Slavish_loyalty_to_Israel)

Jaxon Sanders
Jaxon Sanders

hurr durr no community
The fucking community in this shithole died two years ago and retards like you are raping the decrepit corpse every time you think you're hilarious for making a shitpost with jewish meme arrows or unironically making a thinly veiled software recommendation thread because you have fewer brain cells than a fucking rodent.

Daniel Gomez
Daniel Gomez

I don't think you can talk him out of anything he's already convinced about. I sent him a mail once and he sounded incredibly stern and stubborn.
He is not a SJW though, he is consistent in his views.
He can have some SJW views, and as long as they're few enough, they probably won't be inconsistent.
I mean, his views on straight white males are already pretty illogical.

Gabriel Stewart
Gabriel Stewart

I mean, his views on straight white males are already pretty illogical.
He is a boomer, the 80s has never ended for him. Back then being a homo could indeed complicate your life a bit and his sentiment would have some point. Nowadays suicide, poverty and college admission statistics disprove his claim completely.

I remember he had defended some Australian anti-abortion organization when they got shutdown by feminists. A SJW would never have done that.

David Hall
David Hall

I once asked him his opinion about a license that had a clause against straight white males. He said he didn't like it because it's racist.
He summarizes an article that says straight white males have it easier, but he doesn't extend that to anything particularly SJWy you may associate with that opinion.

Bentley Lopez
Bentley Lopez

Sstt-st-stallman-sama i-i-is t-t-t-t-th-the o-o-o-onnly g-g-g-g-g-g--good j-j-j-j-jew nya!
He m-m-m-m-might have s-s-s-some op-p-p-p-pinions t-th-th-that are o-off b-b-b-b-b-b-but he's a hero! NYA!
B-b-b-but I'm s-s-s-s-s-s--scared of w-w-what w-w-w-w-will hap-p-p-p-p-p-pen t-t-t-to th-th-th-the FSF w-w-when he g-g-g-g-goes. nya -_-

Jacob Morgan
Jacob Morgan

Wait stallman is a kike? No way in fucking hell. Like his views on control of coputer hardware line up with such. But where is the money-changing? And the connections in high places?

Caleb Sanders
Caleb Sanders

The GPL is leftist and the philosophy of the FSF is the same kind of leftism.

Josiah Martin
Josiah Martin

It's almost as if people could have their own opinions on things instead of being reactionary idiots following a hivemind. 🤔

Robert Bailey
Robert Bailey

I can make the same argument about the GPL being "right" on the economic spectrum and a bastion of libertarian free market ideals.
By your logic, imaginary property is inherently anti-free market and thus leftist. You just lost the argument, btw.
Try fucking off to /pol/. You're the very cancer that's talked about in this thread.

Carter Lewis
Carter Lewis

Join us now and share the software!

Gavin Ramirez
Gavin Ramirez

off yourselves

Michael Martin
Michael Martin

my anti-business license made to subvert private property and make everyone "share" their work for free isn't leftist communist cancer

Jack Brooks
Jack Brooks

nice post dude

Grayson Fisher
Grayson Fisher

This is when you know arguing is useless.
Says the user who gives no argument.
Your sentence is typical of those who try to win a debate via emotions instead of making an argument.
So please tell why RMS an extremist ?

Thomas Jackson
Thomas Jackson

He summarizes an article that says straight white males have it easier
It's easier for white people to do shit in white countries, and it's easier for black people to do shit in black country etc...
And that's normal, people of having the same language, culture, skin etc... attract themselves and preffer to stay in group.
And that's something that internet communities can completely avoid if wanted.
But we still attract each others in other ways.

Chase Wood
Chase Wood

The GPL is leftist and the philosophy of the FSF is the same kind of leftism.
The GPL is [insert political party that I oppose and hate] and the philosophy of the FSF is the same kind of [insert political party that I oppose and hate].
Listen m8 the GPL has only one goal provide the user full freedom on ones computing.

my anti-business license
False, any business can sell or offer service with software under the GPL.
If dell,HP and all the other companies would use RYF hardware an only 100% free software the only people who would suffer from this is MS and Nvidia (if they don't change) otherwise the whole market would be freed and competitors would have to make true innovations or offer good services.
They just cannot lie without being busted openly.

to subvert private property and make everyone "share" their work for free
False, with free software you get true ownership of the hardware that you buy.

isn't leftist communist cancer
Isn't it ironic that the proprietary software developers call us communists? We are the ones who have provided for a free market, where they allow only monopoly.
-RMS

Ryan Lopez
Ryan Lopez

You'll be free hackers.

