Open debate, pls no shitpost

Leo Evans
Leo Evans

National Socialist here, can you guys convince me not to be NutSac anymore, primarily to tell me what's so bad about having a homogenous nation.

All urls found in this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TowyIHspv0w
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middleman_minority
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvVpyTEFjr0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EbBbezVtUQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAbbzXe8NwM
https://imgur.com/a/725A7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqqAkp8zKp8
Xavier Jackson
Xavier Jackson

nothing's wrong with it. This isn't tumblr.
We just hate the capitalist part.

Ryder Russell
Ryder Russell

Race is idpol and used to divide the working class.

Leo Jones
Leo Jones

Most socialist nations were quite homogeneous. Even in the ones with very different cultures and races, there was a general feeling of solidarity and helping each other out.

You don't need an ethnic homogeneous nation at all.

Gabriel Gutierrez
Gabriel Gutierrez

le niggers xDDDD
This is what you actually look like

Isaiah Robinson
Isaiah Robinson

You think foreigners want to come to western countries? Capitalism causes immigration by destroying societies for profit.

Luke Taylor
Luke Taylor

Nothing. The problem is the capitalist part.

Zachary Flores
Zachary Flores

Someone actually claims that?

John Turner
John Turner

Homogenous in what aspect and how much?
Literal borg/clone hivemind isn't something to strive for either.

Carson Evans
Carson Evans

it's another one "hi guys im xyz convince me to stop being retarded" thread
could you at least provide some substance in your OP about your beliefs? What exactly do you believe in and what are the justifications for it?

Brayden Clark
Brayden Clark

I didn't think NutSac was socialism it's economically centrist, accomodating itself to the nature of the people. It would be a bit more capitalist in america because Muh Freedoms and a bit more socialist in Serbia because we like unity.

Pretty sure the classes were united more than ever under NutSac.

We are fighting the same enemy under a different name. We are fighting Jews that are in top positions (Capitalists).

1962995>>1962997

NatSoc is not full capitalist, not unrestricted capitalist. There are a LOT of restrictions. The first and most important: DOES THIS COMPANY BENEFIT THE PEOPLE? If no, they are banned.

Well Id say 99.9% is alright

I'd have to write a lot, try and see pic related, you don't have to read all but it would be nice

Thomas Reyes
Thomas Reyes

Most migration movements and refugees are caused by capitalism. Even the existence of black people in the USA was caused by proto-capitalism. Pretty much everything that you hate, degrading culture, art, de-generacy is a direct result of capitalist commodification.

Henry Diaz
Henry Diaz

accomodating itself to the nature of the people
economics aren't dungeons and dragons attributes :^)

Joshua White
Joshua White

yeah trust me i'm a real leftist from around here, gas the kikes class war now

Matthew Morris
Matthew Morris

Pretty sure the classes were united more than ever under NutSac
We don't want to unite the clases. We want to abolish them and liquidate the capitalist class, or at least surpress through a dictatorship of the proletariat. Socialism isn't class collaboration.

Isaac Parker
Isaac Parker

/pol/ faggot here, not OP but I do have a few things to say.

I hate the culture of late capitalism, and I feel as if it is flawed.

I am a "racial realist" (or something) and believe in the superiority of Europeans and East Asians but I have no quarrel with any race, I don't really hate anyone.

I just want everyone to get along and be able to coexist in their own lands free of fear of being replaced and oppressed.

I am confused and really still a centrist but I feel like the intellectual left is better in all aspects than the right at the moment.

/endblogpost

Jacob Rodriguez
Jacob Rodriguez

that's not what I said.

Luis Kelly
Luis Kelly

I could not agree more. But the NS capitalism is very restricted, preventing what you just described.

Not an argument. You can change economics of an ideology slightly from state to state.

I know very well what socialism is, now i see that i misunderstood that comment. I don't like equality and (too much) collectivism because people are not naturally equal and (fully) collectivistic. Forcing them into that results in rebellion of the human nature.

THIS

Also read pic related to get an insight on what I am speaking about

Charles Foster
Charles Foster

Well Id say 99.9% is alright
99,9% of what? On which scale?

Caleb Johnson
Caleb Johnson

Maybe pdf related might be an interesting read for you? It's not too long, easy to read and entertaining. As you can see by my flag I disagree with the author on the Stalin/USSR part but it's still a good book and a good entry pill for those who feel disillusioned by late capitalist culture.

Adrian Richardson
Adrian Richardson

The system a NatSucc state takes for its currency is that every unit of money is worth a specific amount of WORK
So is this LTV? Labor vouchers? How do you measure the amount of work? What the fuck was the author even talking about? Was this ever implemented? How will it be "guaranteed" by the folkish state?

Fam, as long as there is private property capitalism has game.

Jonathan Cox
Jonathan Cox

You sound like me a year ago. Lurk and read, the real "Red" Pill is on this board.

Aaron Moore
Aaron Moore

If you're actually interested in Leftism and not just here to shitpost and try to belittle leftism, good job. The best way to spoonfeed you is to recommend books to read. I recommend "Wage Labor and Capital/Value Price and Profit", it's really short and easy read that puts marxian economic theory into a sort of "reader's digest".

On your concerns over race, we don't really care for the most part about race. Since leftism is about uniting the working class against the ruling class, i.e. while race may be of concern to some individuals it is irrelevant to the ideology as a whole.

