US shoots down Syrian government aircraft

Austin Edwards
Austin Edwards

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/06/19/syri-j19.html

By Peter Symonds
19 June 2017

In a marked escalation of the war in Syria, a US F-18 fighter jet yesterday shot down a Syrian government fighter bomber for the first time, claiming that it had been attacking pro-US rebel forces on the ground near Raqqa. While nominally fighting Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) forces, the US shoot-down makes clear that the real target of American-led operations is the ousting of the Syrian government of President Bashar al-Assad.

The US military justified the provocative act by claiming that the Syrian SU-22 had been bombing near so-called Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) troops. It cited fighting that had taken place hours earlier between the Syrian military and SDF forces holding the town of Ja’Din as showing “hostile intent” and declared that attacks on “legitimate counter-ISIS operations will not be tolerated.” The statement absurdly declared that it was not seeking “to fight Syrian regime, Russian or pro-regime forces partnered with them.”

There is nothing legitimate about the military activities of the US and its allies inside Syria, which, under the guise of the “war on terror,” are seeking to carve out areas that can be used to mount operations against the Assad regime and its Russian and Iranian backers. As ISIS militias in both Syria and Iraq are in retreat, the US preparations to move against Assad are coming increasingly into the open.

The Syrian army issued a statement saying that its aircraft had been on a mission against ISIS when it came under fire, accused the US of “coordinating” with ISIS and warned that the incident would have “dangerous repercussions.” The pilot has not been found and is presumed dead.

The US attack follows its shooting down of an unmanned pro-Syrian government drone earlier in June after it allegedly fired on US-backed troops in southern Syria near the border with Iraq. The US military has unilaterally declared “a deconfliction zone” with a radius of 55 kilometres around a training base at al-Tanf—a key border crossing between the two countries.

In effect, Washington has carved out an area of Syria where US and British special forces train so-called rebels—supposedly to fight ISIS, but in reality for its proxy war against the Assad regime. The US has already conducted air strikes against pro-Syrian government forces that have sought to regain control of the vital border area.

Last week Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov phoned US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and demanded that the US stop attacking Syrian government forces as they seek to drive ISIS militias out of the border areas. “Lavrov expressed his categorical disagreement with the US strikes on pro-government forces and called on him to take concrete measures to prevent similar incidents in the future,” the Russian foreign ministry reported.

The situation throughout Syria remains extremely fraught with the Assad regime accusing the US-led forces besieging Raqqa of allowing ISIS fighters to escape to the south where government troops are battling ISIS for control of the city of Deir es-Zor.

Over the weekend, Iran’s military fired ground-to-ground missiles for the first time from Iranian territory against ISIS positions inside Syria. While claiming that they were in retaliation for the June 7 ISIS attacks in Tehran, the missile attacks into the Deir es-Zor area were clearly aimed at bolstering the Syrian government forces.

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Kevin Rivera
Kevin Rivera

The US proxy war in Syria is part of a broader confrontation which is not just aimed at the Assad regime but more broadly against its backers—Iran and Russia. Trump’s trip to the Middle East last month was above all aimed at forging an alliance with Saudi Arabia and its allies in the Gulf States against Iran and its allies in the region.

The immediate outcome was the imposition of an all-out, Saudi-led economic blockade against Qatar—itself an act of war. Riyadh accused Qatar of sponsoring terrorism, but the real reason lies in Qatar’s relations with Iran and its reluctance to join Saudi Arabia in its anti-Iranian war drive.

The Saudi monarchy, which has long regarded Iran as its chief regional rival, is deeply hostile to the Assad regime in Damascus, which it regards as part of a Shiite crescent that includes Shiite parties and militias in Iraq and Lebanon. Backed to the hilt by the US, Saudi Arabia is waging its own war in Yemen against Houthi rebels, who, it claims, are being supported by Iran and who ousted the US-Saudi puppet government in 2014.

The Trump regime signalled its determination to ramp up the war in Syria in April when it launched a barrage of cruise missile strikes against a Syrian government air base on the pretext of unsubstantiated claims the regime had carried out a gas attack. The US military is determined to rebuild anti-Assad forces after the devastating blow suffered by these pro-US militias in being driven out of Aleppo.