Ryder Torres
Ryder Torres

No user is ever forced to share anything. Only when you decide to become a developer or distributor -- when you sell or give away copies of a modified version of GPL software -- are you required to share your modifications with your users. If you never share your modified versions with anyone, you're free to keep your source code modifications to yourself.

Zachary Rogers
Zachary Rogers

The GPL only forces you to share code to those who use your product. You can sell binaries and set up an email/ftp server for those who want to download it.
b-b-b-but they can share it!!!! Cumunizm!!!!!!!
Then why are Windows and Photoshop the most pirated pieces of software? Proprietary software doesn't stop people from sharing the program, it only stops people from using your code.

Aaron Peterson
Aaron Peterson

If what user says is right, he doesn't have his own opinion. All he does is follow what some fiends of him said back in the 80s. If he bothered to try to form his own opinions nowadays, he'd encounter a very different reality where his old views don't work anymore.

Justin Rodriguez
Justin Rodriguez

Your sentence is typical of those who try to win a debate via emotions instead of making an argument.
And your ad hominem here is a fallacy.

Leo Green
Leo Green

Dont know if I can ever go back to a dumb phone though
implying it's free software

Charles Anderson
Charles Anderson

Still not responding to the question.

Samuel Turner
Samuel Turner

You are wrong. Ad hominem is a fallacy when an attack on someone's character is used as an argument for why they are wrong. Neither the mere act of attacking someone's character, nor insulting them constitutes an ad hominem fallacy.

Consider the following two sentences:

"You're wrong because you're retarded"

"You're wrong, and here's why, you fucking retard"

The former is clearly fallacious, whereas the latter most certainly is not, in spite of being equally insulting.

For that matter, what you are committing right here is an ad logicam fallacy. Step it up, anon-kun.

Jayden Flores
Jayden Flores

everything ITT is just normalfags who've never left their home getting weirded out by RMS ("he is le too extreme") and polniggers saying their irrelevant bullshit

Jordan Adams
Jordan Adams

I agree that SJW stuff is bullshit, but RMS still has done more than any other for software. I personally hate GNU software because it's insecure and autistic, but it's still better and saner than most of the other crap out there. Meanwhile, you sound like some insufferable redpiller faggot who believes in constructs like "capitalism" as the only way to build technology. Software almost exclusively takes 0 capital to build (if you think otherwise, you're a delusional moron). Arguing that we need capitalism for software to work is like arguing that we need capitalism for paintings to work (not that any painting has been made for the last few centuries, but still). Not only that, but you probably also call any type of free software "communism", which is a whole other layer of retard. You people are as cancerous as any SJW or communist.

Tyler Bennett
Tyler Bennett

I know the specifics of the ad hom. His argument was "you're wrong because you're this typical type of dude who bla bla bla". The argument was built on the personal attack, the personal attack wasn't a bonus. It was certainly a fallacy, anime LARPer brethen.

You're not responding to what I said properly is my point. I'm not even making an argument, you're the one who desperately tried to pick one and acted as if winning was my ultimate goal.
Arguments don't work if both parties aren't willing to concede or at least willing to see the others' end. I'm perfectly fine with you thinking RMS is not an extremist. If you have arguments to back it up, that's great.
What's retarded is that you can't even imagine why someone would think RMS is an extremist. The dude said some pretty crazy shit in the past. If you can't understand why someone would think they're extremist, you're stubborn or autistic, which makes arguing pointless.

Henry Ross
Henry Ross

Would you give extremist examples of things that Stallman has done to promote the free software movement.

Austin Morales
Austin Morales

He followed an insult up with an insult, then asked a question. You can't really argue against an insult, that's not how they work. As far as I can see, this has been the series of communication:

statement(FSF too extreme, etc)
<questioning, asking to defend that statement
insult
<counter insult, then back to question
ad logicam

As such, his argument was not "You're doing this typical thing blah blah", but rather that was a response to your initial insult, which he then followed with questioning your original statement once again. What he's actually arguing with is asking you to defend your statement with examples, which is perfectly reasonable.

