Prudeness vs Degeneracy

Does anyone else feel really nihilstic when reading stories on Holla Forums about sex? Especially casual sex.

When I read them I just feel like there is no magic in the human experience and we are just instinct-driven animals who satisfy their lust upon one another. The weird thing is that I dislike prudeness at the same time, so I always experience an internal conflict with sex. It also doesn't help that I am a virgin and I feel insecure about that.

Because when your young, everything seems magical and interesting. The world is colorful and fun. But all of that slowly changes the more you experience life, and when your life is over, everything is now the opposite.

That's exactly what it is.

I truly love driven individuals do exist, then it is likely that there will be in the future a divergence in human evolution between the casual sex maniac normies and the hopeless romantic betas, leading to two species with differing survival strategies, one being the live fast, die young, reproduce like a motherfucker strategy of insects, and the grow old, put a lot of energy into a few offspring strategy that humans used to follow. If you're having a conflict between these two then now's the time to throw your lot in one branch of humanity or the other. What future do you want for your offspring, if you actually manage to reproduce, that is.

I can't deal with this. It's making me depressed as fuck. Is very human is replaceable and we only value them not for their inner worth, but what they give to us? Like sex.


But I am just 23. Okay I already feel old, which really isn't helping.


But would I love my partner for her value as a human person or just the fact that I had children with her, which any other women could have given me?

Nigger I dont fucking know I'm not you do some self reflection or whatever other gay ass shit to figure that out

Might as well flip a coin if staying spooked is your only option.

I've been doing that, but I didn't reach any conclusions. I seem to constantly go back to struggle with this.


That still doesn't help my feeling. I feel like I am chocking right now. This is really getting to me.

i feel like that when i eat. i feel like an animal when i eat.
no need to be, on Holla Forums. one and the same.

whatever
just don't be a cuck, and keep your shitty fetishes to yourself, unless you are in thread about it, and I won't really give a shit.

I don't get it. Are you implying that human hedonism/perversion and prudeness don't exist and they're just "spooks", therefore op shouldn't worry about them, or that op's problems with these issues is the problem and that op should feel shame for hating it?

Another "defeatistic" tard banned from Holla Forums.

wtf? equating "sex" with "magic of the human experience"??

are you fucking serious? that is the most virgin shit i think i've ever heard.

Fuck you, I am a romantic. :(


Nope, not banned.

OP maybe you should stop by wizardchan.

Do not mention ever being attracted to a girl though. By their standards this means you are no longer a virgin.

Having sex will help clear things up for you, at least eventually. Sex is overrated as fuck though. The real value is in finding someone worthwhile, which people conveniently ignore when they brag.

And we are instinct-driven animals on some level. That said, don't take stories written here seriously. They're autistic works of fiction. Just like you wouldn't take a feminist seriously, don't take these people seriously either.

Sex -like life- has whatever value you choose to give it. People that do it casually don't let it mean a lot to them, so they will argue it's worth little. If you make love with someone you care about (as in you'd be with them even without sex to a point), it will mean more.
People degrade a lot of things in their life without even aiming to and wonder why life doesn't seem special anymore. Think about how many people bitch and whine about work, even if they enjoy most of it. I work as a nurse, so I deal with a lot of difficult people. It's very tempting to complain about this to others, but I make an effort to speak positively about my job and feel much better for it.

Why? What happens there?
I don't like feeling depressed with other depressed people who all they can talk about how everything sucks. Oh and don't even try to improve yourself….


I guess I shouldn't mention I like boys too?

People constantly say that, but I really don't see what's too wild about them. It's not unbelievable.


That is why I am not a prude. And because I am young and have a healthy libido.


This too though. I am a very romatnic person.

FFFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGOOOOOTTTTT

can you tell us some experiences when you molested little girls or were in the care of sick children? preferably they were naked or in a hospital gown?

You know this really doesn't help when you aren't actually gay, but have kinda a fetish for them.

pedo

I give kids vaccines and tend to wounds sometimes. Even if you are that way inclined -which I'm not- you get too busy doing your job. I get to see some nice women topless sometimes and still don't pop a boner because I have too much shit to do.

are you the bicycle german poster?

Could you, theoretically, take pics of sick kids naked or topless?

specifically naked or topless little girls that are under anesthesia or passed out? Just a few pics

Can't have a phone because the signal can interfere with some machines.
Also:
Kill yourself.

