19th Congress of the Communist Party of China about to start

Gabriel Jones
Gabriel Jones

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/19th_National_Congress_of_the_Communist_Party_of_China

Opinions? What directions will they take? It is reported that they may include Xi's theories into their doctrine - which includes the goal to the "fully developed" for socialism by 2049.

All urls found in this thread:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/19th_National_Congress_of_the_Communist_Party_of_China
https://archive.fo/6a1lf
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/832671.shtml#.UrE5HvQW1HV
https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/China-to-Teach-Core-Socialist-Values-in-Schools-20170915-0022.html
https://qz.com/1089384/the-communist-app-store-chinas-endless-apps-for-tracking-organizing-and-motivating-party-members/
https://monthlyreview.org/commentary/did-mao-really-kill-millions-in-the-great-leap-forward
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/maos-great-leap-forward-killed-45-million-in-four-years-2081630.html
https://www.quora.com/How-did-Mao-manage-to-kill-78-million-people/answer/Godfree-Roberts
http://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2109278/why-xi-jinping-cares-so-much-about-ending-poverty-china-political#comments
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2017-10/17/c_136685546.htm
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-parliament-wealth/under-xi-wealth-of-chinas-uber-rich-lawmakers-grew-faster-than-economy-idUSKBN1690S2
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-imposes-266-duty-on-some-chinese-steel-imports-1456878180
http://www.smh.com.au/world/chinese-communist-party-wants-to-build-its-presence-inside-foreign-companies-20171019-gz4aff.html
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2017-10/20/c_136694592.htm
https://youtu.be/e4wbFdePb-k
Ian Clark
Ian Clark

Why did the other thread 404?

Jack Collins
Jack Collins

which includes the goal to the "fully developed" for socialism by 2049.

C-can they make it guys?

Colton Fisher
Colton Fisher

china
communist
imblying

Luke Ward
Luke Ward

Is it so unthinkable that communists can run a capitalist state while its convenient?

Camden King
Camden King

quoting George "comrade sellout" orwell

Matthew Walker
Matthew Walker

NEXT STAGE OF SOCIALISM SOON COMRADES

Aiden Lee
Aiden Lee

"fully developed" means order 66 will finally be in place for the initiation of jinping's "communist" empire.

Charles Ortiz
Charles Ortiz

2049
Not so fast, comrade. I've seen the movies and I know how this shit really ends up. China's going to export their industrial hell over to America.

Isaiah Richardson
Isaiah Richardson

in India that's called "Karma"

Levi Perry
Levi Perry

Here we call that a spook.

Logan Bailey
Logan Bailey

Daily reminder that China is opening up "Red Army" schools. Their curriculum includes detailed study of Confucianism and Chinese traditional culture.

Ryder Morgan
Ryder Morgan

Isn't Confucianism insanely reactionary?

Jaxson Lewis
Jaxson Lewis

Of course not. Centrally planned economies don't work and China's current economic success exists since they rolled most of it back. They make the big plans like this because it looks good even though there's no sensible way they could plausibly implement it. For example, just look at GDP growth. Last year it was planned to be 10%, then revised down to a "realistic" 9%, then down to just 8.5% as the year began, then 7.7% after their stock market took a huge shit in late 2015. Meanwhile the CPC has no clue what to do other than stopping people from selling their stock, which stopped the crash but left investors with an unsellable toxic asset.

The current celebration is being done out of spite for the millions of Chinese who are hurting really bad, whom Beijing ignores because they can keep their end of things stable for the time being. It's porkyism at it's worst and why anyone promoting centralized economics should be shot in the head for being the moron they are.

Lincoln Johnson
Lincoln Johnson

Lmao

Cameron Sanders
Cameron Sanders

I don't know if you're being serious or not but it is far more likely Trump crashes that all to the ground by announcing steel tariffs after his China trip next month. Which of course will net him the Rust Belt and give him a second term. He's already begun this by nuking China's attempted takeover of America's semiconductor components industries. This even assumes such a trip is possible because we might be at war with North Korea.

This is the background Xi and the CPC choose to conveniently ignore at their own peril. The world is waking up to China's embrace of the worst of capitalism, and other porkies will use it as a way to enrich themselves.