The shooting down of the Syrian SU-22 is another demonstration that the US is prepared to resort to the most reckless means to defend its footholds in Syria and lay the basis for the broader war that is being prepared.

While proclaiming its own “deconfliction zones” or no-go areas, the US military reiterated last month that it will operate at will throughout Syria. “We don’t recognise any specific zone in itself that we preclude ourselves from operating in,” Lieutenant General Jeffrey Harrigan, commander of the US air forces in the region, declared.

As a result the stage is set for a dramatic escalation of the Middle East conflict where a relatively minor incident or clash involving US forces and their Syrian, Iranian or Russian counterparts could erupt into a war that draws in major regional and world powers.

Aaron Bailey
Aaron Bailey

Spooky
And to think a probable majority people still don't believe Imperialism is anything other than a conspiracy.
Not that I care about someone who will likely turn his back on Rojava anyway.

James Hill
James Hill

What's the US' game here?
Hobble Assad's ability too fight insurgents basically?

Caleb Moore
Caleb Moore

Since ISIS is collapsing they need a new proxy army to fight him since launching yet another war with American troops in the middle East is politically untenable. They need to provide a safe space "de-escalation zone" to train up their new band of cannon fodder.

I wonder what would have happened if that had been a Russian jet that got shot down? Are the Americans really do desperate to get Assad that they'd risk world war? If things are that close to the wire they must be seriously worried about something that we aren't aware of. Political pressure from the Saudis? Or has Trump just ceded control of the project to the Pentagon, who have been itching to shove Russia's shit in since Vietnam? A frightening thought.

Chase Diaz
Chase Diaz

Or has Trump just ceded control of the project to the Pentagon, who have been itching to shove Russia's shit in since Vietnam? A frightening thought.

My guess is this. Worked for the DoD for 12 years, it's run like a factory except the product is death. These guys get promoted on metrics like missions and kills. Wars are like free rounds of promotions for everyone.

Hunter Foster
Hunter Foster

Oh, good, and here I was worrying.

Jayden Foster
Jayden Foster

Obama wanted to invade Syria and oust Assad before ISIS even existed.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2012/08/syri-a22.html
The only reason that did not occur was public pressure in the US. Then suddenly ISIS turns up and starts fighting a war in Syria and trying to oust Assad.
Just saying.

Oliver Gutierrez
Oliver Gutierrez

Bush Sr. invades Iraq and declares Vietnam syndrome over
Bush Jr. invades again and creates Iraq/Afghanistan syndrome
First as tragedy, then as farce

Ethan Thomas
Ethan Thomas

Russian military halts Syria sky incident prevention interactions with US as of June 19 – Moscow

" The Russian Defense Ministry announced it is halting cooperation with its US counterparts in the framework of the Memorandum on the Prevention of Incidents and Ensuring Air Safety in Syria following the coalition’s downing of a Syrian warplane.

The ministry has demanded a thorough investigation by the US military command into the incident with the Syrian government military jet, with the results to be shared with the Russian side.

DETAILS TO FOLLOW"

https://www.rt.com/news/393028-syria-russia-us-plane/

Zachary Myers
Zachary Myers

[SWEATING INTENSIFIES]

Jackson Morris
Jackson Morris

WELL THEN

Jace Ortiz
Jace Ortiz

Latter image wrong one

Jaxson Sanchez
Jaxson Sanchez

Fuck the war, post more azn qts

Hudson Cox
Hudson Cox

They totally skimmed over this on Good Morning America. But did you know that exercise not only makes you fitter, but helps with test scores? Strange but true!

So doesn't this mean that there's basically an open air war between the US and Russia now?

Zachary Sanchez
Zachary Sanchez

syrian planes bombed sdf positions in raqqa a while ago , its not really a black and white case of usa bad assad good

i don't understand why so many leftists seem to cate so deeply about syrian sovereignty

Xavier Evans
Xavier Evans

How exactly is the US unilaterally declaring a piece of Syria it's personal property in order to protect its proxy forces not a black and white issue

Henry Green
Henry Green

I crave the one or two days of smugposting I'd have between official war being declared and dying in a nuclear hellscape

Aiden Gomez
Aiden Gomez

Is it happening?

