For me, it seems like a pretty solid graphic novel/webcomic. The characters and their designs are unique, the story keeps you interested in what's gonna happen next, and it explores mature themes and visuals. The Prelude is relatively slower and not much happens for most of the time, but it still keeps its mature themes and you get extra information as to what's going on.
Interestingly enough, the creator was originally going to pitch this as a cartoon to the networks back in 2005, but then he met a famous artist who told him the executives would warp his vision into a completely different entity and decimate his creative control.
It makes you wonder how the industry would've turned out if that show was allowed to manifest with the same maturity and quality of content as the comic. It would've changed the course of American animation and rival Avatar: the Last Airbender, in fact, it's probably safe to say it would've influenced Avatar to push for more mature themes and visuals. If only we had what could've been.
The big two are Marvel and DC. Constantly shitting out the same boring capeshit for decades.
Parker King
V5 when?
Cameron Ortiz
Hopefully soon. At least they're able to work on it full time instead of only being able to work on the comic when not working full time at some other gig.
Nathan Jenkins
I was trying to do some math with there weekly release of V4 pages and came up with some time around 2019. Also, I thought they were only doing part-time.
Cameron Ramirez
What's the update schedule for the green GNS pages? Prelude used to be every other week and they only went weekly recently when working on the comics became a full time thing. They also started adding V4 pages a few months after the initial print and paid digital release.
Elijah Barnes
Green GNS?
Jace Morgan
Free got autocorrected to green somehow. Maybe I accidentally wrote gree?
Dominic Martin
As far as I know they will be released weekly.
Angel Reyes
It's pretty good so far. I just hope they don't go full stronk womyn mode with Vi, she's already teetering on the edge of that particular abyss.
Jeremiah Gomez
I haven't read it but based on that one picture you posted it looks like more weeb furry shit. Fuck that.
Levi Miller
DC's 50/50 on quality these days. Marvel's 100% on that condition, but with a heavy sprinkle of unabashed progressive virtue-signalling that would put the 2015 MTV awards' maximum tumblr bullshit to shame.
Ethan James
DC's still been beating the same dead horses for decades. The only decent things they published were under Vertigo.
Lucas Jenkins
What are the most egregious examples of their unoriginality?
Cameron Smith
The Death of Superman is a good example. They hyped it up and in the end it didn't fucking matter because there's no way they'll get rid of any established character. Nothing matters in capeshit comics. It's all written by committee trash where if anything important happens it will be immediately retconned. They churn out the same basic plots with the same characters over and over again.
Logan Foster
I think it is a beautifully drawn comic series by a great artist with a good head on his shoulders and a realistic view of the industry. It has a lot of potential, and I have liked what I have seen so far. We are still in the rising action of the story, so there is a lot of time left to fuck it up, but I have faith in Dave.
Dave is working on it now full time since the plush KS is over but there isnt anything to ship yet. Hes still in the penciling stage so there is only a little bit done, but having seen the man work I myself, he can work very fast.
As far as I understand, he will pull something like he did with V3 and V4 when V5 is done. He will release all the remaining V4 pages when V5 is out.
One page a week for now.
Shes based off of a Greek hero I do believe, so her actions are supposed to allude to his stories.
Giving them too much credit IMO.
Thomas Richardson
bump
Jaxson Lewis
Which Greek hero?
Wyatt Thomas
I think the only thing that comes close to it is Lackadaisy
Adrian King
I fucking reset my router to try and read this comic and I see
On my External HDD or e621. I can do a dump for it in a little bit if you want, I just try to not dump it all up front because I like to talk about the actual series.
Joshua Kelly
They're adding new free GNS pages every week. You can buy v4 if you want the whole thing
Cameron Nelson
Sure. What are your thoughts on the series as a whole, and what direction do you think it'll take?
Jack Edwards
I think that the weakest volume is Vol 1, but that is fair since Dave was an emerging writer and has gotten a lot better. I think that Mace's love-struck attitude toward Lilith is childish, and probably the weakest driving force out of the characters. I think that Namah can be too randumb, but it is justified since she has spent her life in near solitude and is a perpetual case of stir crazy.
That said, I love all the main characters and my opinion of the side characters/secondary cast is pretty high as well. I dont know if its because of all the screen time they get in Prelude or not, but I love seeing things from the perspective of the three tower guards come rebels.
I think that Nabby and Void are a great bad guy duo, one a force of destructive nature and one a schemer with a lot of time to put plans into action. I cant wait to see them more, and I wish that we had gotten to see them fight at the beginning of the third Volume instead of just hearing about it.
