i don't really care about politics anymore, but Holla Forums stuff is actually starting to scare me cause all I really want to do is live a peaceful and fulfilling life without being judged for things out of my control like race.
is forced segregation actually going to be a thing? most of the people close to me are of different races. is anti-miscegenation going to be a thing? my partner is of a different race.
No, it isn't, don't spend too much time on Holla Forums. What is on the rise though is civic nationalism. Western countries have become quite multicultural and to entertain ideas of ethnic cleansing would be insane to most normal people.
Evan Wood
most ethnic nationalists i know say civic nationalism is the stepping stone to ethnic nationalism, and ethno-nationalists are already arguing with civic nationalists about it.
the thing is personally i kind of believe in civic nationalism because i'm culturally western to the core since i was born in a western nation, but the ethnic nationalism would be pretty hurtful to any prospect of living a decent life for someone like me.
Owen Rivera
nonsense, I'm sure when americas economic bubble pops they won't be so civic anymore.
sorry op, there is going to be either a full on Nazi masturbation fantasy and balkanization of the united states or… full on genocide.
Angel King
i live in toronto bro
Alexander Lee
oh, well you'd probably still be affected. canada isn't anything to worry about, I wouldn't think. all of the men there are spineless and thus couldn't do genocide.
Dominic Kelly
Yeah I'm not American. Americans have an unhealthy relation to race due to their specific history.
Cameron Bennett
this city is around 40% non-white, lots of east asians and indians. from what i see, people of different ethnicities get along very fucking well, i have no idea how millions of people in this city will feel about segregation because racial tensions aren't nearly as high here
Carson Gomez
I'd say nationalism differentiates itself from country to country, especially in concern to the identity people attribute to their citizenship and the national founding myth.
France, Britain and USA are civic nations, they define themselves through shared values, Germany and the Eastern European nations are biological nations.
John Edwards
the only way I would see canada going to segregation and such would be if america tried to liberate it again
Zachary Kelly
Liberals started a racial/sexual campaing against whites/males perpetuated by the left.
It's only natural, the left has to fight liberals and stop the racist/sexist mindset that's in the movement.
I'm sure 90% of pol would be in leftypol due to increasing poverty if it wasn't because they have been alienated by the left itself.
Carter Stewart
It's all a larp, my man. Don't waste a thought on it.
Josiah Ortiz
Same as you OP, my gf and a lot of my friends aren't white, and seeing Holla Forums shit even outside of political discussion (video games, TV shows … etc) is really uncomfortable
Ethan Hall
hi Holla Forums, nice falseflag
Evan Bailey
Yes it is. Israel jepson building sentiments and increasing it’s oppression of the Palestinian people.
Nolan Peterson
kys my dude
Jayden Morgan
here’s an analogy to help you understand the relashevnship between civic and ethane nationalism.
civic nationalism is to ethno-nationalism as social democracy is to socialism
Dylan Edwards
Don’t let us waste that opportunity. New England Workers Party
Camden Foster
Japan as one of the highest suicide rates and they literally work themself to death in a highly alienated form. But these are the things Holla Forums doesn't get a fuck about, as long as you don't see black people in your favorite franchises, it's all good.
Logan Brown
One of the worst capitalist shitholes that exist today, the fact that you claim it is somehow doing good is an insult to every Japanese working man and woman, it must feel really comfortable speaking bullshit on the internet when your middle class parents are paying for your living expenses while people are killing themselves in Japan because of working conditions, how about you try working in Japan and see how it's like you stupid fucking faggot. t.guy who slaved away in 2 jobs for 3 years in Japan to get payed the equivalent of minimum wage in the U.S just to get my fucking degree
Austin Lee
Sign. Me. The. Fuck. Up.
Oliver Stewart
Same here. My city has a large non-native/non-white population made up of East Asians, Indians, Nepali, Somalis, Sudanese, Moroccans. They take their kids to the same parks and libraries, go to the same schools, get the same shitty movies from Netflix, etc. Some of them are nice and polite and some aren't. Many have a limited education and do menial work (and lots of it) to send back home to their families. I know some that are engineers or medical professionals or factory workers and so far the only real difference I've found between them are the cigarettes they smoke. They're more worried about paying their bills and making their their kids or families are taken care of than this trumped up racial tension bullshit.
