Drunk people can't give consent

Ryder Ross
Ryder Ross

So does that mean if I got drunk then forcibly and violently crammed my dick in a sober woman, I would be a victim of rape?

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https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/920
Jacob Cooper
Jacob Cooper

Yeah if you have one drink then rape someone it means you were actually raped because you weren't able to consent and they still had sex with you.

Nicholas Morgan
Nicholas Morgan

remember - thats not how it works at all

Joshua Hill
Joshua Hill

How does it work then?
I couldn't give consent to that sex I just had. How is that not rape?

Henry Moore
Henry Moore

if u r drunk and dont say "no", its not rape. If u didnt want to have that sex, u shouldntve drunk. That wouldntve lowered your inhibitions or prompt u to do irrational, or regretful things

Owen Harris
Owen Harris

if u r drunk and dont say "no", its not rape
Ok, what if i get drunk and rape someone while screaming "no?" Then was I raped?

Brody Phillips
Brody Phillips

Cops, psychologists, judges, attorneys, nobody believes (legitimate) male rape victims. Hell, they don't even believe female victims. It's extremely fucking hard trying to prove you were raped, and even if there's plenty of physical evidence, even if you got the whole thing on camera plus twenty eyewitnesses – people won't care. Because the legal system is one giant asshole. You stand no chance, OP.

Nicholas Gomez
Nicholas Gomez

cctv tape shows u as a perpetrator

Carter Wright
Carter Wright

but then again rape is hard to prove, so if theres no recording and ull be the 1st to call the cops, u might have a case

Jace Jackson
Jace Jackson

But I was drunk. Under the letter of the law I could not provide consent.
AND the tape would show me screaming "no."

Zachary Cook
Zachary Cook

theres no letter of law about drunk sex

Parker Cruz
Parker Cruz

and the tape wouldve showed u assaulting her, so u r the perpetrator

Jayden Parker
Jayden Parker

yes there is, but upon further examination it's vague as to how drunk one can be. Basically it's rape if they're "too drunk."

Joseph Young
Joseph Young

show me that law

Juan Jones
Juan Jones

10 U.S. Code § 920 - Art. 120.
It's sexual assault really.
(3) commits a sexual act upon another person when the other person is incapable of consenting to the sexual act due to—
(A) impairment by any drug, intoxicant, or other similar substance, and that condition is known or reasonably should be known by the person; or

Charles White
Charles White

Also, I'll have you know Commiefornia did, in fact, pass a "yes means yes" law. An accusation of rape is assumed true unless evidence is provided that consent was given.

Christian Diaz
Christian Diaz

thats some dumb laws u got there

Easton Stewart
Easton Stewart

Why do you think im taking the piss out of them?

Austin Perry
Austin Perry

people who are sleep deprived can't give consent
people who are malnourished can't give consent
women can't give consent outside of marriage

Robert White
Robert White

As long as she has no proof (bruises, etc) that it was forced, then yes.
Good fucking luck convincing the jury of that though, they always side with the woman

Robert Clark
Robert Clark

well here's the entirety of the law if you're curious:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/920
(a)Rape.—Any person subject to this chapter who commits a sexual act upon another person by—
(1) using unlawful force against that other person;
(2) using force causing or likely to cause death or grievous bodily harm to any person;
(3) threatening or placing that other person in fear that any person will be subjected to death, grievous bodily harm, or kidnapping;
(4) first rendering that other person unconscious; or
(5) administering to that other person by force or threat of force, or without the knowledge or consent of that person, a drug, intoxicant, or other similar substance and thereby substantially impairing the ability of that other person to appraise or control conduct;
is guilty of rape and shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
(b)Sexual Assault.—Any person subject to this chapter who—
(1) commits a sexual act upon another person by—
(A) threatening or placing that other person in fear;
(B) causing bodily harm to that other person;
(C) making a fraudulent representation that the sexual act serves a professional purpose; or
(D) inducing a belief by any artifice, pretense, or concealment that the person is another person;
(2) commits a sexual act upon another person when the person knows or reasonably should know that the other person is asleep, unconscious, or otherwise unaware that the sexual act is occurring; or
(3) commits a sexual act upon another person when the other person is incapable of consenting to the sexual act due to—
(A) impairment by any drug, intoxicant, or other similar substance, and that condition is known or reasonably should be known by the person; or
(B) a mental disease or defect, or physical disability, and that condition is known or reasonably should be known by the person;
is guilty of sexual assault and shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
(c)Aggravated Sexual Contact.—
Any person subject to this chapter who commits or causes sexual contact upon or by another person, if to do so would violate subsection (a) (rape) had the sexual contact been a sexual act, is guilty of aggravated sexual contact and shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
(d)Abusive Sexual Contact.—
Any person subject to this chapter who commits or causes sexual contact upon or by another person, if to do so would violate subsection (b) (sexual assault) had the sexual contact been a sexual act, is guilty of abusive sexual contact and shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
(e)Proof of Threat.—
In a prosecution under this section, in proving that a person made a threat, it need not be proven that the person actually intended to carry out the threat or had the ability to carry out the threat.
(f)Defenses.—
An accused may raise any applicable defenses available under this chapter or the Rules for Court-Martial. Marriage is not a defense for any conduct in issue in any prosecution under this section.

