Life inside the 'coffin cubicles' of Hong Kong

Hunter Phillips
Hunter Phillips

Life inside the 'coffin cubicles' of Hong Kong

All urls found in this thread:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_country,_two_systems
http://criticallegalthinking.com/2013/05/14/accelerate-manifesto-for-an-accelerationist-politics/
http://markfisherreblog.tumblr.com/post/32522465887/terminator-vs-avatar-notes-on-accelerationism
https://vimeo.com/75534042
Lincoln Butler
Lincoln Butler

They voluntarily agreed to live there. It's their fault for not getting a better job.

Josiah Watson
Josiah Watson

Proof that accelerationism simply doesn't work.
China is hell of a lot worse than other countries and the proles just tough it out.

Nathan Price
Nathan Price

Those could almost be comfy if they weren't so awful and cramped.

Isaiah Scott
Isaiah Scott

China

Caleb Perez
Caleb Perez

Did anyone say cyberpunk dystopia?

Lucas Garcia
Lucas Garcia

comfy af imo

Anthony Cooper
Anthony Cooper

Toilet right next to the kitchen
Dear god. Even Kowloon was probably not this horrible.

John White
John White

HOL UP

SO U BE SAYIN

THAT CRAMMIN MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN A TINY AZZ ISLAND IS A BAD IDEA AND SHIIEEEET ?!!

Liam Williams
Liam Williams

They're not "coffins", they're "residences of proletarian dimensions". China is communist. Praise Mao.

Chase Cruz
Chase Cruz

That can't be sanitary.

Xavier Martin
Xavier Martin

I'd hate to be inside there when a fire starts, the door gets blocked from the melted padding and I get cooked alive.

Wyatt Hill
Wyatt Hill

Definitely unsafe and unhealthy but things being so cramped looks pretty comfy.
also they have smartphones so they can't complain :^)

Brayden Perry
Brayden Perry

it's not China dumbass

Brayden Robinson
Brayden Robinson

hong kong
not china
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_country,_two_systems
Praise deng xiaoping

Lucas Foster
Lucas Foster

i've always thought it would be pretty cool to live in kowloon tbh

you must get a rel close knit community living all together like that
i have literally never spoke to my neighbours and they have lived there for years feels isolated man

Mason Rodriguez
Mason Rodriguez

feels isolated man
Go to their house and invite them for a barbecue.

Tyler Barnes
Tyler Barnes

/cyb/ as fuck. I wish I had something like that in my area if only to save money because I can't imagine that being more than $50 a month here.

Ryder Ward
Ryder Ward

looks comfy xd

Bentley Stewart
Bentley Stewart

too awkward
i need social interaction forced upon me so I have a framework for communication outside of my control

Adrian Butler
Adrian Butler

because I can't imagine that being more than $50 a month here.
over a hundred dollars a month and the big mac index indicates that they make about half what americans make on avarage.

Adrian Hernandez
Adrian Hernandez

Actually it's a "Bedspace apartment"
They originated in post war Hong Kong, but I have seen pictures from mainland to.
In mainland they are secondary "homes" used by people that work at factories that are in other provinces than their residency, you can't just move to another part of the country, that requires all kinds of government permissions, but not all provinces can offer work to all their inhabitants. Renters stack these boxes on top of each other in apartments so you can fit 16 people in a one room apartment, it's really cheap so factory workers can afford the rent and still send money back home to their family.
Hong Kong is still worse, there they are used by immigrants and people even raise children in these things.

No, and these aren't the worst ones. The shitty ones are just pet cages stacked on top of each other. "Spill a drink" in the top bunk and it goes straight thorough to the other two beneath you. Mosquitoes, fleas and lice love it there.

Gavin Sullivan
Gavin Sullivan

How do workers in Hong Kong, South Korea, Japan, etc. make so little money compared to Western countries? No minimum wage or something?

Benjamin Kelly
Benjamin Kelly

I'd be okay with that if I lived in Hong Kong. Even with a good job the money getting saved would be worthwhile. Not that I think it's okay because I'm sure most people living in these hate it.

Kayden Smith
Kayden Smith

Much lower minimum wage. South Korea actually has a pretty low cost of living compared to Japan and Hong Kong though.

Owen Reed
Owen Reed

It can't be that low, I read that SK has things like elder prostitutes etc. and a lot of young Koreans want to get the fuck out of Korea

Jaxon White
Jaxon White

If these were like 20% bigger so there could be a seperation of the toilet from everything else, even if just by a wall or glass pane, they'd be okay. Hell if I lived in a huge sprawling city I'd probably out and about 90% of the day anyways, so I'd have no use to pay for a big apartment. Not sure about Hong Kong but lots of asian countries have an eat-out culture where if you make enough money it's actually cheaper to go to a street vendor instead of paying for a kitchen+ingredients+electricity.

