What is best Desktop Environment?

Aaron Gray
Aaron Gray

Which of these DE's is best Holla Forums?

Mate: http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3266
Cinnamon: http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3265
KDE: http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3282
Xfce: http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3281
Gnome: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/

I've been testing out KDE lots for the last 2 days and there's a lot of problems with it. Problems found so far are:

1. When you click (once) on an image file it acts as if it was a double-click and displays an error message and then opens up the file.
2. 0% = off, 1%-100% = full-blast-loud, no gradient in the audio for some gay ass reason
3. Folder view desktop incompatible with Huyion and that one other background mode. Only works with images in the background.
4. Default program for screencapping on KDE is shit an inefficient. I replaced it with gnome-screencap and custom commands so I could shift screencap super fast and have the caps output to a file right away.

KDE uses a lot of resources. I like Kate, I like that Krita works without having to add anything, I like that they include inxi by default... but it sure takes a lot of resources yet does everything poorly. Even though I use many KDE programs on Cinnamon or other DEs, I find Dolphin sucks dick and many other KDE programs are all terrible, so I'm going to switch.

Btw, it works just fine on a 4TB external hard-drive. My computer remains a Windows 10 computer but I plug in the external hard-drive and I've got linux. I can even play Dota 2 on second lowest settings and do a lot of other stuff, before the USB 3.0 bottlenecking becomes an issue. Next time police come to my house I can just unplug and smash if necessary.

Note that in my case I am always using the high-end of computers so I don't want to hear suggestions that are great for old computers with little resources. Main reason I keep switching DEs and upgrading shit and so on is because the older stuff doesn't work out nice, if everything would just work, I wouldn't have to keep looking into these things and bothering with all this stuff.

System: Host: fringe-XPS-7760-AIO Kernel: 4.8.0-53-generic x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.4.0)
Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.8.7 (Qt 5.6.1) dm: sddm,sddm Distro: Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya
Machine: System: Dell product: XPS 7760 AIO Chassis: type: 13
Mobo: Dell model: 0P3KGF v: A01 Bios: Dell v: 1.0.2 date: 12/08/2016
CPU: Quad core Intel Core i7-6700 (-HT-MCP-) cache: 8192 KB
flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 27264
clock speeds: min/max: 800/4000 MHz 1: 2553 MHz 2: 2548 MHz 3: 2590 MHz 4: 2565 MHz 5: 2588 MHz
6: 2581 MHz 7: 2562 MHz 8: 2577 MHz
Graphics: Card-1: Intel Sky Lake Integrated Graphics bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:1912
Card-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Bonaire XT [Radeon R9 M280X]
bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:6646
Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: ati,radeon,intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
Resolution: [email protected]
GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 530 (Skylake GT2)
GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 12.0.6 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio: Card Intel Sunrise Point-H HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:a170
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.8.0-53-generic
Network: Card-1: Intel Ethernet Connection (2) I219-LM
driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k bus-ID: 00:1f.6 chip-ID: 8086:15b7
IF: enp0s31f6 state: down mac: 14:b3:1f:0e:11:df
Card-2: Intel Wireless 3165 driver: iwlwifi bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:3165
IF: wlp3s0 state: up mac: 70:1c:e7:e5:52:ae
Drives: HDD Total Size: 4000.8GB (0.6% used)
ID-1: USB /dev/sda model: My_Passport_25E2 size: 4000.8GB serial: 575841314536363234394B5A-0:0
Partition: ID-1: / size: 3.6T used: 8.8G (1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
ID-2: swap-1 size: 17.02GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3
RAID: System: supported: N/A
No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Unused Devices: none
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 61.0C mobo: 27.8C gpu: 51.0
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info: Processes: 262 Uptime: 3:11 Memory: 4823.3/15899.3MB
Init: systemd v: 229 runlevel: 5 default: 2 Gcc sys: 5.4.0
Client: Shell (bash 4.3.481 running in konsole) inxi: 2.2.35