Julian Wilson
Julian Wilson

The first battle will be between Trump's unquenchable ego and his desire for profit. There isn't much profit in nuclear war, but can he actually summon the wherewithal to soothe tensions with the Russians and face down the generals?

Evan Murphy
Evan Murphy

It's not like I wanted war peace anyways

Aaron Walker
Aaron Walker

world war
Isn't it more like Turkey, US, Saudi Arabia and Israel vs Syria, Russia and China?

Jeremiah Phillips
Jeremiah Phillips

All imperialist powers fighting each other, not much different from the last two.

Jeremiah Moore
Jeremiah Moore

unlikely. He needs a war right now to take heat off him domestically and get those approval numbers up

Jose Gray
Jose Gray

US forces

That is the area that is occupied by the SAA…

Carter Price
Carter Price

rojava existed before us intervention, you're describing an autonomous region allying with the usa as if the usa artificially created it to oppose assad

Christopher Taylor
Christopher Taylor

Don't forget to factor in all those regional conflicts that the status quo keeps in check. If Russia, China, and NATO are all busy fighting each other, then that will give the various regional powers free hand to settle old scores.

Isaac Brooks
Isaac Brooks

pretty old map, saa and sdf gained a lot more territory

Alexander Ortiz
Alexander Ortiz

as if the usa artificially created it to oppose assad
Except that is exactly what happened

Dominic Kelly
Dominic Kelly

did obama invent kurds or something?

Charles Thomas
Charles Thomas

Were the Kurds independent before US intervention cooked up this phony "civil war?" Did the Kurds make all the American military equipment successive governments have been funneling them all by themselves?

Parker Morris
Parker Morris

us destabilizes region
socialists gain power in the chaos
this socialism is tainted, defend syrian sovereignty

Gavin Carter
Gavin Carter

You can try to muddy the issue with socialist purity nonsense but the purity or impurity of Rojava's Socialism has no bearing on whether or not it was artificially created.

It also won't matter anyway if the region gets purge with nuclear fire because the US is looking for a fight.

Charles Richardson
Charles Richardson

Why did Assad fight Rojava in the first place?

From a strategic point of view, did he expect to fight off ISIS/rebels AND a US-backed state at the same time?
Did he not expect the coalition forces to back the YPG or something?
With one continent and a half wanting him dead, idk why he expect to get out of this with his borders intact.

He should have respected the Kurds autonomy on condition of them not allying with the US.
But that ship has sailed long ago. Now years of war effort has gone to waste fihgting them and he lost the northern territories an anyways, given that I see no end to the de facto American control of the area.

Now even if he extended a friendly hand with a painful smile, the US is not just going to pack everything and leave their new bases there.

Alexander Green
Alexander Green

artificially created
if any socialist effort doesn't occur in these very specific circumstances, it's not natural, and therefore, wrong and not worth of support
Wew

Sebastian Scott
Sebastian Scott

!!!
!!!

Brayden Ortiz
Brayden Ortiz

Yeah, I agree. It seems like he would have had more to gain by just making peace with them, finish off IS, and then make whatever deal with them they he could. Inviting them to ally themselves with the US seems like a bonehead move.

I'm inclined to believe that the Syrians were actually bombing IS, or believed that they were at least. It just seems like another gas attack false flag type thing, but I don't know for sure. Sometimes people actually do behave in ways contra to their self interest for one reason or another. And it's not like Assad is an angel. It's not beneath the US to just make stuff up, either, aside from the fact that they have no legal justification for being there in the first place.

Elijah Evans
Elijah Evans

I guess it's pretty easy to win arguments when you just make up positions to defeat with greentexting.

Connor Stewart
Connor Stewart

rest in pepperoni earth and all its inhabitants, we had a good run. gonna get drunk and pretend we're not all going to die soon

Chase Morris
Chase Morris

Ok, get drank, but read theory while you're at it. Even if we don't, the Idea must survive.

