How come so many SomethingAwful goons became left-wing while 4chan became right-wing

Christopher Ortiz
Christopher Ortiz

Almost all of the prominent Weird Twitter and ironybro accounts are SomethingAwful refugees and left-leaning to various extent.

Moot himself was an SA goon back when he launched 4chan which makes 4chan itself an offshoot of SA of sorts, and 4chan always shared its trolling sensibility with boards like FYAD.

So why did 4chan take such a different trajectory? Was there something about its format which made it easier for right-wingers to hijack?

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Lincoln Carter
Lincoln Carter

Hating on fascist or being a liberal or redliberal doesn't make you leftwing

Justin Wilson
Justin Wilson

Stormniggers always had a presence on the site but their shilling was never very effective until feminists started bitching about videogames. That sent incels into a fit of autistic beta rage and thus they adjusted their message to pander to them.
Then GG happened and that was just the right match to light the trashfire and we all know how it went down. That and moot was too spineless to do what he should have done, as in never reopen /pol/ and enact a zero tolerance policy for their shit on the entire site.

Parker Garcia
Parker Garcia

This.

4chan was not a demonstrably right-wing site until pop feminists made fun of motherfucking video games.

People forget how /b/ was constantly DDOSing Stormfront and raiding Hal Turner's show.

Noah Howard
Noah Howard

I never used Something Awful but become a lefty. In fact only used 4chan for a while.

John Lee
John Lee

becoming a Nazi because some roastie took beach ball boobs out of your videogames

Fascism really is the ideology for infants.

Robert Sullivan
Robert Sullivan

Hobby boards were mostly apolitical, because back then people had the smidgen of sense it takes to understand that there's literally nothing worse than politics and religion to ruin hobby discussion.
And of course fucking /v/ermins just HAD to rage at feminists ruining their vidya, even though it was painfully obvious it was companies trying to cover up what kind of garbage AAA games were becoming by pandering to new demographics since they knew they had lost the straight white male one. But, no, it was all part of the "feminist agenda", 'cause they needed an excuse to get mad at women and they were gonna get it.
So now we can't talk about video games anywhere on the internet without being bombarded with /pol/ propaganda about SJWs and libruls, fucking hell it makes my blood boil to even think about it. Fuck them and the reactionary faggots on youtube who enabled them.

Daniel Lee
Daniel Lee

even though it was painfully obvious it was companies trying to cover up what kind of garbage AAA games were becoming by pandering to new demographics since they knew they had lost the straight white male one.
This makes no damn sense.

Noah Allen
Noah Allen

Shift blame away from your game being shit as well as targeting newer audiences that aren't as critical of game design as gamers. Mass Effect comes to mind, broken shit game but no one cares about that because the idpol distracts /pol/ and wins over the tumblr crowd. Developers can get by making a half-assed product because the controversy will sell it.

Austin Sullivan
Austin Sullivan

But user, the game becomes shit because the devs went full socjus, all Bioware are broken shit RPG but people cared for the stories and characters, now they shit on all that shit with SJW shit and the "newer audience" doesn't buy the damn games either because SJWs don't buy games.

This is company shooting themselves in the foot instead of sticking to their core, milk-able audience.

Joshua Harris
Joshua Harris

Bioware stories are shit and the characters are bad. Even BG2 is full of trash writing and cheesey bullshit only saved by a breadth of content and autistic modding community.

Oliver Price
Oliver Price

So bioware games have always been shit, nuff said.

Now bioware game sex mods and ERPG, now that's socialism.

Ethan Wilson
Ethan Wilson

Bioware games stopped being easily moddable with Dragon Age 2, which is a steaming pile of shit no mod coupd fix. There will be no socialism in EA games.

Evan Campbell
Evan Campbell

Who cares, NWN1 alone has shitton of ERPG and sex mods that are better than the main campaign.

Angel Gray
Angel Gray

That's not saying much, NWN was shit even by bioware standards.

David Wright
David Wright

SJWs don't buy games.
SJWs might not, but EA's profits have risen year over year for the past several years, Anon-kun. They publish their yearly financial reports online and you can see that their games division is more profitable than ever.

http://investor.ea.com/annuals.cfm

At least, this was so the last time I looked, a year or two ago I believe? It might be different now.

I don't have any evidence to back it up, but my belief is that the big game publishers are benefiting from the same market consolidation that the big media companies are benefiting from, in that they are so big that it doesn't matter if they release a "quality product" or not, because they have such a commanding market presence that these big-name products like Call of Duty or Star Wars "crowd out" higher quality products from smaller competitors in the minds of the general population. Does that make sense? I'm trying to say that it's like a violinist trying to compete with a rock concert. The virtuoso might be a better musician, but his competition is so loud that he just can't compare, even if the rock band is mediocre at best.

NWN1 alone has shitton of ERPG and sex mods that are better than the main campaign.
Anon-chan, tell me more :3c

James Cook
James Cook

Well, the socjust games aren't selling.

Bioware is going to get canned by this rate because their latest title underperforms massively.

Dunno about the sport games, those games have always sold, and Battlefields 1 is well-received despite the socjus shit because people want a WW1 game.

Adam Richardson
Adam Richardson

It's DLC season passes making them money. By bundling DLC together into one package they're able to sell more at release than hoping players will come back after a month or year, thus almost doubling the revenue for selling a game.

Colton Johnson
Colton Johnson

DLC is actually smart business since it's actually apolitical, it's just damn greedy though.

Samuel Carter
Samuel Carter

If it wasn't they wouldn't keep doing it. Unfortunatly it's killed expansions and stuff like the New Vegas DLC is a rarity.

Eli Sanders
Eli Sanders

This is my Chan history blog…for anyone who might be interested in an oldfag path from 2003 era SA to present. I used both SA and 4chan, many years ago, when I was a forever alone virgin loser. SA was pretty great at first. It had boards for pirating games, movies, music, and porn. It was a bunch of very nerdy guys who didn't care about social justice or being politically correct. SJWs did not even exist in 2003. Then Lowtax got rid of all the pirating boards, as a precautionary measure, not too long after I joined. Then SA made the gradual but continuous progression into pure faggotry. The last straw for me was when I joined some goon guild in a game and made some Sperglord joke and an officer told me to cut it out because people would be offended. I was like "WTF, who gives a shit?" and left. That was in like 2010 or so. I don't think I've even logged on SA since then. I started visiting 4chan back in the Desu spam days of 2008 or so. And 4chan also gradually became insufferable, so I moved here a couple years ago. Now I'm a red-pilled forever alone virgin loser. And I can't stand SJW shit…along with all the literal faggotry that came along with it.

Robert Johnson
Robert Johnson

Nonsense, expansions live on as DLC. If the games are big and sell, it's gonna get a big expansion DLC, that's common practice now.

Easton Rogers
Easton Rogers

Lowtax got banned from Twitter for saying somebody should pour concrete on Baked Alaska.

Zachary Gray
Zachary Gray

Not in terms of size. Mask of the Betrayer was the size of at both big Skyrim DLCs, which was one of the larger recent ones I've played. I'm dismayed at the loss of those huge chunks of content delivered at once, Ashes of Malmouth for Grim Dawn or White March for PoE are the only ones I can think of.

Jackson Murphy
Jackson Murphy

Lowtax is a bitch. He almost got softly bullied into sorting out SA by kiwifarms but at the last minute he got cold feet and it was at the same time as kiwifarms going down so he took credit for it so the SJWs at SA could circlejerk with him.

Nolan Jackson
Nolan Jackson

he definitely lacked backbone.

Brayden Anderson
Brayden Anderson

Shilling and astroturfing, duh.

Alexander Williams
Alexander Williams

kek

Cooper Torres
Cooper Torres

But user, the game becomes shit because the devs went full socjus
No they didn't.
Yes, Bioware went to shit after DA:O, but gay romance options were always an annoyance at best. If you think that's what made DA2 and ME3 hunks of shit, you're /pol/.

Christian Martinez
Christian Martinez

That's your opinion, but their games become shit when they try to pander to the SJWs.

New Vegas has gay (and even anarchist) subtexts, fucking right wingers still bought NV.

DA2 and ME3, nah.

Jaxon Jackson
Jaxon Jackson

is tru

Hunter Hall
Hunter Hall

Yeah, who cares that they were watered down, uninteresting, barely functional imitations of the originals on all levels, "muh sjw" all the way.
Keep saying that you hate idpol /pol/.

Jayden Moore
Jayden Moore

They weren't watered down or uninteresting, that would have been acceptable.

They were unintentional straight down hilarious stereotypes, meant to pander to the SJWs.

But of course, if you badmouth the SJWs and the corporation supporting SJWs, you are /pol/.

Brandon Fisher
Brandon Fisher

SJWs don't buy games.
Because they download their from torrents. It approximates communism. They better then capitalists.
And what do you want buy games from the capitalists?
They need to be used in their favor. Don't buy games. Get games for free from torrents.

Juan Martinez
Juan Martinez

Anyone who seriously believes this needs to be shot.

If you think that having some harpy bitch shrieking into her irrelevant blog on tumblr that nobody reads is "forcing" you to go to war, then you are such a massive fucking manchild that there is no way you can ever do anything except leech off of and degrade literally everyone around you.

Jaxon Russell
Jaxon Russell

They are the one who declared war on us. And they should suffer the consequences.

Asher King
Asher King

So completely optional gay romance ruined a game with this guy as part of the main story?
Who did you say they were pandering to exactly?

Connor White
Connor White

If you think that having some harpy bitch shrieking into her irrelevant blog on tumblr that nobody reads is "forcing" you to go to war
It would be fine if that were all they did. But they are dramatically shifting the demographic being targeted by game companies. And they are causing insufferable changes in games. We can't just sit back and allow them to have their way. But outside of some niche indie games, it may already be too late for the industry. They already drank the faggotry-spiked cool-aid.

Charles Collins
Charles Collins

sjw's aren't allowed to post their irrelevant opinions on irrelevant sites
HOW DARE THEY MAKE FREEZE PEACH A MEME!
Once again I am reminded that /pol/tards deserve literally zero sympathy.

Henry Cooper
Henry Cooper

4chan & SA were in constant rivalry, this is the natural ultimate result. It could've gone the other way, but stormfront wont pay for SA accounts to shill with

Mason Bell
Mason Bell

Video games were insufferable to begin with

Jaxson Lewis
Jaxson Lewis

That shit has been happening since fucking 2004. It's already going back because game companies realized that these people screeching about others playing games are in fact not in the slightest interested in actually playing them, and are not profiting off of marketing to them.

Grayson Stewart
Grayson Stewart

SJWs don't even play games, let alone torrent them.

Nathaniel Torres
Nathaniel Torres

They do much more than post opinions, and you know it! They are no longer impotent whiners. They have destroyed the industry and won't be content until all the old companies go under.

Hudson White
Hudson White

Video Games are shit and should be banned

Isaiah Rodriguez
Isaiah Rodriguez

Lol

Jayden Collins
Jayden Collins

This is what happens to your brain when you live for years locked in your room, pissing in bottles and browsing /pol/ while listening to anti-feminist propaganda on youtube.

Julian Jones
Julian Jones

I think they play a few. But only the most pozzed shit you can imagine.

Logan Scott
Logan Scott

Apologies for not enjoying being told how to think how to feel and how to act by some infinitely wealthy elder of zion

btw pol says the americunt civil war is about to start /pol/res/10779124.html#10779124 since soros liquidated 78% of his assets (18billion$) and dumped them all into open society foundation
<and 18 billion is around 9 times trumps total wealth

Bentley Evans
Bentley Evans

Funny how Holla Forums would constantly defend these fuckers when even the fucking corporations self-censor to please them.

Hunter Edwards
Hunter Edwards

this

Justin Price
Justin Price

George Soros Video Games Jews George Soros George Soros George Soros Gamers Rule

Daniel Martinez
Daniel Martinez

No I'm not defending them, I'm just not defending you

Gabriel Clark
Gabriel Clark

We're not defending anyone you dick wart, just pointing out how stupid and deluded you are.

Brody Lewis
Brody Lewis

Defend me, for what?
Well, it's factual that companies self-censor themselves to earn SJW good points, it's very well-documented.

Good thing these companies also shoot themselves in the foot in doing so.

Andrew Miller
Andrew Miller

something happened to somethingawful back in 2009-2011 i forgot the details

Robert Rodriguez
Robert Rodriguez

Defend you for being outraged about a hobby for literal children

Caleb Flores
Caleb Flores

Moot was always left leaning. Liberals are self defeating because they openly invite the forces that ensure their damnation. /n/'s composition in the very beginning was 35% libertards 20% liberals 5-10% actual leftists and 30-35% conservatives of various guises. The opening pool of stormfront raiders was very small and took years to grow to an appreciable size. mostly by shilling at /k/ and encouraging crossboard shitposting which has ended up destroying most of the site in tandem with the rise of smartphone usage.

Easton Jackson
Easton Jackson

Well, it's my hobby and I invest in it.

Juan Davis
Juan Davis

Consider this: it's shit stop it

Samuel Morris
Samuel Morris

Well, it's factual that companies self-censor themselves to earn SJW good points, it's very well-documented.
Cry me a fucking river, like you would actually play any of their bog standard open world shit fests if you got your tits back. You're just outraged that video game companies are not your champions anymore because you're such a sorry excuse for a human being that you completely identify with the one hobby you have.
Kill yourself.

Angel Stewart
Angel Stewart

GG was cool until it became fixated on white idpol.

Ayden Hughes
Ayden Hughes

No, why?
I actually play plenty of tit games, so thank you.

Ian Miller
Ian Miller

Smh fam if you're gonna revise history at least get basic chronology correct.

moot deleted the predecessor to /pol/ (/new/) for being too racist and then reinstated it while most of the gamer gate crowd were still shitting their pants in middle school playing cawl ah dooty

Also stormfront has been shilling on every corner of the internet since the 90s but never got much traction, WN flowered on 4chan because of anonymity, edge Lord culture, reverence for Japan's ethnic homogeneity and because demographic winter in general for white people and multiculturalism started to become a real problem just like storm niggers warned in the late 90s but nobody believes them

t. knower

Samuel Thomas
Samuel Thomas

They have destroyed the industry and won't be content until all the old companies go under.
Yes, I'm sure that EA went and purged dozens of game companies to earn SJW brownie points (that they suddenly value more than money despite being a for-profit business) in the early 2000's because they were literally prophetic about the rise of SJW's ten years later.

Julian Robinson
Julian Robinson

Read a good book about your problems instead.

Jason Robinson
Jason Robinson

Why? I prefer vidya games.

