Convince me why you are right and /pol/ is wrong

Hudson Hughes
Hudson Hughes

Convince me why you are right and /pol/ is wrong

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https://www.marxists.org/archive/bukharin/works/1920/abc/03.htm
Jordan Brooks
Jordan Brooks

Reversal: Why would you believe we are wrong and /pol/ is right?

Nolan Allen
Nolan Allen

Because Trump is a nigger baby lover.

Jaxon Parker
Jaxon Parker

Genius response. Well played sir, you are a gentleman and a scholar. Upvoted.

Daniel Morgan
Daniel Morgan

Nazis simply want to subvert and control the current system to their means.

We want to destroy it and rebuilt from the ashes.

Michael Gutierrez
Michael Gutierrez

You didn't answer my question, nigger faggot.

Levi Martinez
Levi Martinez

Oh I'm sorry here is the real reason op.

Levi Gray
Levi Gray

implying I'm OP
implying it's not incredibly obvious he's a /pol/ lurker at minimum
implying you're not a fucking spastic for every post you've made in this thread

Angel Taylor
Angel Taylor

look at these graphs

Sebastian Myers
Sebastian Myers

Sorry mods I posted this multiple times by accident pls don't delete this one

Liam Murphy
Liam Murphy

I'm one hundred percent for antifa shooting liberal democracy

Sebastian Barnes
Sebastian Barnes

Yep, this is actually what feminism is about. Kill all the men.

Anthony Gray
Anthony Gray

just pretending to be retarded
ebin trole

Jaxson Price
Jaxson Price

no, feminism is about the person wearing the boot having a vagina instead of a dick

Luke Lewis
Luke Lewis

Faggot

Oliver Gutierrez
Oliver Gutierrez

Capitalism will grind your bones into dust in an ethnostate anyways.

Jose Collins
Jose Collins

Plus the logistics of creating such a thing are near impossible.

Colton Robinson
Colton Robinson

BECAUSE MY FEELING SAY SO YOU TRANSPHOBIC sinner HOW DARE YOU QUESTION US YOU PROBABLY VOTED FOR DRUMF TOO I'M STILL WITH HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jacob Smith
Jacob Smith

Because under gynocracy aka socialism, THIS will become the norm! Don't you want to empower wymyn too?
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Christian Smith
Christian Smith

this is what /pol/ actually thinks we're like
lol

Nolan Gomez
Nolan Gomez

Lose your virginity, everyone else finds it perfectly easy to do so.

Cameron Clark
Cameron Clark

do you take pcp before trolling or something? where'd you even get any of this

Owen Peterson
Owen Peterson

but they can't until there's an ethnostate because all of the other races are in a conspiracy to make white men beta cucks

Nicholas Mitchell
Nicholas Mitchell

Stop denying the truth normie. Take the blackpill you so dearly desire.

https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=168948903

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Nathan Price
Nathan Price

Convince me why you are right
Right about what? Also, we're NOT right.
we're left :^)
and /pol/ is wrong
wrong about what? You need to be more specific.

Ethan Wood
Ethan Wood

/pol/ thinks they are going to change the current system, when their ideology does nothing but enforce the system even more, plus bonus ethnic policies.

Colton Smith
Colton Smith

/pol/ wants an ethnostate and to potentially genocide other races - but fail to see they are what they accuse the jews of being.

Holla Forums wants a communal direct democracy and to potentially genocide porkies - but fail to see they are really just advocating switching boots from one form of statism to the next.

Both spend 90% of their time calling eachother faggots and fedora tipping. Sometimes it's funny.

Robert Baker
Robert Baker

if you really had a problem with hypothetical boots you wouldn't be ignoring the boot you're licking right now

Easton Reyes
Easton Reyes

At the end of the day they are both chantards who believe they can change the world from mom's basement or sisters basement if you are leftypol.

SAD!

Ian Bennett
Ian Bennett

communism
state

Bentley Rodriguez
Bentley Rodriguez

a democratic majority physically coercing a minority against their will isn't a state

Jace Campbell
Jace Campbell

classless
state
pick 1

Carter Collins
Carter Collins

If someone physically forcing you in to an economic and political system because you're in a democratic minority isn't authoritarianism and isn't a state, what exactly do you think a state is?

Lucas Edwards
Lucas Edwards

communism
state
pick 1

Juan Price
Juan Price

Nigga every society is based on physical coercion otherwise it would fall the fuck apart

Nathan Long
Nathan Long

things would fall apart if you don't do what we tell you
democracy is a spook fam

Grayson Roberts
Grayson Roberts

Yes, it's much better to have a minority coercing the majority against their will

Reminder that your own stupid revolution will be just as "authoritarian".