Eli Rodriguez
Eli Rodriguez

gonna try and finish To Our Friends while hammered just for the hell of it

Ian Robinson
Ian Robinson

You will never die buff as fuck
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Benjamin Bailey
Benjamin Bailey

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David Wilson
David Wilson

Fucking BASED Trump #MAGA
t. /pol/

Easton Murphy
Easton Murphy

As a "Saudi puppet" Rojava supporter I honestly welcome this move.

Wyatt Stewart
Wyatt Stewart

Why?

Wyatt Bell
Wyatt Bell

I'd prefer Russia to subvert US imperialism in Rojava so the SDC wouldn't have to rely so heavily on the US airpower, if that makes sense.

Eli Taylor
Eli Taylor

We should've shilled for Jeb! tbh. We could've prevented this.

Daniel Thomas
Daniel Thomas

A neocon wouldn't want to push for war?

Chase Rodriguez
Chase Rodriguez

mfw /pol/'s thread about this

Bentley Allen
Bentley Allen

Yeah, makes sense to me.

Noah Phillips
Noah Phillips

How bad is it user

James Richardson
James Richardson

US are the bad guys.
you don't say !

Robert Brown
Robert Brown

Updated map
Rojava and Iraqi government now have a common border
FUCKING YES, finally a neighbour who don't want them dead. Now they can actually do legit trades and are no longer dependent by Erdogan's pet Kurds led by Berzani.

Jayden Thompson
Jayden Thompson

US controlled Iraq
FUCKING YES,
finally a neighbour who don't want them dead
Are you literally 12?????

Luke Brown
Luke Brown

Did you forget about the US-Iraqi relations eroding lately to the point, where the government considers asking Russians for air support?

Logan Allen
Logan Allen

wut
Did you 4get 'bout imperialism?

srsly, fuck the fuck off

Sebastian Robinson
Sebastian Robinson

Or has Trump just ceded control of the project to the Pentagon, who have been itching to shove Russia's shit in since Vietnam? A frightening thought.
It is in fact litteraly this without any question. Trump has let the operational reign veer when it comes to utilizing the armed forces towards the DoD. They also announced a troop surge in Afghanistan, which had come after Trump left Mattis a free hand to choose how to handle Afghanistan.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/13/world/asia/mattis-afghanistan-military.html?_r=0

Nolan Davis
Nolan Davis

Imperialism ain't worth shit, if the subjects you lord over ally themselves with your sitcom rival on one side and literally Hitler on the other side, because they are praying to the same god or something stupid like that.
I hope your understanding of Marxism isn't on the same superficially liberal level as your understanding of geopolitics.

Jonathan Wood
Jonathan Wood

the subjects you lord over
with your sitcom rival
your understanding of Marxism isn't on the same superficially liberal level as your understanding of geopolitics.
WEW

Hudson Davis
Hudson Davis

So a world war

Bentley Flores
Bentley Flores

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-boats-marjan-idUSKBN19A0J6?il=0

The Saudi navy has captured three members of Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) from a boat seized last week as it approached the kingdom's offshore Marjan oilfield, the Saudi information ministry said on Monday.
Iran's Tasnim news agency said on Saturday that Saudi border guards had opened fire on an Iranian fishing boat in the Gulf on Friday, killing a fisherman. It said the boat was one of two Iranian boats fishing in the Gulf that had been pushed off course by waves.

Hope you guys are ready for another war

Josiah Gray
Josiah Gray

the US and its allies inside Syria, which, under the guise of the “war on terror,” are seeking to carve out areas that can be used to mount operations against the Assad regime and its Russian and Iranian backers.

uhhh… first of all, It's pretty obvious that Trump is a Russian puppet and putin hacked the election so what you're saying is ridicilous. why would trump want to fight his boyfriend? secondly that's not an argument.

Jonathan Phillips
Jonathan Phillips

One United States official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was discussing internal deliberations, said that Mr. Trump decided on Tuesday morning to grant Mr. Mattis the authority. It was the latest in a series of moves by the White House to give the Pentagon and its military commanders more latitude to deploy forces and carry out operations.