Kevin Lopez
Kevin Lopez

Centrally planned economies don't work

Justin Green
Justin Green

Yeah, People's War theory basically relies on turning people away from age old spooky ideas like Confucianism. Which is why it is so ironic, China is literally capitalists with red flags.

Gavin Ward
Gavin Ward

I don't think you know what the government did after the stock market crash.

Zachary Collins
Zachary Collins

China massively overproduced steel. It's a problem, actually. It exports 3% of the steel, maybe less, to the United States. Don't know where you are getting your commentary, but it's not a good source.

William Bailey
William Bailey

Their curriculum includes detailed study of Confucianism and Chinese traditional culture.
It's the curriculum. It doesn't mean it's indoctrinated. When you study medieval history at uni, does that mean they want to promote feudalism?

China bolsters lessons in Marxism:
https://archive.fo/6a1lf

China educates journalists in Marxism:
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/832671.shtml#.UrE5HvQW1HV

China teaches socialist values in school:
https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/China-to-Teach-Core-Socialist-Values-in-Schools-20170915-0022.html

BTFO

Colton Ortiz
Colton Ortiz

Meant for

Luis Myers
Luis Myers

At least not the CPC's attempt at it. Obviously there was Mao (who killed over 60 million through his famines and purges) but in more recent times their attempt to apply communist things onto their markets only encourages the worst traits of capitalism. For example, applying a quota system to the amount of loans their banks are supposed to make which encourages reckless financial wizardry (like using meme coins which the CPC recently banned) as banks then have to create new ways of generating capital that doesn't break other CPC financial policies. A similar situation exists in the United States with the recent Wells Fargo quota scandal.

The same applies to their attempt to take over various markets by price dumping them (cement, steel, solar panels) which is a classic capitalist move and led to all the other capitalists hitting them with punitive tariffs. When this didn't work it left Beijing with massive industrial surpluses that make new production uneconomical unless they bury it in pits - a classic communist move.

Tyler Reed
Tyler Reed

The goal is DEcentralized planing.

Brody Taylor
Brody Taylor

Mao (who killed over 60 million through his famines and purges)
Stopped reading there. Go propagate your PragerU talking points somewhere else.

Jayden Walker
Jayden Walker

3% is a lot when it's able to outcompete American firms on price. Additionally the whole point of price dumping is so that they can grow that 3% into a larger number.

Gabriel Barnes
Gabriel Barnes

https://qz.com/1089384/the-communist-app-store-chinas-endless-apps-for-tracking-organizing-and-motivating-party-members/

Does anybody speak Mandarin? I'd really like to have a look at these CPC apps lmao

Xavier Collins
Xavier Collins

Mao is not a shining example of Communism given how he ruined his country so bad his replacements got very friendly with Reagan & friends. This friendship later led to the total destruction of communism everywhere else except within North Korea and Vietnam. Don't defend shitty leaders who harm their ideology.

Evan Harris
Evan Harris

China has steadily expanded its "parallel" international financial system and its network of bilateral trade agreements. Why do you think they are being punished with tariffs by others? It's not what's actually happening.

Leo Gomez
Leo Gomez

What? 3% is 3%.

Nathaniel Perez
Nathaniel Perez

If China's financial system was so good they'd have made their own credit card/currency and subsidized payment terminals at American retail brands. This is exactly what Google and Apple did with their respective "wallet" systems (with mixed success). They didn't because they aren't that smart.

Isaac Diaz
Isaac Diaz

ruined his country
China was one of the poorest countries in the world, when Mao took over with Shanghai having about half of the entire population being drug addicts. There was hardly anything to ruin there. Life expectancy skyrocketed under Mao. Just a question, do you ever read pro-communist stuff? Because you can't be this dumb to think that Mao killed 60 million people. That's - as I said - PragerU tier.

Jackson Thompson
Jackson Thompson

Do you think China was rich before the communists took over or something. It's probably never going to return to the poverty that was forced into it by imperialism again, and there is one group of people to thank for that.

Jeremiah Roberts
Jeremiah Roberts

Of course not. Centrally planned economies don't work
Planning under Mao was decentralized.

Thomas James
Thomas James

The US uses about 100,000,000 metric tons of steel per year, China produces about 800,000,000 tons per year. 3% of China's market is (very roughly) a quarter of America's market. This is the largest of any single county.