Parker Edwards
Parker Edwards

Probably depends where you live. I only know it's cheaper because my Korean friend is from there. Maybe cheap for an American and expensive for someone actually working a normal wage there.

Benjamin Brooks
Benjamin Brooks

How outrageous! xd

Kayden Bailey
Kayden Bailey

So much for the free market

Connor Jackson
Connor Jackson

a house vs. a box

Cameron Sanchez
Cameron Sanchez

I'd rather just have a separate public restroom to use. Would save room and I wouldn't have to think about sleeping next to a toilet.

Easton Stewart
Easton Stewart

Why can't everyone just live like us!

Caleb Hill
Caleb Hill

ebin xddd

Samuel Peterson
Samuel Peterson

because they can't afford it, people live for decades in these boxes, and it's not because they just decided they didn't need it.
..can't tell if your shit-posting or a genuine retard.

John Turner
John Turner

I work in retail and our janitors trying to keep our 3 stalls clean during the 10 hours we're open is hard enough, I can't imagine living in a community of hundreds where everytime someone had to take a shit it was in a publica area.

Parker Robinson
Parker Robinson

If it was cheap I wouldn't mind living in a place like that; I mean, if you're in a city like Hong Kong or San Francisco with lots of cool things to do (many of them for free or very cheap), why would you be inside anyway?

Obviously it's not a place to raise children in but many american cities sorely need apartment construction and many workers and students would benefit from them.

Robert Perry
Robert Perry

Worst part is there isn't even any ventilation.

Chase Peterson
Chase Peterson

The life you live and neighbourhood you live in isn't sustainable.

.can't tell if your shit-posting or a genuine retard.

You can't even spell m8. Maybe it's time to re-evaluate things.

Christopher Clark
Christopher Clark

If everyone in the world lived like you did, then world temperature would soar to critical in 1/4 of the time.

Gavin Parker
Gavin Parker

hong kong has more pollution than usa
we need a smaller population, not smaller homes
muh genocide
sterilize the shitskins and trailer-trash, no need to kill anyone

Jaxson Davis
Jaxson Davis

Didn't know eco fascists even existed here.
Figures.

John Morales
John Morales

Worst Korea also has literal India/Brazil tier slums though.

Jackson Mitchell
Jackson Mitchell

My point was,
having a million people living in mansions
would be better for the planet than
7 billion people living in these "homes"

Jaxon Perez
Jaxon Perez

See

Gabriel Torres
Gabriel Torres

Agreed, but having a planet with only a million people living in mansions doesn't justify genocide vs the rest.

Julian Sullivan
Julian Sullivan

My person has little to do with it, but you are wrong, everyone could probably live like I do just fine. I don't consume much, don't work much, don't use a car, and I rarely travel.
And even if you where right it doesn't change the fact that these people aren't living in boxes to ease the environment, on the contrary they are living in boxes so that capitalists can produce cheaper consumer items to export to other parts of the world. Are you seriously saying that we should combat global warming by denying poor people dignity and living conditions that are sanitary?

Matthew Wright
Matthew Wright

more pics please

Levi Gomez
Levi Gomez

My person has little to do with it

Statistically, as in people browsing this board, It very much so does. I'm not concerned about you, rather your demographic.

doesn't change the fact that these people aren't living in boxes to ease the environment,

No shit? I never said that was the intention of the occupants to be aware of their carbon footprint. But I do know that these places are a hell of a lot cheaper and more efficient way to live.

Are you seriously saying that we should combat global warming by denying poor people dignity and living conditions that are sanitary?

Not really, since the demographic I'm talking about aren't poor people.

Nolan Martin
Nolan Martin

you want to live in a box?

Brayden James
Brayden James

yeah if it means we don't have to live underwater or on Mars.

Chase Campbell
Chase Campbell

both sound better than a box

Christopher Russell
Christopher Russell

What makes you think you're invited to either? Will you pimp off your little boypussy to the rich?

Jordan Hall
Jordan Hall

Accelerationist are fucking retards, by thier logic the holocaust was for the best.

Josiah Garcia
Josiah Garcia

acclerationism is fukin dank homie

shift to the right
this will help lead to the revolution

shift to the left
the revolution is underway class consciousness rising

you literally never feel bad about anything

Jason Diaz
Jason Diaz

by thier logic the holocaust was for the best.
the event that discredited the far-right globally for decades and continues to discredit them to day (see muh holohoax maymays)
not for the best

Oliver Ross
Oliver Ross

Real-life capsule hotels actually aren't that bad. They usually will have all of the amenities of a normal hotel, just concentrated in more public spaces rather than each room being fitted with them. If living spaces like the ones showcased in Hong Kong would be converted to be more like capsule hotels (assuming that space restrictions necessitate such restrictive space usage), it wouldn't even be that bad; it would essentially be like living in a dormitory.