Mr. Trump has already given his Pentagon chief similar authority for Iraq and Syria.

This is going to be the most spectacular disaster in the history of hitherto existing society.

Ryan Martinez
Ryan Martinez

I will never understand why the Arabs don't just play along with whatever the US wants to do with the oil shit.

Alexander Cooper
Alexander Cooper

Ya'll coulda prevented this, yearme?

Carter Roberts
Carter Roberts

what type of fucking slut take pics like these?!
i bet she posted it on fb too
teehee look how cute my panties are

Blake Morris
Blake Morris

Hi, welcome to Holla Forums.

Lurk more faggot.

Christian Bell
Christian Bell

being this new

Matthew Wilson
Matthew Wilson

I don't think it's his forst day here, he sounds like someone in their first week online

Camden Moore
Camden Moore

All the more reason for him to stop posting and lurk more.

Levi Stewart
Levi Stewart

reminder

Ian Sullivan
Ian Sullivan

am i supposed to know her?

Jace Diaz
Jace Diaz

This honestly. "If only someone had predicted the material conditions would…" will probably be my last smug words.

John Fisher
John Fisher

I'm sure it has nothing to do with how haunted you are.

Nolan Long
Nolan Long

Why is Saudi so horny for a war? First they went after Qatar and now this

Tyler Rodriguez
Tyler Rodriguez

They're on borrowed time, just like the US. Without their big NATO buttbuddy to back them up, there's no way they'll be able to defeat Iran. Iran has more than double the Arabian population. They'd be hosed.

Nathan Flores
Nathan Flores

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/06/20/syri-j20.html

By Bill Van Auken
20 June 2017

Raising the specter of the Syrian conflict escalating into a military confrontation between the world’s two major nuclear powers, the Russian Defense Ministry Monday issued a warning that it would treat any US or allied aircraft operating in western Syria, where Moscow’s own forces, as well as those of the Syrian government, are based, as a hostile target.

The Russian warning came in response to the shooting down of a Syrian air force jet Sunday by a US Navy fighter plane over northern Syria, where US-backed proxy forces led by a Kurdish militia are advancing on the ISIS-held city of Raqqa.

Sunday’s incident marked the first time that a US warplane has brought down a Syrian plane flying over its own territory and represents a major escalation in the six-year-old US-orchestrated war for regime change. The Syrian pilot, last seen parachuting into an area controlled by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), is still missing.

“In regions where the Russian Air Force is carrying out operations in the skies above Syria, any flying objects—including airplanes and drones of the international coalition—discovered west of the Euphrates River will be treated as aerial targets for tracking by land and air defense systems,” the Russian Defense Ministry warned.

Russia’s Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov described the US attack on the Syrian plane as “an act of aggression and a direct breech of international law.”

Moscow also indicated that it had cut off a “deconfliction” hotline with the Pentagon used to prevent unintended clashes between US and Russian fighter planes over Syria.

Washington delivered a series of conflicting responses to Russia’s warnings. The chairman of the US military’s Joint Chiefs of Staff, Marine Gen. Joseph Dunford, told the media that the Pentagon would be working “diplomatically and militarily in the coming hours to re-establish deconfliction.” Asked if he was concerned for the safety of US pilots flying over Syria after the Russian warning, the general responded that he was confident “our forces have the capabilities to take care of themselves.”

At a bizarre White House press conference Monday in which reporters were barred from either filming or recording answers to their questions, White House press secretary Sean Spicer was quoted as saying that Washington was “going to do what we can to protect our interests,” in Syria, adding, “We will always preserve the right of self-defense.”

Only the perverse logic of the US imperialist drive for hegemony in the Middle East and around the globe can explain the invocation of “self defense” for actions taken by US military forces in shooting down a plane flying over its own territory and attacking forces loyal to the existing government.