Camden Rivera
Camden Rivera

China's yuan is more important than ever, it has massive gold reserves which it has established to allow yuan/gold backed exchange deals to overcome skepticism of its currency (in favor of usd). It's been able to get yuan-backed oil contracts. The economy has made huge strides towards being cashless. What are you talking about,

Noah Cook
Noah Cook

Yes but do what? It's 3% of China's exports. So it could be 100% of the American market. It could be 1%. The importance is what difference it makes to China.

Chase Brown
Chase Brown

I live around chinks who had to escape him, so yes I fully believe that he killed 60 million. And he didn't improve anything in China other than cause a massive famine (the scale of which not even the Imperial Japanese army could do) in the late 50s. He did develop nuclear weapons, but this was largely to keep the US out of his joint. He's not a good communist. All of his USSR and Eastern Block contemporaries were far better in that regard.

The economy has made huge strides towards being cashless.

Yes by either using credit cards issued by American-based Visa or using Google Wallet issued by American-based Alphabet. How many people use Chinese owned banks in their daily life? Very few outside of China.

Robert Long
Robert Long

1 USD is about 7 Yuans, that's why America is so important. Every ton of steel sold to an American buyer is worth seven times an equivalent ton of steel sold to a Chinese buyer. Which is why they tried price dumping the US market.

Isaiah Bennett
Isaiah Bennett

Centrally planned economies don't work

Liam Gray
Liam Gray

Communism is inherently Anarchist.

Eli Gray
Eli Gray

anarchism can't be centrally planned

It's the 21st century. We can centrally plan things without massive state bureaucracy.

Christopher Parker
Christopher Parker

I live around chinks who had to escape him, so yes I fully believe that he killed 60 million
So you live arround the sons of Chinese land owners who tell you that Mao killed 100 gorillion. That's as believable as North Korean defectors who claim that everybody in the DPRK has to wear the haricut of Kim Jong Un. Luckily we have actual data:
https://monthlyreview.org/commentary/did-mao-really-kill-millions-in-the-great-leap-forward
And he didn't improve anything in China other than cause a massive famine
You know, except rising life expectancy, liquidating illiteracy, liberated women, industrialized the country, defeated unemployment, etc.

Michael Martin
Michael Martin

Central planning actually reduces bureaucracy. Bureacracy is only an issue once you allow enterprises to produce for profit.

Jace Bennett
Jace Bennett

Who the fuck is this anti communist shit head? put the Nazi flag on

Luke Cook
Luke Cook

If I had to put money on which country could have a successful socialist revolution by 2050 and usher in global communism, it would be China.

All statistical models indicate that they will be the most advanced economy on Earth in just a decade or two. This, combined with the fact that large sections of their economic and political spheres are already socialized, makes them a very promising, fertile ground for future communist activity.

Sebastian White
Sebastian White

does that mean they want to promote feudalism?
implying that the way they teach medieval history in most schools isn't just modern ideals of authoritarianism plastered on top of dudes with knight outfits and dudes with crosses
It is undeniable that Xi is trying to morph the national ideology and philosophy of China into a more nationalistic and traditional mindset instead of Maoism.

Alexander Watson
Alexander Watson

However, there seems to be no way of independently, authenticating these figures due to the great mystery about how they were gathered and preserved for twenty years before being released to the general public.

mfw this is your article's only line of defense

Meanwhile, a guy from HK gained access to the official archives and his research did indeed find the millions.

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/maos-great-leap-forward-killed-45-million-in-four-years-2081630.html

now kys tankie scum

Hudson Rodriguez
Hudson Rodriguez

That's a very weird article. It doesn't give any statistics or data about the claims that it makes. Not only that, it leads very fishy anecdotal evidence into the field. Pic related are the actual death rates published by Deng (which is the same source your Dikötter uses in his book) - what this hack intentionally doesn't show, are the birth rates! We can clearly see that the reason there is a seemingly relevant slow in population growth in '60 and '61, this doesn't conclude that Mao killed 15 millions as claimed by Dikötter, but rather that people didn't gave birth to enough children, as it was a time of turmoil. Declining birth rates during the Great Leap Forward are the reason for the 100 gorillion meme, not actual deaths. The whole thing was a ruse and a lie to begin with and you are probably from /pol/ anyway.