Jonathan Long
Jonathan Long

Read you bitch

Brody Bennett
Brody Bennett

lie

instead it was right wing sensationalists who took advantage of situation where feminist idpol thought it could fuck over eternal neet
real right wing idpol like spencer are laughing stock to og gg

Christian Adams
Christian Adams

We only hate white men because a lot of them think they deserve a bigger piece than everyone else. Stop bitching about media representing people who aren't you, start taking an active role in dismantling white supremacy and capitalism, then we can talk.

Brayden Brooks
Brayden Brooks

Nah.

Isaiah Perez
Isaiah Perez

If you're not going to even read any basic bare bones theory then why post here

Aiden Myers
Aiden Myers

Cuz I like vidya and want to talk about leftist politics?

Nathaniel White
Nathaniel White

Nowadays EA still purge companies, but they purge companies that do not make money (by pandering to SJW brownie points).

So yes, they are fucking stupid, but at least they know where to cut the cancer.

Jose Hernandez
Jose Hernandez

It would be better if you read the source material instead of forming your opinions from the mass of what this board's consensus is.

Christopher Parker
Christopher Parker

Well they do make the companies unprofitable first. EA seem to only make money on staple franchises like FIFA, NBA, and The Sims and DLC. Any other series they pick up they run into the ground by pandering to the wrong demographics of people who are historically interested in those franchises. Like, for example, Syndicate becoming a FPS, or C&C becoming a DOTA/mobile game.

Aaron Baker
Aaron Baker

Truth, actual reason.
Wishful thinking usual /pol/ mental masturbation.

Anthony Ross
Anthony Ross

Well, I don't know if bioware panders to SJW on EA order or they do it on themselves, but either is fine.

Henry Walker
Henry Walker

I don't actually play bioware games because they never tickled my fancy, I just wanted to give my take on EA.

John Rogers
John Rogers

It's not wishful thinking it's true fax. Especially considering the post that I was replying to was a literal lie totally unconnected to the actual history of /pol/ cobbled together by some butthurt red liberal that probably only found out about the chans after last year's election.

There's no need to blatantly lie Holla Forums. People will correct you.

James Wilson
James Wilson

It's not wishful thinking
It's wishful thinking

Logan Howard
Logan Howard

To make a long story short, /v/ was the key.
/v/ is manchildren central, and the most easily manipulated, with the biggest motivations to have strong kneejerk reactions to anything.
/v/ is what /pol/ needed to have access to 4chan as a whole.

It's exactly why Holla Forums "fuck NEETs they're retarded" attitude will always, always ensure that you guys will never take this site back, or even roll it back to a more moderate position, because you don't resonate with boards like /v/ and /a/.
And if you can't manipulate them, you're always going to be seen as outsiders, and people won't listen nor trust you, so /pol/ will always win over you.

Logan Evans
Logan Evans

that'd be like fighting over a piece of trash, why would anyone want /v/irgins and /a/utists on your side???

Thomas Williams
Thomas Williams

Because they're the springboards to influence the entire site, you incredibly simple brainlet.
They're the building blocks that spreads the users to all the other boards, remember that 4chan originally WAS just "/a/" under the first "/b/ - Anime/Random" board, shit drips downawrd from them, to everywhere else and they're the most culturally influencing on the overall political climate of the entire site.

You shit on /v/ and /a/'s NEETs, you lose the site.
You shit on 90% of RL leftist movements, so you lose support of normies.
You shit on leddit, so you lose even more normies.

What's left?
Who backs you up?
It's so stupid and makes you so small it almost makes me think this entire board is nothing but undercovers from /pol/ making sure the site stays at far right as possible by making you all look like incompetent litigious fools while they have all the dank memes and are alluring and inclusive (and don't bring up "hurr but they racist how is that inclusive", you know EXACTLY what i mean by that).

Mason Evans
Mason Evans

i just came

Mason Williams
Mason Williams

you'll never convince /v/ or /a/

Wow what a heart breaking loss

Adrian Gonzalez
Adrian Gonzalez

Who backs you up?
Do you think most of us even use this website only to communicate to people. The only retards who actually find that tolerable are retards like you who find this place pleasant.

Robert Bennett
Robert Bennett

/a/ actually held out for a while longer, as they were always extremely hostile to outsiders coming into their board without at least going through the bare minimum gateway anime and learning proper board etiquette.
Haven't been there in a while, how are things? Can't imagine it being any better than the rest of the site.

Adrian Evans
Adrian Evans

You shit on /v/ and /a/'s NEETs, you lose the site.

Good

You shit on 90% of RL leftist movements, so you lose support of normies.

Good

You shit on leddit, so you lose even more normies.

Good

What's left?

This board. I like it.

Ryder Moore
Ryder Moore

winning a battle over a piece of trash let's you fight over a bigger piece of trash!!

wow, amazing

Who backs you up?
thermodynamics

Jace Moore
Jace Moore

You're delusional and arrogant.
You need numbers to do ANYTHING, and everything you do makes sure you stay small.
It's incredibly retarded, sometimes i really think it's nothing but a /pol/ puppeted sham.

Colton Wright
Colton Wright

You're delusional

No

arrogant

Yes

Alexander Ortiz
Alexander Ortiz

sperg more

capitalism is a thermal impossibility, I only wish but to live long enough to see it fail

Wyatt Williams
Wyatt Williams

You need numbers to do ANYTHING
Buddy, this website doesn't have numbers that matter to anyone and half of you have lived lives so terrible that you'd humiliate us with your association, I think we're fine if you just fuck off. We're not losing anything substantial by not playing Mother for /r9k/ and /v/.

Brandon Bell
Brandon Bell

/a/ was shit before gamergate.

Brody Evans
Brody Evans

Go to most boards outside of /pol/, /v/ or /r9k/ and you will find people tired of rage culture

Carter Cook
Carter Cook

Not that I disagree, but what good would it be to get 4chan on board? What good was it to the alt-right even? The second they step out of their online circlejerk they sperg out and embarrass themselves and everything they stand for.

Luis Cox
Luis Cox

/a/ was never good.

Josiah Foster
Josiah Foster

Every time a group of entitled albino nerds gets mad, a portion of them become nazis in response. Some hopeless dipshit is becoming radicalized off the Rick and Morty McDonalds sauce

Matthew Reyes
Matthew Reyes

It's strange for me also, that these people are supposedly so proud and have so much self esteem from their skin color, albino happens to be the insult that pisses them off the most.

Adam Garcia
Adam Garcia

I just come to Holla Forums to have fun, man.

Charles Taylor
Charles Taylor

what good would it be to get 4chan on board? What good was it to the alt-right even?

Not the user you're responding to, but it's a high-traffic website with lots of young people and lots of people with exorbitant amounts of free time on their hands. There's obvious benefits in at least siphoning away some of them.

Carter Powell
Carter Powell

Not the user you're responding to, but it's a high-traffic website with lots of young people and lots of people with exorbitant amounts of free time on their hands.

And the adults who post on it that much have lived lives that would only severely damage the reputation of the people who use them.

Brayden Ramirez
Brayden Ramirez

Yes, but the left often needs the support of young people (probably helped Corbyn a lot), and it's dumb to let the right siphon away too many of them.

Plus it's just good strategy to convert people when they're still young and impressionable. Sure, some of them might change their views as they grow up, but there are still obvious benefits to preventing them from going down the wrong path in the first place.

Gavin Russell
Gavin Russell

Yes, but the left often needs the support of young people

We don't need 4chan to get it. You just admitted it yourself, Corbyn was hardly pushed for by /pol/ or /v/.

Plus it's just good strategy to convert people when they're still young and impressionable

I actually think that's a really fucking bad idea.

Michael Wright
Michael Wright

We've seen how hard it is to keep their autism in check. Honestly sounds like a risky investment that could backfire hard.

Landon Sullivan
Landon Sullivan

GG was a poison pill for nazis. It filled their "movement" with adult male virgins and other useless people who will only serve to bog the whole thing down with their numerous insecurities and inadequacies.

Ethan Brooks
Ethan Brooks

4chan is much more popular in the U.S. than in the U.K. though. Also, I can't even name any prominent "Alt Right" figures in the U.K. It's largely an American/Canadian thing.

But based what I've see online, the broader right-wing (including Alt Light types like PJW and normie conservatives like Ben Shapiro) seems to have more momentum than the left.

I mean, compare. Who are the most popular content creators on the left? The Chapo guys? Looking at the average number of listens their podcasts get on Soundcloud and their number of Twitter followers, it pales to the number of views that, for example, the average PJW video on YouTube gets. Shapiro has like 800k followers on Twitter while I don't think any of the Chapo guys even break 100k. Even fucking Jordan Peterson has over 200k and his popularity only took off this earlier year.

Sure, Chapo is the most popular Patreon, but they still have less than 20k patrons. That's not a lot of people overall, and pales in comparison to the number of subscribers many right-winger YouTubers have.

Hunter Cruz
Hunter Cruz

Protip: Stop being so online.

Cooper Walker
Cooper Walker

Hendren is funny when he isn't depressed or trolling old goons
The new left that Chapo is a part of only gained momentum when Clinton crashed and burned in the US and Jez destroyed the Tory lead in the 2017 campaign. Where managerial liberalism has managed to cling to power (Canada, France) you don't really see a left willing to contradict their centrist masters on economic issues, health care or migration
Infowars and Breitbart types have had years to take Koch and Mercer cash and build infrastructure with it. Where you don't see some parasitic billionaire pulling the strings you see right-wingers fighting each other for patreon donations

Connor Morgan
Connor Morgan

If you really want to help the left by interacting with /pol/yps do everything possible to get them to fight and excommunicate each other. Otherwise concentrate more on making contact with people who are normally apolitical or disillusioned with politics

Austin Sanders
Austin Sanders

Where managerial liberalism has managed to cling to power (Canada, France)

Jagmeet Singh is pretty much the brown Bernie Sanders. Melenchton is to the left of both of them.

/pol/yps do everything possible to get them to fight and excommunicate each other.

Yes, this works well, and I legitimately believe that IF there actually were paid shills raiding /pol/ as some /pol/yps sincerely believe, they could render the board useless very quickly. You could probably do so by just posting endless threads which contradict the right-wing narrative and break their echo chamber, and by having enough people to constantly bump those threads. It's the latter which is key because right now such threads tend to just get slid off the board rapidly.

Jeremiah Perry
Jeremiah Perry

What exactly makes nerds entitled in your mind?

Easton Peterson
Easton Peterson

Getting mad that a video game features a non-white male protagonist is a pretty big sign of entitlement.

Connor Ross
Connor Ross

I don't know about the Chapo podcast itself, but the subreddit is full of SJWs. If that attitude is reflected on the podcast, that might be why it's unpopular.

Sebastian Hughes
Sebastian Hughes

When has this ever happened?

Jason Lewis
Jason Lewis

And that's why feminists/SJWs are horrible. Because they can't differentiate between ideals and people of flesh and blood. Beach ball boobs doesn't hurt anyone.

The M.O. of the feminists/SJWs and the mass media, stuck in their eternal now, was as such:

1) Pick a group that can't defend themselves.
2) Single out the worst aspects and members of them. Disregard all history, context and diversity whithin it.
3) Present yourself as the sole savior.
4) Constantly shift the goalpoasts. And Texas sharpshooter.

Yeah, dudebro vidya is seen the most. And it may be disconserting for a little old lady to buy vidya for the grandchildren when NEET McNeckbeard is yapping about splatter effects. But the clerks know how to sell games to children. It's not like NEET McNeckbeard is stealing vidya from women, girls and children.

And this phenomenon isn't new. In the 80's Moral Majority etc bullied companies by just being loud.

Jason Wilson
Jason Wilson

When has this ever happened?
Have you ever visited another board on this site or halfchan in your life?

Liam Barnes
Liam Barnes

Yes. Give an example.

Luke Ross
Luke Ross

Taken straight from /pol/.

Dylan Harris
Dylan Harris

including FIFA
Gave me a kek.

Brayden Cooper
Brayden Cooper

Everyone knows /pol/ is retarded. You can't find it outside of that.

Dominic Reed
Dominic Reed

And they're already nazis in the first place.

Jordan Thompson
Jordan Thompson

You fuck up by assuming that "making the beliefs of Holla Forums hivemind the beliefs of a general population"(be it on imageboards or IRL) is a good praxis that will amount to anything in the long term aside from probably making this board a piece of shit beyond salvation.

Brody Cooper
Brody Cooper

don't know about the rest, but putting a negroid man on the cover of your wwi-themed game was obviously ideologically motivated. which is what people react to

Camden Clark
Camden Clark

To be honest the right has created more social justice warriors than the left ever possibly could

That's a sign you should be worrying about more than fucking ethics in tits in imported video games nobody even gives a fuck about in Japan

Kevin Taylor
Kevin Taylor

Why do people always assign more agency to liberals than to aut-rightists? They both acted shitty but you people always frame it as the latter group having no choice but to act like retards because the former group made them.

Alexander Rivera
Alexander Rivera

If you are upset over the loss of an EA game you're beyond redemption to start with

Angel Wood
Angel Wood

i'm not. i don't play games. just pointing out what others think

Anthony Foster
Anthony Foster

It's because the alt right are literal children and people feel the need to treat them as if they're infants with no agency

Oliver Davis
Oliver Davis

Other people can be stupid

Thomas Robinson
Thomas Robinson

stupid people can also be correct about some things. broken clock, etc

Ayden Robinson
Ayden Robinson

If you're looking for a broken clock to be right once you might as well buy a functioning fucking clock

Jordan Collins
Jordan Collins

They weren't watered down or uninteresting, that would have been acceptable.
lmfao

Jackson Nguyen
Jackson Nguyen

oh ok. so it's appropriate that a game based on an event often called the first european war should use a non-european as a representative of that event. because when i think "european war," "black man" is the first thing that comes to mind

Charles Torres
Charles Torres

Why is a putting a black guy on the cover any more "ideologically motivated" than putting a white guy on it?

Isaac Myers
Isaac Myers

/lit/ was the only halfchan board to ever not be shit anyway

Leo Flores
Leo Flores

so its appropriate that a game based on an event often called the first european war

No, it's a video game for a series full of fucking microtransactions (which might as well be classified as gambling at this point ) that nobody sane was going to buy anyways, but people are outraged about it because of course they're outraged about it.

If anyone was hoping this video game was going to be historically accurate, that was their fault.

Thomas Baker
Thomas Baker

Why SA out of all people? You will expect people who can burn 10 a month to shitpost will be shamelessly rich and therefore libertarian or conservative,
But after listening to the chapo guys I assume trust fund babies become leftists to atone for their classes sins.
SA is our enemy anyway, their are the bourgeois that alienate us from the memes of production

Logan Bennett
Logan Bennett

SA is our enemy anyway, their are the bourgeois
$10 of disposable income makes you rich

Brandon Bennett
Brandon Bennett

I can't even name any prominent "Alt Right" figures in the U.K. It's largely an American/Canadian thing.
PJW with Sargoy filling in for the "alt-lite" portion.

