Mike Pence once ratted out his fraternity brothers for having a keg. Then Became Virtual Recluse

Charles Wood
Charles Wood

Vice President Mike Pence reportedly snitched on his Phi Gamma Delta fraternity brothers for having a keg at a party on his college’s dry campus and got his entire house in trouble.

Pence, then a sophomore at Hanover College, alerted the dean that his brothers were violating the small Presbyterian school’s strict no-alcohol policy, his former fraternity brother Dan Murphy told The Atlantic in a profile published on Tuesday.

A devout Christian through most of his life, and a staunch creationist, former classmates having met with Pence said he lived a double life in high school and into college, frequently harassing women, and threatening them with social consquences after, as he feared his behavior would ruin his families spotless reputation in the community. This goes against much of what people have observed about Pence's adult life, where he has been noted as particularly reserved and quiet. In one picture from his time at the fraternity, in which he’s donning a fortune teller costume, Pence, who believes that women and men should never dine alone, smugly looks at the camera while a woman sits on his lap.

Pence would suddenly and abruptly stop and tried to destroy the reputation of anyone and everyone who was part of the fraternity.

At the time of the incident, the fraternity was reportedly having wild parties re-creating its favorite scenes from Animal House, which had recently been released. Pence “was not a particularly hard partier” but oversaw his brothers’ complicated plans to sneak alcohol into the house and was in charge of ironing out any issues with adults if things went wrong.

During one rowdy bash, the brothers found out a dean was coming to the house and tried to hide evidence of their illicit activities, according to the article.

The future vice president greeted the dean at the door and proceeded to direct him straight to the kegs, telling the official they belonged to Phi Gamma Delta, his former brother said.

This was a major departure from the fraternity’s usual practice: Whoever answered the door took the blame for the booze so the whole house wasn’t formally disciplined, according to Murphy. But after Pence allegedly snitched, the entire fraternity was handed a harsh punishment.

“They really raked us over the coals. The whole house was locked down,” Murphy told the magazine. "Everyone started shouting at Pence and we mostly din't associate with him afterwards, he started becoming someone we didn't know. He was less free spirited and more religious and more isolated, and spiteful towards people he used to be friends with."

Murphy concluded, "He stopped making that many friends when someone came up to him and apologized for letting things get out of hand, and he declined to accept the apology and basically said 'I'm getting over my sin, try getting over yours, your breath smells of it.' It was really the single night that fractured all our friendship with Pence, he became reclusive. It was like he just switched off that night, we knew he always religious but he never actually started using it as a weapon on campus until then. He started holding grudges over petty disputes and people he considered sinners. He didn't show loyalty to anyone he associated with, and people just stayed away from him a that point. If you were around Pence, he would judge you for not doing 'What's right' and 'Sinning' and would blackmail people who he thought were ruining the campus by not obeying the word of God."

"The only people he ended up being friends with at an age where people were having fun, was the older school administration."

He wasn’t a particularly stellar student and had a B average, according to The Atlantic. An evangelical Christian, he once attended a music festival billed as the Christian Woodstock and spent days “rocking out to Jesus-loving prog-rock bands and born-again Bob Dylan imitators.” Despite being targeted for teenagers in high school, mostly songs about listening to law enforcement and staying away from Drugs, Pence well into his college years would always come to local small community gatherings with noise complaints to people within the area, as they started later and later at night. Pence went even if it started at 10 to 11pm.

The future vice president reportedly “agonized over his ‘calling’” and talked about becoming a priest, Murphy said, although it was “obvious” that Pence wanted to be a politician one day. "He always wanted total control over a community, wherever he went, and he would do that by manipulating other people into ripping friendships apart so they would stop doing what he thought was against God."

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Sebastian Powell
Sebastian Powell

tl;dr Mike Pence is a sociopath

Oliver Hill
Oliver Hill

Wow, Mike Pence is a snitch and a cunt? I totally couldn't tell that just by looking at him.

Ethan Taylor
Ethan Taylor

Snitches get stitches

Jordan Peterson
Jordan Peterson

Indeed, it was just a year after Pence’s born-again experience in Kentucky that Jerry Falwell founded the Moral Majority, a national movement that aimed to turn Christian voters into a pavement-pounding political force. In the decades that followed, white evangelicals forged an alliance with conservative Catholics to fight abortion, gay marriage, and an encroaching secularism that they saw as a threat to their religious freedom. With conservative believers feeling under siege, denominational differences began to melt away.