Have these gentlemen ever seen a revolution? A revolution is certainly the most authoritarian thing there is; it is the act whereby one part of the population imposes its will upon the other part by means of rifles, bayonets and cannon — authoritarian means, if such there be at all; and if the victorious party does not want to have fought in vain, it must maintain this rule by means of the terror which its arms inspire in the reactionists. Would the Paris Commune have lasted a single day if it had not made use of this authority of the armed people against the bourgeois? Should we not, on the contrary, reproach it for not having used it freely enough?

Therefore, either one of two things: either the anti-authoritarians don't know what they're talking about, in which case they are creating nothing but confusion; or they do know, and in that case they are betraying the movement of the proletariat. In either case they serve the reaction.
t. Engels

Henry James
Henry James

Notice how I didn't say democracy and I just said every society

Easton Adams
Easton Adams

/pol/ wants an ethnostate and to potentially genocide other races
literally impossible

/leftypol/ wants a communal direct democracy and to potentially genocide porkies
literally inevitable

Oliver Phillips
Oliver Phillips

someone's getting oppressed, it might as well be the minority
Any system that strives to serve the "greater good" will only serve a plurality, at the expense of the humanity of the whole. The irony of the communist, is they see capitalism as the root failure of modern civilization, not authoritarianism. They seek to replace bosses and rulers with mobs, but fail to see they have merely reconfigured the same components to suit the same ends using the same means, but with more people involved.

Bentley Parker
Bentley Parker

You seem to awfully a big moral fag for someone using an anarcho nihilist flag

Joshua Lewis
Joshua Lewis

That's just a black flag with lighting effects.

Samuel White
Samuel White

read, faggot

https://www.marxists.org/archive/bukharin/works/1920/abc/03.htm

Jacob Taylor
Jacob Taylor

The only "minority" that gets oppressed under the DotP is the bourgeoisie. And no one is oppressed under communism, because bourgeois society has disappeared by that stage in development.

If you want to change society, you have to use "authoritarian" means. That includes you. And in every society, not everyone is going to get what they want all of the time, including whatever utopia you have dreamed up.

Samuel Jackson
Samuel Jackson

one form of statism
implying there are no anarchists on this board

Hunter Brooks
Hunter Brooks

Communists redefine the state to have a different meaning than anarchists. Communism is anti-capitalist and thus defines the state in terms of maintaining the class structure; anarchy is anti-authoritarian and thus defines the state in terms of the use of coercive force against others

Jayden Bailey
Jayden Bailey

freedom for working people
free
as long as you work

Austin Cook
Austin Cook

implying we aren't condemned to wage slavery under capitalism.

Aaron Clark
Aaron Clark

only communism and capitalism exist

Hunter Ross
Hunter Ross

Anarchism is also anti-capitalist you dingus, considering it too is authoritarian.

Carter Cook
Carter Cook

Are you an ancap or some kind of post-left faggot?

Because proles are definitely made to work under capitalism.

Justin Moore
Justin Moore

I'm a post-left faggot

Jaxon Turner
Jaxon Turner

Yeah, basically. Unless you're suggesting a return to feudalism.

Ethan Watson
Ethan Watson

you're a disgrace to the flag, m8.

Anthony Ross
Anthony Ross

you're a fucking authoritarian anarchist m8

Kayden Jones
Kayden Jones

So, basically, your "theory" is
That's, like, authoritarian, man lol rules suck, stop telling me what to do Mom ;_;
I understand you so much better now.

Connor Cox
Connor Cox

So out of curiosity how would your society work without going into chaos and allowing just anybody to use, but it's okay because it's not systematic?

Bentley Carter
Bentley Carter

Calling other people authoritarian is, like, so authoritarian, man.

Jeremiah Anderson
Jeremiah Anderson

I don't have a theory. If anyone had a political and economic theory that worked, we wouldn't be debating it. I'm just clarifying that anarchism, in my understanding, is anti-authoritarian and communism is not. Taking things to their logical ends, I don't feel comfortable endorsing one form of authoritarianism over the other.

Nathaniel Flores
Nathaniel Flores

black pill
I thought /pol/ hated nihilism and deemed it degenerate though? Is this an incel thing?

David Gonzalez
David Gonzalez

Places full of those can be fun tho.

Bentley Kelly
Bentley Kelly

Go home, Rand.

Colton Davis
Colton Davis

It's user you commie scum.

Benjamin Rodriguez
Benjamin Rodriguez

So basically you're an idealist who doesn't know how politics work. Good to know!

