Living in conservative country

So I live in Poland, probably one of most conservative places on Earth.
A bit about the political scene. The Left almost literally doesn't exist- there is no left wing parties in parlament atm, at these parties have virtually no support. Also no leftist young organizations.
Holla Forums, wat do? How to cope with such country?

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Poland sucks TBH
worst kind of post-modern capitalism in action

What the economy like?

why is poland so reactionary? is it the catholicism?
even among eastern european countries it sticks out.

Poland here too, I've been pussyfooting around joining zsp.net.pl but I'm still not sure about it (the combination of the guilt of being the presumed "aristocracy of labor" with not actually having time to go for protests across the country, and also working in a literal startup under a stockholm-syndrome-master boss).

I liked Witcher 3

Economy is fine, Poland's GDP is the biggest one in East-Central Europe, the economy is growing really quickly and steadily

I know how you feel. I live in Estonia, and I browse Holla Forums sometimes. It feels lonely here too. We have a very small group of old tankies who are basically a dead party, small anarchist scene which is dead by now and gave up to radlib idpol, and a socdem party, which is basically just slightly left of center and only cares about raising taxes and getting more EU money. We have considerable number of SJW's but they are outnumbered 10 to 1 by our massive numbers of conservatives and far-righters.

I just miss the fact that about 10 years ago, we had a good left-anarchist presence, even one infamous squat that was a center of youth activism, but right now, it seems that left is dead, and main presence here is neoliberalism vs. conservatism with fascists paving their way into politics, especially so in the last 5 years.

Sometimes I even straight up fear a fascist takeover, should EU collapse.

Mostly that it got fucked hard by the Soviets: the polish secret police were pretty fucking strong and went around killing most of the softcore leftists so when the Leninists and like got purged post-Solidarity, there was literally no-one left.

It's because other Eastern Euro countries had revolutions in the beginning of the 20th century, whereas Poland remained an ultraconservative proto-fascist country untill WW2 and victimized itself as a martyr protecting good Europe from evil progressive forces from the East.

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I want to add that the only thing that keeps me alive is the fact that most people don't care about politics, which helps me to pretend that politics doesn't exist and focus on some other shit.

we have the shooting of workers under II Republic of Poland rebranded as victims of "communist provocation". please someone wake me up.

Probably, Catholicism is really important in here, and people are hysterically anti-left, in here calling someone "communist" is considered almost an insult

Thank you comrade, I will definitely check this out!

Not really true, few thousand polish volunteers fought alongside Republicans in Spanish Civil war, but got to say you are right

You live in the safest most stable country in all of Europe. I don't see why you are complaining.

I am complaining about the lack of left wing parties in polish political scene, not about the safety.

Tbh, most polacks I know irl are inmigrants, and mots of them are marxist

Really? Can I ask where do you live sir/madam?

For this reason I like to read some right-wingers from time to time. For example, according to them, exactly all Polish parties are leftist, and Razem is literal communism (because the Manifesto lmao). My dick can only get so erect.

In Spain.

Poland is crime ridden as fuck, are you one of those dumb Holla Forums retards who think it's safe just because it's white?

The picture made me kek for some reason, haha.
Well, it's true that Razem may seem communist, but in reality they are socdem. Literally everything in this country a little bit left from right wing is called "communist"

No need to tell me famrade, I was just pointing out the retardedness of lolbertarians and literal nazis who think they uncover a great conspiracy when they correlate le ebin 75% tax maymay of Razem with the Communist Manifesto.

I wish there would be some way of making Zandberg and Ikonowicz have a baby to lead the revolution, tbqh.

Tell me about Spain, user. Why are there so many reactionaries, yet still so many (albeit completely powerless) commies? Is the country still being divided by the Civil War? Is that what that is?

basiclly that

Well aren’t the ruling right-wing party in Poland econmicly Keynsean?

a couple of reasons:

How I wish we had anything really left-wing here, but nowadays nothing is happening, there's Razem but as far as I know they are just socdems, and when I'm in the city, sometimes there are some anarchist stickers or graffiti, but that's pretty much all. There's an anarchistic cafe/bookshop, and there's a pretty famous squat which is also a culture centre, but it's not as active as it used to be in the past.

Elaborate please. In what sense is it Keynesian?

Basically this.

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Basically in traditional leftist fashion, tankies ruin everything

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we wuz vikangz n shiet

the irony. t. polack.

I feel you mate, it's the same here, even with the anarchist presence, there were two squats in a city nearby, and there used to be much more events there, now there is just one, and there are only concerts there, mostly some punk rock bands.
I believe that there is still many anarchists or just leftists in general, but they just lost their enthusiasm and they don't organize that much, or maybe some of them have social anxiety which prevents them from meeting others and organizing.. There is still a lot of anarchistic stickers and graffiti, but nothing is happening, little to none cultural events, no protests and so on.

Yeah, the Poles are really idle, our protests are shit (although the Black Protest was good one).

Well, the civil war is still an open wound… And there's a lot of Franco supporters today.
When it comes to the "commies", yeah… they care more about idpol than class struggle so they keep losing support, even the PCE is shit, IU are a buch of retards and Podemos are glorified socdems with a weird cult mentality.
Despite all this, I can see a rise in actual communist and a lot of my conservative friends are growing class consciousnes…
But we are fucked anyway…

If you're from Poznań, there's still Rozbrat and Zemsta if you're interested in anarchism. I have no idea about other schools of leftism though, I haven't heard of any here.