Cooper Cook
Cooper Cook

I didn't think NutSac was socialism it's economically centrist, accomodating itself to the nature of the people. It would be a bit more capitalist in america because Muh Freedoms and a bit more socialist in Serbia because we like unity.
There is no such thing as an intrinsic, eternal essence of "peoples" explaining the current political predispositions in a given context.

Pretty sure the classes were united more than ever under NutSac.
The working class was forcibly "united" with the capitalists class to the objective interest of the latter because these have antagonistic interests.

We are fighting the same enemy under a different name. We are fighting Jews that are in top positions (Capitalists).
No, we aren't. Not all capitalists are Jews and not all Jews are capitalists. Besides, we're not fighting against a malevolent cabal, we're fighting against a political and economic system.

NutSac is not full capitalist, not unrestricted capitalist. There are a LOT of restrictions.
That is also the case in the US, especially since the New Deal. Is the US not "full capitalist"…?

The first and most important: DOES THIS COMPANY BENEFIT THE PEOPLE? If no, they are banned.
Who is "the people" and how do you determine what is a benefice to them?

Well Id say 99.9% is alright
Not even in Korea does such a homogeneous ethnic makeup exist. It simply doesn't and it won't, ever. Get over it.

Samuel Watson
Samuel Watson

There's nothing in general which conflicts with communism in this sentiment. As long as this doesn't involve private property its compatible.

Liam Lewis
Liam Lewis

We are fighting the same enemy under a different name. We are fighting Jews that are in top positions (Capitalists).

Wrong. We are fighting CapitaliSM, not CapitaliSTS. Cut off a head of the Hydra and two more shall appear.

Hunter Collins
Hunter Collins

Labor standards do not work, which is why you fascists were so eager to loot gold and machinery from the subjugated territories. L2econ, nazi scum.

Liam Barnes
Liam Barnes

Nothing, just don't feel like shoving it down people's throat.

William Gutierrez
William Gutierrez

yeah dude it's okay you can be a socialist even if you're a racist lunatic who wants to deport non-whites *vapes*

Holla Forums in a nutshell

Elijah Gomez
Elijah Gomez

But the NS capitalism is very restricted, preventing what you just described
I'm sorry, but when I looked at what the Nazis did they entertained a debt-fueled economy based on a ponzi scheme (MEFO-Wechsel) that eventually forced them to declare war earlier than they planned to so they can exploit value out of the conquered countries, like in Greece, where they forced the state to give them a loan, a loan which the Greek government in 2017 still demands compensation for. I do not see your ideology to be sustainable and immune to these degenerations of capitalism. Are you aware what we Marxists think are the contradictions of capitalism, such as the falling rate of profit or monopolization? Also, do you know Lenins analysis of imperialism as the highest stage of capitalism? You can complain all you want about the socialist states which existed, but they were never subjected to econmic crisis like boom and bust cycles in capitalism. They had a sustainable economic development until they were deliberately dismantled.
I don't like equality
That's not what we want. We want to stop exploitation, and that the workers collectively own the means of production. We have nothing against meritocracy. In fact, one of Marx criticisms of capitalism is that it in fact doesn't grant enough equality of opportunity. Did you know that Lenin coinded the phrase: "One who doesn't work shall not eat"?
collectivistic
Don't you think capitalism isn't collectivistic? Get up, go to work, be a wageslave, overwork log into Facebook, like some shit, eat, watch Game of Thrones, sleep, repeat. At least that's the enforced pattern for 98% of the population under capitalism. Stepping outside this pattern may make you a "weirdo". So how is this not collectivistic?

Samuel Torres
Samuel Torres

you could use some dialectical materialism

Noah Martin
Noah Martin

This is not the main critique.
The main critique is how it's destructive, and how Nazis prostituted most of their industry to high bourgs.
The second critique is how Nazism (and most far-right ideologies) tend to simplify problems by either pointing out to an hostile boogieman (the Jews, the SJW, the Nigoos…), dreams of old glory (muh Ancestors!!), and how it's inherently destructive.

So much than even $trasser hated Hitler for that.

Look at how the workers who build Hitler castle (the Berghoff), for a telling example.

Liam Jones
Liam Jones

everyone to get along and be able to coexist in their own lands free of fear of being replaced and oppressed
racist lunatic who wants to deport non-whites
i mean as long as they meant what they said in good faith there's no reason to suppose they have any such malicious intent
now fuck off back to reddit

Tyler Thomas
Tyler Thomas

yeah dipshit keep spouting leftist-sounding buzzwords that will conceal your complete lack of ignorance of socialist theory beyond reading the wikipedia page for the manifesto, that will work

Luis Powell
Luis Powell

or you can fuck off with your idealism and stop pretending to be a marxist.

Chase Ortiz
Chase Ortiz

Iron Guard Romania
SIMILIAR TO MARXISM
I'm a SocDem and even I feel insulted.

Jordan Lewis
Jordan Lewis

It is referring specifically to a quote in which the one guy behind the Iron Guard said that his interests entirely align with the communists and the working class except that he is a Christian

Lincoln Ross
Lincoln Ross

That picture
The Iron Guard was a genocidal clero-fascist gang. Why the fuck would any self-respecting leftist want to associate with such scumbags in any way whatsoever? This honestly leads me to believe you're some /pol/ infiltrator trying to peddle your bullshit around here because even nazbols wouldn't be so bold about it.

