The Cultural Revolution

Nathaniel Jenkins
Nathaniel Jenkins

What the fuck was that all about? From what little I've read, it looks like the youth of China just went nuts for Mao and killed a bunch of people, but that narrative reeks of western propaganda even if there is some truth to it.
What are some good sources on the subject? Red pill me.

All urls found in this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6McbfQeIsC4
Liam Price
Liam Price

Manufactured mass hysteria that is at the root of the cultural wasteland that China is today. True cultural marxism.

Jonathan Taylor
Jonathan Taylor

Buncha Chinese people destroying everything related to ethnicity-based culture for being "reactionary". Retarded, I know.

Wouldn't mind a cultural revolution if it meant smashing up foreign franchises of American corperations like McDonalds or Footlocker though. Azerbaijan's even got the world's largest KFC.

Entartete kultur!

Jackson Morales
Jackson Morales

Nothing of value was lost. Fuck Confucius.

Jackson Hughes
Jackson Hughes

Red pill me
The idea of cultural revolution organically arises from Maoism and general opinion of leftists of the time.

Idea of Maoism was that the capitalist relations will create capitalist culture and capitalist society, unless those things are constantly removed.

Idea of leftism is that the proletariat moves towards socialism naturally, unless something obstructs it.

Cultural revolution was a self-induced coma of the Chinese state to solve both of those problems, to see what the anarchy would result into.

It wasn't successful, but it didn't totally failed, as it immensely redpilled the Chinese mass consciousness: becoming extremely pragmatic and rational thinking people.

Of course, western propaganda is just that: cultural revolution was a powerful enough ideological cause that created things like the Paris spring.

Ryder Cruz
Ryder Cruz

That shit ain't pulled out of Marx or Mao's derriere, it has a historical antecedent in the era of Qin Shi Huang, first emperor of China. Both were aimed to bring down Confucian ideas, though.

Matthew Gutierrez
Matthew Gutierrez

the cultural wasteland that China is today
How exactly is modern China a cultural wasteland, what was its' cultural impact before Mao?

Joseph Roberts
Joseph Roberts

I'm curious how you came to the conclusion that Mao's cultural marxist revolution had more to do with Qin Shi Huang than with both Mao and Marx.

How can a metaphorical term have an exact value?

Ian Taylor
Ian Taylor

How can a metaphorical term have an exact value?
I don't know. It was you who have made a claim in that regard (that todays' China is a cultural wasteland, and, aparently, wasn't one before Mao), so I'm asking you to back that up and explain - how it is a cultural wasteland today and how it didn't use to be, according to you.

Lucas Barnes
Lucas Barnes

My personal opinion, is that Mao alone produced more cultural value than all of China combined for the past 300 years before him.

Jaxon Cruz
Jaxon Cruz

this is some next level reddit spacing

Julian Kelly
Julian Kelly

Separating paragraphs with an extra space is a standard spacing, faggot.

Christian Sanders
Christian Sanders

lines are paragraphs

Gabriel James
Gabriel James

Destroy all books except those from Mao, destroy all art, destroy all antiques, sweep up children and teens into a hysterical group-think frenzy, destroying families, engaging in acts of madness like killing all sparrows, taking children from their parents to raise them in murderously incompetent communes, turning an entire nation into a resource pool of narcissistic supply..

You are either profoundly evil, the sort of cretin who actually enjoys living in a prison camp where everything thinking moment is arranged in communal domination or an idiot who views politics like a warhammer game in which you choose those with the coolest aesthetics.

Parker Fisher
Parker Fisher

From what little I've read
excellent thread, OP

Mason Lopez
Mason Lopez

Im trying to learn more, dont bulli

William Gonzalez
William Gonzalez

You can never read enough dude

Mason Wilson
Mason Wilson

Somebody think of the Children!!! Oh, the humanity!!!
Nice dodge of my question with overexaggerated feels, bruh.
You are either profoundly evil, the sort of cretin who actually enjoys living in a prison camp where everything thinking moment is arranged in communal domination or an idiot who views politics like a warhammer game in which you choose those with the coolest aesthetics.
It is an objective fact, that cultural life of the late Chinese Empire was nothing more than consumption of many centuries old classical culture, and thus had exactly zero impact in other countries or even its' own. On the other hand, Mao had most significant worldwide impact. He was studied and revered not just in China (which he created) but in numerous Asian, European and Latin American circles.