The powers are a nice balance against the Nightmare horde, and I think that it will be fun to get to learn alongside the other DKs as the shit hits the fan.
As far as the story goes, I know Dave personally so I have a few tidbits of info that I have been able to piece together about what is in store. The plot for Volume 5 will be about the push back from the Police against the rebel factions, with a side of street gang antics and some introductions to characters in the police force.
Mace and Grunn are going to go on some sort of sea voyage after the main cast splits up, off in search of the island of the spirits that Grunn found before.
From here on I have only speculation. I believe that the group will split up after the first battle with the Nightmare Horde, which will take place after the battles in the street between the Shock troopers and the Troika escalate to all out warfare.
Dave has confirmed that there will be at most one third of the named cast standing by the end of the last volume, and I think that Lilith will be the first main cast member to die. She is the linchpin that holds the group together, so if she dies the group will split.
I think that Mace and Whip are two sections of the same personality, like a familiar. Whip is most likely a key component in Mace's power, which is why he was unable to activate it when Ravat tried to force Mace's powers out.
I have plenty of more speculation since I have been following and talking about this series for years, but I think that this is enough for a single post.
Jaxson Anderson
SPOILER THAT SHIT YOU CUNT
Adam Baker
the speculation is not confirmed, and could be subject to change. if i had said anything of real sustenance, such as specific events as opposed to general events, i would have spoilered.
as for the events i did list, it is all in free and released content that has been available to read except maybe the part about grunn and the island, which may have been in vol 4, in which case my bad.
Julian Hernandez
While I also think there's a significance to Mace and Whip's relationship I don't think their both pieces of a whole. Whip is a Dreamkeeper just like the others and his power is tied to his ability to fly. His body shape is possible with how much DK's bodies can vary and the school considers him a special needs student. His speech and Mace's ability to understand him are what I'm curious about though.
Have we seen Mace and Whip attend school in Prelude?
Joshua Stewart
Do you have a blog or anything else where I can follow you or see your posts?
Daniel Bennett
Not to my knowledge. It's been a while since I've reread prelude though. I came up with that idea after they said only Mace can understand Whip's speech. And since they have been together since they were infants, we have no idea if they were ever not together.
Nah, I only really talk Dreamkeepers in the threads that pop up here or on /furry/ which is a fucking shithole I don't go on any more. You can always look through my posts on the DK forums if or catch me on the Thursday chats if you don't want to talk here. I'm also in the DK telegram chats.
Forum Userename is MobileCrusader.
Jackson Campbell
is there still a DK centric telegram? or has it been overrun by flaming faggotry yet like skype was? I imagine it was because it was mentioned to me that there is a discord one now too. I get the feeling that with all the switching the problem is the mods, just swapping clients isnt going to fix the problem.
Ethan Cooper
They use discord now. I sometimes show up when Dave joins on thursdays. I could imagine it being worse but it's far from good. Too many faggots.
Noah Walker
The centralized discord is dead, but there are a few tiny ones with a high percentage of fans.
Draon ram the Skype and main telegram, and they were fine till he started posting IRL drama about his fag escapades and showing off his dickhole every 5 minutes. After that it devolved into nothing but fur faggotry of the highest order so I bounced.
I don't use the DK discord except Thursday, and that's where most of them congregate. My machine doesn't like discord much, as I seem to get errors every time I try and use it, so I just have up.
I just simply don't talk to most of them outside of cons now, which is a real shame since I really like the guys. They are my friends, I'm just really busY and fed up with furry drama.
Pretty much. It's not as bad as the telegram was at the end but there's no going back up the rabbit hole from the depravity it's become.
Lincoln Russell
Oops, centralized Telegram, not Centralized Discord. My bad.
Sebastian Reyes
So, who do you think will die first?
Brody James
One of the security guards.
Blake Jones
Overall, I'm guessing one of the Troika will die first. I'd wager one of the assault team members we saw in volume 4 or one of the guards.
Out of the main cast, prolly Lilith.
Ryder Garcia
Since Namah's only purpose seems to be comic relief I see her dieing as the comic gets more 'dark'.
Colton Carter
nobody If somebody has to die, I'm betting on Bobby.
Nathan Sanchez
After he rushes in I'd say Igrath because he seems the type to sacrifice himself. but if Dave kept him alive while others die nearby would make for some amazing character development (especially if is one of the girls)
Liam Reyes
I really dont think any of the main cast are safe. Lilith is too pure to make it, Bast is a hot headed fighter type with something to prove, Namah is sheltered and randumb, and Mace is most likely a Christ character and at least a special MC who needs to defeat the big bad.
Whip is kinda a toss up. If he is a vital part of Mace's power, I think they would share the same fate. If he is entirely separate, he could die to make Mace lose it, or he could be just fine.