Additional reading:
https://www.quora.com/How-did-Mao-manage-to-kill-78-million-people/answer/Godfree-Roberts

Nathaniel Wood
Nathaniel Wood

Mind you, I'm assuming these numbers are correct, so I'm implying that they are based on good faith. There is good reason to question them as well, as the other article shows.

In any case, Dükitter argues so blatantly dishonest that he might as be the Chinese Robert Conquest. That users on a supposedly communist board reurgitate anti-communist bullshit all the fucking time is simply depressing.

William Martinez
William Martinez

Did you not notice that the total population in the chart you gave me just up and dropped by 10 million starting from 1960 and then dropped an additional 5 in 1961 coupled with a "baby boom" in 1962 symptomatic of recovery from famine?

Holy shit how delusional are you? Most tankies just claim that less people died than is actually stated, they don't outright deny that the famine happened.

Read a fucking book

Thomas Myers
Thomas Myers

Out of a population you can probably expect 5-10% to die each year of old age. So thats 30-60 million deaths, combined that with people being smart and not having children when theres no food means you cannot say the drop of 15 million is majority attributable to famine.

Luke Jenkins
Luke Jenkins

Fucking brainlet the deaths from old age are already accounted for since you can determine the average death rate from the years preceding the famine and see that they are far lower and were on a downward trend until they suddenly spiked up again.

Evan Brooks
Evan Brooks

Has anyone read about China's campaign to eradicate their definition of rural poverty (a relatively low line) by 2021? An interesting and very ambitious program, though not without flaws.

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2109278/why-xi-jinping-cares-so-much-about-ending-poverty-china-political#comments

Grayson Thomas
Grayson Thomas

No need to get defensive it's not your family dying. Even if you believe these stats for death rate, the highest count you get for 59-61 is around 10 mil (rounding up). So even the 30 mil Chinese figure is an over estimate.

Noah Lee
Noah Lee

Did you not notice that the total population in the chart you gave me just up and dropped by 10 million starting from 1960 and then dropped
Are you having a seizure? Did you actually read my post?
Most tankies just claim that less people died than is actually stated, they don't outright deny that the famine happened
I never said there was no famine. After all, we see a birthrate decline. I do claim though that the numbers you pulled out of your ass have as much historical validity as Lord of the Rings. Americans are so fucking gullible, believing everything the media tells them.

implying that the way they teach medieval history in most schools isn't just modern ideals of authoritarianism plastered on top of dudes with knight outfits and dudes with crosses
That's not true at all. Historical bias tought in school for polticial reasons usually starts with the beginning of the 19th century.

Easton Young
Easton Young

Centrally planned economies don't work

Lucas Turner
Lucas Turner

high key some of the lowest quality posting I've seen in a while

Xavier Nelson
Xavier Nelson

ONE CAN ONLY HOPE
DENG WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG

Leo Ward
Leo Ward

I believe Cockshott also says his system can work in a decentralized and distributed manner.

Carson Barnes
Carson Barnes

Given how hard the PRC has been pushing not only Chinese nationalism, but Chinese history and Confucianism.
One has to wonder whether the 'Communist' masquerade will still be useful by then.

I think there is a distinct possibility that some of the membership of the CC are 'priming the pump' for the emergence of another Dynasty.

Centrally planned economies don't work
Get a load of this faggot.

Zachary Martin
Zachary Martin

modern china is shit because the communist party members are porkies
but mao is also shit because he personally killed 60 billion chinese kulaks

Levi Watson
Levi Watson

hmmm.. it's almost as of all forms of government are trash..

makes you think………..

Luis Howard
Luis Howard

Anybody care to wager which capitalist policies they'll enact in the name of """"socialism"""" with Chinese characteristics?

Jace Ross
Jace Ross

As much as I want to be optimistic I can't say I am.
On the economic front, Xi said China would relax market access for foreign investment, expand access to its services sector and deepen market-oriented reform of its exchange rate and financial system, while at the same time strengthening state firms, he said.
Maybe he'll spring a trap or some shit but as for now not much hope.

William Nguyen
William Nguyen

Chinese President Xi Jinping touts successes of 'socialism' at Communist Party Congress

Chinese President Xi Jinping on Wednesday stressed the benefits of "socialism with Chinese characteristics" at the beginning of the Communist Party's once-every-five-year Party Congress.

