Vietnam

How about modern Vietnam? Is it still leftist? How they stand? Is it good place to make some international relations with comrades?

No. It's social democracy which alternates between sucking American dick and getting mad at China for nationalistic reasons. I do know a couple Maoists there, but I don't know about the leftist situation there at all.

Anti-Chinese racists, and imperialist collaborators.

Just got back from being there for 9 weeks. First they hate China. Second they are that flavor of hyper capitalist with shops and advertisements everywhere. They do not have a command economy. Their government does not have the control that China's does. Bribery is how business is done. Hanoi at least is seeing a massive amount of construction. The military runs private companies funded from the defense budget and give preferential jobs to those in the know. Tax avoidance is super normal. Laws are rarely enforced. I don't think I ever saw police on patrol when I was there. Just traffic cops a few times.

China overfishes their waters, threatens them with war if they want to drill for oil in their territorial water, constantly sends the worst quality products, fucked with the vietnamese farmers by at one time importing a bunch of food and then suddenly halting imports without any explanation which ruined a lot of farmers who made a lot of food for exporting to china

Also the war China fought with Vietnam after the Vietnam war is still really fresh

what a fall

Your parents sure knew how to suck American dick lol

Nope.


There is still a central controlled government, but it's hardly recognizable to communism. Vietnam has had a market controlled economy since 1986, which kicked into high gear in early 2000's. Vietnam is now the second fastest growing economy in Asia.


Probably not.

What's left of the communists in Vietnam are dying or already dead. Those from the South who were living under the communist regime openly call Ho Chi Minh a motherfucker in public, which used to be a death sentence in the 70's and 80's. Ironically, it's strongly advised not to cheer for Ho Chi Minh in Ho Chi Minh City.

Most of the population was born after the Vietnam War or too young to remember what happened. They will remember the country emerging out of extreme poverty into a flourishing nation.

Try North Korea or Cuba if you're looking for true comrades.

How the fuck did this happen? How do you btfo the American murder machine, and then turn around and suck its dick? Why did they betray the revolution?

The casualties for the Vietnamese were insane, hardly a "btfo" scenario. That's kinda like the equivalent of a girlfriend surviving her abusive boyfriends beat-down fests until he moves on for another target.

So if we carry the analogy forward, then now the abused girlfriend keeps answering his texts and having hate sex?

Also see: Japan

The most highly deformed workers' state in the world, even more so than China and ESPECIALLY more so than NK and Cuba.

Full capitalist restoration is more or less inevitable there at this point.

Dude TPP lmao

last time i went there i had a few bumbling conversations about the soviet union with some czech tourists.

not communist at all though

They are even less socialist than China

Revisionist as they be, yet they're doing far better than my place Indonesia which is nearly as classcucked as a horribly deformed bastard child of an American & Saudi Arab.

If you look borderline "white" the average person there HATES you. Cry Holla Forums all you want, it doesnt matter how nice and welcoming you are. Despite their misserable living standards and economy they somehow force themself to look down on you.

From the streetvendor stall to the police. Even into the capital its normal and outside of it you are lucky if you dont run into a road block set up by highway police that makes false charges against you and urges you to pay ransom and the price will be about 90% of all cash they can find on you. They take pride in cheating "Westerners", ripping you off and making a fool of you in front of others.

Its common that even if you refuse to get cheated they wont let loose. Its not like hackling on the market, they desire to cheat you and rip you off. They will rather go hungry a day than go down with absurd prices just because you show them you dont want to get ripped off and leave.

They will fill you half a serving and ask your 5 times what is says on the board, then laugh at you and tell the random bystander how they just fucked you over right in front of you and all start laughing and put a shameless grin on their face when you indicate you actually understand some of the shit they pull on you.

STUNNING how quick you are to turn around and shit all over the product of one of the greatest resistance struggles of the past century, solely on the basis of wholly unsubstantiated smears and vague aspersions. Post some fucking evidence, REAL, solid evidence for the bullshit you are posting, or fuck off.

Either liberal or Holla Forums false flag.

wew lad :^)

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lol

So you have no evidence or real argument, so you turn from smearing Vietnam to attempting to smear me as a Holla Forums troll or a liberal. How does that even make sense? At least be consistent and call me a tankie you shitheads.

Vietnam really never gave a shit about Communism and Socialism anyway, remember, Ho Chi Minhs first preference was to suck the dick of the US and only when rebuffed, did he turn to the USSR.

Within a decade of the war ending, Vietnam had already reverted back to a Capitalist market economy and Doi Moi cemented it. It's even more hyper capitalist than China.

Vietnam was always a national liberation struggle painted red.

Honestly of all the major Socialist revolutions, the USSR is pretty much the only one that actually put Socialism first and wasn't just a thinly veiled national liberation stuggle pretending to be Socialist for support.