Angel Nelson
My money is on Igrath and Scinter both biting the spring propelled bullet. Igrath is, as stated, someone that seems like the sacrificial bulwark type and has too many people too close to him. Scinter is wanted and funds the resistance movements off his booze, so taking him down would be a big nail in the coffin for the Troika.
Joshua Jackson
I can see Grunn making it through. He's detached enough. I can also see him sacrificing himself to save Mace or one of the orphans in in uncharacteristic display of selflessness. Depends on how Dave likes to kill off his characters.
Ryan Watson
Dumping what I got. There are some pics in here from the DK Telegram that I dont think ever made it outside the circle of close friends of Zagura, but im not sure what he has and has not posted.
Eli James
There also may be some dupes, if you see them call them out. I dont think ive ever done maintenance on this folder.
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Nicholas Collins
I have a few more scattered around my External HDD i will try and find.
Nicholas Smith
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Grayson Reyes
Thats all i got for now
Matthew Price
Do you have any idea what effect advertising on Milo's podcast had on the number of DK readers?
Jeneviv
Jack Ramirez
There was a reasonably large backlash on social media when it was all going down, but Dave handled it pretty well, and laughed at the people virtue signaling at him. I think they got a few more readers out of it, and I have noticed more people in the chats recently, but not a crazy amount. All in all, I think there was a net positive. Dave has seen the bigger picture, though, so it would be interesting to ask him that on Thursday during the chat.
Michael Long
Which episode did it get featured in?
How many?
Julian Hughes
The artwork I mean. Which episode of the podcast did it get featured in?
Michael Wilson
furfag get out
Hudson Hughes
September 15th episode if I recall correctly.
It's hard to tell. There were about 1000+-150 readers at the time of the volume 4 kickstarter, but now there are closer to 1500 readers based on amount of books sold. I wouldn't dedicate that solely to Milo's podcast's ad, but it was one of two or three large publicity stunts in the interem, and the only one that went semi viral.
Lol fuck off kike
Colton Miller
Personally, I think he should take out an ad on 8ch and e621 (if they even do ads) since almost all the readers have found the series in either one of those two places. If they dont, just make two or three images showing off his skills that he advertises with and uploads to said sites. Hell, he wouldn't even have to upload them. His fans are all so fast about it they could probably spread it further than he could.
Luke Miller
Apparently site traffic went way up.
Thomas Wilson
Not exactly sure. He did mention he was getting a drawing of it done several times. Should be one of the podcasts shortly after the image was first uploaded to DK art accounts.
Noah Lopez
What would a Dreamkeepers cartoon be like? Any ideas?
Michael Robinson
If it was a straight up cartoon to be aimed at children, it would probably be based off prelude since it has the lighter atmosphere but still handles adult topics.
Animating the Wayward astronomer or another side story that doesn't hinge on the core GNS would be another option since they could tell just about any story and have it make sense.
They could do a GNS story but it would have to be an adult centric animation. It would probably be toned down to the point of being similar to a DC animated movie.
Jordan Morris
I'm for the creation of animation without any kind of parental or content limits. I suspect that a Dreamkeepers cartoon keeping the same quality of content as the GNS or other stories would be a tsunami of creativity in the animation industry. It would have such a great presence that it would initiate the creation of other great works.
Michael Reyes
It wouldn't get picked up. Still I think they said they would produce animated shorts if they get enough patreon bucks.
Christian Johnson
There's a great hunger for quality animation with mature themes and content. If it ever takes off other people could realize that you don't have to make an adult animation into a comedy to be successful.
The whole reason we have the comic is because it didn't get picked up. Dave is all for doing shorts and animation, but he is too busy with the GNS to consider the project himself. He has spoken with some of the fans about getting talent to do the brunt of the animation with him overseeing and advising, but the last effort, the motion comic, fell flat. Not to mention he is working on the platform game and the card game as it is.
Carter Gomez
Do you really think it could've done well and amassed a large following had it been made?
Sebastian Flores
Not if the TV execs had gotten what they wanted: child's show with monster of the week fight and very little overarching plot. If they had kept Dave's original ideas and taken his message to heart, we would be having something akin to the GNS animated. I don't know how well the art would transition over (you know how animation is this day and age) and the art is a pretty big selling point for the GNS. I would like to believe there is enough of an audience out there to get a show for adults out there and popular (just look at how popular anime has gotten in the west recently).
David Rogers
Did they actually propose a Dreamkeepers cartoon to the networks?
