Holy shit guys I'm like /pol/ incarnate but I've recently started reading marx...

Ayden Long
Ayden Long

Holy shit guys I'm like /pol/ incarnate but I've recently started reading marx and a lot of what this guy says is legit.

All urls found in this thread:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/jewish-question/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/jewish-question/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/jewish-question/
Jose Rivera
Jose Rivera

Sure thing, redditor.

Ryder Richardson
Ryder Richardson

t. porky

Matthew Jackson
Matthew Jackson

such as………?

Asher Foster
Asher Foster

inb4 /pol/ says this is /leftypol/ false flagging

In order to prove you're not false flagging, you must post specifics about your /pol/ views and how what you're currently reading relates to them.

Jordan Brooks
Jordan Brooks

I'm not a Marxist but Capital is a worthwhile read. Even if you think a lot of the potential problems with capitalism can be fixed with market solutions, there's a lot more to it than a lot of polacks would have you believe (not that they've read it).

William Gonzalez
William Gonzalez

all me

Caleb Morris
Caleb Morris


I was just shitposting mate. My personal views align more with /pol/ but I like to play both sides because I'm autistic and live off of (you)'s

Joseph Cooper
Joseph Cooper

If you don't think that there's at least some validity to the writing of all major political thinkers, you're probably a brainwashed idiot. So good job.

Jose Reed
Jose Reed

unironically recomending reading Kapital
Fuck off, if I wanted to spend my time reading heavy economic books I'd go study economics.

Blake Carter
Blake Carter

Marx does raise some good points about the downsides of capitalism but his solution is even more fucking retarded

Camden Martinez
Camden Martinez

It's still underread- actually reading Marx isn't a part of most economic curriculums unless it's like an elective.

Benjamin Evans
Benjamin Evans

Marx was a cult leader, cult leaders typically sell lies based on truth, they then prophesize about what's going to happen in the future after convincing you that it will happen, despite the fact that it never will happen.

Jaxon Nguyen
Jaxon Nguyen

It's been said before that that Marx was great at identifying problems, but shit at coming up with solutions.
btw:
in a July 1862 letter to Engels, in reference to his socialist political competitor, Ferdinand Lassalle, Marx wrote, “It is now completely clear to me that he, as is proved by his cranial formation and his hair, descends from the Negroes from Egypt, assuming that his mother or grandmother had not interbred with a nigger. Now this union of Judaism and Germanism with a basic Negro substance must produce a peculiar product. The obtrusiveness of the fellow is also nigger-like,”

during the Mexican-American War, he wrote: “Without violence, nothing is ever accomplished in history.” But then he asks, “Is it a misfortune that magnificent California was seized from the lazy Mexicans who did not know what to do with it?”

Marx—whose grandparents were Jewish, but whose parents converted to Christianity—wasn’t a fan of his ancestral religion either, writing in his essay “On the Jewish Question”:

“What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money . … Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist,” Marx wrote in the book—which critics have later described as virulently anti-Semitic.
“Money degrades all the gods of man—and turns them into commodities. … The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange. … The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general.”

Logan Sanders
Logan Sanders

It's been said before that that Marx was great at identifying problems, but shit at coming up with solutions.
btw:
in a July 1862 letter to Engels, in reference to his socialist political competitor, Ferdinand Lassalle, Marx wrote, “It is now completely clear to me that he, as is proved by his cranial formation and his hair, descends from the Negroes from Egypt, assuming that his mother or grandmother had not interbred with a nigger. Now this union of Judaism and Germanism with a basic Negro substance must produce a peculiar product. The obtrusiveness of the fellow is also nigger-like,”

during the Mexican-American War, he wrote: “Without violence, nothing is ever accomplished in history.” But then he asks, “Is it a misfortune that magnificent California was seized from the lazy Mexicans who did not know what to do with it?”

Marx—whose grandparents were Jewish, but whose parents converted to Christianity—wasn’t a fan of his ancestral religion either, writing in his essay “On the Jewish Question”:

“What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money . … Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist,” Marx wrote in the book—which critics have later described as virulently anti-Semitic.
“Money degrades all the gods of man—and turns them into commodities. … The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange. … The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general.”

flood

Jacob Nelson
Jacob Nelson

Would you like to read Marx discussing Jews with Bruno Bauer?

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/jewish-question/

Adrian Ross
Adrian Ross

Would you like to read Marx discussing Jews with Bruno Bauer?

