Does socialism have anything to say on the matter of suicide?

Landon Mitchell
Landon Mitchell

Does socialism have anything to say on the matter of suicide?

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Logan Martinez
Logan Martinez

Not really, although I suspect that most socialists probably think that suicide is bad (or at the very least think a society that drives people to suicide is bad).

Jacob Sanders
Jacob Sanders

use your brain before making posts please, socialism is not some kind of ethical system

Owen Sanders
Owen Sanders

https://www.marxistsfr.org/archive//marx/works/1845/09/suicide.htm

Matthew Jenkins
Matthew Jenkins

Don't, we need your social labour!

Jack Garcia
Jack Garcia

People generally don't like being used, and that includes suicidal people. The tendency for non-depressed people to say shit like "don't kill yourself, I need you!" is utterly retarded and unempathetic.

Cooper Reyes
Cooper Reyes

Someone telling me that he needs me would probably keep me more likely alive than some prep talk about how life is precious etc

Jonathan Davis
Jonathan Davis

It was asked if socialism had anything to say, and that is the answer. Socialism is only possible thanks to the advent of fully social labour, and the dead can't engage in it.

Carter Cox
Carter Cox

Too bad nobody will ever say that to you.

Jaxson Murphy
Jaxson Murphy

But people already did

Parker Hughes
Parker Hughes

Telling suicidal people that life is precious is another shitty thing that non-depressed people do. An appropriate response would be to just listen to them, empathize with them, and make them feel loved. But that's hard and requires work, so most don't do that.
An economy that values people only insofar as they can participate in production isn't a socialist one. If that's what socialism has to say about suicide then I'm emphatically not a socialist.

Ryder Stewart
Ryder Stewart

Collective suicide by all proletarians will force the bourgeoise to produce for themselves, pushing us one step closer to socialism.

Josiah Reed
Josiah Reed

make them feel loved
Some people are not loved. You are in effect asking that we love people because they would otherwise kill themselves. That's a tall order.

Cooper Russell
Cooper Russell

To be fair the only reason a lot of people don't kill themselves are because they have a family who they don't want to hurt.

Leo Gray
Leo Gray

Didn't meant to sage.

Leo Diaz
Leo Diaz

Generally it's the people close to a person trying to convince them not to commit suicide. If you're a stranger to a person then you're probably not the right person to be trying to convince someone not to kill themselves. Obviously that isn't the case all the time, but even in the case where you're a stranger trying to make someone feel loved and cared for is still a good way convince them to not kill themselves. You don't have to know someone to make them feel cared for.

Xavier Evans
Xavier Evans

Banned on grounds of destruction of public property.

Jayden Hill
Jayden Hill

This socialist has something to say on the matter do it

Elijah Carter
Elijah Carter

If you consider it, we have failed you.

Note: This applies to MOST people, not all.

Nolan Taylor
Nolan Taylor

In a perfect free society people should be allowed to choose whenever they are finished with existing tbqh.

Austin Davis
Austin Davis

severely underrated comment

Asher Sullivan
Asher Sullivan

"What's this complaining I hear from you, user, you don't like to work in my glorious iPhone factory? You are free to stop existing any time you feel like. Use the suicide booth just around the corner and it's done if you decide. Works on labour voucher, of course - no currency in communism, buddy!"
sorry I needed to use this shitposting opportunity, no hard feelings fam :ˇ)

Cooper Ortiz
Cooper Ortiz

this.

Xavier Johnson
Xavier Johnson

What about mentally ill people, which are not capable to manage their behavior?

Liam Lopez
Liam Lopez

We should get large numbers of people to threaten suicide as a tactic of political leverage.

Chase Perez
Chase Perez

I dunno. But 4chan hit the nail right on the head.

Easton Howard
Easton Howard

Nah vrgin gaymers were always bitter reactionaries. No one made them that way and they deserve to be openly mocked for their attitudes and deprived of material benefits because of them.

Julian Hughes
Julian Hughes

muh "no gurlz allowed" treehouse club

Bawwwww

Ethan Sullivan
Ethan Sullivan

this is some spooky shit

Zachary Walker
Zachary Walker

Kill everyone who commits suicide.

Nathaniel Cook
Nathaniel Cook

not sure if shitpost, but I actually love the complete reversal (young and mostly online) leftists have done on this in the last few years, and how we're now all claiming it was "always" like this to feel better about our humiliating failure to attract and hold onto a layer of people that should be (and previously have been) an easy sale for leftist politics.

Jayden Morales
Jayden Morales

But people die when they are killed

Colton Scott
Colton Scott

Just kidding, comrade.

Hudson Cox
Hudson Cox

https://www.marxistsfr.org/archive//marx/works/1845/09/suicide.htm
TL;DR suicidal ideation is a symptom of systemic flaws that le humanism must endeavor to correct.

Hudson Hill
Hudson Hill

https://www.marxistsfr.org/archive//marx/works/1845/09/suicide.htm
TL;DR suicidal ideation is a symptom of systemic flaws that le humanism must endeavor to correct.

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