Eli James
Thats how it started out. It was a pitch for TV since Dave is above all an animator. Its what he went to school to do. I personally dont think his animations look nearly as good as his hand drawings, but thats just my opinion. You can see some of his youtube videos here: youtube.com/user/dreamkeeperscomic/videos
Brayden Gray
If you ever get a chance to ask Dave about it in person or on chats, its a pretty interesting story. you get to see the inner workings of how peoples ideas are sold off and neutered by the uncaring execs on network tv. He has talked about it in almost every podcast he takes part in.
Chase Miller
I asked David on twitter if there is a video of him talking about starting dreamkeepers, but hes not super good about responding in a timely manner so we will see if he responds at all.
Storytime is now caught up with the current free content. I will update it as it is released. If I can get ahold of one of the High Quality PDFs I might post it, though I highly suggest you spend the money if you want one. Or you could enter my raffle and try and win a hard copy.
Colton Foster
Do you know what he actually said about his interesting story? Do you have links to any sources?
Kayden White
He was angry and insulted but he's since moved on to believe it's his place to bring back some life to written comics and provide a place for quality artists to tell stories the mainstream won't publish.
Tyler Edwards
Chat and Sketch on the DK Picardo this friday. inkbunny.net/journalview.php?id=257164 Real list of topics and timeslots instead of all of us just randomly shooting the shit and being cancer.
Jacob Brooks
Asked Dave about the Milo ad and his advertising in general during the chat today. He said that he was not expecting much from the ads, at least not for a while. Viewed it like an investment that wouldnt come to fruition for a few years. The Milo pic going viral was thought about as a possible talking point, but he never expected it to get as much attention as it did. He said that the ads have worked wonders thus far, and he would attribute a large amount of books that have been sold to the publicity he got. He sold something around the 4 figures range in the time following that ad going semi-viral, and he has had a lot of recognition at the recent events he went to. He said the ad was well worth the time and money.
Lincoln Murphy
Been reading David's Blog since he announced his most recent venture. Came by this tidbit. I knew there was a reason I loved this man.
"But are things really that bad? So what if the whole industry is controlled by one company? So what if tons of smaller publishers were put out of business forever? So what if the Federal Reserve is unconstitutionally owned by private interests? Who cares? It’s not like Diamond is evil or anything. You’d think having absolutely no competition would be a bad thing, but, come on. They just want to make money and sell some books, right? Where’s the harm? After all, Diamond has promised to value the interests of small publishers and diversity. Whew! Good thing Diamond is all about promoting diversity! Right? They promised! Right?"
He's always been great when talking about how Diamond, the big two, and capeshit are the cancer that killed comics in the US.
Colton Clark
the stream and chat starts in half an hour (or at leas its supposed to picarto.tv/Dreamkeepers
Landon Parker
live
William Reyes
Does he archive his stream?
Grayson Lee
Sometimes, But not always. I have no idea about this one. Take this unfinished Namah sketch as payment.
There were a lot of nearly-lewds this stream.
Ian Garcia
before anyone makes fun of me for using edge, all my other browsers keep crashing and this is the only one that will stay up. Sage for double post.
Cooper Wilson
quick screen grab of a vol 5 page that was given to the patrons a while back but we are seeing for the first time.
Lucas Taylor
Better pic and another page.
Kevin Cook
pls email [email protected]/* */ if you're a cat named sakamoto and want a cute furret to lick your paws awful stop drawing. forever
Christopher Hernandez
pls email [email protected]/* */ if you're a cat named sakamoto and want a cute furret to lick your paws I volunteer to take his qt if he doesn't.
Andrew Baker
pls email [email protected]/* */ if you're a cat named sakamoto and want a cute furret to lick your paws how?
Kayden Reed
pls email [email protected]/* */ if you're a cat named sakamoto and want a cute furret to lick your paws I'm impressed this shitty thread has been up for over a month now tbhqhfam
Bentley Adams
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Carson Collins
Probably because your is like the 3rd pokemon thread not in autosage.
Anyway, thanks for the pics
Charles Harris
Watch the OVAs. If you want not Getter but still Ishikawa there is Majuu Sensen but be warned that has a harder cliffhanger due to the sequel series not being translated yet and who knows if it ever will.
Liam Perry
I think this question is more suited for Holla Forums, but there is a show that got a drastic style change and lasted long?
Andrew Howard
Art of DK by author of Zoophobia
Zachary Hill
Depends on color, fabric, fit, etc.
Xavier Brown
it's free download and use it the contours tool is fine the other things mehh github.com/CGCookie/retopoflow u can also use Surface Sketching inside blender, or download or use instant meshes and Sketch-Retopo there's and import export addon
Charles Thompson
i'm thinking lab terrier and border collie
Lincoln Mitchell
>There were alot of nearly-lewds this stream
Fuck me and I missed it all. Doesn't look like he's uploaded anything to Patreon yet, either. Anyone save anything juicy?
