Willing to die for the cause?

Andrew Thompson
Andrew Thompson

Would you be willing to die for your ideology and or the cause you are trying to achieve? I know an obvious answer might be "yes", but what I think makes this so much more tragic is how hard it has been for socialism to succeed in history. So when you are there, fighting for the cause you truly believe in, and you die trying to achieve it, it really depresses me just thinking about it. Working so hard to see your goal, only to die and never see the fruits of your victory

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Thomas Perez
Thomas Perez

No. Why would I want to die for something I'll never be able to experience? I don't have a death wish.

Ryan Moore
Ryan Moore

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Primarily because if you happen to succeed, you know people will benefit from your sacrifice

Austin Adams
Austin Adams

I wouldn't "know", I'd be dead.

Gabriel Hughes
Gabriel Hughes

Tbh yes, because I know I would be wall'ed in the counterrevolution anyways so I might as well.

Ayden Garcia
Ayden Garcia

Communism isn't an ideology its the real movement to abolish the present state of things. And yes.

Nicholas Carter
Nicholas Carter

I'm not sacrificing myself for any cause. If I happen to die doing something in my self interest however that's a different story.

Jose Nguyen
Jose Nguyen

Not necessarily communism, just any type of socialism you feel identified with

Austin Gomez
Austin Gomez

I actually want to die.
I'd like some way to put that to use.
The unfortunate thing is that my ideology is pretty moderate and doesn't have that many followers, so a related deed would probably have no positive effect.

'Cept I do hate cops, though. But I don't wanna do something ineffectual.

Dominic Butler
Dominic Butler

Which ideology? Socdem?

Owen Hughes
Owen Hughes

although you would eventually be dead as a result of your action, you would 'know' NOW, in the present, that your decision would help people in the future, which could motivate you to act in a self-sacrificial manner, if your conscience feels the weight of moral imperatives.

I would guess that yours doesn't, though. fucking Stirnerites, I swear. if you're really so self-interested, just go ahead and play along with the capitalist system and perpetuate the cycle of exploitation to your own benefit. the system has a few good decades left in it before it completely collapses, and the environment won't be completely destroyed until after you die, so why not? God knows it's easier to get rich than to implement socialism.

Juan Morgan
Juan Morgan

Read Stirner.
https://theconjurehouse.com/2016/11/18/the-stirner-wasnt-a-capitalist-you-fucking-idiot-cheat-sheet/

Samuel Myers
Samuel Myers

if i knew we were guaranteed to win after i died, yes.

Leo Kelly
Leo Kelly

Would you be willing to die for your ideology and or the cause you are trying to achieve?
I'd rather make the other guy die for his tbh.

Ian Lee
Ian Lee

Yes. But only if I don't got shit to lose and trust the people who I'm fighting with.
Right now I wouldn't even get a nail hurt for communism

Jordan Carter
Jordan Carter

That is more or less impossible to tell. I have no idea if I would sacrifice myself for socialism. Possibly, but I'm not certain of it. Most things in life don't force you to die or lose, it is just risky for your health. For example, just because you fight against impossible odds doesn't necessarily mean you lose. Did you risk your life for your beliefs? Yes, but it can be argued you were never in danger to skill/the situation. I can't think of a time where me dying=socialism.

Luke Cruz
Luke Cruz

this

Eli Richardson
Eli Richardson

I didn't say anything about Stirner's philosophy. I was talking about the person who I was replying to. If your only desires in life are material gain, then your time is wasted pursuing socialism. I'm saying, if you've got any wits about you, you'll be much better served by using the existing hierarchical systems to amass material unto yourself.

Benjamin Garcia
Benjamin Garcia

You know, for being a staunched anticommunist, Patton still has some nice quotes

Ethan Flores
Ethan Flores

the weight of moral imperatives

Zachary Torres
Zachary Torres

yeah, I know it's a spook. you don't have to tell me. so is sympathy for human suffering or any other kind of subjectively derived morality that could possibly serve as an impetus for a socialist revolution, which was the topic of the board last time I checked.

Lucas Roberts
Lucas Roberts

Georgism.

Ian Collins
Ian Collins

daily reminder that someone was autistic enough to draw and publish this on the internet

Charles Ramirez
Charles Ramirez

Yes. I'd rather die fighting for a cause I believe in than die an old age pathetically.

Landon Nguyen
Landon Nguyen

RRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEE THAT QUOTE IS ZAPATA NOT CHE.

Eli Harris
Eli Harris

this

but also this

Brayden Adams
Brayden Adams

No, I'd let other people go ahead and sacrifice, and I'll gain from the spoils.

Jace Cooper
Jace Cooper

you'll die of old age, first.

Ian Collins
Ian Collins

Do you refer to Lenin?

Owen Peterson
Owen Peterson

Depends on the situation. Die fighting a revolutionary war sure but I'm not going to kill myself for some minor objective that won't make a significant difference one way or another.

Samuel Robinson
Samuel Robinson

Only if I'm to 100% convinced that I'm doing the right thing.

Kayden Martin
Kayden Martin

materialism fears physical death
Well, no duh!

Christopher Wilson
Christopher Wilson

why should you? regardless of how long you stay alive, the oblivion at the end is equally eternal. may as well die doing the right thing.

also I'm glad we have flags back.

Cooper Hernandez
Cooper Hernandez

t. Klandlord Grand Klizard Person

Christopher Richardson
Christopher Richardson

turns out, martial valor doesn't really discriminate between ideologies.

Jaxson Adams
Jaxson Adams

That's a zapata quote. Bring your americanism out of here

Cameron Fisher
Cameron Fisher

Exactly

Gavin Allen
Gavin Allen

your movement consists almost entirely of people with this very mindset and that is why it will never prevail

Sebastian Miller
Sebastian Miller

Maybe it's because i'm a christian and not an atheist but yes, I would obviously give my life for others as have many communist leaders and soldiers before me. And for the egoist among us if i survive any class war i'll make sure that your names are made into streets and the best among you will have a statue in a city center commemorating you.

Wyatt Bailey
Wyatt Bailey

I think what saddens my heart more than anything is to think of all the Russian soldiers who died during the revolution. Who died to implement what they thought would be complete liberation, a free world for their children. Only to have this glimmer of hope snuffed out by global capitalist forces 80 or so years later.
Every comrade of any tendency that has fallen for the struggle deserves the upmost respect and highest honor. They made the true ultimate sacrifice hoping for a better world for us

Nolan Sanders
Nolan Sanders

SPOOKS LUL

Jaxon Wilson
Jaxon Wilson

Basically this, If i felt I could live an alright existence, even in a capitalist shithole, I'd go for it. If life was unbearable revolutionary suicide would be the only option.

Noah Edwards
Noah Edwards

dying for sacred socialism
Nice spooks friendo.

Sebastian Garcia
Sebastian Garcia

Depends on whether I know I'll be actually helping the cause in the process. But the cause won't come back to life within my lifetime anyway.

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