James James
James James

I support the Free Software movement, but I do not like GNU, Linux, or any C-based or Unix-based products. Associating software freedom with C and Unix was a very bad idea because it is spreading the Unix virus and killing security and creative hardware and OS design. Stallman should have made a Lisp machine clone, Multics clone, or other "Right Thing" system to base freedom around.

Tyler Smith
Tyler Smith

Stallman prefers Lisp and he would have loved a Lisp machine. The reason why he chose Unix as the basis of GNU is for practical reasons: it was a clean and decent OS and it was popular in the universities of the world which would make GNU easy to spread. There's no technical reason why we don't have a free Lisp machine (and Lisp OS) today. We don't have one as a matter of practicality: nobody is interested into developing their effort into a Lisp machine in the same way that Stallman invested his effort into a Unix-based GNU. If you want to take up that burden for yourself, that is all up to you.

Joseph Clark
Joseph Clark

stallman doesn't have a Galaxy s9 on his person at all times. he is too extreme

Aiden James
Aiden James

say it with me now:
"WORSE IS BETTER"

Brody Nelson
Brody Nelson

77044 8 (1000) (checked)
my nigga

Caleb Miller
Caleb Miller

You have a lisp machine. It's emacs. Emacs is shit.

Ayden Williams
Ayden Williams

Hey /tech/ies
Former /g/entooman here, I just discovered this board which is apparently its counterpart in 8ch.net
and it seems to be a balance between memes and actually computer-related stuff. My main complain about /g/ might be /pol/ starting to lose its shit and spreading to other boards, is it sane here? for a /leftypol/ lurker like myself

Camden Wright
Camden Wright

No.

Carson Garcia
Carson Garcia

Fuck off, commie.

Logan Brooks
Logan Brooks

This is Holla Forums, /pol/ thinks every board is its hugbox and the existence of leftypol enrages them beyond belief.
its not as bad as /g/ in other ways though. less mac/winfaggotry.
t. gommie

Parker Harris
Parker Harris

Go back to /leftypol/index.html.
you retards are the reason why pic related exists.

Dominic Adams
Dominic Adams

Thanls guys I think I'll like this board

Tyler Barnes
Tyler Barnes

A)I came here before /leftypol/, so no.
B)Nah cunt.

Colton Johnson
Colton Johnson

fuck off retard

Michael Peterson
Michael Peterson

Hackers, you will be free

William Brooks
William Brooks

Leftism is hating white people and watching BLACKED videos. Also getting paid by israel to promote them to everyone else. I cant go or else I wouldnt get my check. Capitalism, eh, as long as it doesnt go back to being racist and sexist.

Adrian Williams
Adrian Williams

You say that when /leftypol/ exists because commies got upset /pol/ wasn't their hugbox.

kys

Wyatt Wilson
Wyatt Wilson

You're not responding to what I said properly is my point.
You did not ask a question.
I'm not even making an argument
The whole problem lies here.
you're the one who desperately tried to pick one and acted as if winning was my ultimate goal.
Diverting attention from the initial initial question that you refuse to respond, question which is

Pretty much this.

Here's what happened.
(you)
Stallman is way too extreme,
Affirmative sentence without anything to back it up.
(anon)
<Please explain why.
A question.
(you)
This is when you know arguing is useless.
Affirmative sentence without anything to back it up.
(anon)
<Says the user who gives no argument.
Enlightens the fact that you have given no argument.
<Your sentence is typical of those who try to win a debate via emotions instead of making an argument.
Pointing that you haven't responded to the question and that you are trying to give/impose your view without anything to back it up.
<So please tell why RMS an extremist ?
A question.
(you)
And your ad hominem here is a fallacy.
Affirmative sentence without anything to back it up.
(anon)
<Still not responding to the question.
Enlightens the fact that you haven't responded to the question, again.
(other anon)
<Ad hominem is a fallacy when an attack on someone's character is used as an argument for why they are wrong. Neither the mere act of attacking someone's character, nor insulting them constitutes an ad hominem fallacy.
Other user argues that your Ad hominem is fallacious.