Christopher Reyes
Christopher Reyes

SA is our enemy anyway
Disagree

Camden Phillips
Camden Phillips

10 a month
are you retarded? it's 10 for an account, not 10 a month.

Ian Barnes
Ian Barnes

because "whites" were the majority party during that event

it's like putting a european on the cover of a game about the liberian civil war. just doesn't follow

Josiah Robinson
Josiah Robinson

Bernie is nominally to the left of Jagmeet because he his proposals are more radical """"for his own country""""

Cooper Gray
Cooper Gray

But there were black soldiers in world war one. Why does it offend you?

Joshua Thomas
Joshua Thomas

it's like putting a european on the cover of a game about the liberian civil war. just doesn't follow

Someone should do that

Elijah Reyes
Elijah Reyes

I don't know about the Chapo podcast itself, but the subreddit is full of SJWs. If that attitude is reflected on the podcast, that might be why it's unpopular.
The subreddit is garbage because the sub got too big and got flooded with /r/socialism fags who openly admit they never listened to the show

Andrew Howard
Andrew Howard

If you're looking at video games for historical realism something went wrong.

Asher Gomez
Asher Gomez

That is a lot of money for some people, specially if they are spending it in something so bland as SA
explain why
But you still pay a monthly fee, right? Still quiet elitist.

Lincoln White
Lincoln White

That is a lot of money for some people
$10 isn't a lot of money for anyone.

David Martin
David Martin

No it was just the 10 bucks the one time

Gavin Cook
Gavin Cook

explain why
They have a content filter for information that's more effective than what image boards have. So you don't end up with people drooling at the mouth over Breitbart neoreaction. Just a tiny bit more sophisticated neoreaction.

At least it used to be anyways, Something Awful always had better jokes.

Juan Nelson
Juan Nelson

Niqqa its just $10

Camden Ward
Camden Ward

again, i don't care about the actual game. the issue is that people in that industry decided "there needs to be a black person visible." it speaks to and illustrates a particular culture of race mania and obsession with "diversity." actual history and reality is deemed "too white" or "pr0blematic," so it must be altered and made "acceptable"
it doesn't offend me per se. it's just dishonest and stupid

Isaac Watson
Isaac Watson

Everyone knows that people got banned for arbitrary reason so the admin could make money from suckers who were willing to pay for another account after having been banned. In addition, there were a ton of other paid features. It's a forum for suckers.

Benjamin Rogers
Benjamin Rogers

Everyone knows that people got banned for arbitrary reason so the admin could make money from suckers who were willing to pay for another account after having been banned

This is unironically how communities on the internet should be created. The freedom of anyone and everyone to speak on the internet leads to disastrous social consequences down the line.

Aiden Clark
Aiden Clark

Was there something about its format which made it easier for right-wingers to hijack?

Bingo, it's the result of how the two work as systems of memetic evolution. Image boards tend to favor the production of a high quantity and low individual investment in memes, analogous to r-selection in biology (think of how frogs create a ton of offspring with little parental investment; pepe is a great mascot.) Traditional message boards favor a low quantity but high investment/effort in memes, analogous to human parental investment tactics (we spend a great deal of energy on each of our children.) SA is notoriously the latter, outright banning people for low-effort posts.

These two memetic strategies are also discursive and anti-discursive. Discursive memes gain their survival advantage by leading to valuable/interesting/useful conversations, while anti-discursive memes subvert discussion in favor of self-reference. Rightism is intrinsically anti-discursive, questioning and inquiry are the death of conservativism. Anti-discursive memes are parasitic, subverting human agency to propagate themselves. The fedora meme is a famous example, it is a blatant attempt to derail criticism of religion.

The degeneration of rightism into fascism is the result of exponentially increasing cultural change due to the internet. In order to preserve itself rightism must pull harder against change, to spam culture with bullshit to derail the natural self-organization of society away from it. This trend will only continue, and discourse will become even more fascist until the collapse of social organization is the only option left, or the reality-distortion field of rightism collapses and society rapidly evolves away from rightist idiocy.

Matthew Wood
Matthew Wood

it speaks to and illustrates a particular culture of race mania and obsession with "diversity." actual history and reality is deemed "too white" or "pr0blematic," so it must be altered and made "acceptable"

But you're not getting my point. The game itself was never going to be historically accurate even if they had a white guy on the front of it.

Cooper Mitchell
Cooper Mitchell

Banning people arbitrarily is good?

Ryder Long
Ryder Long

Perhaps it might've something to do with Dubya's presidency? Back then internet was strongly on the liberal side, aside from Paulbots here and there by the end of Bush era.

Easton Sanders
Easton Sanders

People should be banned 24/7. If someone isn't banned in an hour, people aren't learning what is and is not socially acceptable within an environment.

Eli Bell
Eli Bell

It would have been more historically accurate. No game is completely historically accurate.

Kevin Long
Kevin Long

Holy shit that's retarded.

Jason Clark
Jason Clark

So some historical accuracy is more important than other bits of historical accuracy. I say that's bullshit and nobody should be interested in it

Eli Gomez
Eli Gomez

That's how the internet, used to work. People got banned, they pouted and they took it. Now everyone has to scream, kick their feet, and whine about their free speech rights on the fucking internet.

Dylan Baker
Dylan Baker

But you still pay a monthly fee, right?
again, no
you pay 10$ for an account and that's that
you can buy shit like avatars and avatar text for yourself or others, and access to the archives
and that's it, there's no "monthly fee"

Xavier White
Xavier White

Not really. People should be banned more often.

Austin Powell
Austin Powell

People no longer take it because they got alternatives so they no longer have to deal with the pathetic motherfuckers who typically serve as forum moderators.
Banning people for arbitrary bullshit is not going to improve a community.

Ian Walker
Ian Walker

People no longer take it because they got alternatives so they no longer have to deal with the pathetic motherfuckers who typically serve as forum moderators.

If they want to go on facebook they can go on facebook, but if they can't take a one week ban they shouldn't leave facebook

Adrian Howard
Adrian Howard

When discussing this shit it seems you boil down to three groups:

1-People that don't know what's going on and don't understand chan mechanics and only use the internet within their safe space bubble.

2-People that know what's going on but don't want to do anything about it because they think RL will change by itself due to shit they've read in a book once, and imageboard aren't relevant to RL anyway.

3-People that know what's going on but are too lazy/tired/numb/indifferent to do anything about it.

Andrew Turner
Andrew Turner

Banning people for arbitrary bullshit is not going to improve a community.
It will certainly create an invested community then it would create a deinvested one.

Tyler White
Tyler White

I don't understand what you're trying to say.

Andrew Morales
Andrew Morales

Are you niggas millionaires or something?
Where I live the minimum salary is 1.30$~ per hour and 10 dollars buy groceries for a whole family
I like censorship and jokes stolen from chans
Found the goon!!
Sounds terrifying
Found the goon!
Could be
So the other user is right, its a site for suckers

Blake Cook
Blake Cook

How?

Caleb Robinson
Caleb Robinson

Are you niggas millionaires or something?
$10 doesn't make you a millionaire.

Henry Jones
Henry Jones

you're not getting mine. the game can be as accurate or inaccurate as they like, but let's be honest about what motivated them to put a black person at the forefront of their marketing

i just want honesty

Jason Nelson
Jason Nelson

No, but does make you a sucker when there are a ton of free alternatives and the forum has a reputation for banning people for arbitrary bullshit.

Oliver Martinez
Oliver Martinez

Again, where I live that's a lot and I imagined in yankland it was a lot of money too.
What else can you buy with 10 in yankland?

Thomas Brown
Thomas Brown

Because if they want to put up with a ban and still post, they probably want to post something that matters once or twice at least. This would also be a great way to get rid of mobile posters, by banning wherever mobile area they're coming from.

Parker James
Parker James

What else can you buy with 10 in yankland?
The way you're making it sound, a fucking car apparently

Isaac Butler
Isaac Butler

That's a fucking retarded idea. Are you a former SA forum user trying to rationalize having used a forum for pathetic suckers?

Dominic Howard
Dominic Howard

No, but does make you a sucker when there are a ton of free alternatives and the forum has a reputation for banning people for arbitrary bullshit.

There should be a cost to posting.

Easton Moore
Easton Moore

see here:

Jaxon Sanchez
Jaxon Sanchez

There should be a cost to posting.
No.

David Jones
David Jones

That's a fucking retarded idea.
Look at how 4chan turned out with less moderation.

Brody Evans
Brody Evans

Cost being, serving bans or something unreasonable, yes

Easton Torres
Easton Torres

yeah like 1‰. please stop posting, leave and never come back.

Dominic Gomez
Dominic Gomez

That doesn't answer my question

Jacob Flores
Jacob Flores

A book, a lawn chair, a cheap fan, food

Jordan Jenkins
Jordan Jenkins

And look how SA and Facebook turned out with more moderation.

Kevin Nguyen
Kevin Nguyen

And look how SA and Facebook turned out with more moderation.
Facebook isn't comparable, and Something Awful, it created better jokes.

Lucas Johnson
Lucas Johnson

it created better jokes
created better jokes
better jokes
jokes
LoL

Angel Gray
Angel Gray

not an argument. please leave this board, you have zero knowledge about the topics you talk about, it's painful to read your posts.

Jeremiah Adams
Jeremiah Adams

I mentioned that here 10 dollars buy groceries for a family, i should add those could be 2 weeks worth of groceries stacked in the house.
Your comment really doesn't help me to make a compassion.
jokes seem to be the goon equivalent of what memes are to /pol/es. Both are ideologies anyway.

Liam Hughes
Liam Hughes

4chan created great long lasting jokes like, our best friends, pepe and wojack! rage faces that fucking reddit children abused. cancer

Something Awful had terrible jokes like that one totally unfunny time a moderator tried building his own house and fucked up terribly, insulating his own stairs

Isaiah Miller
Isaiah Miller

Both are ideologies anyway.
Jokes are ideologies. I'm smart now.

Nathaniel Foster
Nathaniel Foster

Agreed.

Jack Price
Jack Price

Groverhaus was not a joke……………..

David Ward
David Ward

Are you even familiar with the marxist definition of ideology?

Jace Allen
Jace Allen

If you think 4chan created better content than fucking Groverhaus you're a retard

Parker Hughes
Parker Hughes

Apparently to you, it's jokes.

Easton Bailey
Easton Bailey

But wojak is from polish chans.

Asher King
Asher King

You're clearly not interested in debating or having a sincere conversation.

Asher Cox
Asher Cox

You will expect people who can burn 10 a month to shitpost will be shamelessly rich and therefore libertarian or conservative,

It was pretty funny when one of SA's most vehement Marxists was outed as a materials engineer paid ~$150,000/year to design boxes for Hasbro toys

Brandon Flores
Brandon Flores

Nice joke.

Andrew Moore
Andrew Moore

Go away /pol/

Jace Hall
Jace Hall

It's from Krautchan's /int/, it was posted by a pole but the site is german.

Levi Morales
Levi Morales

The world would have been better if Something Awful existed and 4chan was never born.

Josiah Butler
Josiah Butler

it's painfully obvious you don't belong here.

Chase Robinson
Chase Robinson

Hilarious

Jayden Peterson
Jayden Peterson

Not really, the face itself, "that feel when" phrase and that fucking retarded attention whore are all from vichan, which used to be a main polish imageboard in 2009-2010, they just got exported to kc/int/ in the similar manner memes from sosach or ylilauta were.

Jace Morgan
Jace Morgan

So some historical accuracy is more important than other bits of historical accuracy. I say that's bullshit and nobody should be interested in it
You're saying that's bullshit because you are too stupid to understand the difference between historical inaccuracy to make gameplay possible and historical inaccuracy for the sake of political correctness.

Nathan Bell
Nathan Bell

It's a fucking big budget video game, it should be criticized for being a big budget microtransaction video game, not anything else that distracts from the fact of its own existence

Kevin Price
Kevin Price

These two memetic strategies are also discursive and anti-discursive. Discursive memes gain their survival advantage by leading to valuable/interesting/useful conversations, while anti-discursive memes subvert discussion in favor of self-reference. Rightism is intrinsically anti-discursive, questioning and inquiry are the death of conservativism. Anti-discursive memes are parasitic, subverting human agency to propagate themselves. The fedora meme is a famous example, it is a blatant attempt to derail criticism of religion.
This is what you get when a leftist paranoiac has no life except internet discussions.

Ryan Gutierrez
Ryan Gutierrez

I've seen far worse said on this terrible website

David Rogers
David Rogers

leftist paranoiac
As opposed to a rightist logician

lmao

Oliver Thompson
Oliver Thompson

Always get a chuckle out of you mongs not realising that you're the very NEET/incel types you mock on 4chan.

I've never seen an internet community with so little self-awareness and so much unwarranted self-importance in my entire life.

You all deserve to be raped in a deep, dark cellar.

Christian Jackson
Christian Jackson

leftist paranoiac
Some 30 something year old from /pol/ already killed their parents this week.

Isaac Green
Isaac Green

Always get a chuckle out of you mongs not realising that you're the very NEET/incel types you mock on 4chan.
Some 30 something year old from /pol/ already killed their parents this week.

I've never seen an internet community with so little self-awareness and so much unwarranted self-importance in my entire life.

You've never been around white nationalists?

Kayden Sullivan
Kayden Sullivan

Nice one pal but there's a board for that type of post >>>/yourpersonalblog/

William Martinez
William Martinez

I don't care about a video game having a big budget, I don't care about it being boring or repetitive, I barely play them anyway. I do care about SJW's rewriting the past to make it conform to their diversity quota's.

Sounds more like ironmarch, if it happened at all.

Elijah Hill
Elijah Hill

You've never been around white nationalists?
I've never browsed 8/pol/ properly, but on 4/pol/ a good deal of posters realise that they're fucking idiots, or at least not that intelligent, it just doesn't bother them.

Everyone on this board seems to think they're a genius, with ludicrously inflated egos to match. Personally, I find that far more obnoxious.

Thomas Smith
Thomas Smith

I don't care about a video game having a big budget and microtransactions
But I do care about SJW's

Priorities

Alexander Allen
Alexander Allen

all of that shit
implying
Look user, just be humble like the fictional burgers you just invented at 4pol and admit you're a dunce.

William Brooks
William Brooks

but on 4/pol/ a good deal of posters realise that they're fucking idiots

Hahahaha

Austin Hernandez
Austin Hernandez

The humbled posters of 4/pol/

Juan Richardson
Juan Richardson

Personally, I find that far more obnoxious.
Sucks, we could have been friends :v)

Adam Wood
Adam Wood

Perfect example of the attitudes I'm referring to.

You're a bunch of dipshits.