Evan Brooks
Evan Brooks

It also was grounded in a internal power struggle between Mao (who was sidelined after the great leap forward) and his faction and party members like Deng.

Ryder Fisher
Ryder Fisher

Dude change the culture but keep the material conditions that created it then wonder where shit went wrong lmao

Gabriel Jones
Gabriel Jones

Hong Kong movies are probably more cultural impactful than Mao Ze Dong.

The man tried to be a chinese emperor and he died like one, what's there to say?

Owen Young
Owen Young

Hong Kong movies
Pop culture. Ask anyone born past 2000 if he knows any.

Adrian Cruz
Adrian Cruz

I haven't talked to people born past 2000 but people from 90x and 80x know more about TVB wuxia dramas than Mao Ze Dong.

Dominic Carter
Dominic Carter

The man tried to be a chinese emperor and he died like one, what's there to say?
Did many Chinese emperors were philosophical and political idols of people in Sorbonna, Columbia and Indonesia?

Leo Hall
Leo Hall

Which is more popular, Mao or Romance of the 3 kingdoms?

Liam Myers
Liam Myers

Worldwide? Mao. Countrywide? Romance of 3 kingdoms.
Which is more popular? Socrates or Romeo and Juliet?

Colton Russell
Colton Russell

Is there any statistics to back up that Mao is more popular than RoTK?

RoTK is widely respected worldwide, while half of the world hates Mao or just plainly don't know about him.

Jaxson Young
Jaxson Young

An excuse for mao to regain control in the party after he fucked up with the great leap forward

Isaac Fisher
Isaac Fisher

Somebody think of the Children!!! Oh, the humanity!!!

You invoke such disgust in me that I cannot put it into words beyond this very statement.

It is an objective fact, that cultural life of the late Chinese Empire was nothing more than consumption of many centuries old classical culture, and thus had exactly zero impact in other countries or even its' own. On the other hand, Mao had most significant worldwide impact. He was studied and revered not just in China (which he created) but in numerous Asian, European and Latin American circles.

Inspiring the most cruel and most deranged of all the communists; weatherman underground, shining path, the lambeth slavery case, the khmer rouge, dilletantes from the grande ├ęcoles who'd experiment on people as they do on poetry..

If the nazi's exemplified the banality of evil, maoists exemplified the frivolity of evil.

Ethan Hill
Ethan Hill

Inspiring the most cruel and most deranged of all the communists; weatherman underground, shining path, the lambeth slavery case, the khmer rouge, dilletantes from the grande ├ęcoles who'd experiment on people as they do on poetry..
Nope. The neither of those even called themselves Maoists. that would be people in India, Nepal, Indonesia and Philipines. And last but not the least, the best and the brightest youth of France in Paris spring.
You invoke such disgust in me that I cannot put it into words beyond this very statement.
Don't ree too hard, little /pol/yp.

Is there any statistics to back up that Mao is more popular than RoTK?
I cannot, in all seriousness, continue this autism.

Jaxon James
Jaxon James

That also reminds me, Songoku is probably more popular than Mao in South America lol

Grayson Torres
Grayson Torres

How can someone like the Cultural Revolution and hate SJWs at the same time? The Revolution was SJWs on steroids.

Bentley Flores
Bentley Flores

People here don't actually hate sjw

Juan Carter
Juan Carter

Don't ree too hard, little /pol/yp.

You're the tragedy to the farce, a twitter eunuch most likely, or a fat autist with a mohawk, perhaps both. A fickle shadow without body, serving as a monument to the monstrosity. Like all good monuments, the sound you invoke is the silence of contemplation.