Brayden Reed
Brayden Reed

I would hate living in there obviously and u all saying its comfy are deluded but I'd prefer it between the two options of paying $800 per month for a studio apartment and living with my mom

Samuel Perry
Samuel Perry

i've lived in a van my whole 20's so this is really familiar to me. it's really hard to concentrate when youre super poor so good on them for reading. it used to be cool to run a laptop off of the battery and use a hotspot for internet but i got tired of working 40 hrs a week wageslaving just to sustain that.
i just want free rent and education already and for people to live socially

Jonathan Campbell
Jonathan Campbell

They might unable to stand up, but unlike mainlanders, he lives free.

Checkmate, Statists.

Charles Clark
Charles Clark

Please, please go to working class Hong Kongers that it's actually better that they live cramped ratholes because suburbia is like bad maaan

This is your brain on edge.

Gavin Martinez
Gavin Martinez

For the last time acceleration is not about making fucking life miserable. It's about recognizing that advances in technology and material changes that drive the core of society through production are central to social change, and that therefore we should sacrifice everything to make post-scarcity as unavoidable as possible.

I seriously wish I could shoot some of you dipshits.

Jack Harris
Jack Harris

holy shit my prison cell was bigger than that

Austin Bennett
Austin Bennett

I thought they were appealing to NEETs
but this whole time they were actual trying to appeal to serfs

Anthony Morgan
Anthony Morgan

Hell if I lived in a huge sprawling city I'd probably out and about 90% of the day anyways
It does not work that way. If all you can afford is a coffin, then you are not going to be able to do anything fun around town anyway.

Benjamin Hughes
Benjamin Hughes

Statistically, as in people browsing this board
we have statistics relating to anonymous imageboard users
Anytime anyone says this you can be certain that their point is bullshit.

Sebastian Young
Sebastian Young

If all you can afford is a coffin, then you are not going to be able to do anything fun around town anyway.
good point

Hudson Jackson
Hudson Jackson

Hey, blame the anons who are using it in the same way as "4D chess" to suck up to porky.

Owen Thomas
Owen Thomas

googled "architecture of density"
Holy Moses. Hong Kong is an argument for forced relocations.

Camden James
Camden James

Oh, no!! Cooking in the bathroom…

Landon Bailey
Landon Bailey

More people will have to learn to live within these means as we move towards globalization due to overpopulation.

I don't see the issue. There are people out there living on the ground with no belongings at all. It's pretty good because everyone will get one. We should be celebrating.

Jason Clark
Jason Clark

The point is how capitalists (especially lolbertarians and ancraps) praise Hong Kong as some kind of capitalist success. It obviously is not when looking at the pictures.

Jackson Williams
Jackson Williams

hong kong is so based, and capitalist xddd

Gabriel Phillips
Gabriel Phillips

People are living out of storage units in the US. This is actually a problem for the first world.

Wyatt Scott
Wyatt Scott

i'll have to admit at least one thing to /lefty/ even if im not that fond of it
this is what individualism does to a person

Jackson Baker
Jackson Baker

people being forced to live in crammed boxes due to poverty is the same as some fucking nerds living in normal-sized rooms

Josiah Murphy
Josiah Murphy

This.

Liam Foster
Liam Foster

yes

Caleb Scott
Caleb Scott

as some fucking nerds living in normal-sized rooms
showing your true colors, i see!

Dylan Ross
Dylan Ross

did that guy shit in his trash can in the second pic?

Joshua Davis
Joshua Davis

These rooms are filthy and crammed, the pics in OP are only crammed. Pathetic.

Christopher Allen
Christopher Allen

Old Milwaukee

Jaxson Howard
Jaxson Howard

not really, this is mostly garbage and consumerist shit piled on, while those guys in hong kong have everything a house would have in a very small space

Grayson Nguyen
Grayson Nguyen

what do you think happen :^)

Sebastian Brooks
Sebastian Brooks

This. I'll never understand how most anons on this board can misuse the term when it's so easy to just google Left Accelerationism and read the wiki page.

Jack Scott
Jack Scott

I Think hes an alcoholic and thats his pukebucket,

Anthony Torres
Anthony Torres

Idk fam, looking at these pics makes me feel massively depressed.

This is the future ancaps want.

Nathan Thomas
Nathan Thomas

this is mostly garbage and consumerist shit piled on
*individualism, user.
check that spelling

Connor Watson
Connor Watson

At best. We can only hope.

Elijah Stewart
Elijah Stewart

Fuck off fascist.

Mason Turner
Mason Turner

Rude

Austin Lopez
Austin Lopez

individualism
spook

Mason Hernandez
Mason Hernandez

I can only be an individual through consumerism
Capitalist ideology at its finest.