(checked)
Pic related might be of interest.

LOOK BITCH!!
If pictures of naked and topless little girls werent illegal we WOULD be normal! Society has to make us resort to these things to fucking feel good and have any sort of porn that we enjoy

go suck some doctors dick you fucking hoe. all you had to say was no thanks. not bring my attractions into this bullshit yoou fucking hypocrite

eat shit and die you fucking cunt

I don't know what that is referencing.


No.


I like this, user. Call me gay, but I extend my "romantic vein" to my friends too.

eh i like you user. slightly annoyed that you're gay, but it doesn't matter. just know that i wouldn't befriend you irl, but here, we are one. no homo

faggots

Nothing wrong with liking dick on the side as long as you like vag more.

don't you have an eclipse to watch? faggot

nope

fuck off. i'd hang you in my backyard if you were my son

Don't be so homophobic user

very well then

don't tell me what to be, fag

I am not actually gay, user. I'll admit to bicuriousity though.


thanks buddy


for me it's that I like butts, so I like butts of boys too and value their personality and warmth when we cuddle after a rough session

Make me nigger

that's degeneracy talking

I'm a guy.
You ever think about why it's not legal? I often deal with mental health cases who are mentally scarred by guys with your attitude.
This thread was an user musing about casual sex and feeling sad about how it seems to have little magic left, while not wanting to be a prude. In short, he has quite a healthy attitude.
I mentioned I'm a nurse to contribute to an example.
YOU CHOSE to ask about doing something illegal and unethical. You strongly implied your attractions. I didn't drag them up; you made them obvious.
You come on Holla Forums, you risk being shat on. You can be attracted to whatever you like, but we also have the right be disgusted and mock you.

sage for drama that shouldn't be in OP's thread.

shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up

you top, bottom, littlespoon, bigspoon?

Wouldn't you expect most bicurious people to be top? Anyway, that's what I am. And I enjoy being the big spoon. I like holding someone in my army and me "protecting" them.

kek

what's the cause of this? bad parents? no parents? memories of love? what's your deal with muh romance?

Why? What issue do you have with my romantic idealism?

I am just a very empathic person. I get sad at the end of the movies when characters are implied to never see each other again. Or when the actors had didn't like each other behind the scenes, even though they seemed to have great chemistry on set.

Both. There is no baseline of human sexuality from which to deviate, and OP is getting his panties in a bunch over which of two manufactured demographics he fits into.


Keep in mind where we're at. Holla Forums has a tendency to attracted the most autistic examples of people of any sexual preference. Plus, there's a pretty good chance that he's either false flagging or a shut in that's grafted his idealized expectations of women onto young girls, in which case he wouldn't be a cause for concern if he actually spent any time around children.


I'd just like to point out that in a lot of cases, "child protection" laws cause more damage than they prevent. There's all sorts of cases of 8 year old children being convicted of raping each other for voluntarily sex play, high schoolers being convicted of producing child pornography for sexting, kids 5 and up being forced to register for life as sex offenders with all sorts of restrictions like not being able to go near a school or park, etc.

On top of that, even cases where there was clearly abuse are generally handled so poorly that they cause more harm to the child than letting the abuse continue. Look at how often children blame themselves for their parents getting divorced. It's completely irrational, and yet they do it anyway. Now compare that to the far smaller jump from "he's being punished because he had sex with me" to "he's being punished because I had sex with him." Remember that these are almost always adults that are well known to the child, often parents or siblings. Losing a close family member is always a psychological blow regardless of how much of an asshole he was. Losing that family member in a way that's practically designed to cause self-blame is guaranteed to fuck you up.

And if that weren't enough, focusing on sexual abuse distracts from the far larger issues of physical and psychological abuse, which are 10-20 times more common, and are the actual cause of all of the negative effects attributed to sexual abuse.

I don't deny that the laws and powers that be have some issues with how they handle sexual abuse cases. Children performing sex acts on each other and being automatically being charged with rape is obviously not ideal, as are things they clearly choose to perform themselves.
But I don't think decriminalisation is the answer. Not that you specifically said this, but I think this is the hope of quite a few pedofags on here.
The process of removing or restricting the access a person has to someone they have sexually abused does need improving. However, I think people would be more open to counselling a victim better on what has happened and why.