>racist lunatic who wants to deport non-whites
You're not very au fait, are you? Or maybe just playind dumb. "Coexistence is one's own land" is a neo-fascist dog-whistle for forcibly deporting non-whites back to their alleged country of origin through force if necessary in the name of racial preservation. Do you believe there is such a thing as a peaceful ethnic cleansing?

or you can fuck off with your idealism and stop pretending to be a marxist.
You don't even know what idealism means, you just know leftists think it's a bad thing so you spout it around whenever someone disagrees with you. Go back to /pol/.

Nolan Gutierrez
Nolan Gutierrez

I'm not a Stirnerite, I even don't really like the guy for not taking Spirtualism material manifestations into account, but really, the Iron Guard was spooked.
They had their own legion of Martyrs willing - eager - to die for God and Country.
And they are class collaborators in the same ways fascists are.

If you want allies to organise workers, go with the Roses instead.

And just to drive the point further, I don't disagree with most of what you say about the National questions, it's just that you really need to read some theory. You're confusing things.

David Williams
David Williams

i mean as long as they meant what they said in good faith there's no reason to suppose they have any such malicious intent

Do you smell the brain matter spilling out through your ears? You are an idiot if you believe in the irony meme. The fascists never mean what they say. When people spend an inordinate amount of time making racist jokes and conspiracy theories, chances are they actually believe in them.

Of course you are probably that Trot who was condemning the DSA for "idpol" when they were the ones who actually stood up to the fascists. Infiltrator, stupid, or is it just Trotskyite nature to support fascists over communists? It is truly hard to say.

Levi Morales
Levi Morales

99.9% of any country should belong the the same race. That's ethnically homogenous enough.

I will read it, but just to make it clear: I do not support today's autistic capitalism.

The value of the money is supported by the labor of the people.The reichsmark is worth only as much as the amount of labor behind it.

How does restricted capitalism have game with private property enabled?

"redpill" me, what changed you?

No real unity can come from non-homogenous peoples. It is in our darwinian nature to reject people that do not belong to our ethnic tribe. It's in our nature to hate intermixing as much as bestiality, there was a fun study recently done on that.

There is no such thing as an intrinsic, eternal essence of "peoples" explaining the current political predispositions in a given context.
Of course there is, a group of people can feel more collectivistic and interconnected. Some (like USA) are famous for their freedoms.

The working class was forcibly "united" with the capitalists class to the objective interest of the latter because these have antagonistic interests.
The capitalists that got rich there did it on their own merit. They did something for the betterment of the nation so they deserved that place. People under NS rule were taught not to care for mammonism and materialistic things. They were taught to fight for a more noble cause

No, we aren't. Not all capitalists are Jews and not all Jews are capitalists. Besides, we're not fighting against a malevolent cabal, we're fighting against a political and economic system.
I admit I didn't explain it well enough. I hate the capitalists that got there by rigging the system and by being crooked, It's okay to be "rich" (to a certain extent) if you bettered the nation. Besides, Jews are overrepresented in the 1%, in the media and in the "crooked capitalist" group.

That is also the case in the US, especially since the New Deal. Is the US not "full capitalist"…?
Capitalism can be restricted in many ways, US is doing it wrong certainly.

Who is "the people" and how do you determine what is a benefice to them?
I will show you by an example:
The porn industry would be banned because it degrades woman and destroys a man's dopamine receptors. It promotes fun of the people, simple enough.

NS germany did not start the war for economic reasons. If it did, Hitler would not offer over 20 peace offers to britain 1939-1941. It started over the bloomberg massacre. Pic related

Just because there are social taboos(no matter how retarded they are) it doesn't mean it's collectivistic. What i meant by individualism is not caring about people of your own race and nation.

Pic related is the reason for the hatred of the eternal Jew in NS Germany. They have a lot of media and world influence even today, pic related again.

Andrew Morales
Andrew Morales

To clarify I am this guy, thanks for the replies, I appreciate it. Getting a better political perspective is beneficial to me and is refreshing, kinda tired of the echochamber /pol/ is.

I am not

Jackson Hughes
Jackson Hughes

Correcting this post, jesus christ I'm retarded.

I am actually sage for the doublepost

Caleb Foster
Caleb Foster

Pic related is the reason for the hatred of the eternal Jew in NS Germany. They have a lot of media and world influence even today, pic related again.
No. Hitler hatred from the Jew did not came from that - that would be Mosley or $trasser-style anti-Semitism.
Hitler hatered was fuelled with mysticism, magical and poetic thinking. His hatered of the Jew - the eternal Jew - was not entirely on a Materialistic level.

Also, even if Jews did control most of the things, this is not a valid ground for Antisemitism - because it's not their race that makes them behave like that, it is Capitalism.
I'll let Comrade Jones explain that bit to you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TowyIHspv0w

Finally, your second Pic related is completly retarded and has been debunked before. As for Journalists, there are far more Irish descendants than the average and I don't see you throwing a fit about it.

Jonathan Stewart
Jonathan Stewart

Capitalism can be restricted in many ways, US is doing it wrong certainly
To stimulate the moribund economy demanded the nerve, which Hitler had, to invest money that the government didn't yet have, rather than passively waiting – in accordance with "sound" financial principles – for the economy to revive by itself.