Jordan Wilson
Jordan Wilson

misplacement of revolutionary furvor

Anthony Ross
Anthony Ross

My Chinese friend's dad grew up under Mao. I had a drink with him one night and he told me what it was like.

School stopped. Kids he went to school with starved to death. His mother kept him alive by boiling their boots to make soup, then their belts, then worms & bugs. Eventually even bugs & worms were gone in the towns and cities and cannabalism started. Families couldn't stand to eat their own dead children, so they swapped.

One day the government police pulled two of his uncles out of their house and executed them in the street on suspicion of dissidence.
His mother ran away to the woods with him, and kept him alive by peeling the green layer off the back of tree bark & boiling it into a paste.

They lived off of this bark paste & bugs for months. In the end over 27 million people had starved to death, countless executed without trial, because of one man's dream of 'utopia'.

He was a monster, and like so many monsters he believed what he was doing was right and good. A cautionary tale for everyone, especially someone who thinks communism isn't the same damn shit as fascism. It's literally Pepsi vs Coke.

Utopia does not exist. We can only try to make what we have better, a little more every day.

Landon Howard
Landon Howard

They do, you're just a hamtongued mong with no sense of nuance.

Cameron Butler
Cameron Butler

humanists pls go
this is an Althusser board

it appears this thread has attracted all the hot takes one might need for the day

Asher Walker
Asher Walker

You're the tragedy to the farce, a twitter eunuch most likely, or a fat autist with a mohawk, perhaps both. A fickle shadow without body, serving as a monument to the monstrosity. Like all good monuments, the sound you invoke is the silence of contemplation.
Words without purpose, meaning and practice. Classic, as far as fascist romanticism goes.

Jonathan Perry
Jonathan Perry

I wish it was a hundred million

William Walker
William Walker

My Chinese friend's dad grew up under Mao. I had a drink with him one night and he told me what it was like.

School stopped. Kids he went to school with took to self education and political activism. His mother mustered literacy and joined the village council. Eventually the era of great prosperity and justice dawned upon the land.

One day the they exposed american spy and handed him to police, who executed him on the village's edge.

Liam Martinez
Liam Martinez

Mao here, you're lying. Self-crit now.

Josiah Carter
Josiah Carter

My Chinese friend's dad grew up under Mao. I had a drink with him one night and he told me what it was like.

School stopped. Kids he went to school with took to self education and political activism. His mother mustered literacy and joined the village council. Eventually the era of great prosperity and justice dawned upon the land

Once he shot an American spy and burnt his passports to help make fried rice. Shit was so cash.

Kevin Cruz
Kevin Cruz

My American friend's grandfather grew up under Herbert Hoover. I had a drink with him one night and he told me what it was like.

He dropped out of school because he was too hungry to concentrate or even go to school. Kids he went to school with were sold by their parents. His mother kept him alive by selling their farmland, then their house and other belongings . Eventually all jobs & and foodbanks were gone in the towns and cities and eating belts, later worms & bugs started and eventually starvation kicked in. As I said, families couldn't feed their own dead children, so they sold them.

One day the government police pulled two of his uncles out of their house and executed them in the street on suspicion of being ebil gommies.
His mother ran away to the woods with him, and kept him alive by peeling the green layer off the back of tree bark & boiling it into a paste.

They lived off of this bark paste & bugs for months. In the end over 22 000 000 million people had starved to death by US sanctions and killed by imperialist wars, countless executed without trial, because of the need to maintain the dominance of the US and the capitalists over the masses.

Capitalists are monsters, and like so many monsters they believed what they were doing was right and good. A cautionary tale for everyone, especially someone who thinks liberalism isn't the same damn shit as fascism. It's literally Pepsi vs Coke.

The internal contradictions of capitalism and inevitability of communism arising out of these contradictions do exist. We can make what we have better, and human nature is basically a spook.

Liam Garcia
Liam Garcia

This on the other hand..