Daniel Young
I arrived late to the party but he flashed a few of the pics, such as Lilith and Namah in the bath together, lots of Lilith poses, and a few Vi poses. Namah was definitely the lowest populated out of the ones i saw. Im hoping he uploads the video to the youtube channel so i can rip them all.
Ethan Lewis
Actually, looks like Dave put up a google link download of the recorded stream on Patreon. You can probably snag it now and rip everything out of that.
David Ortiz
Nice. This pleases my dick.
Noah Rogers
Im too broke from Uni to be a patron, and I dont trust Patreon as far as I can throw it so I cant access said stuff. As much as I would like to, its not possible for me to rip from it unless someone else gives me the file.
Charles Ward
It's a .psd whats a good program that's not Photoshop?
If anyone can, it will be him. I dont know if this is the way or not though. Guess we will see in the coming years. His approach does make sense though. Hes pretty much just offering wholesale to the average buyer at this point. I know for a fact that I will be using this service in the future to help with giving away more books in my raffles. It makes giving away the entire DK saga a viable option since i am not spending $80 a pop on them per person. When they have a more diverse list of titles, I could see the potential to make getting them into stores a viable option for small time entrepreneurs. Its essentially trying to sell your indie project to stores, only you didn't make the content. I doubt a traveling Comic Salesman is possible outside of conventions, but this opens up the potential to make a bit of profit on the investment.
Aiden Peterson
I thought this over and I think one of the twins will die first.
Kevin Watson
The Stream got uploaded. I'm going to rip all the pics from it and post them here!
Henry Lee
I am obviously not going to be able to get the best shots on all of these. Most of the time Dave does not have the images full-screened when he does the sketches. As such, we may end up with some that are just samples. I will do my best though. Anyone who is willing to dump the images from the patreon PST is welcome to, though I understand if you dont want to do that.
Evan Stewart
should just wait for them to e posted, circulating lackluster screenshots is lame
Connor Myers
Most of the time they never get handed around outside the patreon group. Its only the really high profile stuff that makes it out. I am doing this more as a sample to show off what is inside and because I am watching the video anyway, so why not.
Isaiah Scott
Eat your heart out, autist. Kek
Charles Rogers
Eat your heart out, autist. Kek Shit, didnt get the end of the picture. My bad.
Noah Butler
As much as I like Darkspeeds, I find it really hard to listen to him spreg out for long periods of time. World's nicest guy, just find his voice to be like nails on a chalkboard after a time.
Brayden Green
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Anthony Wilson
This one is a couple of OCs from two of the older Mods in the community Taridium and DanWithTheHat
Landon Bailey
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Colton Price
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Lincoln Long
Im tired. I might pick this back up and try and get the other half, but I really hope that someone ends up leaking the images before I ever get around to it.
Parker Jones
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Jaxon Fisher
You are right, might as well be an asian company lol.
Isaiah Rodriguez
Oh come the fuck on David. You can't keep all of them clean forever.
Justin Baker
im sure he can, but yeah, im sure he knew what the request was for but he didnt even go for the unconventional censorship, when straight up clothed, bad form dave.
Matthew Turner
Even if it wasn't animated by Americans, it was allowed to exist by American creators and executives.
Henry Roberts
Origins of DK video from Dave and Liz
Henry Perry
Webcomic Relief video on DK.
Elijah Bell
Did any of you guys enter the contest for the card game? There are appearantly 50 contestants and the contest starts in Ernest soon.
Nolan Lee
Vi is best girl.
William Jenkins
Well, somebody's not happy about it.
Patron-only caption contest is being held for those interested. David has "something" planned for a reward.
God, I hope this is a sign of them getting ready to cut loose with the cast.
Liam Parker
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Isaiah Cruz
That seems like something Karo would do.
This needs to be fixed.
Jason Campbell
Jesus Christ that's horrifying.
Cameron Russell
You talking about this?
Mason Parker
yes
Thomas Fisher
Just leaving these here.
And, also for those dying to see the recent stream sketches by themselves, Dave wrote in the comments of the YT video that he's still working on a pile of requests from the stream and that he'll get around to posting them up once he's done.
Angel Peterson
My nigga!
Liam Moore
First round of the contest went up. Meme candidate didn't show up.
Ayden Nguyen
Which one of you faggots is responsible for this?
Evan Bennett
WEW What a fucking sham. Dave shouldn't be doing this shit knowing he doesn't have enough diehards who would commit to it. I think half the contestants in this are just trolling.
