Merkel's Fate Left to Social Democrats

Blake Clark
Blake Clark

SPD leaders will have to convince members to approve the coalition at a Jan. 21 party congress and again in a postal vote at the conclusion of formal coalition negotiations.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-politics/german-social-democratic-leaders-beg-members-to-back-deal-with-merkel-idUSKBN1F10EO

German Social Democratic leaders beg members to back deal with Merkel
German Social Democratic (SPD) leaders appealed to party members on Friday to swallow their doubts and endorse an overnight deal to renew a “grand coalition” with Chancellor Angela Merkel’s conservatives for another four years.
The deal eased months of uncertainty that has undermined Germany’s role as the European Union’s pivotal power as the bloc confronts major challenges including Brexit, euro zone reform and immigration, and raised questions about Merkel’s future.
“The world will not wait for us,” a weary-looking Merkel said on Friday morning after 25 hours of talks, which yielded a deal opening the way to formal negotiations on the details.
But some in the wary SPD rank-and-file said the deal lacked sufficient concessions to the center-left party, which after four years of sometimes awkward coalition with Merkel suffered its worst election result last September since 1933.
Christian Democratic lawmakers greeted their leader with a round of applause when she outlined the deal, which pledged closer cooperation with France to strengthen the euro zone and a crackdown on arms sales to countries in conflict zones.
But SPD leaders will have a harder time convincing members to approve the deal at a Jan. 21 party congress and again in a postal vote at the conclusion of formal coalition negotiations.
“The SPD got its way in many areas,” senior SPD parliamentarian Hubertus Heil told public broadcaster RBB in what is likely to be the first of many such entreaties to rank-and-file over the coming week.
SPD chairman Martin Schulz was addressing them when, standing alongside Merkel, he told reporters that the outline deal would preserve and strengthen Germany’s welfare state for future generations.
“From the kindergarten to the school, to the university and the workplace and then on into old age and care homes, we want to strengthen respect, opportunity and solidarity, and bring these systems up to date,” he said.

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Adam Turner
Adam Turner

succdems being classcuck bitches again, what's new. Merkel is fucked either way.

Ryder Ortiz
Ryder Ortiz

end her you cowards

Isaiah Gutierrez
Isaiah Gutierrez

Should the succdems throw out the coalition and cause another election?

Grayson Cox
Grayson Cox

Yes but they won't because they're all neoliberal pozzed cowards.

Jaxson Reed
Jaxson Reed

If the SPD abandons Merkel she will be coup'd by the Bavarian wing of her own party. the new CDU will very likely enter some coalition with the AfD (and the Liberals, who have already indicated their crypto-fashism), with or without the new elections. The left has nothing to gain from finishing off Merkel.

Mason Morales
Mason Morales

IT SERVES HER RIGHT

SHE TRUSTED A ROSE

Christopher Murphy
Christopher Murphy

The left has nothing to gain from finishing off Merkel.
What happened to Schulz last year?

Joseph Thomas
Joseph Thomas

Was there any other possible outcome to begin with? Let's say the SPD won the election, what would have changed? Coalition with the Greens isn't mathematically possible due to the new influx of the AfD, and the SPD would rather go beneath 15% before even considering making a coalition with Die Linke.

Even if Merkel finally resigns in four years, the situation wouldn't change at all. Congratulations Merkel, you managed to make the country absolutely fucking ungovernable after 12 years of reign, and I predict it's going to end up with three possible scenarios in four years:

- minority government of the conservatives

- coalition with the AfD (Austria 2.0)

- actual leftists get purged in Die Linke and a coalition between SPD, Green and Linke

Considering that none of these options are going to change anything, let alone the upcoming "GroKo", this country is in for a massive dumpsterfire in 2026 at least, if the current trend isn't stopped, which is: Stagnating low wages, skyrocketing rents, child poverty, elderly poverty, infrastructural decay, decrease of economic power due to low investment and absent innovation. By mid-2020s, we also get a whole new generation entering retirement age which is going to be a complete welfare case and will have to collect bottles to even get food to eat.

Jayden Taylor
Jayden Taylor

Don't be misled by the weird article headline, the exact opposite happened today: The SPD agreed to coalition talks, Merkel has them completely cucked, Merkel's fate doesn't "hinge" on the SPD. They are her lapdogs.

No idea why Reuters would choose such a misleading headline.

Owen Murphy
Owen Murphy

(pre-election(!)) polls

Logan Hill
Logan Hill

The left has nothing to gain by finishing off Merkel

Are you fucking serious? After what she did to Europe? Who cares if she gets couped, that's her problem.

OMG muh AfD Nazis will get in!

Same retarded rhetoric that allowed Macron free reign over France. Let them get into power and start fucking things up like Trump is doing. Voters will get sick of them and will radicalize to the left.

Christian Ross
Christian Ross

The SPD membership has to vote on approving the coalition.

James Brown
James Brown

JUST

Caleb Nguyen
Caleb Nguyen

Unlikely that they are going to vote against it. They are going to be ideologically conditioned for weeks before that approval vote, there will be lots of talks about "responsibility", "the voter must be respected" or "better than the CDU alone". I personally know a few SPD members, and they are all 45-60 year old teachers who can't stop talking about "responsibility" and "reason" (codewords for supporting neoliberalism and austerity). They weren't necessarily opposed to a Merkel coalition as well because muh AfD and muh left-extremists.

The only faction in the SPD that is probably against the coalition are the JusSos. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'd love to see that Merkel bitch burn and the SPD base putting their leadership im place, but experience with this horrible party makes me disillusioned. Remember the last time the SPD base had to vote for something? They fucking approved CETA. It's better to have to expectations at all.

Jaxon Myers
Jaxon Myers

weeks
It's in 9 days, but yes they will be spooked to hell.

Ian Long
Ian Long

Trump is literally retarded tho. You guys legitimately have semi competent neo nazi's.

Daniel Perez
Daniel Perez

Who dat? AfD?

Blake Watson
Blake Watson

AfD aren't Nazis. They are lukewarm national liberals, like the DVP in Weimar. Their leader is a lesbian Goldman-Sachs banker, for God's sake.

Easton Miller
Easton Miller

Didn't Schultz lately tweeted that he wants to build European Federation, ergo Fourth Reich?

Daniel Morgan
Daniel Morgan

Their ads in 2017 were kinda fucked in the head tho

Cameron Ortiz
Cameron Ortiz

lesbian goldman-sachs banker

sounds hot tbh; would hatefuck

Xavier Cook
Xavier Cook

politician runs their fucking mouth
taking them seriously
Right-wing populists are cucks.

David Perez
David Perez

They were pretty consistent with an ethnonationalist message, even if it was watered down
(Though to be honest I think that probably cost them seats. If they were straight civnats they would probably be north of 17%)

Charles Reed
Charles Reed

I forgot to ask, is "nazischlampe" the german equivalent of "drumpf" in that it's an impotent, feeble insult liberals use or is it actually edgy

Jonathan Fisher
Jonathan Fisher

coalition with AfD
Siri what is a cordon sanitaire

Leo Miller
Leo Miller

female equivalent to drumpf? What do you mean? Its a slur for Nazi women, most used in punk rock, I guess.

I've never heard anyone calling Merkel a Nazischlampe.

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