Why did Socialism fail in Greece? Many sources claim that it was socialism that...

Isaac Martin
Isaac Martin

Why did Socialism fail in Greece? Many sources claim that it was socialism that caused the Greek economic collapse but not many good explanations as to why it failed.

https://www.cnbc.com/2015/07/01/greek-disaster-is-all-about-socialism.html

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Brayden Campbell
Brayden Campbell

not real capitalism

Hudson Perry
Hudson Perry

Greece’s situation was caused by socialism
also linked in the article, “Yep, socialism killed Puerto Rico too”
How can such concentrated stupidity and misinformation be allowed to exist?

Joshua Hill
Joshua Hill

Don't just insult the article, explain why Socialism is not responsible for these failings.

Hudson Phillips
Hudson Phillips

Just tell them this:
A system of commercial exchange between free and autonomous enterprises such as might be supported by cooperators, syndicalists, libertarians, has no historical possibility nor any socialist character. It is even a step backward compared with numerous sectors already organised on a general scale in the bourgeois epoch, as required by technology and the complexity of social life. Socialism, or communism, means that the whole of society is a single association of producers and consumers.
t. Bordiga

Hunter King
Hunter King

EU coerces Greece to adopt neoliberal austerity
EU exploits Greece economically and refused to let the country control its own economy
EU demands that Greece pay back the debts that the EU forced on Greece to begin with
<Greece failed because socialism
daily reminder that the EU is a capitalist institution that must be opposed

Adrian Perry
Adrian Perry

because under no definition of socialism except for right wingers thinking socialism is when the state does stuff, there was no examples of socialism being implemented in greece. I urge you to give examples of "socialism" being practiced in Greece and how it affected the economy.

Camden Gray
Camden Gray

Greeks are lazy and avoiding taxes became a national pastime.

Joshua Ortiz
Joshua Ortiz

The closest they honestly got to socialism in Greece is in the anarchist communes in various parts of the country

Easton Foster
Easton Foster

See .

Doubly so for Puerto Rico.

Wyatt Moore
Wyatt Moore

The healthcare in Greece is socialized, therefore expensive and racking up debt.

Adrian Wood
Adrian Wood

You mean nationalize?

Brandon Reyes
Brandon Reyes

No one will ever give a shit about your opinion. Stop shitposting and see

Tyler Mitchell
Tyler Mitchell

if the greeks just pull themselves up by their bootstraps, they can become rich like those hardworking japanese !

Kevin Phillips
Kevin Phillips

The healthcare in Greece is socialized, therefore expensive and racking up debt.
hmmm

Jordan Thompson
Jordan Thompson

opposed
destroyed*

ftfy

Anthony Brooks
Anthony Brooks

Where did you find this?

Isaiah Clark
Isaiah Clark

Greece failed because it's filled with nonhumans

Jackson Jones
Jackson Jones

a country that had a civil war right after WW2 where the rightists won
it was illegal to be a communist and/or any kind of leftist pretty much until 1974
there was a right-wing dictatorship from 1967 to 1974 that actively exiled, tortured and executed leftists
the first time that greece had a party that wasn't right wing was in 1981, and it was a center-left party
the only time in greek history (after the dictatorship) that a party, other than the 2 major parties, got elected was in 2015, while the country was in deep economical crisis
that party, SYRIZA, although was coming out as a left wing party, purged all the radical left-wingers just a few months after their election
JUST LOOK AT SOCIALISM'S FAILURE IN GREECE

Greece was always one of capitalism's greatest failure's and none has the balls to call it that. Socialism has nothing to do with Greece, it simply never existed here.

Jack Bennett
Jack Bennett

The dictator did do one thing right
He banned plate smashing
Literally the most barbaric practice ever conceived and yet they're somehow proud of their tradition that allows them to act like apes

Colton Rivera
Colton Rivera

How was Greece socialist?

Blake Fisher
Blake Fisher

Being part of EU is what destroyed it. Entire EU is on lifesupport by world bank now but its kept in secret, and the refugee crisis is also a good distraction for the moment being. It will be entertaining when the bubble bursts.

David Stewart
David Stewart

Prove there ISN'T a god. Hehheh, checkmate socialists!

Aaron Wilson
Aaron Wilson

Welfare state services in a capitalist economy mean the economy is socialist

How the fuck is it that so many right wingers are too dumb to understand the difference between socialism and social democracy/welfare-state capitalism

It's not a fucking hard concept to grasp

Liam Myers
Liam Myers

SHORT RECENT GREEK HISTORY LESSON/ A RANT FROM ME FOR YOU FAGGOTS.

After the fall of the Junta in 1974, Greece has had governments either of PASOK or New Democracy (ND). The first started as a "socialist" party, but was pretty much a nepotist organisation (funnily enough the prime minister Papandreou in 2009-11 was the son of the Papandreou who founded the party, who's own father was also a major political figure in Greek politics). ND is center right, but has always had many far right members, one of their MP's, Voridis, is in a photograph some years ago walking around threatening people in a left-wing neighborhood (Exarcheia) with an axe, their youth organisation in the past has murdered left wing activists (such as the teacher Temponeras), though they now just go to clubs and consume large ammounts of alchohol. Also Kasidiaris, of the fascist Golden Dawn was a leading member of their youth organisation as a student.

Only in 1989 was there a coalition government of the radical left and ND which didn’t last very long (maybe 2-3 years). Now, what the article is talking about is when the nepotist PASOK government started giving out money to various groups of people (conveniently before elections). This wasn’t something new in Greece; most public servants actually got their jobs as a political favour of some sort, either by PASOK or ND (not that SYRIZA aren’t doing the same thing, but they haven’t been in power for 40 something years yet). PASOK just took it to a new level and started throwing money fucking everywhere- it didn’t eradicate any of the existing inequalities though. And needless to say, ND just continued with shit cause VOTES.

What the people writing the article ignore or don’t understand is that all these “handouts” were ways in which politicians, and other people, stole money. I cannot stress this enough. Everyone stole money. From shops or plumbers and electricians not giving receipts and dodging taxes, to ship owners or building companies paying the politicians millions. Even SIEMENS made corrupt deals, and now Germany won’t extradite the guy who was in charge- because the trial would severely damage SIEMENS. So people were getting crazy handouts, there’s been working-taxi-drivers-getting-money -for-being-blind level corruption, there’s been breaking and entering after every mayor’s election in Athens in which nothing is stolen but hard drives- which obviously contain incriminating data. Basically, the whole government was/is a money stealing scheme, and they let everyone else steal some so that they would keep their mouths shut.

I could go on and fucking on but the point is that there never was anything even remotely close to socialism in Greece, but there was rampant corruption on an amazing scale. That’s just my two cents, I didn’t even read the whole fucking article because whoever wrote is completely clueless, I mean even the Greek far right doesn’t accuse socialism but corruption, what the fuck guys.

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