Landon Lopez
Fascism is up for a second round. But it will be resisted.
daily reminder that nazism existed very early in germany, but only gained traction after the economic disaster known as capitalism. they used to be a smaller cult like what you're seeing right now with the alt-reich: youtu.be/23X14HS4gLk?t=140
Matthew Parker
The alt-right never got there leader arrested in an attempt coup.
Jonathan Ross
I wouldn't worry about ethno-nationalism unless you're Black or Arab.
Zachary Lopez
Civic nationalism is ethnic nationalism in drag.
Nolan Garcia
This is a recent development. Until WW2 ethnic hygiene policies were common in America. Things like the minimum wage or work hour limits were favored by the Progressive elite as a way to preserve the Anglo-German ethnic character of America. For instance, the logic of the minimum wage was that racial inferiors were less productive than the Anglo-German, but were willing to under-live him, and the fall in wages would cause Anglo-Germans to have fewer children. This would prevent people marked as racial inferiors from entering the US, or make them unemployable, so they could be forcibly sterilized at a later date. Similarly, Progressive work-hour restriction laws were founded on the idea that women wouldn't have time to have children if they were working for too long, which would lead to race suicide. The British applied similar ideas to their underclass and to their colonies - the Anglo-Saxon race was self-evidently superior and policy should be centered around ensuring that it reproduce itself.
Nazis were inspired by American race laws, but they found things like "one-drop" laws too harsh.
Jayden Lopez
I wouldn't relate the Japanese suicide levels and working culture with capitalism too much. Both things were very much alive in pre-capitalist eras.
Parker Murphy
I disagree. It's a tool for social control where ethnic nationalism is impossible because your empire is too multiethnic. It's a wholesale replacement rather than a facade for something else.
Andrew Collins
it is. but so is a shift towards less capitalist, more socialist beliefs.
Mason Williams
eth nat's want secession t. eth nat
Charles James
maybe among Holla Forumssters, but anybody with any sense and/or a social life knows that ethnonationalism is bunk
Jaxon Carter
the history of modern, unified japan, is literally the ascendancy of the bourgeois class and their seamless subsumation of the feudal class with all the nasty societal after-effects that entails. Japan capitalism demands subservience til death by design, it suits their ruthless bourgeois nobility quite well.
Luke Ross
As long as the left wins, we'll be safe and sound, tovarisch.
Colton Baker
And why do you know more than one ethno-nationalist? Considering you used a plural - these people aren't normal. You're obviously spending too much time on fringe parts of the internet.
Julian Peterson
until the tankies throw the rest of us in a gulag
Carter Wright
implying tankies will be the majority of any 21st century revolution
Dylan Nguyen
They will, leftypol is a fucking ecochamber
Brandon Barnes
Found the butthurt radlib
Christian Murphy
we don't need segregation because niggers naturally self-segregate.
Cameron Butler
The flood cometh.
Christopher Garcia
Don't bet too much on it, ML is dead pretty much in any place where capitalism has reached its intensive stage.
Nathan Price
can we count on the civics to throw the nazis into rivers then?
Parker Parker
Yes it will be a thing soon. White people will continue to be marginalized to the point where they are considered subhuman at the current projection.
Logan Baker
There is more a reaction to Islamism in Europe which as far as I can tell is pretty sane. Also most far-right wing circles are sane enough to meet the left in being anti-imperialist and anti-interventionist.
Ethnic nationalism is a dead end today, because economically it is not viable, Britain is about to put Brexit on its own asshole and fuck itself, Greece got near exiting the euro but decided against it, and Poland's president vetoed just recently the PiS decision to overhaul the judicial system, because of fear of ending the euro bucks stream in Poland. Nationalist isolationism is a current trend, but it is more of a reaction to globalization than a realistic alternative.