Henry Edwards
Henry Edwards

;_; don't call me a dipshit ;_;

Ryan Adams
Ryan Adams

You're a hot head

Jayden Lee
Jayden Lee

on 4/pol/ a good deal of posters realise that they're fucking idiots, or at least not that intelligent, it just doesn't bother them

Mother of god.

Gabriel Sanchez
Gabriel Sanchez

I'm dipshit???

Josiah Allen
Josiah Allen

Some 30 something year old from /pol/ already killed their parents this week.

Haha, I almost forgot that happened. Why didn't we shill that more? It's far worse than what Sam Kriss did and look how much the Aut Right crowd is talking about him and inflating his importance.

Parker Campbell
Parker Campbell

Has infowars said anything about it?

Angel Baker
Angel Baker

Talk shit, get hit.

Xavier Gonzalez
Xavier Gonzalez

Plz give me source for that , because if thats true then I'll laugh my ass off

James Green
James Green

https://twitter.com/bakedalaska/status/906760708322336768

https://twitter.com/bakedalaska/status/911384089759846401

Wyatt Parker
Wyatt Parker

https://www.goskagit.com/news/man-pleads-not-guilty-in-father-s-stabbing-death/article_479b3b6f-88d4-502d-ae77-ff5f098fb511.html

http://www.king5.com/news/local/community-mourns-loss-of-mr-samish-island/458685333

Isaiah Richardson
Isaiah Richardson

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/919323783000813568

Brayden Martinez
Brayden Martinez

The humbled users of 4/pol/ everybody

Brody Lopez
Brody Lopez

Court documents state Lane Davis started a fight with his parents July 14 at their home in the 4000 block of Wharf Street, accusing them of being “leftists” and “pedophiles.”
The "pedophiles" part makes me doubt this was really someone from /pol/ or someone similar. Stabbing your parents based on reading something on the internet about leftist pedophiles is mental illness that is not reducible to ideology.

Brody Nelson
Brody Nelson

That's it, keep proving me right.

Michael Perry
Michael Perry

Was Anews cool at any point in time

Alexander James
Alexander James

Are you niggas millionaires or something? Where I live the minimum salary is 1.30$~ per hour and 10 dollars buy groceries for a whole family
There isn't a single place in the first world where the salary is that low. For the vast majority of the people you interact with on a site like this it's about an hour's salary from the whole year at worst.
With that said, it was absolutely a waste of money which is why I included the pic I did.

Isaiah Perez
Isaiah Perez

Ok

Jaxson Phillips
Jaxson Phillips

mentioned that here 10 dollars buy groceries for a family, i should add those could be 2 weeks worth of groceries stacked in the house.
Lmao maybe where you live. In most places in burgerstan that is absolutely no the case.

Luis Johnson
Luis Johnson

Stabbing your parents based on reading something on the internet about leftist pedophiles is mental illness

Sounds like /pol/ in a nutshell tbqh.

William Sanders
William Sanders

He posted on r/T_D, which is basically entry-level /pol/. It is very likely that he was a /pol/tard,

Christopher Carter
Christopher Carter

His posting history was also chock full of references to posting on 4/pol/ and 8/pol/

Adrian Baker
Adrian Baker

The guy who ran over Heather fucking abused his wheel chair bound mother and choked her because she took away his video games.

This guy kills his parents

What the fuck is this Freudian shit going on at /pol/

David Carter
David Carter

Don't forget:

https://twitter.com/HonoredSpirit/status/921520560714211328

Aaron Williams
Aaron Williams

No it doesn't and if you believe it does you're deluding yourself for the sake of wanting to belief bad things about people you hate. The real crazy nazi's capable of murder aren't on /pol/ -they don't get enough attention there- they're on ironmarch.

r/T_D has I think around a million posters or so, /pol/ has around 2000 at best. I don't see the likeliness.

Landon Turner
Landon Turner

No it doesn't and if you believe it does you're deluding yourself for the sake of wanting to belief bad things about people you hate

But…they did

/T_D has I think around a million posters or so, /pol/ has around 2000 at best.

And the person made frequent mention of posting on both 4 and 8/pol/….so…..

Adam Gonzalez
Adam Gonzalez

Squealing like a cornered rat

Christopher Johnson
Christopher Johnson

Yeah, it's not like /pol/ doesn't promote plenty of batshit conspiracy theories like Pizzagate and Seth Rith and doesn't constantly cherry-pick data and incidents to foment hatred, resentment, and paranoia.

Jayden White
Jayden White

I mentioned that here 10 dollars buy groceries for a family, i should add those could be 2 weeks worth of groceries stacked in the house.
bullshit

Kevin Turner
Kevin Turner

It's almost as if fringe/radical politics attracts maladjusted abnormal weirdos

Gavin Sanders
Gavin Sanders

But nobody here has actually murdered their parents in cold bold. Or shot at a random bus. I mean the most you can accuse us of is punching someone or pushing over a trash can.

There's this ubiquity of parental abuse in /pol/ and I don't see it here.

Brayden Lewis
Brayden Lewis

mention anything related to economic or foreign policy
one or two /pol/yps post tops
mention anyting related to race or vidya
/pol/yps flood in
/Pol/itically and economically illiterate

Jose Edwards
Jose Edwards

What the fuck is this Freudian shit going on at /pol/
Happy people don't care about politics.

And the person made frequent mention of posting on both 4 and 8/pol/….so…..
…so…provide some evidence of that

Some people scour through thousands of emails, instagrams and news reports to find a pattern that makes it clear there really is some evil stuff going on among the elite (Jimmy Savile, Epstein). Others dismiss this on the grounds of it not simply being a thought-stopping cliché like "all bourgies are simply zombies of Capital so don't look into it because all you need is marx's word".

Dylan Williams
Dylan Williams

Stop making excuses for a board that harbors literal murderers bud.

Asher Gutierrez
Asher Gutierrez

They can only talk about what their ADHD lets them user

Chase Torres
Chase Torres

…so…provide some evidence of that

He posted on /ggrevolt/

Owen Murphy
Owen Murphy

Happy people don't care about politics.
Unhappy people don't just abuse or murder their parents. That's not an excuse.

Alexander Long
Alexander Long

But nobody here has actually murdered their parents in cold bold. Or shot at a random bus

Because Holla Forums is in no way comparable to half/pol/'s size or importance

There's this ubiquity of parental abuse in /pol/ and I don't see it here.
One alt-right nutcase abusing his disabled mother and another killing his parents is a "ubiquity of parental abuse" on an imageboard loosely associated with the alt-right

David Campbell
David Campbell

One alt-right nutcase abusing his disabled mother and another killing his parents is a "ubiquity of parental abuse"

I mean, I don't think it's coincidental at all, to be honest.

Jeremiah Cox
Jeremiah Cox

Because Holla Forums is in no way comparable to half/pol/'s size or importance

Moderate your board better then to try and weed out potential murderers. You could do that. I don't know.

Daniel Morales
Daniel Morales

far right racialist shit has never attracted homicidal nutjobs before /pol/

Sebastian Torres
Sebastian Torres

was Anders Behring Breivik the fault of /pol/ or does destroying the brain with paranoid nationalist shit just ruin people?

Joshua Ward
Joshua Ward

/pol/ is the Hell's Angles for mentally retarded people

Inclusion at last

Brandon Diaz
Brandon Diaz

4chan was made by Something Awful weebs

Jaxson Barnes
Jaxson Barnes

It became more than it ever should have been.

Lucas Thompson
Lucas Thompson

And SomethingAwful had what, three convicted murderers posting at one point or another?

Again, extreme politics attracts maladjusted weirdos looking for a moral framework to justify acting violently

Cameron Wilson
Cameron Wilson

And SomethingAwful had what, three convicted murderers posting at one point or another?

Yeah, but they weren't in the span of a single year. /pol/. What are you going to do about this.

Charles Price
Charles Price

Again, extreme politics attracts maladjusted weirdos looking for a moral framework to justify acting violently

Thanks for at least admitting /pol/ is only occupied by maladjusted freaks.

David Russell
David Russell

He was literally an 8/pol/ poster. His leddit posts are evidence of this.
https://archive.fo/bQ7qt
https://archive.fo/DuQJB

Thomas Davis
Thomas Davis

brainlet bully thread
4/pol/ are AUTISTIC! Hahahahaaa!

Joshua Parker
Joshua Parker

implying we don't also empty out our pissbottles at the end of the day

Luke Jones
Luke Jones

I miss moot. I wish he actually had that type of moderation.

Justin Cooper
Justin Cooper

This. Old imageboard culture is dead now.

Leo Reed
Leo Reed

Evidence?

Thanks, captain obvious.

Aiden Cooper
Aiden Cooper

I wonder what those 15 pics were.

Easton Anderson
Easton Anderson

see
And he hired one of those "I'll speak whatever you type for a price" internet people to advertize /ggrevolt/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0NevisRBuc

So yes he was a /pol/ poster and yes he did stab his father to death. In the same week some other /pol/ weirdos shot at people.

Evan Howard
Evan Howard

So what's the plan? Do nothing and wait for class consciousness to emerge spontaneously in the population?

William Bennett
William Bennett

Pandering to smooth retards on Holla Forums will do something I know it!

James Reyes
James Reyes

/ggrevolt/
BO of leftypol is the BO of /ggrevolt/
She can't keep getting away with it!

Matthew Mitchell
Matthew Mitchell

He literally said it's good if we lose the support of normies.

I mean, I happen to agree with him, but only because I don't believe we're ever going to have a revolution and that the best end we can hope for is the mass extinction of the proletariat. It isn't a very optimistic stance to take.

Jacob Cooper
Jacob Cooper

Because normies often insinuates the facebook using false consciousness addled dipshits who join the demcops and whine about rape culture. The average working person completely alienated from everything is a far larger demographic and our natural ally.

Jeremiah Watson
Jeremiah Watson

Not to mention the fact that we don't want the board to become mainstream. We want our ideology to.

Wyatt Edwards
Wyatt Edwards

Holla Forums doesn't represent anyone who's worth arguing for.

Jack Adams
Jack Adams

SA is a liberal shithole these days, whatever leftist element was once there has long since been purged.

John Williams
John Williams

Everybody loves Habbo Raids

Eli Robinson
Eli Robinson

came directly from the chans.
Most of them didn't give a fuck about the right years ago.
If you talked about fun or any of that shit, you would rightly get called a faggot.

Dylan Young
Dylan Young

There's actually some value in understanding the demographics of the working population. Do you have any good sources?

Jason Miller
Jason Miller

Unfortunately I just have a lot of anecdotal evidence and experience. I'm from a small town in North England that has always been a Labour stronghold and nobody here has a clue about internet drama, happenings, personalities etc. Like fascist rallies crop up and there's very little about it on the internet and still we have counter-demonstrations, and Momentum is a good example, you'll see hardly anyone here mentioning them and they're hardly mentioned on twitter (and the Americans have co-opted the name to add to confusion) yet they're the biggest political movement in Europe. They produce some good OC too, they were making some really good stuff around elections, some of it was posted here.
Momentum knock on doors and recruit people every day, that's their strong suit. They have dedicated people who will take a day out to get people on side, and put their point across on the doorstep. They almost swung the election on a shoestring budget, with Labour HQ funds (squandered by Blairites) they would have been able to knock it out the park. As far as I see it, the internet is only really good for minor coordinating and archiving texts, as well as propagating memes. However, this is just a very minor part of what's needed, what's needed is people actively engaging people in person, face to face. Most of the interactions I see online are by ideologue outliers who both refuse to budge.
tl;dr: Sorry I have no sources but it seems the internet should only be used as a tool secondary to face to face communication

Evan Morgan
Evan Morgan

I don't know man, the /k/ retard that made chlorine gas to test out his new gas mask was pretty fucking funny

Maybe stop cherrypicking for 5 seconds and realize both sites have their ups and downs in terms of humor

Julian Murphy
Julian Murphy

Was there a follow up to that thread? Did anyone find a news link or anything?

Jayden Martinez
Jayden Martinez

Not that I'm aware of but I could be wrong.

Jace Martinez
Jace Martinez

Thanks for the detailed post. It's interesting at least.

put their point across on the doorstep
I don't think I could actually hold a political discussion with the average voter in person without ending up committing murder-suicide. Just imagine having to politely listen to the most retarded bullshit and then pretend that you still have a shred of respect for their opinions.

Joseph Howard
Joseph Howard

iirc it was faked.

Nathaniel Clark
Nathaniel Clark

Yeah well it's Britain and the population is a lot more cynical despite the media barrage. People here used to yearn for a man that stood by his principles and so on but it's become apparent that a good chunk of these people were talking about people like Corbyn and another were talking about Hitler. Luckily the Hitler camp has become increasingly mocked and marginalised as well as the majority of youth holding them in contempt due to austerity.
The benefit of engaging face to face is people won't engage in the ridiculous attempts to "win" the debate you see online, like the thread we had earlier where someone attempted to argue that tsars were better than soviets because in pure numerical terms they killed less people through hunger, despite being multitudes worse percentage wise. Labour is in a lucky position here since the biggest rightist complaint they'll hear is immigration, which can be won quickly with the current platform that mass unskilled migration is a neoliberal ploy to undercut the British worker and the Tories have promised to cut that out but seen it grow by massive amounts. Simply addressing this on the doorstep will win you the vote of the average struggling kipper or working class Tory.

Liam Hernandez
Liam Hernandez

Your average SJW has enough technological prowess to use shit like an unmodified iphone, or Windows 10 applications. These are the same people who write for shows in Hollywood, like the gem of a scene from CSI where bad ass empowered female expert used the line “I’ll create a GUI interface using visual basic to track the killers IP”. To these people this kinda shit flies. They are no different than the morons back in the day on the news talking about the “infamous hacker known as anonymous”.

Jonathan Rogers
Jonathan Rogers

Here's a few more:

Jackson Wood
Jackson Wood

Oh, forgot this one.

Evan Collins
Evan Collins

That picture with Le Gay Man and Blackbird etc is old. Here's an updated one.

Zachary Gutierrez
Zachary Gutierrez

I was falling into the /pol/ altright rabbit hole but then I realized the real enemy wasn't the "Jew" or "BLM" or whatever, but instead the corporate elites that have slowly consolidated more and more power since Reagan. The right is responsible for the shit heap in this country today and these divisions the right pushes just serve to distract potential revolutionaries from directing their anger at the real enemy. The real division isn't race, but class, and the elites want the working class divided and fighting amongst themselves because then they won't target the real culprits. /pol/ cherrypicks leftists from tumblr, anita saresian, etc. who touched their precious virgin hobbies like video games as representing the entire left and combine that with cold war era anti-communist propaganda and a political education solely through memes you create a misguided bunch of teenage reactionary useful idiots thinking they're counter culture fighting a threat that is far less significant than they think it is.

Jackson Hughes
Jackson Hughes

Is there any *actual* proof Lauren Southern's been with at least one black guy or is that just /pol/ rumours?