Today, our whole era is dying economically because we have succumbed to fearful hesitation. Enrichment follows investment, not the other way around.

Since Hitler, only Ronald Reagan has seemed to understand this. As President, he realized that to restore prosperity in the United States meant boldly stimulating the economy with credits and a drastic reduction in taxes, instead of waiting for the country to emerge from economic stagnation on its own. - Leon Degrelle

Andrew Lopez
Andrew Lopez

Capitalist allows it. They intentionally subvert every nation they are in.

I agree with Jones, jews are not the source of all evil. It's retarded to think that. Jews are the sources that promote todays fun of the nations.

Can you point me to a source which debunks the news? Also, pic related.

Jaxon Foster
Jaxon Foster

Just because there are social taboos(no matter how retarded they are) it doesn't mean it's collectivistic
To clarify my position, what I was also trying to say this all happens through commodification of pretty much everything - even socialism itself (Che shirts, etc.). What we seek to end is commodity production, as in: Production for exchange. In our current mode of production we produce for exchange (private profit) instead of for use. The market doesn't care how useful something is for society, it just cares about how profitable it is. We want to establish a society in which the people cooperatively decide what is to be produced. The reason Coca-Cola sponsors LGBTW+ marches (to which I assume you are opposed to) is not because Jews secretly control all big corporations, no, it is because it is simply profitable for them to do so.

Kevin Adams
Kevin Adams

war time economy with lower wages that made sure all of the """good germans'''' had jobs had low unemployment
german american magazine made to show the nazis in a good light is an example of what doves the nazis were while ignoring there calls for total war
tens of millions of christians, ukrainians, russians etc were killed in the ussr despite the fact that the population rose by millions
the usa has been deregulating its economy since the 60s, and people are surprised when those who control the banking and finance system have bought everything
makes u think

Josiah Rivera
Josiah Rivera

Why the fuck would any self-respecting leftist want to associate with such scumbags in any way whatsoever?
Because its a historical reality. He went into prisons and talked to marxist and realize they both wanted the same economic system but also wanted the protection of his culture, religion, and people.

Ayden Perry
Ayden Perry

being surprised when bankowners want cheap labor
getting mad at idpol zionists instead of the system that keeps them in power

Hudson Butler
Hudson Butler

it creates unneeded ethnic and racial tension. this is for the simple fact that no 'homogenous' nation exists anywhere and any time people have tried to enforce such an ideal has required incredibly repressive status apparatus to do so.

so, if you wanted to form such a state, you are required to forcibly remove anyone that doesn't fit in with the 'homogenous' ideal. when you combine this with free market capitalism, its a recipe for disaster, and it is just like a stick of dynamite waiting to explode. fascists and conservatives are always talking about how 'stable' nutsack is, but it makes no sense to me and never has. this is hte richest country (burger here) in the world, and people come here to attain wealth since there is no wealth to be had in their home countries, and if they tried to build communism at home, it would warrant us intervention. so they come to the only place where there is great wealth – america! they dont do it because they want to 'destroy the white race' they do it because of declining living standards at home.

so at some point, even if you achieve the homo country, you will constantly have to thwart outside 'enemies' with an overmilitarized/policed border.

even worse, the problems within the country wont necessarily be solved anyways just because everyone is the same color. classes will still form, and if the economy tanks, or someone is found heavily abusing their position in govt., this will sow inevitable distrust, and this instability will grow and result in revolution from within the homo borders anyways.

at least, to me this is all common sense, you dont have to be a commie to see how shitty and stupid and unstable nutsack is as an ideology.

i think the best argument in favor of communism is that its truly in everyones long term self interest, except for maybe those who already control the vast majority of wealth, but those people are growing fewer and fewer anyways.

Jace Williams
Jace Williams

NEETSoc (and WN in general) is a political deadend, since you will never, ever, convince even a sizable minority of centrists that Hitler Did Nothing Wrong™

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Brandon Lee
Brandon Lee

It should not comes as a surprise that a Nazi is historically illiterate.
Jews have been a scapegoat for centuries, accused of poising wells during Pests. They do subvert the nations they are in ; they are just perfect responsible, much like Witches were.

They flourished in the business and banks out of necessity, not out of malice or anything. It's because they were not allowed to own land, so they went in finance and became good at it.

A quote from a Jewish supremacist is not proof.
Your side have been saying the exact same thing, there also have been black supremacists believing we are a scientific experiment from a big-headed black man. Those extremists exist but do not represent the Jewish people at large.

Neither is your wesbite. Dozens of websites exist to provide shelter to refugees - Muslims, Christian, Jewsih, Non-religious. As a proof, look at the popular movement #RefugeeWelcomes in Bayern and Austria - fervently catholic.

I acknowledge it faded out. Hell, I even think the refugee crisis is handled terribly. But that's not the point.

As for the debunking of the News, I don't have the pic on hand, but most of your lists are either nobodies or non-practicant Jewish people, like Rosa. The myth of the Judeobolshevik has been debunked, we even had a thread about it recently.