Concerning America, it is a tricky one, because there is very high wealth inequality there, so that might trump race tensions, though I am not betting on it, since americans are very low on class consciousness and their whole society is based on antagonism and conflict.
Robert Rodriguez
I mean, you'll always be "judged" by your race no matter what. If they're not out in the field, they're purity spiralling like there's no tomorrow to show they're le wokest goy.
I think these "kikespiracy theorists" will definitely get burned at one point, chances for an alt-right takeover are low and rely on luck. They're literally praying to RNGeesus, I dare say.
The only really persistent and potent threat are the tradfags. They will remain as long as what they perceive as "mainstream" continues to enable the LGBT community and childless lifestyles.
Sebastian Green
if idpol keeps going to extreme, it will actually rise to counter it with their own version
Tyler Bailey
The ultimate red pill is accepting your race and culture, not out of superiority but out of pride, take the segregation pill.
Kayden Johnson
It is interesting that everyone in this thread seems to think that ethno-nationalism is a western phenomenon when anti Chinese nationalist groups are popping up all over Chinese occupied Africa. And the Chinese are themselves are becoming quite ethnocentric regarding African migrants to China.
Jaxon Lopez
Pants on head retarded
It's not Chinese nationalists in China, its Chinese agri and rare earth extraction corporations that are colonising the poorest African countries.
The Chinese workers there are even intermarrying local women. Yes, the Chinese are ethnocentric in China, but that's because 80% of non-urban China is a poor as fuck hell hole.
Dominic Williams
This….what warzone are the alt right livin in that they cant leave home
Matthew Hill
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Lucas Foster
Son. For now the 'whites' [as defined by them] still hold the control over the military apparatus of the US and most rural regions.
If a 'perfect' Nazi masturbation fantasy scenario happened the cities would either starve or be forced out of them due to lack of enough supplies due to the breakdown of logistics.
Adrian Wright
You're reading way too much Holla Forums. Go rest comrade.
Mason Ross
That is literally taken from an Alt-Right music platform. Be ashamed.
Camden Allen
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Charles Nelson
But that's what they want, dim wit. They consider cities and the urban lifestyle cancerous and it's where most lefties live. Ergo, they hope to kill two birds with one stone by cutting off most of the cities.
Evan Hernandez
So a women put a pistol to her head, and shot herself in a cartoon that's supposed to be for kids? Capitalism truly does turn "art" into its lowest form.
Levi Smith
Its my property. Everything these faggots think they "own" is mine.
Nathaniel Sanders
I'm not OP but I'm seeing an increasing presence of "alt-righters" on twitter, reddit and youtube and so on. I know at least one in real-life. I personally find it worrying As long as it is restricted to online discussions I see no harm, and they are no threat as long as the governments are strong, but there is still a possiblity of people with power, or rising to power, adopting their views.
I think in my country the wound of Nazi-Germany is still fresh, so they have little chance in politics, but when the older generations die out and the younger generations get older I think this could change
And increasing instability in the world, such as the potential of climate change to cause this, and more refugees might push some people to more radical actions and ideas
Jordan Rivera
I don't really like anarchism but that's pretty hot
Thomas Johnson
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Nicholas Anderson
you cant marginalize the majority they will revolt, trut me and then it will oppress the minority, it was a stupid jewish idea to put whitey on a persecution hunt
Adrian Turner
Quebec Separatism did not just die out. The alt-right is different, but in many ways similar to other nationalist movements in that people generally keep those views for the whole life its just they might give up on it after awhile
Xavier Wilson
ethnic nationalism does not mean 100% pure ethnostates, at the very least it means making attempts to preserve a demographic majority through some voluntary repatriation (why be poor in america when you can get paid and be rich in mexico? encouraging back to africa movements, which are already common in black american history. etc) ethnonationalism does not need to be as scary as you think it is.
Landon Morris
t. half/pol/
Kayden Anderson
considering my lib """Progressive""" friend who is gay unironically watches Jordan Peterson vids now… I Mean, yeah, i'd say it's definitely spreading.
It's like some ppl don't realize how they are getting engulfed in propaganda.