Ian Morgan
Ian Morgan

it's a meme

she dated some skinny white guy with the "fashy" haircut iirc

Brody Howard
Brody Howard

Did they though.?

Sebastian Morales
Sebastian Morales

soros
lol

Colton Hernandez
Colton Hernandez

virgin hobbies like video games
Video games are mainstream as fuck these days, they're not some super-niche thing only targetted towards loser virgins or whatever it is you're implying.

Angel Wilson
Angel Wilson

muh vidya
Virgin detected

Nolan Hernandez
Nolan Hernandez

People who get outraged over "game journalism" or women playing games though are loser virgins. Just playing a game is fine, but letting it influence your political worldview is pathetic.

Leo Ortiz
Leo Ortiz

but letting it influence your political worldview is pathetic
This happens all the time though, and it's not just loser virgins who succumb to it. There's subtle political messages in lots of media.

Jacob Myers
Jacob Myers

Yeah of course. But these gamers are largely outraged over women getting involved with their hobby which reeks of some sort of sexual insecurity.

Chase Barnes
Chase Barnes

This meme was either made by /pol/ as a joke, or by the Sinead McCarthy crowd who call the Alt Right Jew shills and faggots on twitter.

Just saying.

William Harris
William Harris

Shut up, newfag shitposter.

Alexander Wright
Alexander Wright

Is three years of shitposting credentials really a newfag?

Charles Price
Charles Price

supporting mods
ever

Our project is human emancipation, not overgrown hall monitors telling people what they can and can't say.

Jason Ortiz
Jason Ortiz

Getting outraged over self-appointed censors is common sense, regardless of their gender. No one except her sycophants genuinely cares that Sarkeesian is a chick; we care that she wants games banned and devs blacklisted if they don't adhere to her narrowminded idpol.

If you're going to defend the "games I don't like are ruining society" crowd you're always going to lose /v/. You'd be much better off pointing out when /pol/ succumbs to that tendency themselves than defending slime like Sarkeesian and treating /v/irgins as your inferiors.

Owen Murphy
Owen Murphy

Mods aren't enslaving you. Calm down.

Tyler Cooper
Tyler Cooper

cumskin too for whatever reason.

Brandon Brown
Brandon Brown

and treating /v/irgins as your inferiors.
But they are

Levi Hughes
Levi Hughes

Explain to me how mods banning people because they think they'll do something bad IRL ("to try and weed out potential murderers) is compatible with leftism. It seems destined to be hierarchical and arbitrary as fuck.

Hudson Gonzalez
Hudson Gonzalez

did sarkeesian ever explicitly call for banning/blacklisting?

Nolan Anderson
Nolan Anderson

I can't believe many posters ITT unironically believe /pol/ turned other boards on 4chan racist
/an/ is the most racist board on 4chan by a country mile (They are thirsty for genocide) yet they are racist for completely different reasons than /pol/
/an/ despises asians and other nonwhites because of their extreme cruelty to animals and their extreme destruction of ecosystems, not because of muh interracial relationships like /pol/

Josiah Torres
Josiah Torres

boards like /an/ or /ck/ generally keep their shit contained whereas /pol/ is genuinely evangelical about it
/pol/ is an infected, swollen appendix leaking pus into the rest of 4chang and the rest of the Internet

James Perry
James Perry

Blacklists yes, repeatedly. She's even suggested not blacklisting people who disagree with her is male muh privilege or something like that, wish I saved the tweet but I can't be bothered to look.

Bans I'm not as sure about, but she sure as hell doesn't complain about them when they happen to the games she whines about. Not sure if she's done open advocacy or just wink-wink-nudge-nudge stuff.

Jeremiah Ramirez
Jeremiah Ramirez

Explain to me how mods banning people because they think they'll do something bad IRL

Listen to me

Because it's good

Samuel Price
Samuel Price

It's a pity that /an/ doesn't convert other boards to their cause
White environmentalism is the only way to save the world

Eli White
Eli White

White environmentalism
This sounds like an insult not a movement

Jaxon Parker
Jaxon Parker

How? Whites need to band together to save the ecosystems and extinguish the destructive nonwhite hordes

Jace Myers
Jace Myers

anonymous used to be anarchist.
well it is.

just not in 4chan anymore. but anywhere else it is. they have always wanted to have a free internet, never caring about anyone's policies.

Christopher Morgan
Christopher Morgan

White people HATE CAPITALISM, and other truths

Brandon Mitchell
Brandon Mitchell

Animal lib and PETA isn't in any way left
Whites need to band together to save the ecosystems and extinguish the destructive nonwhite hordes
lmao

Joseph Watson
Joseph Watson

You need money to be a leftist, and Goons have mad dosh.

Elijah Lee
Elijah Lee

The thing I don't get about white nationalists the most is they hate leftists with a passion but they'd rather have white leftists in their country than black people who agree with them? How does /pol/ rationalize this?

Colton Garcia
Colton Garcia

They just kill both

Isaiah Baker
Isaiah Baker

rightist logician
Bingo, it's the result of how the two work as systems of memetic evolution. Image boards tend to favor the production of a high quantity and low individual investment in memes, analogous to r-selection in biology (think of how frogs create a ton of offspring with little parental investment; pepe is a great mascot.) Traditional message boards favor a low quantity but high investment/effort in memes, analogous to human parental investment tactics (we spend a great deal of energy on each of our children.) SA is notoriously the latter, outright banning people for low-effort posts.

These two memetic strategies are also discursive and anti-discursive. Discursive memes gain their survival advantage by leading to valuable/interesting/useful conversations, while anti-discursive memes subvert discussion in favor of self-reference. Rightism is intrinsically anti-discursive, questioning and inquiry are the death of conservativism. Anti-discursive memes are parasitic, subverting human agency to propagate themselves. The fedora meme is a famous example, it is a blatant attempt to derail criticism of religion.

Jargon aside, there's something to this explanation. When they're badly losing an argument, a /pol/yp will frequently derail the discussion by resorting to some meme like Carl the Cuck or a Fedora as a way of saving face.

Kevin Wilson
Kevin Wilson

gamergate still seems so ridiculous that I can't believe there wasn't some sort of money behind it

Like I just… it.. just…

Ryan Young
Ryan Young

leftypol was born from gamergate too dumbass, I wouldn't have found it if it wasn't for GG. Most people just hated SJWs, the right wingers were smart enough to be the only people who just didn't condescend away their sentiments. Ultimately it was just an opportunistic con.

Andrew Green
Andrew Green

Base campaign for nwn1 looks like gold compared to todays turds. the fucking dialogue trees. TREES not little binary shit not really affecting the story. It affects how others interacted with you dialogue you got from them. Most Rpgs produced nowadays barely have any kind if involvement or player agency. the best or the closest i saw was that recent shadowrun which was a short game but damn it had some interactions. Most rpgs are constrained by voice acting. forcing binary choices. because muh voice acting is supreme.

Michael Ross
Michael Ross

Gamergate was to some extent a Bannon psyop.

Juan Cook
Juan Cook

Nope

But hey these are the same people who make petitions calling for social justice to no longer be taught at 'universities' and dismiss entire fields of research out of hand because muh narrative

Leo Rivera
Leo Rivera

leftypol is 95% a reaction against managerial liberals and idpol

Julian Brown
Julian Brown

It was going on for weeks and being shut down on half the web before Breitbart even bothered covering it, IIRC. GG would've been better off without them.

Most of Milo's articles were writeups of Holla Forums and KiA threads, sometimes with a modicum of journalistic effort thrown in. The one important thing he did was publish the Game Journo Pros leaks. It's frustrating how many people (on both sides, plenty of hero-worshipping tards in GG) started treating him as a prime mover and his website as important.

Gabriel Watson
Gabriel Watson

Literally nothing wrong with portraying a black guy on a cover of a ww1 game where they were present irl. Fuck your salty semantics.

William Hall
William Hall

This is true, GG had organically started with the Quinspiracy far before anyone serious had started covering it.

Josiah Perry
Josiah Perry

salty
hello reddit

Matthew Campbell
Matthew Campbell

The most infuriating thing about what Breitbart and their fellow travellers did was redirect GG energy to take down their political opponents. Games journalism is absolutely infested with pay-to-play, publishers will freeze out journalists who give bad reviews, and because it turned into a crusade against the SJWs nothing much changed.

Remember, the most any game reviewers did was publish voluntary ethics guidelines that have no teeth. That's it

Daniel Adams
Daniel Adams

Fake News.

Isaac Morris
Isaac Morris

Proof?

Cooper Clark
Cooper Clark

No it isn't

Dominic Richardson
Dominic Richardson

You do realize we're currently larger than /r/Socialism, right?

Anthony Rodriguez
Anthony Rodriguez

we're currently larger than /r/Socialism, right?
seriously?

Anthony Ramirez
Anthony Ramirez

A large core part of /pol/ fucked off and cuckmoot and co noticed a dramatic decline in content other then spam cancer. Who would have realized a echobox is bad for business. Same reason why reddit didn't take a total delete and censor everything approach, a new one like voat rose like wildfire and all it did was having users spill out into other subreddits, create new users accounts and have raids across their community causing a decline in content which directly impacted revenue generation.

It's also funny as fuck that gamergate exposed the corruption and inherent bias reporting in gaming journalism, yet they failed to go further and expose the entire corrupt media as a whole which took us several years and a election to mortally wound.

You forget nigger, we started /new/, sa/ng/reddit cancer simply came over and became the majority which is why we splintered out to /pol/ because the mods became insessant sjw banning cucks. Then /pol/ mods got taken over and pushed for more cancer so we fucked off, just like we are going to fuck off from this site because of the cancerous mods.

Colton Jackson
Colton Jackson

provide the source, user.

Xavier Myers
Xavier Myers

To be fair, liberals made it incredibly easy for Breitbart to exploit the movement. And even then it was just Milo and even then, before he saw the opportunity to jumpstart his career through them, he was a nobody, who had low opinions of gamers like any non-gamer, especially conservative ones.
Part of the problem was the mood back then. The word of Anita was basically law (no longer the case nowadays). Libs thought they achieved absolute victory and didn't put a liberal backup news outlet as support for GG, just to prevent right-wingers to monopolise the movement for themselves. As a matter of fact, they counted on it. It didn't worked out, as these pesky gamers proved to be resilent and they did reach what they want. Steam did an update which forced reviewers to disclose their relations with the pubs and devs.
BTW, they did the same fucking mistake later with Clinton. So cocksure were they about her winning against, Trump, they didn't even care about wooing "BernieBros" and Bernie States, which ultimately broke her neck and made Donald Trump president. DONALD FUCKING TRUMP. I know this guy since the 90ies and I still can't believe it. This is on the Democrats!

Logan Long
Logan Long

last time I checked, yeah.
we're at ~1000 posters on average while they usually have around 500.
you can correct me if I'm wrong about this, I haven't checked the numbers recently and I'm too lazy to do it now and take screenshots and such for evidence.

Jace Gray
Jace Gray

Gamers are already too opposed to us. They fell for the le physical removal communism is bad meme.

Nathaniel Parker
Nathaniel Parker

The word of Anita was basically law (no longer the case nowadays). Libs thought they achieved absolute victory

Before GG, how many people even knew or cared about Anita? From the way GGers talk about her, you'd think she was a member of Obama's Attorney General or some other official with huge amounts of influence but this couldn't be farther from the truth. She was a relatively obscure cultural critic.

Andrew Jackson
Andrew Jackson

Holla Forums so desperate in their obsession with NOT BEING /POL/ will side with AAA video game corporations pushing blatantly neoliberal politics to prove how not reactionary they are.

i really don't know why your kind continue to remain on chans. twitter is almost entirely controlled by leftists, yet you insist on poising every corner of the internet. if you want to complain how people upset about their hobbies being co-opted are neckbeard bigot virgins, there are plenty of journalists and celebs who will validate you on twitter

Jack Ramirez
Jack Ramirez

nah. except Wolfenstien. Kill more Nazis.

Landon Collins
Landon Collins

itt old GGers and people constantly shitting on the games industry
sure thang pal

Elijah Williams
Elijah Williams

Fuck off salt right reactionary

William Long
William Long

GET OUT OF MY RIGHT WING SAFE SPACE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Blake Carter
Blake Carter

leftypol/ so desperate in their obsession with NOT BEING /POL/ will side with AAA video game corporations
Your ideology literally defends corporations.

twitter is almost entirely controlled by leftists
liberals are leftist
this is your brain on /pol/

Easton Taylor
Easton Taylor

their hobby
implying the small vocal minority of pol can claim ownership of an entire industry

Henry Evans
Henry Evans

Well there was this but I don't really see moot as a non entity in the site becoming filled with right wing reactionaries, after chanology he actively banned people with outwardly political viewpoints that weren't meme ideologies or reactionary hatred and he constantly capitulated to news and pol users, until he tried to slightly back up on them at the worst possible time optically to do so during gamergate and by that point it was too late.

He also actively encouraged political users to fuck off back to plebbit, but never told bile filled retards this.

Hunter Parker
Hunter Parker

Hol up hol up, so you be sayin' a dozen of elderly Stormfags managed to magically turn a bastion of enlightened leftists like 4chan into hardcore Nazis in just one year?

If it was so easy, why don't YOU do it?

Ethan Martinez
Ethan Martinez

4chan was more just edgy liberalism back in the day, kinda like occupy.

Logan Campbell
Logan Campbell

shut up you dumb bitch

Jordan Bailey
Jordan Bailey

Most of the footwork was done by hundreds of shitposters fueled by non-stop torrent of rage from Breitbart/Milo. Really helps when the Mercers are happy to throw millions of dollars at you

If it was so easy, why don't YOU do it?
Soros' cheque bounced, obviously

Asher Jenkins
Asher Jenkins

Never underestimate the power of group spamming and shitposting

Christian Garcia
Christian Garcia

Whoa, I didn't know the EVIL RACIST SEXIST woman hater NEONAZI Milo was huge in 2010, thanks for informing me. I learn something new every day in this enlightened board where TRUTH is the core principle.

Wait, so you're saying the 2000+ Holla Forums intellectuals plus 800,000 reddit leftists got outplayed by a ragtag group of DUMB, TRUMP-LOVING, BANJO-PLAYING REDNECK HILLBILLIES from Stormfront?

Xavier Martinez
Xavier Martinez

you do know leftypol only had about 200 users originally right

Anthony Perry
Anthony Perry

I meant that they thrive in places with little to no moderation

Wyatt Phillips
Wyatt Phillips

they want to market to black kids who play videogames maybe?

Blake Davis
Blake Davis

2000+ Holla Forums intellectuals plus 800,000 reddit leftists
wut?