In 1988, at age 29, Pence launched his first bid for Congress. He garnered attention by riding a single-speed bicycle around his district in sneakers and short shorts, dodging aggravated motorists and drumming up conversations with prospective voters on the sidewalk. It was a perfectly Pencian gimmick—earnest, almost unbearably cheesy—and it helped him win the Republican nomination. But he was unable to defeat the Democratic incumbent, Phil Sharp.

He was furious, as he believed God was on his side, and one cannot lose if you hold faith in Christ. But most people said it was his cover, his ego was bruised. It was the one time in his life, where he lost having control over an environment. It created a grudge he would soon not forget towards people he made a sarcastic "kill list" for.

Pence tried again two years later, this time ditching the bike in favor of vicious attack ads. The race is remembered as one of the nastiest in Indiana history. In one notorious Pence campaign spot, an actor dressed as a cartoonish Arab sheikh thanked Sharp for advancing the interests of foreign oil. The tone of the campaign was jarring coming from a candidate who had nurtured such a wholesome image, a contrast memorably captured in an Indianapolis Star headline: “Pence Urges Clean Campaign, Calls Opponent a Liar.” He ended up losing by 19 points after it was revealed that he was using campaign funds to pay his mortgage and grocery bills (a practice that was then legal but has since been outlawed). This only fueled his rage beyond a tipping a point, people did not want him in power and he felt his entire community betrayed him. And from then on, he became cynical over even his own community he wanted to represent. Less about preserving a Christian community, and more about "Steering the community away from the wrong path against God." It still sounded like he once against lost his chance to become a politician, a position that at his second loss, he now aspired to.

Charles Ortiz
Charles Ortiz

Afterward, a Pence attempted public repentance by personal essay. His article, “Confessions of a Negative Campaigner,” ran in newspapers across the state. “Christ Jesus came to save sinners,” the essay began, quoting 1 Timothy, “among whom I am foremost of all.”

With two failed congressional bids behind him, Pence decided to change tack. In 1992, he debuted a conservative talk-radio show that he described as “Rush Limbaugh on decaf.” The quaint joke belied the meticulousness with which Pence went about building his local media empire. “He knew exactly what he wanted his brand to be and who his audience was,” says Ed Feigenbaum, the publisher of a state-politics tip sheet, whom Pence often consulted. Most of his listeners were “retirees and conservative housewives,” Feigenbaum says, and Pence carefully catered to them. Over the next eight years, he expanded his radio show to 18 markets, started hosting a talk show on a local TV station, launched a proto-blog, and published a newsletter, “The Pence Report,” which locals remember primarily for its frequent typos and Pence’s lovingly drawn political cartoons.

“His Mikeness,” as he became known on the air, began each radio show with a signature opening line—“Greetings across the amber waves of grain”—and filled the hours with a mix of interviews, listener calls, and medium-hot takes. Pence’s commentary from this period is a near-perfect time capsule of ’90s culture-war trivia. He railed against assisted suicide (“Kevorkian is a monster”) and fretted about the insufficient punishment given to a female Air Force pilot who had engaged in an extramarital affair (“Is adultery no longer a big deal in Indiana and in America?”). He mounted a rousing defense of Big Tobacco (“Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media, smoking doesn’t kill”) and lamented parents’ growing reliance on day care (pop culture “has sold the big lie that ‘Mom doesn’t matter’ ”).

Pence also demonstrated a knack for seizing on more-creative wedge issues. For instance, a 1995 initiative to reintroduce otters into Indiana’s wildlife population became, in Pence’s able hands, a frightening example of Big Government run amok. “State-sanctioned, sanitized otters today,” he warned, ominously. “Buffaloes tomorrow? When we aren't able to hunt life God has graced us with, who will will he hunt?”

Gabriel Hernandez
Gabriel Hernandez

Despite Pence’s on-air culture-warring, he rarely came off as disagreeable. He had engineered a persona that was so kind hearted it seemed, that he wasn't using his media as a way to become what he really wanted since he lost twice, a politician. Sources confided that he still loathed the community he would make his radio show for, for not electing him. However people did not know the behind the scenes social engineering he was attempting, and people began listening to his radio show more, as he spoke in a relaxed drawl over topics that pressed community buttons. He liked to describe himself as “a Christian, a conservative, and a Republican, in that order,” and he was careful to show respect for opposing viewpoints. “Nobody ever left an interview not liking Mike,” says Scott Uecker, the radio executive who oversaw Pence’s show.

