About XUL / Legacy Add-ons

Luis Kelly
Luis Kelly

What is Mozilla doing with them after Web Extensions are implemented later this year?

All urls found in this thread:
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/issues/2784
https://linux.palemoon.org/
https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?t=15018
https://github.com/MoonchildProductions/Pale-Moon
Christopher Wood
Christopher Wood

Harvesting your data when you have to update them to versions that don't work, of course.
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/issues/2784

Ryan Fisher
Ryan Fisher

I dunno.
But next year is going to be Palemoon's year.

Bentley Jackson
Bentley Jackson

It's a pretty jew move

instead of sandboxing the browser let's sandbox individual add-ons, destroy 99% of them that allow privacy as we become closer to chrome

Nightly, Cyberfox, Water and Focus will support XUL tho

Chase Williams
Chase Williams

I'm on Nightly 57 and the only add-on that bitches at me is my to-do list manager for work. It definitely seems quicker than 56. However, I still totally expect Mozilla to completely fuck it up.

Levi Flores
Levi Flores

Aw fuck, just realized it's Nightly 56. I am not a clever man.

Julian Smith
Julian Smith

They're going to be accessible in their webpage until ESR 52 dies next year. After that they'll probably let them for a couple more months and then they'll take them down.
Good riddance. XUL extensions are such a retarded idea.

Joshua Clark
Joshua Clark

These legacy extensions will be deprecated and archived. The extension writers have had at least two years to think about this.

Benjamin Wright
Benjamin Wright

There are technical reasons why that can't happen. Legacy extensions work on the assumption that they are allowed access to everything that Firefox has access to. This is not a safe basic philosophy for a secure general extension system. This is the same philosophy that Microsoft used for the Active X extension system for IE. Mozilla cannot just say "fork a new extension process for each extension that's running" because XUL extensions were originally designed to be single threaded. There would be an insane level of duplicated overhead required to replicate the fundamental XUL processing functionality in a manner that's both backwards compatible and secure.

The reason for moving to Webextensions is that extensions are assuming to live within the sandbox i.e. it's a better security philosophy by default. The other reason for moving to webextensions is that is also a good excuse for moving from the single processing model of the traditional XUL system to the paradigm breaking multiprocessing model of the current one. These were planned long in advance and are only intended to happen once.

Easton Cruz
Easton Cruz

the only addon i will miss is self desctrucint cookies.

Levi Wood
Levi Wood

There are WebExtension alternatives to that. Most of the privacy addons have a WebEx alternative already.

Jeremiah Foster
Jeremiah Foster

Is Mozilla deleting the old add-ons?

Benjamin Butler
Benjamin Butler

Mozilla are not planning to delete the legacy Firefox extensions, they will be archived and deprecated. What this means is that legacy XUL extensions will no longer work on modern versions of Firefox. The way to get your legacy Firefox extensions are either:
*stay on an Firefox version older than Firefox 57 Stable
*edit an about:config flag to support the extensions
*use the development version of Firefox
*use a fork of Firefox that's going to maintain the legacy extension system

Evan Peterson
Evan Peterson

firesucks is still relevant?

Angel Thomas
Angel Thomas

afaik you can re-enable legacy addons in about:config

Isaac Cook
Isaac Cook

legacy gone
Firefox is now 100% chrome
cyberfox dead
waterfox is dead
focus isn't even a full browser
nightly is a joke
palemoon

What is left lads help me

Aiden Howard
Aiden Howard

ebin tor browser xddd
just use links2 -g through a socks proxy like the cool kids

Andrew Wood
Andrew Wood

Otter Browser

Carter Gomez
Carter Gomez

making your own browser.

Jacob Bailey
Jacob Bailey

Only Firefox forks remain relevant. All other common browsers with the exception of Microsoft's Edge runs Apple and Google's Webkit botnet.

767939
This is a bullshit argument. XUL addons aren't a problem unless you install malicious shit yourself . Everything Web Extensions will be neutered to webpage modifications and toolbar buttons - any addons that work to modify the browser itself are gone . I bet next you'll argue for banning exe files because they pose a security risk. Fuck off back to your corporate walled garden.

Liam Reyes
Liam Reyes

What's wrong wtih palemoon?

Anthony Young
Anthony Young

It's for subhuman winfags.

Andrew Ramirez
Andrew Ramirez

chromium with built-in ad-blocker ad-replacer
Great

Elijah Harris
Elijah Harris

Linuxfags butthurt yet again when windows has superior software

Ryan Anderson
Ryan Anderson

You could build it from source if you wanted. I thought freetards liked doing that sort of thing.

Nathaniel Turner
Nathaniel Turner

It has official Linux binaries, you retard.

Bentley Reed
Bentley Reed

Pale Moon or bust.

Christopher Hall
Christopher Hall

I've using the absolute latest versions of Pale Moon for Linux (that I don't even have to compile my own binaries for) to read this kind of retardation. What a time to be alive.

Matthew Flores
Matthew Flores

<https://linux.palemoon.org/

Jacob Jenkins
Jacob Jenkins

The binaries are proprietary.

Hunter Adams
Hunter Adams

Pale Moon Freeware License

this license does not apply to the Pale Moon browser, but to other specific (helper) applications released by Moonchild Productions. For licensing of the browser, please see the MPL (for the source) and redistribution license (for binary (re)distribution).

Pale Moon: MPL 2.0
Pale Moon Commander extension: Freeware with disclosed source
Pale Moon profile backup tool: MIT license
Pale Moon tab groups extension: MPL 2.0
Flash protected mode tool: Freeware license
Pale Moon profile migration tool: Freeware license (currently N/A)
Pale Moon web installer: Freeware license

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?t=15018

Elijah Hill
Elijah Hill


This is literary proprietary.
They release binaries without source code, thanks to MPL license this is possible.

Sebastian Phillips
Sebastian Phillips

Do you even understand English? It says the freeware does not apply to the Pale Moon browser. In fact you can grab the source code from repository and compile it yourself.
https://github.com/MoonchildProductions/Pale-Moon

Lincoln Davis
Lincoln Davis

Do you even understand English? He said that the binaries are proprietary, and they are.

Owen Price
Owen Price

Those are optional add-ons extension, retard.

Chase Nelson
Chase Nelson

not considering IceCat
Jeez. It really is summer..

Sebastian Baker
Sebastian Baker

nice gtk3 built user.

Carson Smith
Carson Smith

How have you niggers not heard about the Brave browser?

It's going to change the browser landscape.

Sebastian Reed
Sebastian Reed

All binaries are proprietary. Truly free software is compiled on your own computer!

Jaxon Cox
Jaxon Cox

Brave Browser actually deserves more attention here.
It's still not mature or well-supported enough to replace Chrome/Firefox in all cases, but it's a far better business model than all the other major browsers. The idea of replacing shitty resource-hungry ads with images is good - and the whole Bitcoin ad-replacement model means that development does not need to be funded by SJW-tier orgs or orgs with vested interest in marketing statistics.
Personally, the one feature I'm waiting for is easy profile switching. I contract for several different organizations so need to switch out Browser Profiles often.

Noah Myers
Noah Myers

Browsers are a botnet

Evan King
Evan King

You're a botnet.

Ethan Watson
Ethan Watson

Brave deserves no attention from anybody, because it's pure cancer. Their only goals are to scam investors and to exploit their users.

Grayson Miller
Grayson Miller

install brave on stupid old people's computers
set it to credit your bitcoin address for viewing ads
wait
profit

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