Alexander Flores
Alexander Flores

this is a good point too. the whole 'muh jews' talk is old hat. they could be irish for all i care, i dont know why it matters that they are jewish. it is the system, but damn if it isnt funny seeing right wingers rationalize how great of an idea it would be that a white boy sends our kids to die in a war than a jew or a black or whatever else. tooooo funny

Landon Hall
Landon Hall

Jews have been a scapegoat for centuries

I don't know, I think that if practically every nation your people inhabit comes to the conclusion that you're nation-wrecking pests I think it might be time to examine yourselves (or just double-down on the "Why do they hate us, so? I only lend to the goyim at 30% interest!")

Anthony Turner
Anthony Turner

This tends to be representative of my experience here.
I fully agree with this board's general economic views and support the seizing of the means of production and so on. In addition I also want to protect the culture and existence of organic (ethnic, cultural, religious) communities as I believe these provide meaning in people lives.

In response people post shit like this or the porky with the jew bait thing and claim I'm a capitalist.
It's really tiresome

Alexander Bell
Alexander Bell

99.9% of any country should belong the the same race. That's ethnically homogenous enough.
How does a country "belong" to anyone, let alone a single race?

I will read it, but just to make it clear: I do not support today's autistic capitalism.
In what ways do you think it differ from (supposedly less autistic?) capitalism as it was before.

The value of the money is supported by the labor of the people.The reichsmark is worth only as much as the amount of labor behind it.
How so?

It is in our darwinian nature to reject people that do not belong to our ethnic tribe. It's in our nature to hate intermixing as much as bestiality, there was a fun study recently done on that.
Unsubstantiated bullshit. What is that study you're talking about?

Of course there is, a group of people can feel more collectivistic and interconnected
First of all, "peoples" don't "feel" one way or another — not everyone in a given "nation" feels the same. Second, you're being ahistorical — political trends are the result of the material conditions prevalent in a certain zone and era, not the expression of an eternal essence.

The capitalists that got rich there did it on their own merit. They did something for the betterment of the nation so they deserved that place.
Yeah, so you buy into the self-made man mythology just like any other dumb American liberal.

People under NS rule were taught not to care for mammonism and materialistic things.
Then why did the regime promise them cheap cars, radios and cruise trips?

They were taught to fight for a more noble cause
Yes, like taking part in a genocidal campaign and mindlessly dying in a stupid war. Now that's noble as fuck.

I hate the capitalists that got there by rigging the system and by being crooked
And now you're just regurgitating the libertarian talking point of "crony" capitalism. Guess what: rigging and crookery is not a bug but a feature of capitalism.

Besides, Jews are overrepresented in the 1%, in the media and in the "crooked capitalist" group.
So what? Does that mean capitalists are all Jews? Does that mean all Jews are capitalists? No.

Capitalism can be restricted in many ways, US is doing it wrong certainly.
What's the "right" way to restrict capitalism?

The porn industry would be banned because it degrades woman and destroys a man's dopamine receptors. It promotes fun of the people, simple enough.
Okay, so you don't even want proper economic intervention by the government — just some moral policing à la Prohibition-era anti-saloon leagues.

NS germany did not start the war for economic reasons.
The economic bubble their gargantuan military spending created meant they had to wage war at some point or another. It was inescapable.

It started over the bloomberg massacre.
No, it didn't. The Nazis had already decided to invade Eastern Europe as soon as they got to power. World War II formally started with the invasion of Poland.

What i meant by individualism is not caring about people of your own race and nation.
That's not what individualism is.

Carson Russell
Carson Russell

They do subvert the nations they are in
They don't*

Romanians also did it before Hitler with their Iron Guard. It was not that they produced far too many students for the industry of the country (2 times the universities students of Germany while being a quarter the size) ; it was the Jews all along.

What is the more credible to you, that Jews have a hivemind that has for centuries convinced them to poison wells and other stuff, or that the Christkillers were the designated target ? Be reasonable, for Christ sake.

Gavin Anderson
Gavin Anderson

What is the more credible to you, that Jews have a hivemind that has for centuries convinced them to poison wells and other stuff, or that the Christkillers were the designated target ?

That Jews as an ethnic minority have interests that often put themselves at odds with the members of the nations in which they inhabit, especially given their tendency towards ethnic networking and nepotism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middleman_minority

It's not the 19th century user, there are better analyses out there than "Jews are a hivemind doing everything according to the Protocols"

Christian Hernandez
Christian Hernandez

What kind of stuff do you have to smoke, to become a nazbol?

Leo Collins
Leo Collins

But for Christ sake, HOW DO THAT MAKE THEM MORE LIKELY TO POISON WELLS, which was the main crime they were accused off ?

Godfucking damit, you're testing my patience.

Aaron Cruz
Aaron Cruz

He went into prisons and talked to marxist and realize they both wanted the same economic system
No, they didn't. Legionnaire ideology was openly anti-communist.

but also wanted the protection of his culture, religion, and people
That's a pretty nice way to say "pogrom their way through Bucharest".

NazBol are nothing but /pol/ renegades who should be banned on sight.

Camden Carter
Camden Carter

salvia tbh. bath salts wouldn't hurt either.

Nathaniel Thompson
Nathaniel Thompson

how come NotSocs can only argue with random infographics and memes or screencaps of other anons explaining things? do they not understand their own ideology or so called "scientific reality" or "hyoomann naychur" enough to explain it themselves?