By the time a congressional seat opened up ahead of the 2000 election, Pence was a minor Indiana celebrity and state Republicans were urging him to run. In the summer of 1999, as he was mulling the decision, he took his family on a trip to Colorado. One day while horseback riding in the mountains, he and Karen looked heavenward and saw two red-tailed hawks soaring over them. They took it as a sign, Karen recalled years later: Pence would run again, but this time there would be “no flapping.” He would glide to victory.

Jaxon Moore
Jaxon Moore

,>Pence is the average protestant christian ameriburger
Whats the point of this

Elijah Rivera
Elijah Rivera

To his new colleagues on Capitol Hill, that he rarely met with—an overwhelmingly secular place where even many Republicans privately sneered at the people Pence wanted to "convert"—everything about the Indiana congressman screamed “Bible thumper.” He was known to force his staffers to pray with him, and often cited scripture, or even The Torah, to explain his votes. In a 2002 interview with Congressional Quarterly, for example, he explained, “My support for Israel stems largely from my personal faith. In the Bible, God promises Abraham, ‘Those who bless you I will bless, and those who curse you I will curse.’ ” He became a champion of the fight to restrict abortion and defund Planned Parenthood.

However this did not make Pence many friends in Washington. In fact, they all hated him.

Pence didn’t have a reputation for legislative acumen (“I would not call Mike a policy wonk,” one former staffer told the Indianapolis Monthly), and some of his colleagues called him a nickname behind his back: “Mike Dense.”

Nathaniel Hughes
Nathaniel Hughes

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/01/gods-plan-for-mike-pence/546569/

Gavin Wright
Gavin Wright

Nice quads.

Wyatt Perez
Wyatt Perez

One day while horseback riding in the mountains, he and Karen looked heavenward and saw two red-tailed hawks soaring over them. They took it as a sign, Karen recalled years later: Pence would run again, but this time there would be “no flapping.” He would glide to victory.
Somehow, this is the worst part to me.

David Martin
David Martin

But he did have sharp political instincts. He didn't need his colleagues. He needed their friends, just as his days in college, Pence would become manipulative against people he loathed,and people who loathed him back. He needed lobbying power, and the mega rich Christian Evanelicals who largely controlled the Southern Strategy voting bloc his colleagues relied on. Many felt the people they relied on for their votes, soon became the politician, and they were worried if he had too much power he would go out of control. Before long, he was climbing the leadership ranks and making connections with key figures in the conservative-Christian establishment. The New Yorker’s Jane Mayer has documented Pence’s close ties to the Koch brothers and other GOP mega-donors, but his roots in the religious right are even deeper. In 2011, as he began plotting a presidential run in the upcoming election cycle, Pence met with Ralph Reed, the evangelical power broker, to seek his advice.

Reed told Pence he should return home and get elected governor of Indiana first, then use the statehouse as a launching pad for a presidential bid. He said a few years in the governor’s mansion—combined with his deep support on the Christian right—would make him a top-tier candidate in the 2016 primaries.But he did have sharp political instincts. Before long, he was climbing the leadership ranks and making connections with key figures in the conservative-Christian establishment. The New Yorker’s Jane Mayer has documented Pence’s close ties to the Koch brothers and other GOP mega-donors, but his roots in the religious right are even deeper. In 2011, as he began plotting a presidential run in the upcoming election cycle, Pence met with Ralph Reed, the evangelical power broker, to seek his advice.

Reed told Pence he should return home and get elected governor of Indiana first, then use the statehouse as a launching pad for a presidential bid. And with enormous Evangelical lobbying power, he became the Govenor of a state he once loathed for rejection, a state he said, he would "steer". He said a few years in the governor’s mansion—combined with his deep support on the Christian right—would make him a top-tier candidate in the 2016 primaries. Many have said Pence said, "I am the future president of the United States" to eager lobbyists.

Colton Rivera
Colton Rivera

Another close friend of Pence’s explained his constant need for control over others to me this way: “His faith teaches that you’re under authority at all times. Christ is under God’s authority, man is under Christ’s authority, children are under the parents’ authority, employees are under the employer’s authority.” Often times joking he added, "And they're all under my authority".

Jackson Diaz
Jackson Diaz

Sounds like how Holla Forums is run.

Jace Ward
Jace Ward

Holla Forums will churn out worse future American politicians than Mike Pence probably.

David James
David James

“It’s not a matter of when Republicans are ready to turn on Trump. It’s about when they decide they’re ready for President Pence.”