Charles Butler
Charles Butler

I meant that they thrive in places with little to no moderation

So you're saying that leftists can only thrive in heavily moderated places where discourse is highly controlled by a caste of moderators and their friends, and dissenting opinions outright banned?

Zachary Scott
Zachary Scott

It's a lot easier to blame your problems on a scapegoat than it is to have a nuanced discussion about them. Leftists thrive in an environment where there's norms that encourage ridicule of people who don't know what the fuck they're talking about (which absolutely wasn't the case with most of 4chan at the time the stormfront shilling was going on). Look at which boards were the last to fall to the /pol/ autism: /lit/, /mu/, /sci/, etc. The one characteristic they all had in common was a healthy culture of elitism.

Evan Cox
Evan Cox

Why is the left illiterate concerning fascism?
Not only being illiterate concerning their ideology but also on what causes people to adhere to it

Nolan Gutierrez
Nolan Gutierrez

21>>2176746

Juan Murphy
Juan Murphy

It's a lot easier to blame your problems on a scapegoat than it is to have a nuanced discussion about them.
You mean like blaming a nebulous all powerful cabal of Stormfront shills?

Leftists thrive in an environment where there's norms that encourage ridicule of people who don't know what the fuck they're talking about
Yet they failed to thrive on 4chan…

(which absolutely wasn't the case with most of 4chan at the time the stormfront shilling was going on).
…because of said mighty Stormfront shills that were magically capable of blocking the independent thinking of millions of anons?

Look at which boards were the last to fall to the /pol/ autism: /lit/, /mu/, /sci/, etc. The one characteristic they all had in common was a healthy culture of elitism.
So do /v/, /g/, /jp/, /k/, yet they are /pol/ satellites. Can you explain the discrepancy? And since when lefties love elitism?

Daniel Peterson
Daniel Peterson

You mean like blaming a nebulous all powerful cabal of Stormfront shills?
There absolutely was an attempt by white nationalists to spread their ideology by Stormfront. I'm not blaming anything on anyone, that's just what happened. Obviously the prevalence of reactionary thought online isn't entirely their doing.
Yet they failed to thrive on 4chan
Actually /lit/ and /mu/ were pretty leftist back in the day.
because of said mighty Stormfront shills that were magically capable of blocking the independent thinking of millions of anons?
I never claimed that Stormfront had a magical ability to convert people, that's retarded. My claim was that they shilled like crazy, which is true. Then they spread like cancer to other boards.
So do /v/, /g/, /jp/, /k/, yet they are /pol/ satellites. Can you explain the discrepancy?
Lmao, those boards didn't have anywhere near the same level of elitism though, and the elitism on those boards tends to be more focused on group identification than one's knowledge of the subject one's board is about.
/v/ was more about arguing about video games than it was about discussing the medium. I didn't browse /jp/, but I'm under the impression that it was kind of an /a/ offshoot? I dunno about /k/ either tbh.
I'd argue that /g/ used to have a more lefty vibe to it, even if it tended towards a kind of naive quasi-liberal cyber-anarchism.
And since when lefties love elitism?
Well I guess that depends on the leftist, but leftists have been into elitism since forever. Studying leftist theory and political philosophy is fun, but it's even more fun to do that socially. The best way to do this is through discussions and debates, which both entail elitism to some degree. Holla Forums happens to be one of the more elitist groups of leftists since imageboards lend themselves to that type of discourse.

Wyatt Green
Wyatt Green

/jp/
/v/ rage culture and the 2016 election actively made 4/jp/ less tolerant of /pol/yps. See, most people dont actually enjoy being constantly assmad about globalists removing our titty sliders from our vidya, so after more than a year of /pol/yp grievance seeking a lot of oldfags and regulars are sick and tired of the drama. Go there and post your dumb MAGA awoo girl and see how quickly you get a site wide ban.

8/jp/ is a dead board.

Ayden Myers
Ayden Myers

Legitimately: something awful has this bizarre tradition of "toxxing" where you "toxx" that something will happen and then if it doesn't happen you get banned and have to spend 10 bucks to reopen your account. This is entirely voluntarily, there is no benefit except smugness if you get it right, and yet hundreds of people do it every election.
Hundreds of people lost toxxes for mccain and singlehandedly shifted several subforums from right leaning to lefty echo chambers.
This combined with the reverse /pol/ effect in laissez faire, where the ron paul containment zone turned into the ironic third world maoism zone turned into the unironic third world maoism zone.

Jonathan Gutierrez
Jonathan Gutierrez

p.s. if you don't believe me, here's an archive of a recent 4/jp/ thread. About 80% of the posts are sitting on /v/ and /pol/ by proxy. They also unironically value the board's elitism as a way of enforcing some measure of quality control. For instance greentexting outside of using it to quote others is frowned on, and several people in the thread praise this elitism for helping them write better.
https://warosu.org/jp/thread/S17707613

Isaiah Walker
Isaiah Walker

also the name comes from a user who said he'd duct tape his dick to his balls if his thread got enough replies, and it did, and he didn't, and he got banned after plentiful warning

Ethan Bennett
Ethan Bennett

That thread is interesting because they are just making /pol/ and /v/ to be the boogeymen.

/jp/ too would get in arms when their favorite eroge get censored.

/v/ rage culture is enthralling because it gets shit done, apatheticness does not solve shit. In essential, /jp/'s "elitism" by these posters is about being shat on by people as much as possible while actively fighting people who are friendly to their cause i.e. /v/ and /pol/.

Jack Barnes
Jack Barnes

/pol/ has failed to radicalize the weeb boards precisely because there is no "censoring" going on. No one watches dubs or uses official releases except for faggot casuals.

Pic related. /pol/ has been spamming it on /a/ for months and always gets told to fuck off.

Jacob Cruz
Jacob Cruz

/v/ rage culture is enthralling because it gets shit done
/v/ undoubtedly did a bunch of stuff, but it never stopped to question why it did what it did. If you stop to consider what /v/ actually did it becomes clear that it was just a bunch of self-important nonsense that didn't actually achieve anything they claimed to stand for.

Eli Thomas
Eli Thomas

There's a fair bit of censoring going on with /jp/ since SJW actually go censor their visual novels.

On /a/'s case, they bypass it because they get stuff straight from Japan, but when they cannot anymore, that's when they will get radicalized too.

The censorship cancer is ever present and one you cannot ignore.

Michael Gomez
Michael Gomez

No way, is that real?

Jaxson Miller
Jaxson Miller

/v/ rage culture is enthralling because it gets shit done

About video games

So nothing gets done and its over nothing but spectacle

Andrew Parker
Andrew Parker

/v/ did the pushback of SJW and makes it actually mainstream to shit on them.

Before GG, feminists are something to be respected, at least in mainstream media.

Aaron Rogers
Aaron Rogers

That thread is interesting because they are just making /pol/ and /v/ to be the boogeymen
They're shit. They are fucking shit, you'll never make them better, and you need to stop feasting on other people's shit

Alexander Smith
Alexander Smith

/v/ is about video games, so they should do stuff about vidya games yes.

Landon Cook
Landon Cook

I don't care

Jacob Long
Jacob Long

/v/ is about video games
Fucking disgusting, what a terrible idea for a board

Daniel Hernandez
Daniel Hernandez

/v/ is about video games
an interesting theory, but on the other hand, every single post on /v/

Luke Hill
Luke Hill

on the contrary, /pol/ is the closest to ye old 4chan with the unironic racist humor and conspiracy rambling style.

The other boards that hate /pol/ do behave like leddit and tumblr while accusing /pol/ of being leddit and tumblr.

Grayson Rogers
Grayson Rogers

/v/ was responsible for the intensification of SJW culture. They literally gave feminists the boogeyman they needed to take off into the stratosphere. If /v/ had responded without the rage and with some intelligence they might have made things better and not worse like they did.

Noah Rivera
Noah Rivera

on the contrary, /pol/ is the closest to ye old 4chan

You were born after 1995 you don't get to say shit about "the old internet" fuck off I'm tired of listening to people in high school talk about how fucking awful that website is now being good

Just stop boasting about how much you love eating up bullshit, it's annoying everyone

Lucas Edwards
Lucas Edwards

On /a/'s case, they bypass it because they get stuff straight from Japan, but when they cannot anymore,
Impossible. Unlike gaymers and /pol/tards, weebs are actually quite technologically adept and competent at life (at least with respect to getting access to the media that they want.) They've been doing it for decades now I don't think they will stop.

Jose Thompson
Jose Thompson

On the contrary, /v/ is responsible for basically half of the internet going against SJW, and now you can be made fun on mainstream media for being a feminist.
If /v/ had responded without the rage and with some intelligence they might have made things better and not worse like they did.
Yeah, like the comic industry. Nope, just nope.

Ryan Evans
Ryan Evans

that's not any closer to old 4chan because on old 4chan it was IRONIC racist humor. Non-racist humor and unironic racist humor are both a step removed, just in opposite directions. Frankly the death of old 4chan is entirely at /pol/'s feet, non-poltards don't want to get confused for poltards so they toned down on ironically doing what /pol/ does unironically.

Michael Bailey
Michael Bailey

i mean if you watch dubs you deserve everything that happens to you

Daniel Sanchez
Daniel Sanchez

while accusing /pol/ of being leddit and tumblr.
You don't even understand the point is both are obsessed with identity politics. I was around when the reddit criticism

was about the age of posters posting, nothing more nothing less

It's changed into, what is it, a bogeyman? You've completely lost what the criticism was

People who now criticize reddit were the people in direct criticism at the inception of it all

Joseph Green
Joseph Green

When Japan i.e. the source gets cucked and starts to shill for diversity and liberalism, then the weebs gotta fight for their interests.

Nathan Nguyen
Nathan Nguyen

/pol/ is the closest to ye old 4chan with the unironic racist humor and conspiracy rambling style.

Old 4chan was ironic about everything you faggot. It also was what you would call "reddit tier" in many ways so just shut the fuck up.

Dylan Foster
Dylan Foster

I don't give a fuck about consumer activism fuck off

Aiden Brown
Aiden Brown

The leddit criticism is because leddit is a circlejerk where anominity is shamed, posts are upvoted and they delete posts like flies.

While you can have fucking commies and anarchist threads on /pol/.

Benjamin Morgan
Benjamin Morgan

It was literally about how fucking old you were, this shit was an afterthought. You weren't even fucking here in 2008 fuck offfff

Andrew Perry
Andrew Perry

The whole ironic racist is a revisionist meme.

The same with newfag.

There's no proof that old 4chan was this liberal, nigger-caring website.

Dylan Thomas
Dylan Thomas

We were literally all, fucking there. You were not.

Lucas Hall
Lucas Hall

I was on 4chan since 2007 actually.

Been there since 10 years until moot cucked out and started censoring GG.

That's when I decide 4chan lost the ball and need to find an alternative.

Carter Sanchez
Carter Sanchez

It didn't care about niggers. But it also didn't care about muh white nationalism either. Caring about things isn't ironic. It's post-2015 /pol/ faggotry.

Jaxon Taylor
Jaxon Taylor

I'm a 2007-channer here.

Go on, shock me with your revisionism.

Henry Gonzalez
Henry Gonzalez

/v/ is responsible for basically half of the internet going against SJW
This literally isn't true. /v/ only inspired a small group of people to be loud and obnoxious.
Yeah, like the comic industry.
Lmao, you're a literal meme

Angel Reyes
Angel Reyes

I'm a 2007-channer here.
You've shown me that you fucking aren't

Austin Myers
Austin Myers

It cares about western culture and it has always hated the hurt-feeling sentiments promoted by liberals.

Liberals didn't stop that of course, and everything went rightward.

Alexander Brooks
Alexander Brooks

old 4chan wasn't liberal no, no one is saying that, because guess what, liberals aren't down with ironic racism either

Camden Thompson
Camden Thompson

It cares about western culture
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Bitch are you for real old 4chan didn't care about "Western Culture" and you're fucking moralizing go suck a fucking shotgun

Dear god

Luis Barnes
Luis Barnes

The clearest giveaway of a newfriend is the constant accusations of being new.

Dylan Cruz
Dylan Cruz

This literally isn't true. /v/ only inspired a small group of people to be loud and obnoxious.
Man, I do not know what you have been, but I actively post comments and shit on feminists in mainstream journo sites and in real life now.
Lmao, you're a literal meme
The comic industry is a sad joke because they refuse to stand up to SJW. I'm glad I was never into western comic.

Gavin Thomas
Gavin Thomas

I dont want people spammimg and trying to drown me out with with nigger and nazi memes when im trying call some dipshit out on his bullshit.

Kayden Hill
Kayden Hill

Old 4chan was actually a contrarian place, it hated Bush, but then again, nowadays they still hated Bush.

And even then, the root of Christianity was growing, and debate of atheism vs religion were made daily. After atheism was embraced by socjus, the religious side wins.

Hudson Ortiz
Hudson Ortiz

Nigger.

You are so easily mad, how can you call out anyone?

Juan Howard
Juan Howard

It cares about western culture
Old 4chan literally went around calling people carefags for having positive opinions about things, they did not fucking care about western culture, except perhaps through mild antipathy, because old 4chan had at least mild antipathy towards literally everything

Jason Phillips
Jason Phillips

Sounds like 4chan started getting populated by spoiled American children, just like what everyone was worried would happen

Gross. Fuck off

Isaiah Adams
Isaiah Adams

Old 4chan does care about western culture.

I mean they shit on modern western culture and love jap culture, but they have always had respect for the classic-feudal-enlightenment era.

Nathan Sanders
Nathan Sanders

I actively post comments and shit on feminists in mainstream journo sites and in real life now.
Guess what? You're one of the members of the obnoxious minority I was talking about.
The comic industry is a sad joke because they refuse to stand up to SJW.
Lol you're doing a bit, right? Let me guess: you also think that sci-fi has been feminized and watered down recently. Wew

Landon Lee
Landon Lee

And even then, the root of Christianity was growing, and debate of atheism vs religion were made daily. After atheism was embraced by socjus, the religious side wins.
Man you were full of shit before but somehow this tops everything

Robert Walker
Robert Walker

This is why Something Awful will always be better. There's always someone as insipid as you that needs to be taught how to act with a nice one week ban.

Everyone should experience, and take, a one week ban, at least once.

Elijah Gonzalez
Elijah Gonzalez

4chan is an american site.
Even fucking old /b/ was spamming greco-roman arts.

Jesus man, I really doubt you were a channer-back then.

Jonathan Hughes
Jonathan Hughes

Even fucking old /b/ was spamming greco-roman arts.
No, it literally wasn't. lol

Joshua Ross
Joshua Ross

It was spamming child pornography, I've never encountered greco roman art bullshit until after 2014

Andrew Wood
Andrew Wood

Breitbart hijacked GG early on and turned it into a right wing liberal recruiting tool. Without Bannon's support GG would have fizzled out pretty quickly (at least in the public's consciousness.)