Shitposting in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY0P_eNECt8

All urls found in this thread:
http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3266
http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3265
http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3282
http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3281
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY0P_eNECt8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WVKVLvpHXg
https://solus-project.com/download/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z1PAXiyTB0
https://www.linuxmint.com/rel_sonya_cinnamon_whatsnew.php
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z1PAXiyTB0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WVKVLvpHXg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z1PAXiyTB0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WVKVLvpHXg
https://xubuntu.org/
Noah Bell
Noah Bell

I actually have been using Budgie lately, on Solus. It is their new DE they made for Solus, I have used, LXDE, XCDE, Gnome, KDE, and whatever bodhi uses, I think it is elelmentary. I think I liked LXDE the best, but Budgie is probably second, though, I am not sure, as it is so young. I really like solus in general, though, so that might color my perception of the DE. Budgie is mostly gnome right now, though, to be fair. Solus budgie is worth looking into, in my opinion. Mentioning it mainly because wasn't on your list.

Evan King
Evan King

Tell me about Gnome. Is it a lot like Cinnamon?

Jack Lee
Jack Lee

I usually stay away from smaller linux distros as they tend to be even more broken than Ubuntu and Mint.

Watching this though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WVKVLvpHXg

Brayden Fisher
Brayden Fisher

https://solus-project.com/download/

hmmm...

Jace Reyes
Jace Reyes

wanting bloat
not using a wm

Nathan Roberts
Nathan Roberts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z1PAXiyTB0

I think I'm going to skip on testing Xfce and just go straight to Gnome.

Elijah Sanders
Elijah Sanders

I like bloat. I have the resources for it and I just purge the things I don't ever use anyways.

Bentley Barnes
Bentley Barnes

Is this bait?

Aiden Martin
Aiden Martin

I don't have a hardware or software issue. I'm just trying to find a better default DE to work with then KDE.

Samuel Reyes
Samuel Reyes

why are all the threads that start with a pepe pic shit?

Colton Gomez
Colton Gomez

not to mention unironically personify OP

David Hughes
David Hughes

Define better default DE than KDE

Jacob Martin
Jacob Martin

I exclusively use xfce but it has some minor annoying issues. Everything else I find bloated

Evan Bell
Evan Bell

They all fucking shit, kys OP.

Kayden Evans
Kayden Evans

=LOL DE HURT

Nathaniel Perez
Nathaniel Perez

Pill me on those minor issues. It's the small but constant little things that make me buttmad in the end anyways.

Christian Edwards
Christian Edwards

single click instead of double click
you can change this.
for fucks sake OP, the point of a DE is that you can figure everything about it out by just dicking around the menues without learning anything.
also, resource cheap shit is means your vidya and other bloated shit runs faster.
just works
I hear gnome ""Just werkz"" the most but youd have to install some addons to make it not shit.

Jackson Hill
Jackson Hill

I don't even play games lel.

I hear gnome ""Just werkz"" the most but youd have to install some addons to make it not shit.

As long as it can be tweaked to perfection in a single day that's fine.

Lincoln Edwards
Lincoln Edwards

How do I change the single click thing in KDE btw?

Jacob Ortiz
Jacob Ortiz

So i can't really say anything a lot of other folks haven't really said concerning shit for your system (no systemd) but I'm going to recommend just using a tiling manager (i3 or bspwm) and if you want it to look comfy toy with the config and setup compton on there, since you seem to enjoy stuff like that.

If you're looking to ricefag just go and look at leddit since that is what they think linux is for.

By the way MLP is degenerate.

Justin Evans
Justin Evans

What is best Desktop
Ikea Galant.