Kayden Davis
Kayden Davis

So basically,

Mike Pence is a soulless machine with a fake personality he's engineered his entire life, a smile that behind holds cool hot rage for a world he thinks is either full of sin or soon on the end times, who wants control and power over people like an abusive step father, and has for his entire life, adapting to becoming better and more strategic at it. And he justifies it all in his mind as biblical. His entire life has been about controlling other people and he's hell bent on becoming president.

Mike Pence is the Republican Hillary Clinton.

Michael Brown
Michael Brown

In a world of sinners the only true crime is having morals.

Henry Thomas
Henry Thomas

No wonder why every Democrat shitheel loves him.

Ayden Rodriguez
Ayden Rodriguez

I didn't know being generally manipulative and breaking up friendships with gossip was God's word, but hey, if enough White Christians do it

Luis Jenkins
Luis Jenkins

For some reason, reading this with "And There Will Your Heart Be Also" on is really fucking groovy.

Cameron Ward
Cameron Ward

This looks like it was drawn by Chris Chan.

Jack Martinez
Jack Martinez

and some of his colleagues called him a nickname behind his back: “Mike Dense.”

MIKE

DENSE

Juan Hernandez
Juan Hernandez

No it doesn't.
I was just admiring the colored pencil work - unblended, yet effective. Actually kind of inspiring. And the marker (or artist's pen?) work is fantastic.

William Morales
William Morales

hypocrisy
faithlessness to your peers
sexual harassment
lying
corruption
calling everyone who disagrees with you a "sinner"
The Spanish Reds had the right idea about you evil fucks. Anyone who upholds your so called "Christian morality" deserves the wall.

James Long
James Long

BUT JESUS WAS A SOCIALIST
BUT LIBERATION THEOLOGY

Christianity stabs the left in the back every single time. Church burnings when?

Luis Wilson
Luis Wilson

I was reading this hoping for a frighteningly virtuous man and all I got was a slimy social manipulator.
He really is Mike Piss.

John White
John White

This time, the politician will have a set of moral standards, I just know it!

lmao

Joshua Reed
Joshua Reed

Mike "If you got a keg imma report you niggas to the Feds" Pence

Seriously though. This man seems like the biggest case of no-fun ever. I guess this is what happens when you take anti-degenracy as a serious political praxis.

Carson Morgan
Carson Morgan

With how devout this makes Pence look, I honestly wonder what the fuck he signed on with Trump for. Surely he knew that not only Trump is everything he seems to hate about people, but it could also cost him political popularity

Hunter Cruz
Hunter Cruz

He knew that Trump would be so hated that the country would be cool with his horrific theology.

Matthew Young
Matthew Young

Even if he believes that, it's a huge gamble.

Evan Adams
Evan Adams

Mike Pence did nothing wrong

Hudson Rodriguez
Hudson Rodriguez

"I want to become president of the United States, and I will use all in my power to become it, for it is my destiny, and mine alone. I'm going to shoot for this hoop my whole entire life, and I am totally not a sociopath. Give me your votes."

t. Hillary Clinton and Mike Pence

Julian Russell
Julian Russell

There've been recent reports suggesting that Pence and Priebus were planning a sort of coup at one point. Pence's wife is apparently disgusted by Trump - the "I'll look less bad" theory is probably on the money.

Christian Carter
Christian Carter

That image
Disgusting. Daily reminder that Christ came for the conquered not the conqueror.

Joseph King
Joseph King

I never doubted it, I just think he might be betting on him coming out of this term looking clean. His silence is audible, I wouldn't doubt this is his strategy. But it seems to bold, and remember he did lose twice before he turned himself into a self help politician for the Conservative right. This seems like an over step on his part. I could be wrong.

Isaiah Reed
Isaiah Reed

Christians like Pence always use the church as a crutch for their own personal shortcomings rather than as a tool to attain salvation/liberation. I hate them so fucking much.

David Lee
David Lee

t. Most of people of power
fixed for you

Jace Roberts
Jace Roberts

capitalist whore
Warmonger and profiteer
Protestant
Every. Single. Time.

Jaxson Evans
Jaxson Evans

True enough.

Wyatt Jones
Wyatt Jones

Deuteronomy 13:5

Adam Sanchez
Adam Sanchez

Mike Pence thinks he's fucking Revolver Ocelot

Alexander Reed
Alexander Reed

So you want us to like Mike Pence for being a controlling doting mother his entire life on his entire community until he courted the far right religious voting bloc of America, playing politics and media and lies his whole way through, just because he's Christian.