Blake Rodriguez
Blake Rodriguez

i dont think they should be banned, this isnt fucking tumblr. otherwise we get the opposite: pc idpol faggots pushing their own neolib agenda. ill take the good w/ the bad thank u very much. however, nazbols are pretty retarded when it comes down to it. culture matters, sure, but people like dugin to me are anti communist when it comes down to it. lenin would have sent ppl like him straight to the gulag. when it comes to 'muh culture' im pretty fine believing whatever the hell you want at an individual level.

like today for example, if spencer types wanted to be racist, i really dont give af fuck if they kept it to themselves. the problem is them coming together and autistically screeching for the government to provide special protections for whites while believing in this false meritocracy meme. its sooo dumb and it just makes whites look like a bunch of retarded knuckledraggers

Kayden Lewis
Kayden Lewis

dugin isn't nazbol

fellow nazbol comrades are some of the most intelligent theory debaters i've seen on this board, far better than the controlled opposition for certain

Adrian Ramirez
Adrian Ramirez

Liberal tumblr-type idpol peddlers get banned on sight too, and so it should be. I don't see why we go out of our way to accommodate fascists.

Luke Stewart
Luke Stewart

And you can also defend your country, identity, and stuff, without sliding into fascism.

Kevin Garcia
Kevin Garcia

fellow nazbol comrades are some of the most intelligent theory debaters i've seen on this board
I know Holla Forums isn't exactly an intellectual powerhouse but come on, now…

Luis Wilson
Luis Wilson

i'm dead serious, from my personal experience they're more serious than the average tankies and tend to be simply evolved MLs like i am. i haven't been lurking here for that long but for the past few months i have been i haven't seen this mythical racist white supremacist reactionary duginite nazbol everyone hates

Levi Bennett
Levi Bennett

That pic
De Gaulle sure as hell was a reactionary. His social policies were informed by the national-conservatism and political Catholicism of the para-Fascist Croix-de-Feu movement.

And you can also defend your country, identity, and stuff
What's the point of defending "your" country or "your" identity? This is right-wing idpol non-sense.

without sliding into fascism.
Maybe not Fascism specifically, but the reaction for sure.

Blake Peterson
Blake Peterson

Not his quote, was said by some Swedish guy in the 1860s.

Ryder Bell
Ryder Bell

Ok then I am a white patriot then

Blake Scott
Blake Scott

You guys do not have capitalism in the US. The capitalism you grew up in was crony capitalism/unregulated and corrupt. What Holla Forums wants is a gateway and an welfare utopia which will allow more corruption as seen in every single socialist country but yet they will deny it to their death because they have never lived in a 3rd world country and compared it to a 1st world nation. They're book-smart individuals with no experential knowledge, they're uni professors who pander at philosophy without understanding or witnessing the true horrors of what they preach. They will use ad-homonins to attack you and attempt to slander without any experience withing multiple governments. They will have a sense of entitlement and they will bitch and moan about the rights of people other than themselves. They will literally sell their own kind down the road in order to virtue signal. The only way you can fix it (capitalism) is via regulation but yet the left wants to revolutionize it. No political structure is perfect, but what you guys have is a lot better than what most have. And much of Holla Forums have no experiential knowledge whatsoever because they have never seen or experienced their country go to shit. They are the literal bourgeois they so adamantly hate. They are the literal manifestation of violent fascism they so adamantly claim to oppose. It's a sad stated.

t. Leftist.

Isaiah Moore
Isaiah Moore

De Gaulle liberated France and put Communists in government where nothing obliged him to it. These Communists secured advantages we still have.

His only idea was to keep France relevant, and I respect him for that.

His social policies were informed by the national-conservatism and political Catholicism
He was a social-conservative and went to Church every Sunday. He didn't made a show of it. France is a secular country.

What's the point of defending "your" country or "your" identity? This is right-wing idpol non-sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvVpyTEFjr0
What are to me, Alsace and Lorraine?
In these countries, I have no land or goods.
Historically, it was the bourg who were accused of being non-patriotic.
There is such a thing as civic or left-wing nationalism. I feel French, and I think that in the architecture, the culture, the countryside, the lifestyle, there is something of France I like and want to see pass the test of time.
Does that makes me a reactionary ?

I checked, and you're right ! But it doesn't remove the spirit, doesn't it ?

Nonsense, there is no white culture, white identity, or white ethnicities, but a myriad of European cultures (and other).

Christian Campbell
Christian Campbell

Nazi is an ideology made by Austrian junkie for austrians and germans.
Nazis are just pseudo nationalists pandering to snow niggers. I've seen on half pol nazis wishing their countries were occupied by Germany again. They hate their countries.
If you wish to be nationalist, be one…but unless you're german or austrian don't pander to that useless junkie. If you're not and you're still a nazi, then i hope one day you get you ass deported to Germany or Austria, ebcause that's where you belong.

Juan Russell
Juan Russell

Social democracy is truly one of the most vile and disusting political movements ever. Fascists wearing gloves.

Xavier Stewart
Xavier Stewart

being this bluepilled on the austrian question

Hunter Mitchell
Hunter Mitchell

1 Algerian being drowned == literally Hitler
My only regret is that he wasn't some kind of Left Communist, he would have been our own Rosa Luxembourg.
The guilty were condemned, you baiter.