Joseph Cooper
I know that I will post something. As far as I am concerned, the less people in it means I have even better chances. It is a shame though. The community events tend to be pretty popular with DK.
Michael Gutierrez
OK who the fuck are you
Samuel Cooper
In case no ones seen it.
Brandon Gutierrez
Eh, might as well throw this up here, too. Name redacted, but more that likely it's Serapis.
Camden Reyes
I fancy that design
Cooper Sanchez
Looks like a fusion between Angewomon and the White Tiger Ranger. I kinda like it.
William Phillips
Which characters don't have any porn of them yet?
I haven't seen anything with Harmony, Vanth's cute moth friend.
Jose Barnes
Well, that's no surprise really. She's only been seen in Bast and Vanth's first arc, which was customarily short. On top of that, her design would be murder to draw, specifically her head.
Of course, it doesn't help the fact that she's 11. Not that that ever stops the cub artists, but yeah.
As for characters with no rule 34? There's Karo, Igrath, Scinter, Nainso, Silk, Ravat, etc etc. Might as well add Tinsel to the list since it's been ages since someone drew porn of her. She gets so much hate that literally nobody wants to touch her.
Mason Hill
I wish Vanth and Namath had more art. Lilith steals the spotlight with most fans that get art done.
Luke Davis
Vanth continues to be great.
Eli Morales
I'm starting to wonder when we'll see more Wayward Astronomer smut. So far, only Mancoin has tackled it.
Jacob Foster
There's something about watching some kid think they can do the impossible and then failing miserably that just makes me crack a smile. Dave knows how to display that quite well.
Brody Phillips
Early Christmas gift, courtesy of an awesome editor.
Leo Parker
Nice
Jacob Lopez
Jesus fucking Christ. This would have worked so much better if so many DK fans weren't furfags.
Sebastian Reed
What were the sketch suggestions?
Lincoln Howard
Furfags by default are cancer
Benjamin Sanchez
This tournament has been nothing but one huge cringefest. What is the goal of it anyways?
Parker Miller
To put an OC into a card game 1.5 people will play
Owen Johnson
Most of them have been uber cringy. I remember why i stopped RPing when i read them.
Levi Morgan
fuck this shit
Jeremiah Clark
Chriiiiist, this fanbase is gonna be a sight to behold when/if this series reaches popularity.
Kayden Adams
The fanbase was doomed in the moment Dave put anthropomorphic animals in his story
Matthew Bell
Furries need to be gassed.
Adrian Sanchez
Hopefully it doesn't
Nathaniel Bell
Hey, he was naive at the time and didn't really "know" about furries. He wasn't even drawing it for furries, but it drew them in anyway. Anything with animal people does.
He's lucky that they're the ones throwing money at him to put food on his table right now. If he were drawing his characters any other way, he and his wife would truly be starving artists. If it weren't for furries, he'd be even more obscure than he already is.
Evan Gonzalez
I don't believe for a second he didn't know what furries were. Same for Tracy Butler, they knew what they were getting into.
Kevin Gutierrez
I do, but once they knew what furries were, they both said "fuck it, if they're the audience then so be it."
Daniel Anderson
KKK
Adam Sanchez
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Blake Perry
God these songs are getting better.
Levi Moore
FUCKING YOUTUBE
Alexander Parker
So, what does everyone think of David Lillie the creator of Dreamkeepers? Is he a mega faggot or does he have the most realistic view of the animation and comic book industries that many naïve artists fail to understand?
Noah Nelson
He may be a little naive at times but he knows his enemy and he is trying his best to make his product successful. His art is good and he is worth supporting in my opinion.
Thomas Price
How is he naive?
Ayden Torres
He expects the best out of people at all times and it shows with the quality of his fan base and their content. Such an approach opens the way for his fans to share some great content, but it also enables sonic tier terribleness. A lot of his platform is built around attaching his product to the content of his fans and he does little to screen it.
Josiah Jones
This.
Owen Howard
He's absolutely right about capeshit being boring, poorly written by committee garbage. Right about the big two and Diamond killing the entire medium in the US and their shitty business models and practices. Right about networks and publishers stifling creativity.
I think he also talked about how art schools are trash, which is also right.
Lucas Scott
How are networks and publishers stifling creativity?
Brayden Roberts
They only approve the most uninteresting garbage you can think of so as not to offend anyone.
Wyatt Brooks
New patron sketch.
Jaxson Cooper
Well, at least it's the blind one who walked in on them.
A shame that there isn't any actual stripping, but I guess that's to be expected.