Nah, I don't think that's a good idea. Getting someone who's always been bent on controlling people for his entire life.

Gavin Roberts
Gavin Roberts

Getting someone who's always been bent on controlling people for his entire life.
Whats wrong with being controlled?

Jaxon Gutierrez
Jaxon Gutierrez

The New Covenant supercedes the Old Covenant. Almost everyone, including the most backwards prots recognize this to some degree. Get fucked.

John Johnson
John Johnson

supercedes
But it doesnt negate it

Jose Taylor
Jose Taylor

Whats wrong with being controlled?
The motivations behind the want for power. Everything in this tells you he's compensating for having some kind of fucking personality disorder that wants to rule over people, by being a devout Christian. He's actually just like your average hyper strict/abusive Christian father in this sense, what's always interesting his how they always end up alone without power. And the power he has to get this far is lobbying, capital, bribery, and back stabbing.

I have a better question for you. What's wrong with being responsible, and just deciding not to do that? I think there's more virtue there.

Ian Ross
Ian Ross

Stop defending this living hemorrhoid Because Bible. Even in your own world view he's Babylon at this point.

Lincoln Lopez
Lincoln Lopez

Whats wrong with being controlled?
Because the interests of the person controlling you do not align with your own interests you dumb classcuck

Adam Bailey
Adam Bailey

You know I'm willing to bet he abused his wife. All this "I'm so kind to my wife I love my wife, I stay away from other women" shit, combined with this profile

It all seems sketchy as fuck

David Mitchell
David Mitchell

Christ is under God’s authority
This is a heretical belief, at least under the theology of most branches of Christianity.
employees are under the employer’s authority
To rephrase John Ball: When Adam delved and Eve span, who then was the employer?

Austin Roberts
Austin Roberts

Inb4 you think we like Mike Pence despite the our praise for his support to Gay Conversion Therapy

He is a neo-conservative and one of the Christians whom believes that Israel is the land of the holy.

Henry Johnson
Henry Johnson

Who was the one talking about meme magic. Who.

Who did this to you /pol/

Henry Robinson
Henry Robinson

Btw, why are you against Neoconservatism when it is nothing more than renamed Trofskyism?

Blake Nelson
Blake Nelson

Because even if that was true, and it's not, Trotsky is not a particularly popular person here. You could say we picked him out.

Adrian Nelson
Adrian Nelson

Except it very much is. Here's a unyn song about it https://hooktube.com/watch?v=AXv3CvVZBzA

Daniel Green
Daniel Green

Mike Pence is the Republican equivalent of Frank Underwood
He's probably scheming his way into the presidency right now
Who wants to bet he's also secretly bisexual?

Jason Adams
Jason Adams

I think you'll find that it actually does negate it in lots of places.

Jonathan Richardson
Jonathan Richardson

snitch
Russian Orthodox Church had plenty of those tho

that or kiddie-diddler

Dominic Scott
Dominic Scott

He came to make the conquered the conquerors. Why did he fail?

Justin Morgan
Justin Morgan

my proof is a song
<flag

Grayson Cruz
Grayson Cruz

Christ is under God’s authority
The fuck?

Isaiah Murphy
Isaiah Murphy

yfw Pence is the penultimate Machiavellian politician in the US, barring Kissinger
Strap in, shit's about to get weird

Eli Watson
Eli Watson

Your morals are spooks,
and your waifu is trash

Nathaniel Perry
Nathaniel Perry

It actually does, in a lot of parts.

Kayden Howard
Kayden Howard

I think his stragety is to wait untill trump gets impeached so he can be prez with little effort. The snake.

Bentley Green
Bentley Green

What a fucking dork

Christian Wright
Christian Wright

/thread

Dylan Lewis
Dylan Lewis

mostly songs about listening to law enforcement and staying away from Drugs
Evangelicals deserve mass graves. Zero exceptions. It's our duty as communists to eradicate this social group from the face of the earth.

Adrian Mitchell
Adrian Mitchell

He sodimizes little boys just like all these super Christian right-wingers politicians do.

Henry Martin
Henry Martin

Christ is under God’s authority
Arius got maced over this heresy back at the first council of Nikea, don't tell me the proddies are trying to bring it back.

THIS is what happens when you let plebs read the bible people, protestantism was a mistake.

Owen Watson
Owen Watson

implying protestantism wasn't the absolutely necessary negation of catholicism needed to get closer to the kernal of truth
Read Hegel
also Arius was right

Robert Thompson
Robert Thompson

I don't care. Remove him from office.

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