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/jewish-question/
flood

Isaac Bailey
Isaac Bailey

Would you like to read Marx discussing Jews with Bruno Bauer?

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/jewish-question/
flood

Sebastian Flores
Sebastian Flores

wew, it's fixed

Robert Miller
Robert Miller

tell us some of the things he says then why don't you.

Jason Flores
Jason Flores

A lot of Marx's observations are legit. His proposed solutions are full retard that fail to account for human nature because Marxism assumes Tabula Rasa.

John Rogers
John Rogers

says is legit

You completely failed to name one thing "legit".

Liam Scott
Liam Scott

as supply increases, the price increases
as demand increases, the price decreases

Matthew Martinez
Matthew Martinez

mfw cars and houses are bloody expensive
mfw there is enough of them to go around for everyone

capitalists are this dumb

Kayden Clark
Kayden Clark

as supply increases, the price increases
Other way around, moron. As price increases, the supply increases.
as demand increases, the price decreases
Other way around, moron. As price decreases, demand increases.

Jose James
Jose James

he's commenting on the graph

Aiden Campbell
Aiden Campbell

That IS what the graph says, moron.

Alexander Hernandez
Alexander Hernandez

In the graph, demands quantity goes up and the price goes down.

Kill yourself.

Benjamin Thompson
Benjamin Thompson

This has got to be the most low energy shill post I have ever seen.

Like, are you even trying? I'm /pol/ guise Marx is really super cool!

Alexander Torres
Alexander Torres

Do you not know how to read a graph? The axes are the thing you set, not the lines.

Carson Cook
Carson Cook

trusting the words of ajew

Austin Campbell
Austin Campbell

what the seller is asking
how many will be made for the price
how many sold at the price

You think the economy is just fucking magic? You have to calculate how much it costs to MAKE the product.
This includes factoring in how much labor, how much material, etc.

Fucking commie.

Jeremiah King
Jeremiah King

This is capitalist econ, moron. And the price is effected by the cost of production. These graphs are used as visual aides for determining the effect some legislation will have on the economy. Really common sense stuff, tbh.
The general assumption is that a completely free market will always tend towards equilibrium.
If the government fixed a price on a given good below equilibrium value (ie, you may not sell this product for any more than this price) you end up selling more than you can produce through market forces alone. Fewer people will work in a low profit business while more people will afford buying the products of this industry.
If the government set a minimum price for a certain thing above equilibrium value, you end up with a surplus of that good. More people will be willing to work in a high profit field and therefore produce more, while less people are going to be able to afford this product.

Jace Morgan
Jace Morgan

this is actually how it's represented

who the hell makes a graph like this

Nicholas Evans
Nicholas Evans

like i said here It's for visual aide purposes, mainly. you don't really plug hard numbers in these graphs as much as apply your understanding of how certain things will shift the lines one way or another. Like a new technological advancement will translate the supply curve rightward resulting in a lower equilibrium price at a greater quantity relative to the previous equilibrium.

Joshua Wood
Joshua Wood

Can't tell if trolling, shilling, or just retarded.

Christian Sullivan
Christian Sullivan

That's the point. Lower price = greater demand.
People buy more shit when it's cheaper.

Carter Rogers
Carter Rogers

This thread is pathetic and reflects upon the knee jerk reaction of arm chair economists that have no fucking clue about the most basic of how an economy functions. You all need to stick to your lanes before you delve into something without knowledge of it like a pretentious retard.

Let us look at Marx purely from an economic perspective, not one that has been corrupted by the very jews he disowned and revisionists that wish to twist his theories to represent social issues rather than purely economic ones. His social values included really the destruction of the individual when summed up in its entirety. The reason why this is so is because in order for a collectivized economy to work, you must eliminate the values one has placed upon his works and the useless commodities such as currency for ones actions. If most of you had read Kapital, this is what he outlines.

In no way was this too make everyone feel giddy and gleeful because of a new found equality amongst everyone, sure that keeps the workers moving as a cohesive unit, but at the end of the day this is about raw production without limitation and middlemen such as money or business heirarchy getting in the way. The statement of Marx is simply this: If we need it, we have the means in order to produce it at will. If you look at it from this perspective, you can understand how this with proper care can be implemented fantastically. Adolf Hitler, say what you will about him, gave us a near ideal Socialist state by taking the foundations of Marxism and picking up and correcting where Karl had left off. Adolf had realized that the dream of Marx did not fall into what the human mind would allow, it needed individualism and a sense of determination and focus to drive it onward into a productive utopia. It gave the people exactly what they needed, a sense of purpose and belonging along with the drive to produce what was to be needed of the nation.