Luke Turner
Luke Turner

Yeah, getting authoritian now? Needing the mod to lend a hand?
The truth is I'm not.

I was there as a spectator, in truth I was thinking the more logical side i.e. atheism was gonna win.

But then, atheism plus happened, and that was a proto-GG era.

Aiden Jackson
Aiden Jackson

Don't powertrip too hard there, Mr. Hot Pocket

Grayson Bell
Grayson Bell

The greco-roman arts were the memes back then.

Remember the thinking man? No, not the brain guy ones.

John Gomez
John Gomez

How can you not be mad at them? Theyre idiots. They dont listen, they think if they can semanticaly dance around shit while randomly posting 5 kb artifacted cropped out Autism Level charts and blacked cuck memes does anything. Im sick of it

Alexander Anderson
Alexander Anderson

Yeah, getting authoritian now? Needing the mod to lend a hand?
Yeah. Banning shouldn't be as hard as getting a broken arm. You take the ban for acting like a complete retard, and you think back "How can I stop being a retard, and stop letting my ass get fucked on a daily basis"

You relax, compose yourself, sit back, drink some tea, and come back one week later a little more thought out.

If it irritates you too much, you should consider not posting at all.

Evan Russell
Evan Russell

Even fucking old /b/ was spamming greco-roman arts.

Dude what? I recall a lot of porn, roll threads, and meme threads (cock mongler was my favorite) but no unironic "greco-roman art threads." How fucking old are you? 15 is my guess.

Gabriel Jenkins
Gabriel Jenkins

Also, the ban messages are usually pretty funny

Leo Evans
Leo Evans

Yeah, getting authoritian now?
Bitch it's just a ban lmaoooooo how can you be a part of "OLD 4CHAN xd" and never experience a fucking ban

Get out of here

Elijah Taylor
Elijah Taylor

go back to reddit if you want to suck mod cock

Isaac Flores
Isaac Flores

Dude, just think they are words on the internet.

Then again, I'm not on the losing side of the culture war.

Jace Murphy
Jace Murphy

SA was a site for paypigs and other masochistic types. I get that you enjoy it, but it isn't for everyone. 'chans generally have laxer policies

Austin Roberts
Austin Roberts

No, mods are and always have been necessary. Go to /b/ if you want unmoderated discussion

Levi Barnes
Levi Barnes

The greco-roman arts were used as memes.

Remember that painting that had "Read this? You are a fucking faggot?", even back then, 4chan had an appreciation of beauty.

Austin Price
Austin Price

chans generally have laxer policies
They didn't in the past. Things were better when mods actually had the ability to ban.

Anti banning is political correctness

Daniel Phillips
Daniel Phillips

The greco-roman arts were used as memes.
No
They
Were
Not

Connor James
Connor James

use as a meme is completely orthogonal to respect or appreciation

Lincoln Howard
Lincoln Howard

Now that's revisionism.

Pic related, the original thinker.

Jordan Russell
Jordan Russell

Don't you remember? /b/ was the place where all the high class, smartist, 300+ Autism Level members of the internet congregated to talk about Astronomy and quantum physics and rocket heart surgery

Liam Edwards
Liam Edwards

They didn't in the past.
I didn't ask what they were like in the past, moron. You're missing my point. People on chans generally prefer lax moderation because they aren't boot-licking paypig cucks. It's fine that you are, but don't try to criticize others for not being into that.

Joseph Thomas
Joseph Thomas

They were used because those pictures were beautiful, basic instinct of 4channers.

They weren't ironic.

Ryder Barnes
Ryder Barnes

Literally nobody gave a fuck that it was greek art lmao. I never saw this in mass use before like, at least fucking 2009? 2010?

What are you talking about

Mason Foster
Mason Foster

nah, 4chan was designed so that it could be moderated by the posters. if you don't like a thread, don't reply or sage. thats part of what set it apart from forums

Josiah Smith
Josiah Smith

2176958
People on chans generally prefer lax moderation
It doesn't matter what they prefer, in comparison to what they need to survive as a community. What they needed, was what we had. Strict rules for discussion.

Jaxon Gonzalez
Jaxon Gonzalez

Well, I'm a 2007 guy and thinker was used until what? 2010.

And nobody gives a fuck, but they use it anyway, showing their instinct of favoring western culture (when they have no jap culture equivalence).

Lucas Sanchez
Lucas Sanchez

showing their instinct of favoring western culture

hahaha blow it out your ass nobody respected western culture in 2007

William Green
William Green

/jp/ too would get in arms when their favorite eroge get censored.
/jp/ has gone through decades of feeble censorship campaigns by the LDP. We get our VNs straight from the source and know that nothing will happen. Do your anki reps, niwaka
/v/ rage culture is enthralling because it gets shit done, apatheticness does not solve shit. In essential, /jp/'s "elitism" by these posters is about being shat on by people as much as possible while actively fighting people who are friendly to their cause i.e. /v/ and /pol/.
We don't have a cause and multiple people openly stated that they hate how modern can culture takes things too seriously. It's obvious you barely post on 4/jp/ since the board's motto is "Take it easy!"

Like I said, nothing is going to happen and we don't pay attention to your fear mongering. This is a country where loli eroge are openly sold online and in major retailers despite Ishihara's reign in Tokyo.

I miss being told I was banned for three days for "Replying to godawful shitposting"

Can confirm as a /jp/sie. Mods were almost non-existent in 2013 and the result was a spamming plague of niggy and Japanese birds cooking spaghetti

People who freak out about fucking DUBS are casuals whining about nothing and are rightfully laughed out of threads. /pol/yps post so much they can't even bother torrent a fucking .mkv file

Luke Sullivan
Luke Sullivan

nah, 4chan was designed so that it could be moderated by the posters
"No"

Alexander Wilson
Alexander Wilson

And if you go back to pre-2006, there was this incident where everybody hated furries, and roleplayed as War40K space marines to exterminate them.

Carter Robinson
Carter Robinson

You are stretching

Xavier Brown
Xavier Brown

You're wrong and dumb. SA sucked donkey dicks.

Sebastian Hall
Sebastian Hall

what they need to survive as a community
What does that even mean?

Ryan Hall
Ryan Hall

I'm not talking about SA. I'm talking about chans actually enforcing what they used to enforce.

Tyler Reyes
Tyler Reyes

Banning off topic threads, making bans scale in severity in relation to not appreciating the rules.

Leo Harris
Leo Harris

/jp/ has gone through decades of feeble censorship campaigns by the LDP. We get our VNs straight from the source and know that nothing will happen. Do your anki reps, niwaka
Yeah, but Japan has not embraced diversity and liberalism, yet. If history shows, it's not the conseratives that will massively censor, but the liberals will force the authors to self-censor.
We don't have a cause and multiple people openly stated that they hate how modern can culture takes things too seriously. It's obvious you barely post on 4/jp/ since the board's motto is "Take it easy!"
Take it easy is a meme, when people shit on you, do you take it easy?
Like I said, nothing is going to happen and we don't pay attention to your fear mongering. This is a country where loli eroge are openly sold online and in major retailers despite Ishihara's reign in Tokyo.
I mean, Rapeplay was banned, and the 2012 Olympic is coming.

Charles Thompson
Charles Thompson

What are you thinking my man

Thinking about how much you hate being banned

Hunter Powell
Hunter Powell

It's fact.

Connor Green
Connor Green

I mean, Rapeplay was banned, and the 2020 Olympic is coming*

Nathan Lopez
Nathan Lopez

This is an example of a man who would have been banned ten posts ago.

Elijah Anderson
Elijah Anderson

How come so many SomethingAwful goons became left-wing while 4chan became right-wing
Because you touch yourself at night.

Jayden Scott
Jayden Scott

Any statement by moot or some other, saying something like this?

Christian Miller
Christian Miller

Most smaller boards and /vg/ prefer an active moderation to clean up off-topic nonsense. With the growth in popularity there's more crossboarders refusing to keep on topic.

Matthew Brown
Matthew Brown

Why are you so authoritarian?

Ryan Wood
Ryan Wood

It's fact but it had nothing to do with /pol/ as it is today. It happened because deviantart fucking sucks dick and nobody wanted to see that shit

You
Are
Stretching

Andrew Myers
Andrew Myers

Because I come from a time on the internet where people got banned and didn't whine like a fucking spoiled child about free speech rights about it, and those that did were mocked for being such a whiny bitch.

So, to me, you're pathetic. You're low. You're really sad and annoying.

Jose King
Jose King

The ban message that he inevitably would've ban evaded and posted a screenshot of would've been HILARIOUS

Ayden Sanchez
Ayden Sanchez

Deleting off-topic threads and banning people for breaking rules doesn't even come close to SA's moderation style, which you claimed was better than chan moderation styles were. You're backpedaling fam.

Alexander Gray
Alexander Gray

Well, imagine if nobody want deviantart to take over the industry.

Now replace that with SJW.

I'm just showing that even back then, the channers were siding with space fascists.

Brandon Gray
Brandon Gray

Banning off topic threads
Sure, I agree with that. I definitely don't agree that SA-style moderation is something to follow, discussions there can be incredibly obnoxious even despite the stricter moderation.

Aiden Rodriguez
Aiden Rodriguez

You sound really triggered, friend.

I come from a time when you aren't banned for saying bad words.

Luke Rodriguez
Luke Rodriguez

Deleting off-topic threads and banning people for breaking rules doesn't even come close to SA's moderation style
True, but then again, it was better than nothing.

which you claimed was better than chan moderation styles were

It should have been embraced around 2012.

Logan Ward
Logan Ward

You sound really triggered, friend.
Says the person comparing getting banned to having your free speech rights violated

Caleb Taylor
Caleb Taylor

SA is not actually strict, it's just arbitrary, because the primary punishments are widely regarded as No Big Deal

Robert Gomez
Robert Gomez

Yes, I do, because I get my free speech right violated.

What have I done you wrong, friend?

Isaiah Nguyen
Isaiah Nguyen

I'm just showing that even back then, the channers were siding with space fascists.

No, they didn't like deviantart because the art was drawn by autistic people and looked god damn terrible and tacky

You're fucking stretching so hard god damn dude

Liam Powell
Liam Powell

see Your opinions are irrelevant. SA's moderation style didn't catch on because it was bad and autistic.

Ryder Reed
Ryder Reed

you have a right to speech, you don't have a right to a platform
unless someone is coming by with guns to literally stop you from opening your mouth or putting pen to paper, you can speak all you want

Levi Walker
Levi Walker

Yes, I do, because I get my free speech right violated.

hahaha this nigga thinks getting banned is a rights violation

Jacob Bennett
Jacob Bennett

It doesn't matter if it didn't catch on, what matters is it clearly should have caught on.

Nathan Collins
Nathan Collins

It's way stricter than 4chan or Holla Forums, you wouldn't get away with nearly the amount of shit on most boards there as you could here. It definitely can be arbitrary at times though.

Aaron Allen
Aaron Allen

actually, SA's moderation is hilarious and it didn't catch on because of unrelated issue tenbux

Jaxson Parker
Jaxson Parker

HELP HELP POLICE

I'VE BEEN BANNED

Hunter Phillips
Hunter Phillips

Yeah, I'm just speaking though, who gives me a podium here?
So they don't like deviantart.

So they roleplay as terminators purging furries.

Yeah man, really, really stretching here.

Jace Turner
Jace Turner

This should be accurately rephrased as

HELP HELP MOD

SOMEONE SAY BAD WORDS

David Howard
David Howard

Yes, you are stretching

Grayson Martinez
Grayson Martinez

No it was phrased fine.

Wyatt Carter
Wyatt Carter

You're the one accusing us of being mad lmao

Nathan Powell
Nathan Powell

Yeah, I'm just speaking though, who gives me a podium here?

Always remember /pol/

You're posting because we allow it. If you get too sketchy, you can be banned at any moment.

Benjamin Clark
Benjamin Clark

SA's mod style promotes the kind of annoying, insular culture that eventually lead to SA's decline. If you want an annoying culture that nobody outside of it understands or likes then SA's mod style is great!

William Miller
William Miller

Let the spectators be the judge.
Yeah, I'm not the one crying for daddy to come help.

Lucas White
Lucas White

Ah, but this is a free speech board?

Leo Bennett
Leo Bennett

Holla Forums is giving you a podium. if you were on something awful something awful would be giving you a podium. when you are on 4chan 4chan is giving you a podium. You do not have a right to any of these podiums, because right there alongside free speech in the first amendment is free association, people have a right to not want to be linked to whatever nonsense you're spouting out.

Sebastian Hill
Sebastian Hill

I mean, Rapeplay was banned, and the 2012 Olympic is coming.

You can still get that game though. You just can't buy it (if you live in an area where it is banned.) That's the difference between weebs and gamers. Weebs don't need to be spoonfed. Also a lot of the "censorship" comes from Japan itself so it cannot be blamed on le SJWs or "the jews" which makes it way harder for /pol/ to wind people up over it.

Jacob Morales
Jacob Morales

Spectator here:
You're full of shit

Jaxon Kelly
Jaxon Kelly

Let the spectators be the judge.
This isn't /b/. No.

Josiah Moore
Josiah Moore

It's in my spectator's opinion that you should finally just shut up

Brandon Ramirez
Brandon Ramirez

This is a ancap board, the boards are the petty fiefdoms of the Board Owners

Noah Fisher
Noah Fisher

Ah, but this is a free speech board?
Nobody cares about free speech.

Jaxon White
Jaxon White

No, you can't that game legally in Japan.

You break the law by getting it.

Despite the fact it was legal years before, weebs know of this, but because they feel Japan is still safe, they still want to remain ignorant regarding the future.

But the future looks bleak if the SJW cancer isn't stopped in the west.

Alexander Rivera
Alexander Rivera

tenbux lead to SA's decline

Alexander Morris
Alexander Morris

Hand 4chan over to Lowtax.

Please.

Ryan Scott
Ryan Scott

So do we all have a podium here?

I'm not asking you to listen to me, I'm just speaking, man.

Jason Watson
Jason Watson

Someone screencap this post.

Would serve as good /pol/ screencap.

Anthony Jenkins
Anthony Jenkins

You don't have freedom of speech rights on the internet.

Charles Peterson
Charles Peterson

I'm not even joking, you and I both agree that it would be good if 4chan was owned by Lowtax.

Gavin Perez
Gavin Perez

That's not the only reason it declined. There used to be a more people who were willing to pay ten bones to post than there are now.

Ethan Phillips
Ethan Phillips

But the board's FAQ?

Luis Powell
Luis Powell

the difference between 4chan and anywhere else is ultimately in the inability to spot repeat offenders. Sometimes there are things that are acceptable when done occasionally, but when someone won't stop doing them they become a problem. Anonymity makes it hard to spot 10 people doing something once vs 1 person doing something ten times, whereas in other places the latter might get banned, giving whatever it is greater prevalence on chans

Dominic Campbell
Dominic Campbell

Yeah, no, that dude got boxed by Uwe Boll.