Andrew Edwards
Andrew Edwards

Never used Cinnamon, but gnome is alright. It seems like it is the most "together" DE if you know what I mean, but it kind of turned me off with being a little too hand holding and not seeming to want me to do certain things for no obvious reason. This was gnome 2, fyi, Gnome 3 seems more pleasing to the eye, but I have used it for like 5 minutes(when I tried to install subgraph OS, it didn't go well, but it is still in early development, so hopefully it will support my computer at some point). Then Unity happened(I was on ubuntu at the time), and I would rather give up all technology and work as a wheat farmer than use unity. So anything beyond whenever that happened is out of my experience.

Original Solus shill here, installed it on a whim on an old hdd I had, because I thought it was cool that it was not based on another distro and was from scratch, optimized for desktop usage all the way through, but it has since become my favorite OS. It may be small now, but it is gaining huge traction, the main guy actually just quit his job to work on Solus full time, and they just added, I think 2 new core team members. I have a feeling it is going to become big. It has enough performance, style/looks, ease of use and development support and game support where both neckbeard and normies will like it. Obviously it isn't commandline only gentoo or whatever, but it's very usable, probably the most usable of any distro I have tried so far, as I said before, definitely worth a shot.

Josiah Hernandez
Josiah Hernandez

pill yourself bitch

Mason Watson
Mason Watson

not saving me the time

Ian Ward
Ian Ward

Tell me, how does screencapping work on Solus? Is it simple like in Gnome or is it all retarded with a bunch of dialogs that take you minutes to go through?

Christopher Cruz
Christopher Cruz

https://www.linuxmint.com/rel_sonya_cinnamon_whatsnew.php

I'm just going to go back to Cinnamon, it looks like they fixed everything that had issues anyways.

Hudson Rivera
Hudson Rivera

Xfce has more features and customizability than MATE, Cinnamon, or GNOME while having a similar footprint. KDE fulfills a different niche.

My top picks for functional desktop environments with their own niches are Xfce, KDE, LXDE, and maybe Enlightenment (though you can achieve largely its same functionality with Openbox pipe menus in LXDE).

Aaron James
Aaron James

Holla Forums constantly surprises me, every time I come here it has gotten worse

Colton Anderson
Colton Anderson

Noob here: what DE (if any) allows me have my browser tabs in the titlebar? I run Mint with Cinnamon, and that waste-of-space titlebar annoys the shit out of me.

Mason Phillips
Mason Phillips

DEs are dogshit. Use i3 and rice your GTK theme.

Kevin Powell
Kevin Powell

uzbl uses a separate window for each tab, if you execute it manually. It's not really a fool-proof thing though.

Parker Myers
Parker Myers

look at me i riced my desktop i stand out
$ echo "Hello /g/"
/g/index.html

Andrew Richardson
Andrew Richardson

l-look what you've done OP. you've made us lose one of our rare majestic 1337 unicorn posters by putting your shit on the front page

Isaiah Miller
Isaiah Miller

ill save you the time nigger: dont use any DE because they're all shit. just get one of the 100 standalone window managers. personally I use a tiling WM

Aiden Phillips
Aiden Phillips

Cinnamon is the best because it got me using linux with linux mint. Only took a few weeks from there to learn the OS and replace that shit

Charles Miller
Charles Miller

I hope 90% of what you do is in the terminal because they're virtually pointless for casual users

Julian Murphy
Julian Murphy

For a trully casual user, all he needs are: web browser, office suite, multimedia player, filemanager, and a small set of tools like to control the display, printer, and audio mixer.
Well you don't need a huge DE for that. He can manage just fine with an "easy" WM like IceMW and various "user-friendly" programs that are pre-installed with shortcuts and file associations. That's basically the entire philosophy behind Puppy Linux, Damn Small Linux, and it works.

Robert Williams
Robert Williams

This is what I do:

play steam linux games
mess around in GoDot engine and Blender
read and narrate PDFs with open broadcaster
make memes in Gimp and Krita
write my notes in code in xed or kate (kate's join-lines features is missing from xed and has some other nice stuff)
take shitloads of screencaps and document and track people online all the time

I like to have a clock on the desktop and icons n' shit and I fuck around with ricing everything and in the past have even made my own themes completely from scratch with custom code and assets (images).