The shooting down of the Syrian jet follows a series of US acts of aggression against Syrian government forces. Last September, US-led airstrikes killed or wounded as many as 200 Syrian soldiers in the eastern province of Deir el-Zour. While the Pentagon subsequently claimed that the attack was a “regrettable error,” it provided air support for ISIS fighters to overrun a strategic Syrian government position.

Then in April, the US rained 50 cruise missiles on Syria’s al-Shayrat airbase, ostensibly in response to an alleged gas attack that had all the earmarks of a CIA provocation.

Zachary Smith
Zachary Smith

Within the last month, the Pentagon has carried out three separate airstrikes on pro-government forces that were alleged to have come close to a desert base near the al-Tanf southeastern Syrian border crossing with Iraq, where some 150 American special forces troops are training so-called “rebels” to prosecute the war for regime change against the government in Damascus.

With each new attack, it becomes ever more clear that the so-called anti-ISIS campaign being waged by US-led forces is a cover for an American military intervention aimed at securing the aims of the six-year-old war for regime change in Syria, the toppling of the Assad government and the imposition of a US puppet regime. To this end, the Pentagon is determined that territory wrested from ISIS remain under its control rather than that of the Syrian government. The clashes that led to the downing of the Syrian jet are bound up with this scramble for territory.

The campaign in Syria is part of the broader US drive toward war with Iran that was spelled out by US President Donald Trump in his trip last month to Tehran’s two major regional enemies, Saudi Arabia and Israel. The Trump administration’s turn toward an openly aggressive posture toward Tehran has served to further destabilize the entire region, with the Saudi monarchy, backed by Egypt and the UAE, imposing an all-out blockade tantamount to war against Qatar, which hosts the forward headquarters of the US Central Command, while at the same time depending heavily on revenues from a huge gas field it shares with Iran.

The the threat of a wider war was further underscored by an Iranian missile strike directed against ISIS targets in the eastern Syrian city of Deir el-Zour. The missiles were launched from western Iran, some 370 miles away, flying over the territory of Iraq, whose government gave permission for the attack.

While Tehran justified the missile strike as a retaliation for terrorist attacks earlier this month claimed by ISIS in which 18 Iranians were killed and more than 50 wounded, Iranian officials made it clear that they were intended to send a wider warning.

“The Saudis and Americans are especially receivers of this message,” said Gen. Ramazan Sharif of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC). “Obviously and clearly, some reactionary countries of the region, especially Saudi Arabia, had announced that they are trying to bring insecurity into Iran.” Tehran has charged that the Saudis were behind the terrorist attacks. The Trump White House, meanwhile, issued a statement essentially blaming the Iranian government for bringing the terror on itself.

The threat that the US intervention in Syria can explode into a regional and even global war is exacerbated by the Trump administration’s ceding to the US military brass virtually all decisions as to the waging of Washington’s multiple wars, from Iraq and Syria to Afghanistan and beyond. Troop levels, rules of engagement and other essential policies are being set by a cabal of active duty and recently retired generals, including Defense Secretary James “Mad Dog” Mattis and Trump’s national security advisor, Gen. H.R. McMaster, together with commanders on the ground.

Sections of the military bitterly resented the Obama administration’s pulling back from a planned war against Syria in 2013, when in the face of overwhelming popular hostility to another Middle East war and deep divisions in the foreign policy establishment, Washington settled for a Russian-brokered deal to destroy Syria’s chemical weapons. Since then Russian and Iranian support have allowed the Syrian government to drive back the CIA-supported Islamist militias and retake virtually all of the country’s major population centers.

Reversing these advances is essential for the US to assert its dominance over the oil-rich Middle East. There are no doubt those within the US military brass who would welcome a confrontation with Iran and even Russia to achieve this end, regardless of the threat of a wider and potentially world catastrophic war.

Significantly, when reporters asked General Dunford Monday on what authority the US military was carrying out armed actions against the government of Syria, the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman cited the Authorization of the Use of Military Force Act passed by Congress in the wake of the 9/11 attacks nearly 16 years ago.

There has been no debate, much less any vote, within the US Congress authorizing a war against Syria. The Democrats have raised no opposition to Trump’s giving free rein to the generals and have politically driven the hysterical anti-Russia propaganda campaign that is paving the way toward military confrontation.