Carter Garcia
Carter Garcia

but rather that was a response to your initial insult,
I didn't make any insult. Not initially, at least.
I said that his stance on Stallman meant that arguing was pointless. "Extremism" is subjective and depends on the morals and culture of the era and location you're on. If you're Stallman or an extreme fanboy, you're not going to think you're an extremist and there's no convincing you otherwise.

Pointless.
You're not going to agree that anything he said was extremist, even to other people, because you can't put yourself on someone else's shoes. Explaining something subjective requires empathy.

But yeah, if you're that desperate, I can think of one. Go ahead and disagree: he went on a podcast once and said that if your only skill in life is programming, you have children to feed, and all the available programming jobs are on proprietary software, then you shouldn't work as a dev at all. You should only work on free software. If you can't find anything, find a job cleaning or something. Doesn't matter if you contribute to the Linux kernel on your free time, and you need the money because your kids are sick, he said there's no excuse to work on proprietary software.

For those of you who remember that podcast, I'm not in favor of the guy who argued with Stallman either. He brought Stallman as a guest, knowing he had extremist views on free software, and cornered him for no fucking reason. It was unprofessional. But that doesn't mean Stallman didn't have irrational stances.

Xavier Gray
Xavier Gray

Want to support the FSF
<Debian is not good enough even though we use it
I swear I will grab a gun and shoot it all down and tell them to put debian in even though ian's wife is fucking dead and ian is dead.

Cooper Thomas
Cooper Thomas

Don't do it user. The cnniggers that killed ian and his family and then replaced most of debians devs with cnniggers wouldn't want you to.

Grayson Collins
Grayson Collins

Also go fuck yourself.

Noah White
Noah White

said that if your only skill in life is programming, you have children to feed, and all the available programming jobs are on proprietary software, then you shouldn't work as a dev at all.
that isn't extreme or extremism. fuck off you stupid USAniggers. you're free to be a pussy ass bitch and suck cock for a living if you want, nobody is stopping you

Jeremiah Clark
Jeremiah Clark

What does 'bonded out' mean?

Wyatt Jenkins
Wyatt Jenkins

<Oh yes goy define a legal term for me so we can send the *insert agency here* after you
Go study yourself you faggot. This board is meant for technical related topics. If you have a political question go to /pol/index.html

Isaiah Long
Isaiah Long

you pay money so you don't sit in jail. you get it back when you go to court. is a CIA Nigger btw

Jayden Hall
Jayden Hall

lisp
He made the right choice.

Carter Walker
Carter Walker

The reason why the FSF use Debian is because they themselves are able to distinguish between the free and non-free software: they will simply refuse to install the non-free software. However, they won't endorse it to other people because Debian officially maintains a list of proprietary software that users can choose to install. There's no point in endorsing a project that promotes its users to install proprietary software.

William Hughes
William Hughes

Without capital there's no intensive to work hard, retard.

Programming takes time and labor and I'm not going to give away my time and labor for free.

Levi Thompson
Levi Thompson

the movement is shit and full of pussy bitches.
the concept of free software is pretty gud/10 tho.

Hudson Hughes
Hudson Hughes

I'm not going to give away my time and labor for free.
Which is fine since you're most likely an incompetent faggot who couldn't write three production lines if he tried.

Evan Phillips
Evan Phillips

Debian does not promote proprietary software, though. The base install is 100% FLOSS. It merely gives the choice to people who might need proprietary software for reasons to use it.

David Martin
David Martin

It merely gives the choice to people who might need proprietary software for reasons to use it.
No they don't.
They support it by making non-free software work the the distro.
They support it by making manuals or helping people install the said botnet.
Debian driven community is kill since a long time unfortunately.

Adrian Sanchez
Adrian Sanchez

It's not my fault that the only way for your indiascript program to be willingly used by someone else involves making it free and throwing an autistic shitfit the moment someone else decides to sell or buy software.

Isaiah Bailey
Isaiah Bailey

So don't give away your time and labor for free. When you write free software with the intent of selling it, you should sell it at a profit.

Ian Butler
Ian Butler

It doesn't matter that the Debian strongly recommends for their basic install system that is free. The fact of the matter is that Debian officially maintains a list of non-free software for users to install. If this list was not an official part of the Debian project, then that would be a different matter. If this list was a blacklist that will actively prevent users from (intentionally or accidentally) installing the non-free software titles, then that would be a different matter.

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