The president told the assembled members of the party that his nation's prospects are bright, but it faces severe challenges. He proceeded to lay out his vision for a socialist future.

"We will unite the Chinese people of all ethnic groups and lead them to a decisive victory in building a moderately prosperous society in all respects and in the drive to secure the success of socialism with Chinese characteristics for a new era," he said, according to a translation from China Daily.

Xi touted the success of China in recent years during the address, including what he characterized as overwhelming momentum for his anti-corruption campaign.

Under Xi, Beijing has waged a relentless fight against deep-rooted graft since assuming power five years ago, with more than one million officials punished and dozens of former senior officials jailed.

The president also claimed during his address that China will let the market play a decisive role in resource allocation in the economy. Beijing has called for a greater role for market forces in the economy in order to improve efficiency and develop a more sustainable growth model, but some have been skeptical of its progress on that front.

On the economic policy front, Xi also said Beijing will push mergers and acquisitions for state-owned assets, it will expand market access for the services sector, and it will deepen financial reform. He also said the country will deepen its market-oriented reform of exchange and interest rates.

China, Xi said, will continue to open up to the world, including relaxing market access for foreign investment.

The president also highlighted Beijing's firm opposition to Taiwan independence over the last five years.

The full title of Xi's working report that he presented Wednesday is "Secure a Decisive Victory in Building a Moderately Prosperous Society in All Respects and Strive for the Great Success of Socialism with Chinese Characteristics for a New Era."

Kevin Ramirez
Kevin Ramirez

apply communist things onto their markets
This is literally impossible by definition.

Jaxson Taylor
Jaxson Taylor

What China has done is truely phenomenal. 3/4 of global poverty reduction in the last 50 years. Over 700 million people and millions more every year. It's amazing honestly, one of the greatest achievements ever. I don't think a country like the US, where poverty is increasing and mobility has stalled and started to slip into decline, really can get that there is a place where these social transformations are happening. It would been easy for it not to have.

Connor Rivera
Connor Rivera

It is reported that they may include Xi's theories into their doctrine
Isn't that what they do every fucking time, add even more nonsense to their patchwork?

Logan Brooks
Logan Brooks

Even in the US, people can tell which way the wind is blowing.

Brandon Rogers
Brandon Rogers

We had some burger on here just a few hours ago that was still under the impression the USA had the world wrapped around its finger.

Henry Edwards
Henry Edwards

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2017-10/17/c_136685546.htm

Enlightened Chinese democracy puts the West in the shade

BEIJING, Oct. 17 (Xinhua) – As crises and chaos swamp Western liberal democracy, it may be instructive to examine the "Chinese democracy" and ask how the system which sets the current standards for development and progress measures up. The 19th National Congress of the Communist Party of China (CPC) is a good chance to analyze the unique socialist organization from historical and global perspectives.

Every five years CPC delegates meet to draw up the strategy for both Party and country in the lustrum to come. This year, the primary objective is "Xiaokang," the first centenary goal. A mere three years into the future, the establishment of a moderately prosperous society in 2020 will be the culmination of 100 years of work by the CPC. The second century goal to commemorate the founding of the People's Republic of China in 1949 will see the fulfillment of the Chinese Dream of national rejuvenation.

(…)

Unlike competitive, confrontational Western politics, the CPC and non-Communist parties cooperate with each other, working together for the advancement of socialism and striving to improve the people's standard of living. The relationship maintains political stability and social harmony and ensures efficient policy making and implementation.

(…)

Institutionalized consultative democracy is important in China, whose basic political systems also include the people's congresses and self-governance at the grassroots level such as village committees.

The Chinese system leads to social unity rather than the divisions which come as an unavoidable consequence of the adversarial nature of Western democracy today. Endless political backbiting, bickering and policy reversals, which make the hallmarks of liberal democracy, have retarded economic and social progress and ignored the interests of most citizens.

(…)

As parties in the West increasingly represent special interest groups and social strata, capitalist democracy becomes more oligarchic in nature. The cracks are beginning to show, with many eccentric or unexpected results in recent plebiscites.

Sebastian Taylor
Sebastian Taylor

Mao Zedong Thought
Deng Xiaoping Theory
Three Represents
Scientific Outlook on Development
New one:
Thought on Socialism with Chinese Characteristics in a new era

My god the constitutional theory names are getting long

Julian Kelly
Julian Kelly

wasn't the original plan to reach socialism by 2040?