Jace Barnes
Jace Barnes

Here's how my Linux Mint Cinnamon on another computer I have looks.

Dylan Thomas
Dylan Thomas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z1PAXiyTB0
[01:10] WTF? Bookmarks?
Honestly, the whole video reminds me of Windows 95 and Symbian s60 ads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WVKVLvpHXg
[05:18] working alt+tab
[09:20] clock can show seconds
So brought back Gnome features from 2008? Nice!

Grayson Bell
Grayson Bell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z1PAXiyTB0
[01:10] WTF? Bookmarks?
Honestly, the whole video reminds me of Windows 95 and Symbian s60 ads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WVKVLvpHXg
[05:18] working alt+tab
[09:20] clock can show seconds
So brought back Gnome features from 2008? Nice!

Jacob Russell
Jacob Russell

From what I tried, xfce is objectively the best.

Also tried Cinnamon and Gnome. The former had issues with vertical item distribution on desktop (lack of proper grid) and could not have vertical toolbars (aside form being memory-intensive), while the latter was alright but simply ugly.

The only issue with xfce is that it lacks desktop "widgets" both in quantity and quality/aesthetics.

Kevin White
Kevin White

what the actual fuck are you retarded? im trying to decode what level of retarded you are on. a tiling WM is just like any other WM except it lays stuff out tiled instead of in random positions. there is literally nothing you can't do with a tiling WM that you can do with say Metacity or whatever bullshit Gnome uses these days.a

Levi Torres
Levi Torres

1337 unicorn
No, I'm just not a drooling asperger who makes 12 of the same threads that are already up on the catalog asking other drooling aspergers what software they should use because apparently they're incapable of deciding things for themselves (must be used to mommy deciding what kind of tendies they get) and contribute absolutely NOTHING to the board beyond what could be found in the fucking sticky, clicking on the installgentoo wiki link, and searching "Desktop Environments".

You're not discussing technology, you're asking for software recommendations. Blow your brains out of the back of your skull. Thanks.

Elijah Perry
Elijah Perry

Testing out cinnamon here. Despite what they said about the "spices" aka desklets being fixed, they are all garbage and not working. A lot of stuff is being retarded. I've barely been using this for more than a few minutes and the weather desklet thing is unselectable now (for awhile it kept following my mouse everywhere and no matter that I'd click like mad it wouldn't stop). So the only things they've said they improved and fixed for this version are still not working. So I'm just going to hop onto Xfce or Gnome next. Probably Xfce.

Daniel Edwards
Daniel Edwards

The only issue with xfce is that it lacks desktop "widgets" both in quantity and quality/aesthetics.

Are you sure? Does it at least have clock, weather, and calendar?

Justin Green
Justin Green

Daily reminder that MATE is the only DE that still supports Compiz.

Sebastian Carter
Sebastian Carter

I changed the clock myself to make it show seconds.

Jaxson Smith
Jaxson Smith

There's literally no point to using it unless you actually benefit form the tiling and the quicker shortcuts. Unless of course you're a retarded ricer using i3 or some other shit and stacking windows with it like a fucking moron

Connor Butler
Connor Butler

shift screencapping STILL hasn't been fixed in the new Linux Mint 18.2 Cinnamon

It's just one line of code you fucking retards why can't you just listen to me and add it?

sh -c 'sleep 0.1; gnome-screenshot -a'

Ethan Sanders
Ethan Sanders

Downloading Gnome right now. Gonna try it next.

Landon Rivera
Landon Rivera

Scratch that, realized I couldn't download it while in that boot mode thing, gonna do Xfce now.