Jordan Jones
Jordan Jones

authoritarian anarchist
what did he mean by this?

Ethan Martin
Ethan Martin

Says a idealist who doesn't know how politics work

Matthew Long
Matthew Long

I don't have a theory.
I think that was obvious.

If anyone had a political and economic theory that worked, we wouldn't be debating it.
Oh, you think if one theory is "correct" it everyone automatically agrees with it and its instantly implemented all over the world? How's that liberal idealism going for you?

I'm just clarifying that anarchism, in my understanding, is anti-authoritarian and communism is not. Taking things to their logical ends, I don't feel comfortable endorsing one form of authoritarianism over the other.
It's funny how a person who admits he doesn't have any theory wants to lecture anyone else on their beliefs. Especially when the people here have actually done their homework and read theory.

Andrew Ortiz
Andrew Ortiz

Mad Max villians.

Adam Garcia
Adam Garcia

because /pol/s variant of nationalism does not take into account/ignores or offers no solutions regarding historical materialism

Robert Murphy
Robert Murphy

I don't know what idealism is
Most of us are materialists, user.

Cooper Cooper
Cooper Cooper

Nationalism has nothing in regards to historical materialism because nationalism has nothing to do with reality.

Landon Garcia
Landon Garcia

How do I get a flag?

Nicholas Wright
Nicholas Wright

Hmmm….. an anarchist faggot is going on about muh force and this meme gets posted here ass well as this thread with the classical liberal… that's a really weird coincidence…. It's almost like they're the same person right?

Isaiah Wilson
Isaiah Wilson

I really wish I was the smart handsome chap who made this thread.

Dylan Powell
Dylan Powell

Click "show post options & limits" under the comment box.

Click on the drop-down box under "flag" and pick the flag of your choosing.

Jack Perez
Jack Perez

Thanks.

Wyatt Fisher
Wyatt Fisher

people don't progressively adopt different political and economic systems because they're superior to the previous ones
what is the Hegelian dialectic?
you have to adhere to 19th century ideology to have an opinion on how people should treat each other

Camden Hughes
Camden Hughes

people don't progressively adopt different political and economic systems because they're superior to the previous ones
Oooh. You're getting close.

Now, what do you think is the force behind what makes people adopt new systems?

what is the Hegelian dialectic?
Something you clearly don't understand and was made irrelevant by historical and dialectical materialism.

you have to adhere to 19th century ideology to have an opinion on how people should treat each other
I love how you say this immediately after citing the Hegelian dialectic.

Easton Edwards
Easton Edwards

I don't agree with Hegel's dialectic, I was pointing out the irony in your rejection of it considering your flag

Jonathan Moore
Jonathan Moore

I actually love that picture.
But that doesn't make any sense, if colectivists get the bullet too, it means someone other than collectivists is getting shot, and since "collectivism" is a boogeyman rather than a philosophy that anyone adheres to and only exists in dichotomy to individualism you're implying some individualists are getting shot.

Ethan Taylor
Ethan Taylor

You might like Hegel, he was almost as big an idealist as you. His thoughts were a bit more refined, though.

Josiah Powell
Josiah Powell

Jesus christ could you be more insufferably pedantic? Go tip your fedora somewhere else.

Elijah Reed
Elijah Reed

It's a parody of the antifa saying.

Aaron Perry
Aaron Perry

anyone who isn't a no-theory brainlet is a fedora tipping pedant
Wew there lad. I've only read a handful of books, I'm no academic.

All I'm saying is that you ought to at least read about the shit you're attempting to criticize before coming on here trying to criticize our ideology with these liberal-tier platitudes.

Connor Garcia
Connor Garcia

I'm not a fan of Antifa, so no.

David James
David James

There's nothing there that implies that was antifa.

Colton Jackson
Colton Jackson

That was at a Berkeley riot. You know, the place antifa went, and destroyed businesses.

Xavier Parker
Xavier Parker

That was at a Berkeley riot. You know, the place antifa went
I see. Though i think it's worth pointing out that antifa isn't an actual organization so much as a common banner.

and destroyed businesses.
A commendable initiative.

Joshua Reyes
Joshua Reyes

antifa is not know for condemning liberals or using the sickle and hammer. could have been an unrelated communist
destroyed businesses
good

John Watson
John Watson

Hurting peoples lively hood.

Jackson Taylor
Jackson Taylor

Hurting peoples lively hood is good

Benjamin Allen
Benjamin Allen

destroyed businesses
you say that like it's a bad thing. remind us, why the fuck are you here again?

Sebastian Powell
Sebastian Powell

To talk to extremists. I also talk to the Nazis on pol.

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