Charles Sanchez
Charles Sanchez

They will start work on reducing capitalism by 2020.

Jiang Zemin said even getting past the primary stage of socialism would take 100 years or more but it looks like he was wrong.

Chase Smith
Chase Smith

Those words tend to be more concise in Chinese, for example "Scientific Outlook on Development" is much shorter "Kēxué Fāzhǎn Guān"

Brandon Wilson
Brandon Wilson

decentralization is capitalism
t. hayek

Ethan Carter
Ethan Carter

The new one is long in chinese as well

Owen Scott
Owen Scott

How is that supposed to work anyways? I mean, they could for example pass a bill abolishing intellectual property as one of the "steps" of going past commodity production, but frankly I can't see this happening without causing a planet-wide shitstorm.

Julian Young
Julian Young

They won't do it, the chinese state serves capitalist interests. Revisionism is a feature, not a bug of state "socialism".

Jackson Walker
Jackson Walker

It is very unlikely they would do it like that. It is more likely they will slowly reduce free market policies, increase union power and control the currency.

Justin Wilson
Justin Wilson

Post war keynesianism

John Lee
John Lee

China has entered a "new era" where it should "take centre stage in the world", President Xi Jinping says.

The country's rapid progress under "socialism with Chinese characteristics" shows there is "a new choice for other countries", he told the Communist Party congress.

Listing China's recent achievements in his three-hour speech, Mr Xi said that "socialism with Chinese characteristics in this new era" meant China had now "become a great power in the world", and had played "an important role in the history of humankind".

The Chinese model of growth under Communist rule was "flourishing", he said, and had given "a new choice" to other developing countries.

"It is time for us to take centre stage in the world and to make a greater contribution to humankind," he added.

Since Mr Xi took power in 2012, China's economy has continued to grow rapidly. But correspondents say the country has also become more authoritarian, with increasing censorship and arrests of lawyers and activists.

Cameron Martinez
Cameron Martinez

Last two president didnt have the honor. Last one to do this was Deng Xiaoping.

Chase Clark
Chase Clark

It would probably start with nationalizing all foreign assets in China.

Sebastian Ward
Sebastian Ward


1 USD is about 7 Yuans, that's why America is so important. Every ton of steel sold to an American buyer is worth seven times an equivalent ton of steel sold to a Chinese buyer.

this is why I killed Rosa

Charles Fisher
Charles Fisher

Centrally planned economies don't work
Read Cockshot

Cooper Scott
Cooper Scott

fully developed" for socialism by 2049.
so are all of guys finally going to admit that the Deng Geng was right all along?

Luke Howard
Luke Howard

Ive gotten a fuckton of mixed messages on the topic of what Xi Believes in and his views on how chinese socialism should function
is he pro-"""reform""" or Anti-"""reform"""?

Michael Jones
Michael Jones

Honest question asked in good faith. Are we just supposed to believe that China will just stop being capitalist as it barrels toward being a global hegemonic power to replace the USA and just won't be an imperialist power like the US or the UK before it? Is there any evidence whatsoever that "socialism with Chinese characters" isn't just ideological and political lip service given by politicians and is an actual goal of the contemporary CCP? I would like to see the proofs tbh.

Brandon Powell
Brandon Powell

there is none

Dylan Mitchell
Dylan Mitchell

You can deduct this from the fact that capital doesn't actually dominate the polticial process in China, whereas in the West it clearly does. Billionaires in China are literally on a hit list and often get arrested or even killed. Capitalism really does exist only in the Special Economic Zones but a huge chunk of the Chinese population are living outside of them where land and means of production are still somewhat publicly owned. Land can't be bought in China and all investors and capitalists have their rent contract with the state expiring by 2050. Private companies often have the state as the biggest shareholder. State enterprises still run very successfully, but even if they didn't, they are kept for development despite a potential lack of profitability. Chinas policies are often based on scientific development, they put people first, such as the reduction of poverty, providing of living space and construction environmental friendly sustainable towns.

pdf related, State Department admits that China isn't really a market economy

Xavier White
Xavier White

nah, Lenin did it just fine himself.