The roc wings fanwise, Soaring ninety thousand li And rousing a raging cyclone. The blue sky on his back, he looks down To survey Man's world with its towns and cities. Gunfire licks the heavens, Shells pit the earth. A sparrow in his bush is scared stiff. "This is one hell of a mess! Oh I want to flit and fly away."

"Where, may I ask?" The sparrow relies, "To a jewelled palace in elfland's hills. Don't you see a triple pact was signed Under the bright autumn moon two years ago? There will be plenty to eat, Potatoes piping hot, beef-filled goulash." "Don't farce any more! Look, the world is being turned upside down."

Matthew Butler
Matthew Butler

sparrows
living

Angel Howard
Angel Howard

Just a megalomaniac having a little fun manipulating the public in his dying breath.

Adam Cooper
Adam Cooper

lmao who let jordan peterson into this thread

Brandon Sanders
Brandon Sanders

Imagine culturally revolutionising he baby boomers OP. Just think of it!

William Howard
William Howard

Mao cleverly and/or luckily tapped into the massive pent-up frustration of the first generation born post-revolution. They were beyond pissed off with the general totalitarianism of society, which they mistakenly attributed as caused by revisionists, corrupt apparatchiks etc. as opposed to being a normal part of the system, and specifically with the rigid school system. As far as I know, many, if not most, of the students back then attended boarding schools, rarely saw their families, were subject to all manner of strict rules and such.

Mao had been increasingly sidelined in politics since the Great Leap Forward disaster, but eventually made use of his biggest weapon, one the Party not only didn't try to take away from him but in fact kept strengthening: his cult of personality. When he gave the go-ahead for the youth to challenge authority, students were only too glad to obey the Great Helmsman rid the country and the Party of "capitalist roaders". They notoriously went straight to the school directors first, as any Western account will say, as if the students were book-burning Mongol hordes. One key detail here is that school directors back then were Party members appointed to their jobs. In other words, they were part of the Party-State, the newer Party members that prospered without Mao. Them being the first targets of the Cultural Revolution wasn't a coincidence.

From them on, it only got more and more messy. Mao steered the Red Guards against this person or that political line, and occasionally steered other groups too, such as the army, alternating between making one attack the other and vice-versa. And like I said, the cult of personality really was his strongest weapon because no one, absolutely no one but him was above political purge nor physicial violence.

Juan Gray
Juan Gray

LaTeX faggot, do you speak it?

Luke Bell
Luke Bell

The great helmsman Mao Tse Tung did 0 things wrong

Sebastian Torres
Sebastian Torres

a fellow mathematician here I see

Brody Rodriguez
Brody Rodriguez

Physicist, close but no cigar.

Grayson Moore
Grayson Moore

It was an attempt to eliminate the liberal wing of the party. It failed miserably and killed any chance for there to be a truly socialist China.

Colton Jones
Colton Jones

Why didn't the Red Guard support the Gang of Four over Mao exactly?

also bump for good history books/documentaries on it.

Caleb Ortiz
Caleb Ortiz

720 min documentary footage straight from the GPCR:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6McbfQeIsC4

Colton Ramirez
Colton Ramirez

weatherman underground, shining path
unironically putting the fucking weatherme n in the same sentence as Sendero Lumioso

Brody Stewart
Brody Stewart

I'm curious how you came to the conclusion that Mao's cultural marxist revolution had more to do with Qin Shi Huang than with both Mao and Marx.
Where in Marx's actual writings does he call for a Cultural Revolution? He argues the exact opposite, that if you change material conditions the cultural superstructure will naturally follow. Capitalists didn't need to wage a war against Feudal culture, likewise, Communists shouldn't need to wage war against Capitalist culture, it's all just meaningless artifacts. As for the Qin Shi Huang thing, during the GPCR Mao constantly compared himself to him, and also most of the pamphlets and polemics of that time written by the Red Guards referred to him as such and made similar illusions.

Leo Hernandez
Leo Hernandez

*allusions, lel

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