Cooper Martin
Cooper Martin

GNOME CONFIRMED INCREDIBLY BASED

I'm just trying it out right now, don't even have it installed, and everything is beautiful by default, and everything is working incredibly well, and it automatically added my printer - something no other DE of mine has ever done. It's amazing. Fuck Linux Mint and it various DEs, I'm going to stick it out with Ubuntu Gnome now. Only problem I have is no proper audio driver but that's a problem I have with any version of linux because the audio driver for a lot of dell computers hasn't yet been added into the kernal.

Parker Reyes
Parker Reyes

You don't need to change your whole DE for something like that. If you are running firefox-based browser, there is an addon called Hide caption titlebar which does the job.

Depends on your needs. XFCE is the most sane of them. It's low on resources and it's the most customizable one.

Brody Anderson
Brody Anderson

Been using Gnome now for like 10 hours or so.

It's amazing in so many ways but I can't find any damned widgets.

Don't know if I should stay on here and install Xfce DE, or go to https://xubuntu.org/ or go to the linux mint Xfce.

Charles Baker
Charles Baker

Which of these DE's is best?

Leo Perry
Leo Perry

Thinking of either trying Budgie, Ubuntu Studio, or Xubuntu next. Studio uses Xfce btw.

Kayden Rodriguez
Kayden Rodriguez

Studio it is.

Adrian Martin
Adrian Martin

It's amazing in so many ways but I can't find any damned widgets.
There's an add-on site for GNOME extensions, a lot like what Firefox has.

Jackson Ross
Jackson Ross

DOS
Should have never left the command line

Lucas Perez
Lucas Perez

I cannot fucking stand tiling window managers. Windows are meant to be stacked and floated. Even with two extra monitors at work I still make liberal use of overlapping windows to maximize the amount of useful information I have on the screen at any time. There are situations where I don't need x-application to be 100% visible. Sometimes you only need to see one small part of x-application it while you're doing something else in y-application that requires a fuckton more screen space. In those situations you can just re-arrange and have the useful corner of x-application visible.

Jacob Martin
Jacob Martin

do you use Gnome 3 or something? that would explain it. the amount of space used for the fat fucking icons and shit in Gthumb mean you actually need a full 1920x1080 space to even display the page properly. like I could explain that I could put an image editor to the side of my browser because i want to edit an image from the web and reupload it, but i think you're just literally retarded
wants to get rid of retarded bloat
yet wants a DE
OP confirmed an incredible faggot
are you some kind of nigger? it's not either or. you can turn off tiling. even in Windows now you can get it to tile for you by dragging the window to the far left/far right
There are [RARE] situations where I don't need x-application to be 100% visible.

Jace Jackson
Jace Jackson

Cinnamon's the best

Anthony Lewis
Anthony Lewis

Yes it does. I think the weather plugin might be out of date (as to polling the proper databases) right now though.

Angel Long
Angel Long

Blue Pill me on Ubuntu.

Xavier Baker
Xavier Baker

Not any mention of ratpoison

This place truly went to full shit

Joseph Adams
Joseph Adams

What is best Desktop Environment?
name a WM
"This place truly went to full shit"
Like pottery.

Chase Jackson
Chase Jackson

Mods, why the homocaust?

Adam Wilson
Adam Wilson

Oh wait it's just ALACRITY again

Liam Smith
Liam Smith

Hey guys, currently using Ubuntu Studio here, it's kind of cool but kind of shit. A lot of stuff is already included so I don't have to download it, but it's also missing many things it really ought to have, and the UI is highly customizable in terms of colour and transparency but not much else. The main thing that is grating me is, for some reason I'm getting all this screen-tearing, and firefox both starts up using more memory and then proceeds to leak memory far faster than it does on the other OS. Also dark UI themes don't apply properly to everything.

I am rather disappointed. Maybe I should try Budgie next?

Michael Robinson
Michael Robinson

The most retarded thing about Ubuntu studio is resizing windows. You to literally click on the one pixel at bottom right corner to resize it both ways at once. It is really fucking hard to do this. There's like almost no borders on the windows in this UI.

Parker Adams
Parker Adams

Because they are probably all made by the same pleb.

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