But seriously. I do not think my country is perfect, far from it. I just like it, I like the fields, the towns, the castles, the churches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EbBbezVtUQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAbbzXe8NwM

John Bell
John Bell

not real capitalism
muh 100 gorrillions
commies are the real fascists
they are the real bourgeois
wow you're friccin stupid

Ryan Hill
Ryan Hill

De Gaulle liberated France
De Gaulle didn't liberate France all by himself. Résistants of all walks of life did.

He didn't made a show of it. France is a secular country.
That's true, he kept his crypto-royalism to himself. Doesn't make it any better.

Historically, it was the bourg who were accused of being non-patriotic.
I don't care what 19th-century social-chauvinists thought.

I feel French
And I feel Chicano and lesbian.

the architecture, the culture, the countryside, the lifestyle, there is something of France I like and want to see pass the test of time.
Why would you reserve this desire for cultural preservation for "France"…? By the way, there is no such thing as a "French lifestyle".

Does that makes me a reactionary ?
Yes.

Jose Wright
Jose Wright

If liking my country makes me a racist/reac/"social-chauvinist" to your eyes, I have no choice but to be one.

De Gaulle didn't liberate France all by himself.
He ensured that we would not become a British puppet and even after, he ensured we would still be relevant.

And I feel Chicano and lesbian.
Good for you.

Why would you reserve this desire for cultural preservation for "France"…?
Because as I was born here, as I enjoy it, I feel responsible for it. That's all. I trust other nations to do the same.

By the way, there is no such thing as a "French lifestyle".
I can assure you, you're mistaken.

Hudson Jenkins
Hudson Jenkins

I can assure you, you're mistaken.
Go ahead, define a "French lifestyle".

Cooper Collins
Cooper Collins

France
relevant

Jace Long
Jace Long

well.. emm.. baguette.. ehm.. croissant.. mhm.. french sluts..

Michael Hill
Michael Hill

It's how we view politeness, it's how we value debate, friendships, work, hierarchies, politics… differently than in other places of the world. As simple as that. That's purely a feeling, of course.

We once were, and still are, to an extent.
Iraq war never forget.

Jason Perez
Jason Perez

it's more an "inbetween" than a pure definiton, a spectrum if you prefer.
L'apéro is a prime example.

Tyler Reed
Tyler Reed

Who cares about being relevant? Only useless cunts do. And those get thrown to the gulag.
The peopel who search for relevancy are always the worst kind of people out there. Always.

Isolationism, nationalism and anarchism is the way to go.

Austin Wilson
Austin Wilson

primarily to tell me what's so bad about having a homogenous nation

by enforcing a nation's genetic purity, culture, and borders, you effectively make a prisoner out of yourself since you lot only stop outsides from coming in, but you also stop people from coming out, you effectively make a fishbowl of a country

Caleb Allen
Caleb Allen

The only book you need to completely debunk National """Socialism""" is The Wages of Destruction by Adam Tooze.

Jose Morgan
Jose Morgan

Unrelated stuff on the holocaust as well:
https://imgur.com/a/725A7

Jayden King
Jayden King

Paris Hilton
Talentless
achktually…
What Paris Hilton pulled was amazing.
Not deserving of nothing near that money, but honestly, the Kardashians would be a much better example.
Not defending porky. She still is a leech to the media-hungry capitalist society, but seriously, terrible example.

There are hundreds of slobs but you picked someone who built her empire on her image, with a lot of talent, although in the most demeaning way.

It's so strange watching her speak like she actually does.
She literally was pulling off pic related for years:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqqAkp8zKp8

Hunter Foster
Hunter Foster

the nation (or society, or the republic, or the "union of idealists", or whatever the fuck you want to call it) sort of has to come first in that the proletariat taking home the entire result of their labor rather than some amount being taken for the use of the collective means that consumer goods rather than capital goods end up being produced, meaning that capital doesn't improve, pollution doesn't get counteracted, the arts don't get funded, growth of knowledge is stagnated, et cetera, which seems fairly obviously bad

also less being killed and destroyed in the revolution is preferable to more being killed and destroyed, and being able to "spook" the bourgeois into realizing their material excess doesn't actually give them a happier life and that healthier countrymen would would mean we don't have to kill them

Eli Parker
Eli Parker

I am a "racial realist" (or something) and believe in the superiority of Europeans and East Asians but I have no quarrel with any race, I don't really hate anyone.
Chinese Americans had a considerably lower I.Q than whites on average only a few decades ago, yet now they score considerably higher- this increase also correlates with a massive improvement of their living conditions. Would you have considered them to be "inferior" back then, and how exactly do you explain this sudden increase in intelligence? Did they all undergo some sort of massive mutation in only a generation or two? Or could it be that access to things like proper nutrition and education are the main reason for the supposed "superiority" of some ethnicities?
Ok then I am a white patriot then
Race is an utterly meaningless concept, the only way you could have a 100% pure "race" is if it was comprised entirely of literal clones.
The whole concept first started in the American colonies in the 17th centuries when European indentured servants and African slaves found they had more in common with eachother than their masters, and decided to work together to revolt. Their "owners" responded by marginally improving the conditions of the white indentured servants, creating a division between them and the slaves.
But let's say that you did have a completely "white" society… would that just magically solve all of society's ills? Or do you think the people in power would just start blaming another scapegoat? Perhaps Mediterranean white people would be the next target, or maybe the Irish- both have a fairly recent history of discrimination just in the US alone. Hell, the nazi leaders regarded Islam highly and considered many middle easterners to be "aryan", yet those same people are one /pol/'s biggest boogiemen. European countries waged war against eachother for centuries, and sometimes even other people within their own country, treating "white people" or any other ethnicity as a monolith is ridiculous. Just look at Japan- they're the sort of ethnically homogenous, highly conservative country you guys claim to want, and yet they suffer from the same issues, perhaps to an even greater degree.