The thing is, rape is already illegal. Decriminalizing adult-child sexual relationships isn't going to make sexual abuse any more legal than it already is, unless you happen to define sexual abuse as "any manner of sexuality involving a child," in which case the current laws being used to persecute minors are working as intended. If anything, decriminalization would result in a reduction of child abuse as these relationships come out into the open where they can be moderated by the influence of others and where threats and coercion aren't seen as necessary to protect the secrecy of the relationship.

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you made a very good point

Following absolute idea of human being animals is fucking retarded, we are animals, that is true but so are wolves, they literally mate with only one female in life, we did not evolve thousands of years ago to just act like what we were before it, now that is evolution of being a retard, so yes, I am not a person who is a god among men who can be committed, but sure as hell I won't promote anyone's son to be a rake like I am, the biggest issue with modern world is that sluts want to be sluts but don't want to be called one now.

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We're all virgins on Holla Forums you fucking dumbass
And we're all insecure about that

Faggot

You don't even know what kind of person you are until you've had very good sex. Or rather you CAN'T have good sex if you don't lay bare your naked body and open a part of your soul. This is why true sex is valuable. It makes you an actual person.

Life is mechanical. Your mind is an electro-mechanical symbol processor. Layers of neuronets effectively do matrix transformations, which means neuronets can be used to implement functions and transformations. There is no soul, no heaven or hell, no angels, no judgment, no [truly] seeing your dead relatives. Free will is an illusion caused by our minds inability to reduce the complexity of the future to any degree the further we go out in time. Our cells are molecular nanomachines made of fats, proteins, nucleic acids, and all trillions of them behave in a massive swarm which results in us. We are bio-evolutionary robots who have JUST begun to become aware of the true nature of the universe. Our prime goal must be to make planet Earth ecologically and economically redundant. Anything short of that will mean failure.

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Oh no, sex is absolutely a requirement for long term psychological health.
The effects of no sex are all around us: it leads to memeing a Trump presidency and WWIII.

Then explain "I think, therefore, I am"
There has to be at minimum, one soul.

I compute, therefore I exist.

In the same sense that sports give you a better body. Just as a better body makes you better at sports.

It's not nessessary for a soul to exist for you to exist. It could very well be an illusion like the combined image of both eyes being seen as one or feeling sensation in a leg that's been long cut off.

Life is what you make of it. You don't need any "special meaning" given to you. Make your own, you lazy bastard!

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I really would rather see the world as prudish, monogamous relationships between a man and a woman, where any aspect of sex is strictly behind closed doors, seems so much more intimate and meaningful than the degenerate world we live in now, where everybody wears their number of partners as a badge of honor, and flaunt their sexuality.
At the same time, there is a lot of degenerate shit that gets my goose honking, much of it being beyond the realm of reality either due to the absurdity of it or that the reality is not as attractive as the idea.
I would still much rather a world in which I could have a monogamous relationship with an untouched bride to deflower during consummation of our marriage, and create a big family with her, grow old, and die together surrounded by our grown children, a testament to our devotion.

There's a difference between fucking and making love. When you are with a girl you actually care about you'll usually make love to her. Passionate sex that really bonds you together and is enjoyable. Even the man loves the feeling of closeness with the girl.

Fucking is what you would see in porn. You'll even do that with a girl you care about, but usually that's casual sex. That's just hard sex trying to get your jollies off.

If you're a virgin, you're overthinking sex and that's why you are insecure about it. It's honestly not a big deal once you start having it.

I have never had sex with another human, and will never have sex with another human. maybe a sexbot if they get up to where I want them to be
I am still a human, just not willing to risk 3DPD.
sex isn't important to the individual
pick your words more carefully

Yeah, you don't need sex to live a fulfilling life. Maybe. But it sure as hell helps.
Sure that's why humans have been obsessed with sex since the dawn of time. Not having a progeny is almost equal to being dead and not having a progeny in an evolutionary perspective.

sex is overrated, women are fucking convoluted and sex with them is borderline meaningless.
t. angry Holla Forumstard

you don't
if you made unlimited power because you wanted to, but it took your whole life, and you never had sex, then you have lived your life better then some dude who fucked 1000s of 3DPD, because you've helped a shit load of people, and you went beyond your biology
that is why I said "to the individual"
it is important to groups, because without it the group will die out, the individual will die no matter what, progeny or no progeny.

The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one!