Fucking Uwe Boll.

Charles Long
Charles Long

"freedom of speech" doesn't exist unless you are free from consequences. the internet is probably the closest you can get

James Wood
James Wood

He still knows how to run a website into the ground and that's exactly what 4chan needs right now.

Oliver Johnson
Oliver Johnson

Yeah, but Japan has not embraced diversity and liberalism, yet. If history shows, it's not the conseratives that will massively censor, but the liberals will force the authors to self-censor.
Which is why every major push to censor in Japan is coming from the openly nationalist Abe government's right wing faction
muh rapelay
You can still buy it in Mandarake and pirate it online. No one cares enough to enforce a ban on a cartoon
Take it easy is a meme
It's a fairly accurate state of mind and a good explanation for why /jp/sies don't get in autistic arguments all the time anymore
And yeah, I really don't care if people are shitting on me on the Internet. It's the Internet, most of it is pointless, forgive me if I'd rather spend my time jacking it to big milky Karasuma-sensei titties than getting mad at strangers online.

I hate to say it but even on 4chan, there's lots of people who just don't take this fucking vidya crusade seriously. You're wasting your life on something pointless and probably not even playing vidya since you're too busy posting and getting Mad Online

Ethan Perry
Ethan Perry

you are asking Holla Forums to publish what you're speaking though, and thanks to the wonders of free association that is not an obligation on their part

Xavier Hernandez
Xavier Hernandez

Hmmmm.

Evan Russell
Evan Russell

And so, consequences must be reintroduced.

Alexander Stewart
Alexander Stewart

I'm not asking to push shit.
You just pirate it bro.

Nathaniel Brooks
Nathaniel Brooks

they slowly are, by social media corporations and angry mobs

Thomas Gomez
Thomas Gomez

Every post is a request to publish your thoughts on 8ch dot net, for "free"

Mason Roberts
Mason Roberts

Your fault tbh.

Logan Gray
Logan Gray

Every time you click the new reply button, you are asking Holla Forums to publish your speech

Jason Jackson
Jason Jackson

If i walk into a bar full of bikers, approach one of them and call him a faggot. He proceeds to best the living shit out of me. Was my right to freedom of speech violated?

Cooper Murphy
Cooper Murphy

freedom of association doesn't exist unless you AREN'T free from consequences

Gabriel Robinson
Gabriel Robinson

maybe, on the other hand if the bouncer breaks it up and kicks you out of the bar, no

Anthony Diaz
Anthony Diaz

Which is why every major push to censor in Japan is coming from the openly nationalist Abe government's right wing faction
Abe faction wants to ban lolicon, the SJW want to ban way more and they are more active in social media that shame and force artists to self-censor, it actually has happened recently.
You can still buy it in Mandarake and pirate it online. No one cares enough to enforce a ban on a cartoon
Yet they care enough to ban it when it was perfectly legal before, just because SJWs in the west complain about it. And Rapelay is a vidya game.
It's a fairly accurate state of mind and a good explanation for why /jp/sies don't get in autistic arguments all the time anymore
But the autistic argument was what made /jp/, the NEETbucks, the tripfag war, the Japan political discussion. The modern /jp/ where everyone is drowned in idol culture and kancolle and Touhou (that no one even know the lore) are actually much faker than old /jp/.
And yeah, I really don't care if people are shitting on me on the Internet.
It's not the internet I'm speaking about, it's actually about censorship that ruins things for everyone.

Michael Gutierrez
Michael Gutierrez

I'm just posting man.

Joshua Turner
Joshua Turner

Banning rapelay was a token ban that the LDP enacted to signal to religious conservatives. I think it also happened shortly after an otaku went nuts and stabbed several people in akiba
Keep in mind, porn is technically illegal in Japan. You can't show genitals. People get around this with mosaic pussies and black bars on dicks.

No one cares. Stop worrying and take it easy.

Jordan Martinez
Jordan Martinez

there is no such thing as just posting unless you are stapling posters up to posts (which people are entirely free to tear down without any violation of your free speech)

Juan Evans
Juan Evans

Stop saying bro and man you sound like a faggot I want to slap in the face

Charles Cruz
Charles Cruz

Stop worrying and take it easy.
Can do user.

Christian Roberts
Christian Roberts

Explain that image too me

Eli Cooper
Eli Cooper

Someone breakout the Ben Garrison labels.

Carson Edwards
Carson Edwards

the ice fairy froze a bunch of pepes in ice

Jaxon Jackson
Jaxon Jackson

Rapelay was banned because SJW actually wanted to ban it.
Equality Now followed up on the game, urging activists to write to Illusion and Japanese Prime Minister Taro Aso in protest, arguing the game breaches Japan's obligations under the 1985 Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women.[6] In May 2009, these actions culminated in the restriction of the sale and production of RapeLay by the Ethics Organization of Computer Software (EOCS), an independent Japanese ratings organization for adult games, making the purchase of the game impossible.[7]
It was not a move from the right.

The Akiba stabbing happened in 2008.

Stop historical revisionism.

Benjamin Sanchez
Benjamin Sanchez

It was not a move from the right.
Yes it was.

Jaxon Turner
Jaxon Turner

I'm just doing what the board is about, posting contents.

And it's not the "people" who take down the contents, but the authority ala the mod and janitors.

Austin Perez
Austin Perez

I think you're overstaying your welcome.

Carson Adams
Carson Adams

But the autistic argument was what made /jp/, the NEETbucks, the tripfag war, the Japan political discussion.
Jesus, are you seriously saying that /jp/ was better when every thread was derailed with tripfag drama, niggy spam and endless blogposting about your piss bottles?

Jack White
Jack White

No, it wasn't.

Here I quote again:
Equality Now followed up on the game, urging activists to write to Illusion and Japanese Prime Minister Taro Aso in protest, arguing the game breaches Japan's obligations under the 1985 Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women.[6] In May 2009, these actions culminated in the restriction of the sale and production of RapeLay by the Ethics Organization of Computer Software (EOCS), an independent Japanese ratings organization for adult games, making the purchase of the game impossible.[7]

Equality Now is a western socjus organization.

Julian Roberts
Julian Roberts

The frogs are fucking dead.

Nathaniel Price
Nathaniel Price

No, it wasn't.
Yes it was.

Blake Morris
Blake Morris

Yes better than now when people barely fucking post intelligent contents but Cirno is soo kwaateee.

Parker Bailey
Parker Bailey

Jesus, are you seriously saying that /jp/ was better when every thread was derailed with tripfag drama, niggy spam and endless blogposting about your piss bottles?

He is saying that

lol

Carter Gutierrez
Carter Gutierrez

Okay, I will let our audience judge again.

Jack Bell
Jack Bell

Post on another board dumb honkee american

Jonathan Flores
Jonathan Flores

I stopped going there due to how unbearably cliquish it was, and realizing how retarded some of the mods were. That and the discussion surrounding the 2016 election was complete cancer.

Christian Gomez
Christian Gomez

Yeah, that's why I go to /pol/.

/jp/ back then even went far as discussing the political discussion in Japan.

Liam Phillips
Liam Phillips

Yeah, that's why I go to /pol/.
Then fuckin go

Ian Cook
Ian Cook

Yeah, that's why I go to /pol/.
If you go to /pol/ for the discussion consider going anywhere else.

Andrew Reed
Andrew Reed

That and the discussion surrounding the 2016 election
You can say that about anywhere tbh. That election was the worst thing to happen to society since the first atom was split

Gavin Hughes
Gavin Hughes

I actually miss the NEET and piss bottle discussions.

William James
William James

And I'm sure a moral panic stemming from a violent otaku stabbing people less than a year before did nothing to get people to demand action banning immoral otaku filth

Oh and Taro is a member of the conservative LDP.

I regret insulting the jan-man all these years, you people are infinitely worse.

Lincoln Taylor
Lincoln Taylor

All because Trump won, haha.

Even one was expecting a Mitt Romney, even 4/v/.

Joshua Bennett
Joshua Bennett

And I'm sure a moral panic stemming from a violent otaku stabbing people less than a year before did nothing to get people to demand action banning immoral otaku filth
If it did, it would have happened earlier, no, it happened because a relentless socjust organization was pushing for its banning.
Oh and Taro is a member of the conservative LDP.
He wasn't Abe, and he did it because the SJW tells him to do it.
I regret insulting the jan-man all these years, you people are infinitely worse.
Fuck the jan, I'm an old /jp/sie, I'm stronger than him.

Remember athens.

Samuel Miller
Samuel Miller

The 2016 election was garbage no matter who had won.

Anthony Bennett
Anthony Bennett

All because Trump won, haha.

No, all that because of the entire election cycle

Carter Ramirez
Carter Ramirez

t. liberal.

If you're at all leftist you should know where podiums being owned and governed by a small number of unaccountable individuals leads.

Cameron Green
Cameron Green

He wasn't Abe, and he did it because the SJW tells him to do it.
lmao

Hudson Robinson
Hudson Robinson

If you're at all leftist you should know where podiums being owned and governed by a small number of unaccountable individuals leads.

Nowhere, which is exactly where the internet should fucking go.

Jason Kelly
Jason Kelly

If you enjoy posting your opinions on the internet, I don't trust you. Nobody enjoys this

Nicholas Morales
Nicholas Morales

Taro Aso was less radical than Abe, and only Rapelay was banned, because the socjus organization just focus on Rapelay.

Isaiah Jones
Isaiah Jones

Taro Aso was less radical than Abe
Doesn't matter

Aiden Cook
Aiden Cook

I remember 2012.

I'm glad 2016 was not another 2012.

Luke King
Luke King

It matters because under fucking Abe, a literal far right in neocon cloth, nothing was banned.

Juan Stewart
Juan Stewart

Maybe, but it wasn't so much because of the general obnoxiousness that usually surrounds presidential election discussions, but because it really showed me how pervasive the neoliberal bootlickers were there.

Charles Stewart
Charles Stewart

arguing over who's to blame
not just counter-organizing to stop it

Lincoln Ortiz
Lincoln Ortiz

Yeah, we are countering the socjus cancer.

Want to join us?

Levi Smith
Levi Smith

This

Jonathan Martin
Jonathan Martin

You are the socjus cancer /pol/

William Murphy
William Murphy

Don't know how much influence they had but they sound like a liberal organization to me

Carter Gray
Carter Gray

The irony is that /pol/ would not want to ban Rapelay.

Jace Gray
Jace Gray

They are a liberal radfem SJW organization.

Seen many of them in the west.

Parker Carter
Parker Carter

No shit white sharia /pol/ wants that kind of stuff.

Wyatt Bailey
Wyatt Bailey

Remember athens.
Hello sudo, are you still a fat fuck?
Nah I'm going to enjoy my life
You have to be honestly pathetic to think that you can change anything of importance by being extremely online and always mad and posting

Isaiah Cook
Isaiah Cook

I don't care.

Nathaniel Richardson
Nathaniel Richardson

Referring to censors with ideological terms when the censorship movement itself crosses partisan lines is shooting yourself in the foot and suggests your real motive is ideological mudslinging.

Idpol of every form is cancer, but that kind of rhetoric only alienates people who might otherwise support you, because their "team" supports this censorship. And also encourages you to look the other way when moral majority types (without whose tacit support the SocJus crowd would be powerless) lead the charge.

Joseph Scott
Joseph Scott

To be fair, a good portion of /a/ doesn't want /pol/yps even nowadays.
The issue is that /v/ and /pol/ crossboarders are everywhere now.
That also explains the overall decline on quality lately.

Jaxon Gomez
Jaxon Gomez

dont be retarded, nazis nowdays aren't hillbillies, they're autistic fatasses with fedoras in their basement jacking off to lauren southern in between overwatch sessions

Matthew Fisher
Matthew Fisher

Given the outrage I would even endorse if every main character in vidya for next 20 years was black just to spite retards who think culture is serious business and that they are perfectly equipped to enforce their own "dress-code" on entire industry, whether they're SJW or /pol/yps

Robert Miller
Robert Miller

There absolutely was an attempt by white nationalists to spread their ideology by Stormfront.
My claim was that they shilled like crazy, which is true. Then they spread like cancer to other boards.

Yeah, like 5 threads with less than 10 posters each, all in 2013. The fake narrative that not only you super enlightened leftists got outmaneuvered by the "dumb CIS white redneck scum", but also succeeded where high budget marketers and shills failed is laughable at best, disingenuous, dumb attempt at deceiving newfags at worst.
The best way to do this is through discussions and debates, which both entail elitism to some degree.
That's true.
/leftypol/ happens to be one of the more elitist groups of leftists since imageboards lend themselves to that type of discourse.
Disagree, compared to most leftist boards this is the LEAST elitist and most open.
Unlike gaymers and /pol/tards, weebs are actually quite technologically adept and competent at life (at least with respect to getting access to the media that they want.) They've been doing it for decades now I don't think they will stop.
Retarded lie, the vast majority of anons regardless of board are adept at getting the media they want. For instance, /pol/ is autistically good at getting information (no one has rivaled how they combed thru massive Wikileaks dumps during the election) and gaymers and their homebrew/hacking scenes are way ahead technologically of what weebs do.

David Rodriguez
David Rodriguez

The cost of posting is the effort you make by tapping fingers on buttons and moving your grey mass between ears to constuct a lazy shitpost bait that get one, at most two (you)'s.

Christopher Morgan
Christopher Morgan

Self-defense against weaponised shitposting does not equal elitism.

Brayden Wilson
Brayden Wilson

it was unironically trad hating

Wyatt Jackson
Wyatt Jackson

AM I DETAINED
AM I DETAINED

Justin Ortiz
Justin Ortiz

as a spectator i advise you to stop posting forever and to contemplate on the subject of suicide

Jeremiah Perry
Jeremiah Perry

609 replies

Ethan Johnson
Ethan Johnson

The elitism gave the boards a natural defense against weaponized shitposting. You're misunderstanding

Xavier Hughes
Xavier Hughes

entire thread full of unironic goon shills revisioning gg as invented by breitbart in 2010, pretending sjws didn't push censorship and propaganda down the throat of popculture unopposed from 2007 onward, and general apologia for rulecuck sa/reddit/fb/twitter/etc culture
even the /pol/ack crossboarders are in denial about the disinterested, antagonistic irony of old internet culture
one single post with even the tiniest factual response to op's question of what happened to the goons, touching on huge purges of right-wingers
Where did these subhumans come from? The Leftytrash/Chapo cyclicals and everyone in them probably need to be destroyed with fire.

Liam Scott
Liam Scott

pretending sjws didn't push censorship and propaganda down the throat of popculture unopposed from 2007 onward

This is bullshit though.

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