James Rivera
James Rivera

ok so all you've really done is say 'trust me guys im really smart' and other people are saying no and you just say 'no u'.. how about some legitimate reasons why your ideological perspective isn't reactionary and by your claims is "better" than ML. all i get from nazbols is asserist claims that jews should be gassed, which in itself is just anti semitism. wouldnt be surprised if nazbols hated 'niggers' too tbh. its weak and stupid really.

Daniel Rogers
Daniel Rogers

hey guys i have never read marxist theory but let me tell you all about it lmao

Elijah Campbell
Elijah Campbell

i would say you're definitely reactionary if you prioritize nationalism above being an internationalist. loving your country as far as being proud of your hometown and liking where you are from is basic shit, most people like where they grew up if it wasn't a shit hole. what you are preaching is far beyond that and you're dishonest to claim otherwise. you want what is 'good for france' so long as its at everyone elses expense. to be a socdem i dont know how you could claim otherwise.

Ryan Phillips
Ryan Phillips

Do you want to.live in north Korea?
Because thats NutSac

Sebastian Ward
Sebastian Ward

Dude consider Straßerism
Because fuck the exploiters. There's a shitton of literature on this. Ceausescu was basically an atheist Codrianu.

Wyatt White
Wyatt White

tell me what's so bad about having a homogenous nation.
China did this and it set their technology back 100 years. Go ahead and be "homogenous" if you want to be infiltrated by communists.

Evan Mitchell
Evan Mitchell

i was raised catholic nad ehhhhh it is pretty dumb

sure, ive meditated, and it does have value and has been proven to, but buddhism and minimalism as philosophies and religions in gneeral can get completely phukked.
If you don't like Roman Catholic mass you can be Protestant. The Bible has lots of practical advice. Many Roman Catholics have never even picked it up.

Jose Lopez
Jose Lopez

Race is a spook lol

Aiden Powell
Aiden Powell

First foreigners need to know how to start a functioning society… Just look at the Africans and Australian Aboriginals before whites came…

Jack Evans
Jack Evans

Oh yes, a scapegoat. Even though they have been banned from numerous countries 350 times,

Brayden Taylor
Brayden Taylor

It would be kinda hard to have homogenous america, I mean which one of the 500 tribes of native americans would you choose to give the land back to?

James Green
James Green

they have been banned from numerous countries 350 times
Yeah, they have been a scapegoat for centuries.

Noah Flores
Noah Flores

freedom and wealth sacrificed on the altar of vain aesthetics

Daniel Davis
Daniel Davis

if Not Socialists want a homogenous population why don't they just all move to one country in the middle of a fucking nowhere like the jews

Isaac Campbell
Isaac Campbell

you want what is 'good for france' so long as its at everyone elses expense
That's not what I said but ok.

Adrian Nguyen
Adrian Nguyen

Christ, you're dumb. Why talk about shit you know nothing about? Jews were often kicked out of countries because they were bankers and people didn't want to pay them back. Literally just read a fucking book

Nolan Robinson
Nolan Robinson

Or they have just been filthy Jews for centuries?
How could 350 countries all make the Jews a scape goat?

Oh yes, but what about the goy? The poor jew was kicked out but evil goy wasn't. How anti-semetic

Wyatt Peterson
Wyatt Peterson

Maybe there is nothing bad about it, but that doesn't change the fact that you can't have yours be homogenous. America is not white a country and never will be. You will be dooming your country to hopeless endemic warfare and terror that spirals forever. A situation that will be far worse than anything that would happen otherwise.

Ayden Gray
Ayden Gray

tell me what's so bad about having a homogenous nation
The fact that the moment you have your white ethnostate it will immediately divide on racial lines again, this time based on who's whiter than whom. Race is a scapegoat used to deflect the anger of the exploited class, and the moment that class realises that it's still not getting a better deal after the niggers and the jews are removed, a new scapegoat will have to be created or the old class antagonisms will spring up yet again. Racial unity is a lie, material interests will always win out over spooks like race

Elijah Reed
Elijah Reed

also NutSac lurker here, this is a really interesting point

Ryan Kelly
Ryan Kelly

It's because the Christkillers are an easy target, because they were implanted everywhere in Europe and North Africa, and because they usually collected huge debts.

Also, there was a big precedent, if people kicked out the Jews regularly, people didn't bat an eye when another lord did it.

Matthew Young
Matthew Young

this is bullshit as jaw development can be influenced by jaw posture and exercise

eat a McBurger and your jaw muscles don't get any exercise

let your mouth hang open like a slack jawed moron and your skull grows down not out making you look like carl the cuck

next time post a better pic taking that kind of shit into account

Zachary Parker
Zachary Parker

East Asian superiority

LE WIFU AMIRITE xD

Isaiah Myers
Isaiah Myers

I feel your pain, Comrade. Just say the exact same things you normally do but use the Stalin Flag. It honestly works.

The people on this board are not opposed to most of your ideas they just really dislike White Circles on flags.

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