This is true, there are more of them around than we may think, they just need hope, those punk type lefties and some of the intelligent young lefties around. I am putting hopes on Corbyn being able to create some waves that reach to us eastern euros too once he becomes the PM or somewhere near it.

aren't they unironic Polish equivalent of nazbol/strasserists? I'm not trying to be an ass, this is genuinely the impression that I've got of them (I've never met any member irl)

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m8, I live in Slovakia, our ruling party (neoliberal socdems) is at power just because their leader is carrier politician, opportunist since our previous regime and calling somebody "communist" is insult. "Bolshevik" is insult too, but not as bad as marxistI bet we will turn full tankie if some significant european/close asian state goes red

Not that I don't like to poke fun at my own countrymen, but srlsly fuck off.

It's just a meme no need to get triggered fam. Though tbh the reason Poland gets so much aid is that the EU has identified it as a key capitalist state that can't be allowed to fail if the European project is to succeed. It's sorta along the whole "too big to fail" line of logic

the reason member states get so much aid is that EU is not giving you money, it is pretty much lending them to you.

If that means anything to you, there are people in Poland protesting the "decommunisation" of the streets named after the Dąbrowski Battalion. IPN a shit with their "crimes against the Polish Nation".

If I go to Poland as an American, can I use my Americaness to have sex with women, or is that just limited to east Asia?

polish girls are not into enormously fat men, sorry

you are my least favorite white ethnic minority group

t. chicago

Fuck off, we're full Amerinigger.

Liberation theology? Get in touch with old tankies and start building a community off of individual friends and family?

My family is staunchly anti-communist and all my friends are all wagecucked (though I too maintain that pretense when talking to normies). I've no idea how would I get in touch in old tankies, honestly.

nah, Zemsta is an anarchist/left bookshop and cafe, you're thinking of Zmiana

Bullshit, poland is a shithole. Even if I weren't a leftist I would hate fascists because this is their promised land and i'd rather live in a sharia zone than with these horrible non-people. Unfortunately I don't have the option. They almost turn me into boomerang bigot white-hater.

Is it that bad? I've been to Poland for one week last year, I didn't talk politics with anyone (there was one guy in a pub that asked me if I was a socialist or a cristian but i just laughted at him and evade the question). People seemed nice enough and I had a great time…

>tfw you live in the American South and regularly hear shit like "lynching was just our culture"

But it was their culture indeed.
"The culture" is just another Big Other, and the only worthy culture's purpose was the production of genius. Other than that, cultures were spooks, especially American "culture".

I don't disagree with your thesis. It's just really frustrating when people think culture is a justification for atrocities. The same people who say lynching is just culture will (rightly) object when somebody else claims that stoning is just their culture.

excuse me, what's wrong with lynching?

that's exactly how Big Other works

Never had my dick sucked so much like when I was in warsaw. You womens are total sluts and you guys are ungrateful assholes.

Don't be like this man, i'll come to estonia to fuck your bitches this winter. We can go out and find some pussy for you too

Dude you got the hottest girls in europe with czech republic. What is like to live there? What you guys think of czech republic? What about dubcek? What about communism in general? People would like it back?

Fuck off american, going east to fuck is just something europeans can do. No one wants you here. You country is patetic. Go smoke some weed with josh and try to find a 29 years old to buy you beer

lowkey nazbol yourself?

what the fuck.

You sound like Aussies. They are suffering from the extreme political apathiness. No wonder the political parties keep screwing them over and over, despite the fact that Aussies knew the political parties are the shits.

it is only funny when you're a tourist

Maybe because they got rekt by the USSR and Nazi Germany.

Yeah, I guess. I laughed because it came out of nowhere, I approached the bartender to buy a beer, this old guy was sitting right there and he just asked that.

Hungary here fam,
going to get the hell out soon though as the economy is shit, and this will only make people more fascist on the long run, kind of like trump supporters, every bad thing that happens just enforces their misconceptions

that fucking puppy in the fascist propaganda lmao

Australia isn't reactionary, but it is conservative compared to the developed world (not even the left wing party supports gay marriage for example) and most of all everyone is pretty "lazy" and "apolitical".

Problem with Australia is that it went through a mining boom that allowed Australia to stay afloat then kind of has just costed along with fiddled monetary policy with nothing getting bad or good. Australia's political environment is one where everyone strives for absolute status quo mediocrity.

In that way, Australia is actually probably one of the most "conservative" countries on the planet because literally, the entire political spectrum is "never rock the boat, keep the status quo always". Last time we had a Government that for the first time in decades, tried to do anything, even though everything they did was fucking good, their Government collapsed within like 3 years due to record low approval ratings. Fiber to the Home network, Taxing mining companies, Fixing the rail network, Disability insurance scheme, ETS, education reform… way too much rocking the boat for your ordinary Aussie. Instead, the Tories got in during the 2013 election and literally tore apart and scrapped every single major policy of Labor at insane cost and were given a majority for it in the 2016 election.

Tbf, things can change: I used to think the UK was such between neoliberalism, liberalism with a human face and neoliberalism with a rose. All it takes is one bloke or lass to come along and say "fuck this shit" in the right way and the tide can turn.