Samuel Cox
Neat
Daniel Mitchell
…and a colored version for you.
Hunter Jackson
Noice. Thanks.
Jordan Rivera
Thanks
Lincoln Martin
Heh
Jayden Bailey
How often does he stream?
Bentley Jenkins
Live chat every thursday, but his art streams are not really scheduled. He announces them at the beginning of the day on twitter. Hes been doing more and more streams lately though so he may be going for a regular approach to at least the weekly prelude which is usually a Wednesday or Thursday project.
Adrian Jones
Hopefully this 1st round will filter out most of the shit.
Camden Ortiz
How long do you think this crap will last?
John Morgan
5 rounds since there are 50 contestants and the nearest power of two is 64. 2^5. Each round will get progressively shorter since there are half as many contestants.
Round one took like a month almost, so round 4 will probably be less than half, round three about a quarter, etc.
All in all, most likely slightly less than two total months to finish. I would guess that he has something planned for the end.
Matthew Jackson
Winner of the tournament gets their OC put into the card game that only a handful of people are going to play. That's it.
Charles Rivera
Yea, you are not wrong. I'm not expecting to play it with anyone but the DK guys at cons. Still, it's fun to compete and creates a sense of community as well as an opportunity to support Dave through another means.
John Richardson
Doesnt sound to bad
James Fisher
There has to be somebody in this thing who can write at least half way decent right? Has there been one? All I have seen so far is shit so embarassing that it would even make most DA users cringe. Like almost sonic fanfic level shit.
Grayson Clark
I was less than satisfied with my own honestly. It was 1k words before I cut it down. I have not read all of the entries but most of them seem to be pretty lackluster to say the least.
Adam White
OK which faggot were you?
Landon Barnes
Kurt "The Flash" I didn't get to have a real match because my opponent bitched out.
Isaac Clark
Truly a fate worse than death.
David Russell
Poor Bobby
Easton Lopez
Think this is the event that makes him turn to crime or the Troika?
Sebastian Sanders
Not sure
David Hill
Pretty sure it's gonna be the latter. At this point, I'm convinced that Anise is Troika undercover and this whole child support debacle is an elaborate way of getting Bobby into a meeting with a recruiter.
Levi Rivera
I always wondered who they would have contact him, since Grunn would obviously cause quote the bias.
Dominic Morris
Even in a fantasy world, child support is eternal.
Joshua Campbell
Alimony too?
Lucas Jackson
I think I've found the only tournament entry I haven't disliked. Doesn't help that the Sukotto guy is fucking unberable in this and yet is somehow winning
Robert Hernandez
Scott is popular inside the DK group, I assume he has the support of his friends to bolster his numbers on the back of his writing skills. Ive never read his comic so no idea what his writing skills in general are like.
Andrew Jackson
I got bored and made another edit.
Joseph Moore
If this is anything to go by its absolute wank. That has to be the explanation as no sane person would vote for that Emo shit over the other one which was surprisingly decent
Sebastian Wood
Vi is best girl after Vanth
Thomas Perez
Do you think she got into the Troika for the money or the world ending cataclysm?
Luis Thomas
Fine question. For all we know, she and Bobby were probably as skeptical about the whole thing as the three guards are/were when they joined. Bobby will probably join to get the money to erase his debts. Since it's fairly obvious that joining the Troika is more or less a blood pact, Vi wouldn't be able to leave to pursue her career.
Who knows how they're going to join and for what reasons. As we can see in the GNS, it does appear they're fighting to prevent the end of the world. Going back to their somewhat comfortable lives will have to wait until all is said and done, which is what they're most likely thinking by that time.
Jason Harris
Maybe, he'll have to see
Benjamin Edwards
bump
Eli Morales
Maybe
Nathan Wilson
That's debatable.
Grayson Allen
New Prelude
Hudson Cook
Please tell me you're working on Namah and a full view of the sketch. You're doing God's work, m8 (or in this case David's work).
Asher Thompson
I concur.
Justin Mitchell
Nice
Grayson Parker
Not like it's never been there before, but it sure stands out without the pants.
Cameron Miller
Thanks Satan
Brody Baker
Wasn't planning on it since I don't care for Namah and I'm not good with nipples, I'll see what I can do, no promises.
Benjamin Green
Well at least your not making any promises hate to see people disapointed.
Jose Rogers
Probably won't color it for a few days.
James Garcia
Oh, yes. Thanks a ton. You wouldn't happen to be T_Zulu, are you? If not, I could always have him finish what you don't want to.
I'm at least happy to see another editor.
Angel Lewis
I'm not zulu. I can finish it but it will be over a few days, won't combine the images though.