Benjamin Ortiz
Benjamin Ortiz

Reminder the modern CPC is unironically sympathetic to Chiang Kai Shek

James Lee
James Lee

implying the top party members aren't all bourgeois

Evan Nguyen
Evan Nguyen

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-parliament-wealth/under-xi-wealth-of-chinas-uber-rich-lawmakers-grew-faster-than-economy-idUSKBN1690S2
SHANGHAI (Reuters) - The fortunes of the richest 100 members of China’s parliament and its advisory body - all dollar billionaires - grew about 64 percent in the four years since Xi Jinping rose to power, according to data from an organization tracking wealth in China
Xi has overseen a crackdown on corruption and decadence, and made the fight against poverty a top priority after becoming president in 2013.
Since then, however, the wealth of the upper crust in the National People’s Congress (NPC) and the Chinese People’s Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC), tracked by the Shanghai-based Hurun Report, has grown faster than the wider economy, the stock market, home prices and wages.

Adam Torres
Adam Torres

How does that contradict anything I wrote?

Gabriel James
Gabriel James

Xi has branded himself as a reformist but has mainly focused on his anti corruption campaing to get rid of his critics in the party. People are hoping that the next five years will be about economic reform and not political power struggle.

Xavier Garcia
Xavier Garcia

which includes the goal to the "fully developed" for socialism by 2049

More like fully developed for Blade Runner 2049 by 2049

Hahahaha

Bentley Bailey
Bentley Bailey

Donald DRUMPF
Steel tariffs

AHAHAHAHAHAAHA

A) Not going to happen
B) Even if it did happen, would still not do anything to displace China's manufacturing dominance over Amerikkka

10/10 delusional satankiddie

Jack Thomas
Jack Thomas

it already happened
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-imposes-266-duty-on-some-chinese-steel-imports-1456878180

Mason Butler
Mason Butler

March 1st 2016

That was back when king nigger was president. You do have a point though if someone as neoliberal as Obummer did this then chances are high for Trump to do it too. Oh well point B still stands.

Christian James
Christian James

and that was under Obama, imagine what Trump can do, think… many times stronger

Robert Walker
Robert Walker

http://www.smh.com.au/world/chinese-communist-party-wants-to-build-its-presence-inside-foreign-companies-20171019-gz4aff.html

China will press to have a Communist party branch in place inside all foreign companies and joint ventures as part of its "new era" of Chinese socialism.

Vice minister of the party's organisation department, Qi Yu, says it is "a priority" to build the communist party within all companies, because the private sector employs 140 million working class Chinese.

The new push for more party involvement in foreign companies is part of Chinese president Xi Jinping's ideological push for a wave of "party building" to accompany a "new era" of Chinese socialism.

William Gonzalez
William Gonzalez

Central to Xi's declaration that socialism with Chinese characteristics has entered a new era, was his statement that the "principal contradiction" facing Chinese society, a maxim that has stood for 36 years, has changed. It is a shift that "affects the whole landscape."

The "principal contradiction" is a term most Chinese are familiar with from grade school, but only a tiny number of foreigners, experts in sinicized Marxism will know this seemingly obscure piece of political jargon.

Marxists interpret the world through dialectical materialism. Contradictions – or "dynamic opposing forces" – are omnipresent in society and drive social change. The "principal contradiction" is what defines a society. By identifying and solving it, society develops peacefully. Left unsolved, it can lead to chaos and eventually, as Marx predicted, to revolution.

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Since coming to power in 1949, the CPC has identified the principal contradiction, and, as the times changed and contradictions changed, crafted new policies in response.

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Xi does not mince his words. China, he said, will remain in the primary stage of socialism for a very long time. China's international status as a developing country has not changed.

His two-stage development strategy spans 30 years, with the objective of making China a "great modern socialist country" set for the middle of the 21st century.

Only a prosperous, strong, democratic, culturally advanced, harmonious, beautiful China will be ready to cross the threshold into the next stage of socialism.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2017-10/20/c_136694592.htm

So? What do you say to that, Holla Forums?
<inb4 hurrdurr primary contradiction
Xi listened to the teachings of chairman Unruhe

Jackson King
Jackson King

lol sure, it will be obongo with chines characteristics mark my words

Charles Gutierrez
Charles Gutierrez

Parts of China already refuse to enforce IP laws. That alone is fairly anticapitalist

https://youtu.be/e4wbFdePb-k

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