Jack Hall
Jack Hall

I remember watching a piece about Putin. Basically Putins job in the KGB was professional shmoozer. He supposedly addmited as much. He had all these techniques that sounded like PUA stuff but appearently were real spycraft.

Anyway they said Bush Jr fell for this shit hook line and sinker and Putin had him eating out of his hand. Trump seems as simply minded as Bush so Putin probably put the moves on Trump too. Probably gave him a blowie, no homo though cause it was just a game of homo chicken and Trump wouldn't back down.

Jackson Russell
Jackson Russell

Ugh I better buy a rifle, and a hydroponic farm.

Nicholas Smith
Nicholas Smith

Gen. Joseph Dunford, told the media that the Pentagon would be working “diplomatically and militarily in the coming hours to re-establish deconfliction.”
It's not really fucking good enough, is it? NATO should be disbanded and the parasites in America should fend for themselves instead of putting all of Europe in danger.

Dominic Davis
Dominic Davis

This is, what, the second or third time this "deconfliction" shit has broken down? I doubt the Syrians/Russians are going to put up with it for much longer. It's pretty obvious by now that the US doesn't give a shit about it and are just trying to goad them into conflict.

Stop. Stop it. Stop the ride! I want to get off.

Ayden Brown
Ayden Brown

I hope the US tries to have a joke and sends a pilot just over the river and gets themselves shot down into ISIS territory. See how they play that one.

Brayden Reyes
Brayden Reyes

I imagine the headlines will read something like NAKED RUSSIAN AGGRESSION DOWNS AMERICAN PILOT IN ISIS TERRITORY, TRUMP VOWS SWIFT REPRISALS ON TWITTER

Jack King
Jack King

Russia can do no wrong to the US from here on in my eyes, they said a while ago that if the US puts boots down in Syria it will be treated as a declaration of war. Now they're thinking about military bases and shooting down Syrian planes. Fuck them and fuck NATO.

Henry Hall
Henry Hall

Word

John Morales
John Morales

U.S. just shot down "an Iranian-made Syrian drone"

Dylan Foster
Dylan Foster

doesn't post a link
ebin

Justin Ross
Justin Ross

sorry, just saw it on tv
https://twitter.com/moneyries/status/877151294993178624

Gavin Johnson
Gavin Johnson

further confirmation
https://www.rt.com/usa/393219-us-aircraft-drone-syria/

An Iranian-made drone was shot down by a US F-15 fighter jet in southern Syria, near At Tanf, the US-led coalition said. It is the fifth time in the past month the US has struck at forces allied with the Syrian government in the area.
An armed Shaheed-129 UAV “displayed hostile intent and advanced on Coalition forces” at 12:30 am local time on Tuesday, the coalition said in a statement. The drone was observed in the same area where another UAV was shot down on June 8.

Eli James
Eli James

If the bombs drop before I get off work, it was nice shit posting with you all.

Alexander Ramirez
Alexander Ramirez

I come to wooswoos threads for the qts

Colton Collins
Colton Collins

i dont even care anymore. just let it end fam

Jack Jenkins
Jack Jenkins

I know that feel.

Nolan Gonzalez
Nolan Gonzalez

What's somewhat worrying is that the Syria situation seems to be out of control. Either the US is trying to talk out both sides of its mouth, or there's no clear directive from whoever's in charge. First they shoot down a jet, then say they want to de-escalate, keep the channels open, etc, and then they shoot down a drone. That seems like the exact opposite of "de-escalation."

Christopher Barnes
Christopher Barnes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYE84KgOPXY

Jordan Anderson
Jordan Anderson

What movie is that webm from?

David Foster
David Foster

Boku no Battletron: Legacy of Suzumiya

Henry Turner
Henry Turner

Two-houR lOng chase sequeNce: Legacy

Dominic Lewis
Dominic Lewis

Dankon.

Christian Adams
Christian Adams

tfw someone saved my webm

Jacob Hughes
Jacob Hughes

Who is this semen demon?

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