Logan Howard
nah m8, it looks like furfaggotry.
Joshua Thompson
Got it done much faster than I thought.
Gabriel Nelson
Mate, you are judging a book by its cover. I wont say its a book that everyone will like, but to call this furshit is to discredit it unjustly.
Eli Long
Dont forget to spoiler
Cameron Butler
Re-uploading for those that didn't get it. Not the color-user. Had to save as PNG due to file saying it exists already.
Lucas Johnson
Thanks, I got the same error when I tried to re-upload it.
Landon Phillips
Sure
Anthony Morgan
You're awesome, man. I already shot an indirect line to T_Zulu on U-18chan about a complete view using your edits. He might go ahead and make his own edit, but we'll see. Hope to see more from you in the future. We sure could use more editors like you.
Isaiah Rogers
That place still a thing.
Cameron Hughes
Yep. Isn't really the same now that the hundreds of pages of content are gone and a lot of threads are getting swarmed by ban-evading trolls, but other than that it's alive and well.
Camden Anderson
I don't know how people get around on that site with no catalog.
Why is Whip wearing panties on his ears and what is Mace looking for?
Justin Stewart
My guess is it's some ridiculous plan to try and get Grunn to wear something. Who knows what Mace is trying to do.
inb4 Mace starts drowning and Whip uses his power to save him.
Joshua Murphy
Kinda lazy edit. Shame there isn't more of her.
Cooper Baker
This tournament went to shit. bunch of furfags voting up their discord friends, hense Sukotto writing up some of the most embarassing, cringeworthy garbage I've ever seen and getting to the end. Though even if he loses, another faggot with a shit load of DK forum posts and custom discord icons of their own shitty mary sue furry porn OC will win.
Carter Morales
Yea i kinda quit keeping up with it when i realized it was all the namefags getting voted up by other namefags based solely on their friendship.
Ryan Evans
Welp, Sukotto's gonna win. Anyone even surprised?
Adrian Gomez
sorry user you lost fair and square, wasn't even voting into one of them talked me they actually worked for it by making memes and talking to friends. I think all you did was make quick description of the character and what they did called it a day why didn't you talk to anyone here? or on the forums or even discord. you salty motherfuckers
Elijah Ramirez
What the fuck are you even talking about?
Zachary Gomez
Back on topic.
Sebastian Butler
Nigga i aint even in the contest.
Mason Lewis
shitty furbait
Alexander Gutierrez
Is that new?
Bentley Roberts
On Patreon, it was the original Vi poster sketch but they tossed it and went with another. Liz just colored it.
Jason Sanchez
You know what they say about books and covers.
Hudson Baker
Looks like this thread's about to slide off. Let's keep that from happening, shall we?
NOT NSFW, by the way. It's V5 spoilers.
Blake Ortiz
More Vanth in V5
Nice.
Adrian Taylor
Whip is hoarding panties.
What a perv.
Joshua Martinez
So how close to completion is V5? Another year?
David Baker
I belive that he's been working through getting the pencil in done, so soon enought he will be sending it out for color blocking and whatnot. A year is probably a decent estimate since he seems to be rolling right through it all.
Does anyone have the photos from the last chat n sketch?
Isaac Martin
He uploaded the whole thing to youtube.
Christopher Sullivan
Yea bUT he normally releases the pictures he drew sometime later
Zachary Rogers
New Thread when?
Jason Harris
Shit, the bump limit is 300? I guess I'll get around to a new thread shortly.
Jaxon Murphy
No Prelude this week.
Any new art? How about lewds? I'd love to see more male/gay DK stuff.
Daniel Perry
What's the plan and what's the mystery creature for?
Jacob Taylor
Seen on twitter.
Eli Edwards
For the sake of killing off this thread sooner for a new thread, here's the latest monthly sketch. Main cast's human counterparts running away from their dreamkeepers. Also, a freaky Bast face found in the psd file in photoshop. Apparently, Dave was just messing around and decided to leave it in the file.
Jace Thompson
Sweet
Joshua Edwards
Nice catch
Ryder Rogers
Is Mace carrying a human Whip or Paige? Looks like there's one less human than DK there.
Anyways, have the new Prelude.
Jacob Allen
Thanks user
Elijah Murphy
No human whip
Owen Butler
Nice man
Thomas Hill
neat
Joshua Allen
He's carrying Human Paige. The reasons for Human Whip being absent have been Plot Vaulted, as usual. It's pretty obvious at this point that Whip is some kind of an anomaly and not an average dreamkeeper. So, a lack of Human Whip isn't really surprising when you think about it.
And, with that, we hit the bump limit. I'll get around to starting up a new thread when I can.