I never said the group doesn't matter. I am saying when the individual's and the group's interests are the antithesis of the other's and no synthesis is available then the individual should just look out for their interests, and not care about the group's
and I also consider making technological, scientific, or philosophical advancement to be of higher importance then shitting out more children for the sake of the continued survival of a group, because in doing so you would stagnating, and stagnation is a waste of already scarce resources.

Fair enough. But if you have the necessary mental aptitudes for science, isn't it the most selfish thing to deny those good genes to the human gene pool by abstaining?

humans, for the most part, haven't been subject to nature selection for the better part of civilization.
There hasn't been any evolutionary pressure due to our technological prowess, and agricultural methods. So if you had genes that made you smart it wouldn't matter, as those genes would be deluded, simply because there are methods to ensure that smart people get to reproduce more then stupid people, thus humans become the evolutionary equivalent of the horseshoe crab.
The only way that I see humans evolving for the better and the more meaningful way would be with genetic engineering methods.
I just hope they find to way to engineer adults as well as the unborn.

there are no methods*

In correction to>>7306815. It is an absurdity to say
that the universe is nothing more than amechanical, fundamentally dead husk as it would disvow the existence of human conscience. If such a phenomena is to be acknowledged it must be true that protons, neutrons, and electrons must have at the least a limited ability to percieve; rendering psyche as a universal to all things.

Until we keep dying and reproducing we are subject of natural selection. Just how it works.
Me too but even then differences will exist. Even monozygotic twins differ and they were divided from the same organism. No way human engineering reaches 100% accuracy. Even if that were the case radiation and exposure to the elements are a thing. Until there is even the slightest difference in genes natural selection won't cease.

Correction: Monozygotic twins do not differ on the genetic lvl.

"I think therefore I am" is the response to stripping the value put into sense experience;
illusion implies sense experience or a trickery of the sense organs as shown in your examples.

if 99% of a species can live until adulthood, and find reproductive success in every generation, then there is no evolution going on in that species.
doesn't need to be, just needs to give us control, and be economically viable.
crisper is looking promising, even if we still have hurdles to overcome

Personally i find it fun and exciting

Instincts and feelings are magic of human interactions imo. Sex degrated only to frictions indeed has little benefits over masturbation. But it also may be a display of affection, a fun game, or even a hobby. Taking sex out of context of human relationships, even casual one robs sex out of its charm and drive.
I've lost mine last weekend. I don't think what you are talking is prudness at all, maybe you want to be close to person you actually care about and i find this to be pretty normal.
By the way, no need to worry, find an understanding partner that will let you know their body, what they like and how. Also don't forget to communicate and let them expreds themselves

go back to Holla Forums

Why do you think I post there? Because I don't.

because i can
yes you do

You're taking me for someone else then. I'm not going anywhere anyway

I might have went a little bit too harsh on you, I'm sorry. It's mostly because I spend a lot of time on Holla Forums and I don't talk to girls as well

ayeee i was just pulling at your dick, user. just a little prank, brother. how did you lose your v-card? did you enjoy it?

Nothing really special, it was pretty vanilla stuff, maybe except one thing. She knew that I'm more of submissive kind so she took initiative in her hands and played with me.

Yis, a lot. Honestly i got more pleasure from making her moan and squirm a little. Though i am still pretty inexperienced. At first it was hard for me just to touch her in places, but she helped me to overcome whatever stopped myself from doing it.

Sluts are great though, I like being able to hit up a tinder girl and pop a nut in one within an hour, it's better than being distracted by sex. You can really get shit done when you're not blue-balled constantly.

(wasted dubs)
You are a disgrace for contributing into the bad reputation Germans already have. Our men are so emasculated that most of them become cuckolds or fucking faggots, or worse: both.

Kill yourself or else your infect others with your degeneracy.

Sorry, user. Everyone has to fight his own degeneracies.

If it helps calm you down, I never acted on it and at this rate, I doubt I will. It feels weird to consider that in real life.
I have yet to only jack off to it.

Your thread is interesting.

thanks, it survived for quite a bit

No, when ever I read stories (any stories) on an image board (any image board) I feel depressed for the world because so many people are obviously too stupid to understand the difference between an image board and a discussion board. It doesn't bode well for the future of this planet that our population has that many people who are that stupid running around freely among us. The only consolation I have is that most of these people are basement dwelling wizards who stand no chance of ever breeding.

Holla Forums is an image board.
Not a discussion board.
Move along and take your stories with you.
pic related
pic should ALWAYS be related on an image board

make me