Definitions up next.

Connor Cooper
Connor Cooper

(g)Definitions.—In this section:
(1)Sexual act.—The term “sexual act” means—
(A) contact between the penis and the vulva or anus or mouth, and for purposes of this subparagraph contact involving the penis occurs upon penetration, however slight; or
(B) the penetration, however slight, of the vulva or anus or mouth, of another by any part of the body or by any object, with an intent to abuse, humiliate, harass, or degrade any person or to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person.
(2)Sexual contact.—The term “sexual contact” means—
(A) touching, or causing another person to touch, either directly or through the clothing, the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of any person, with an intent to abuse, humiliate, or degrade any person; or
(B) any touching, or causing another person to touch, either directly or through the clothing, any body part of any person, if done with an intent to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person.
Touching may be accomplished by any part of the body.
(3)Bodily harm.—
The term “bodily harm” means any offensive touching of another, however slight, including any nonconsensual sexual act or nonconsensual sexual contact.
(4)Grievous bodily harm.—
The term “grievous bodily harm” means serious bodily injury. It includes fractured or dislocated bones, deep cuts, torn members of the body, serious damage to internal organs, and other severe bodily injuries. It does not include minor injuries such as a black eye or a bloody nose.
(5)Force.—The term “force” means—
(A) the use of a weapon;
(B) the use of such physical strength or violence as is sufficient to overcome, restrain, or injure a person; or
(C) inflicting physical harm sufficient to coerce or compel submission by the victim.
(6)Unlawful force.—
The term “unlawful force” means an act of force done without legal justification or excuse.
(7)Threatening or placing that other person in fear.—
The term “threatening or placing that other person in fear” means a communication or action that is of sufficient consequence to cause a reasonable fear that non-compliance will result in the victim or another person being subjected to the wrongful action contemplated by the communication or action.
(8)Consent.—
(A) The term “consent” means a freely given agreement to the conduct at issue by a competent person. An expression of lack of consent through words or conduct means there is no consent. Lack of verbal or physical resistance or submission resulting from the use of force, threat of force, or placing another person in fear does not constitute consent. A current or previous dating or social or sexual relationship by itself or the manner of dress of the person involved with the accused in the conduct at issue shall not constitute consent.
(B) A sleeping, unconscious, or incompetent person cannot consent. A person cannot consent to force causing or likely to cause death or grievous bodily harm or to being rendered unconscious. A person cannot consent while under threat or in fear or under the circumstances described in subparagraph (C) or (D) of subsection (b)(1).
(C) Lack of consent may be inferred based on the circumstances of the offense. All the surrounding circumstances are to be considered in determining whether a person gave consent, or whether a person did not resist or ceased to resist only because of another person’s actions.

Isaac James
Isaac James

that has to do with all the dumb bitches "going back" on their consent and a couple weeks later or because they're fat and they want people to think they're desirable. I call it fat bitch syndrome.

Josiah Fisher
Josiah Fisher

Tbh, if fraudulent rape charges weren't so common, nobody would have any problem taking a woman at her word if she claimed to be raped.
It's a sad state of affairs when whether you believe someone had a crime committed to them is contingent on your political views. No other crime has ever been so politicized.

Wyatt Lee
Wyatt Lee

ya'll really got into this topic.

Parker Garcia
Parker Garcia

People who are intoxicated are held responsible for their actions when they kill someone driving. The basis for this is that the individual consumed the alcohol voluntarily, claiming responsibility for their actions while under the influence, and they were punished for what they did. Consent to sex should be no different.

Owen Ross
Owen Ross

i agree with this

Carson Peterson
Carson Peterson

No because rape is about privilege plus power. Woman have no privilege nor power so they cant rape.

Liam Bennett
Liam Bennett

Is that so? Have you ever heard of having a knitting needle forced down your urethra in order for it to maintain a shape and being mounted? Granted, these cases are rare worldwide, but is does happen.

Easton Bennett
Easton Bennett

You're not eligible if you're male.

Anthony Lee
Anthony Lee

You're a guy, so therefore you're always a rapist, regardless of circumstances and whether or not there was even any sexual contact, because feminism.

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