The battle most of you are fighting has been taught to you by our bipartisan ideology of leftism vs rightism. In reality, there is no such thing as the left or right in trying to create an ideal future for the people. Hitler knew this, Lenin knew this, and Stalin knew this. It is why many of those who deal in the political theory section of the argument are so baffled by the ideological "contradictions" of these three men, when in reality these minds were far beyond petty partisan bickering.

Gavin Clark
Gavin Clark

The thing about /pol/ is that they have never actually been redpilled, they merely are aware that something isn't right in the world.

They look around themselves and see people like themselves getting the short end of the stick. They see that hard working people cannot get ahead and realize that some of the narratives about society conventionally held by most don't hold true in real life. When looking around for the cause of these social ills, however, they find the wrong targets, targets rooted in prejudice.

When they look up at managers selling out their fellow workers for the possibility of promotion and stock options, they focus on women and minorities as managers instead of the practice of stepping on the laborer to squeeze out more revenue. They say "I can't get ahead because of mandatory diversity" instead of "I can't get ahead because I am being exploited".

When they look past this at their companies stock holders, they see financial firms. Financial firms that, until recently, wouldn't allow a non-WASP through the front door. These firms trade their stocks on behalf of wealthy investors, and the richest of these investors hire firms to manage their investments, which are traded by other firms. A number of people of Jewish descent work in low end firms, and some have migrated into the so called White-Shoe firms that service wealthy and powerful clientele now that social restrictions have eased. They focus on the people used as surrogate laborers for the wealthy and think "aha, I've found the culprit".

The Capitalist himself is invisible to the people of /pol/. They live in a layer of reality that /pol/ blinds itself to with hate. The real redpill is realizing that much the pushback against class oppression inherent in the system is being channeled in the form of oppression of those who are not like ourselves, and the pushback against that oppression bleeds momentum from those not blinded.

You accept the red pill, you can stay and see how deep the rabbit hole goes. You take the blue pill, and you go back to posting about how the Jews are behind everything even though the facts don't pan out.

Gavin Cook
Gavin Cook

If you went /pol/ to Marx, you were never well read to begin with. Honestly, you're just redneck-level racist inbred white trash, admit it.

Gabriel Powell
Gabriel Powell

one of the things about karl's books, is that he was genuine and really thought his ideals were applicable. he really thought if those ideals were to be put in place, society would be better and blah blah blah. he thought a thing like communism would only work in already successful societies (like britannia), but reality hits you hard. communism turned out a shit, as pictured by other philosophers, before it was implemented. also, karl was a shitty, shitty person. never worked a day in his life, had a bastard son and didn't want to raise it, leeched off engles to publish for him. all of these are reasons good enough to denounce his ideology and him without mentioning he's a filthy, filthy kike. don't be a dickturd, read at least two of his books (das capital, communist manifesto).

Brody Harris
Brody Harris

karl marx is a liar jew (like all jews)

his book doesnt cover money creation and over-regulation (most important economic aspect)
it also ignores kiddie science of demand and supply.

the good thing is its kills muslims and christcucks and eve kikes without mercy which the stupid nazis failed to do

Nathaniel Howard
Nathaniel Howard

that pic
muh individuality person have can only be measured by amount of possessions he have
Marx was against this false individualism where many must be alienated in order to satisfy needs of a few freeloaders. Marx, although not directly saying word "individualism", told that anyone's individualism should be reflected by he's work because everyone should have work he can be proud of.

marx was racist piece of shit
this is how cultural marxism actually looks like

Owen Baker
Owen Baker

I hate communists way more than I hate capitalists.
But… I hate Capitalism somewhat more than I hate Socialism.

As said before, you can and maybe should, if you have already read more essential texts, have a reading of Marx from a /pol/ perspective. Focusing ofc on his analysis not his solutions.

The most essential guy from the Left that basically anyone should read given the present world, and even more if you are into politics fro any side, is Guy Debord. His take on the relation between culture and politics can give you a lot of strength in focusing your energy on real key issues instead of falling into literal traps to the mind presented by the world of this century and the last.
In his point of focusing on actual politics and not minor issues that will not present actual change, he ironically ends up mirroring a lot of Carl Schmidt

Ryder Rodriguez
Ryder Rodriguez

individualism should be reflected by he's work because everyone should have work he can be proud of.
some much from the guy who never worked a day in his life

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