Kevin Rogers
Kevin Rogers

Henry Russell
Henry Russell

are you trying to make a point?

Adrian Nelson
Adrian Nelson

Also, obligatory link to Srnicek and Williams Accelerationist Manifesto.

http://criticallegalthinking.com/2013/05/14/accelerate-manifesto-for-an-accelerationist-politics/

Jeremiah Bennett
Jeremiah Bennett

nah just here to remind what imageboards are.

Kayden Johnson
Kayden Johnson

I read some of that the other day and got the impression that that was a sort of addendum to left accelerationist thought.

Carson Wright
Carson Wright

don't forget to click on ads

Eli Wright
Eli Wright

or look at that laptop or computer screen.

Christopher Butler
Christopher Butler

just a thought.

Lincoln Howard
Lincoln Howard

just admit that you've consumed

Alexander Fisher
Alexander Fisher

posts some shitty version of the old "you use things under capitalism may may" and act smug about it
So you don't have a point.
That's good to know.

Ryan Watson
Ryan Watson

I also don't see myself as an individual because of the products I consume, which was the point, but I guess you missed that lel

Jason Rogers
Jason Rogers

do not feel guilty my friend, we are always at your side

Cameron Peterson
Cameron Peterson

A lot pf people choose to live like that. I have friends that live on conditions similar to that.

One lives with his mother and two sisters in a place that looks like He has a decent job and his mother works in HR so money is not a problem, they all sleep in one room because second room is inhabitable (they can make it habitable) and one room had electrical and water problems and was a fucking mess that they wont clean up. Me and my father offered to wire the second floor and add windows, but they just give a fuck even tough they hate their living conditions and the stress of using a 5x5 meter room for everything. They are not the only family i know that lives like that.

You have to understand that if people want to live like that nothing will stop them.

Benjamin Rodriguez
Benjamin Rodriguez

That it's immiserationist? Honestly Communization Theory flirts a lot more with impossiblism and catastrophism. If anything Accelerationism has a lot more in common with Soviet-style Productivism, it's kind of like a reclaiming of all the optimism that the Left had about technology and science in the early 20th Century, like a return to High Modernism.

Angel Thompson
Angel Thompson

Why would I feel guilty?
I'm not spooked by consumerism.

Anthony Nelson
Anthony Nelson

No, I meant that it was like a modification of traditional accelerationist thought. That the manifesto saw some problems with the way accelerationism had been thought about and they sought to amend some of the ideas. What do you think?

Carter Moore
Carter Moore

They talk about crises like climate change and economic collapses as openings for Socialists, but they aren't saying that it's a good thing because proles will revolt, they just pointing out that various NeoLiberal hegemonies will grow increasingly weaker as they fail to respond effectively to the political demands of this century, which is already happening as we speak, and if Socialists don't manage to create a meaningful alternative to NeoLiberalism Fascists are going to probably be the one's to swoop in and fill in the gaps. Now things aren't that bad yet, but in a decade or two they certainly could be far worse then we could even imagine at this time.

Kayden Reed
Kayden Reed

I know it says something about how shitty the living conditions there are, but honestly because of my semi-asceticism I don't see these as a problem. There's not a solid reason why you'd need a house or even a regular apartment if you live alone. These coffins look like they have all the necessities, so I don't see why not having useless, empty space is bad.

Carter Murphy
Carter Murphy

I don't care who you are, you shouldn't shit where you eat.

Christian Bailey
Christian Bailey

Good post, comrade.

Lucas Brooks
Lucas Brooks

The interiors of bathrooms are no more dirty than any other room.

Asher Jackson
Asher Jackson

It's the fecal particles that worry me.

Charles Murphy
Charles Murphy

Oh, sorry, I totally misunderstood what you meant. But yeah, the origins of Accelerationism are pretty reactionary, like Nick Land, but Left Accelerationism is so different in it's goals and outlook that it's almost strange to compare them. Nick Land really does think it's genuinely good that human life is being completely atomized and absorbed by Capital, he thinks it's fine that Global Capital and the algorithms that manifest it's will have become completely disconnected from anything close to human agency, but he sure as fuck doesn't think there's any kind of light at the end of that tunnel, least of all some kind of proletarian revolution. I think Srnicek and Williams read a lot of Marx, Lyotard, Deleuze, and Land and wanted to write a more contemporary Leftist theory of how technology can be made to be liberatory.

Nathaniel Martinez
Nathaniel Martinez

That's fucking disgusting, user. I'm not sure where you're from where you can justify that shit (literally), but that's a no no where I'm from. Not sure if you live in tight quarters because of capitalism like HongKongfags.

Landon Diaz
Landon Diaz

That makes sense.

Oliver Thompson
Oliver Thompson

First pic is from shedanon/shednigger from 4/g/, I think the 3rd picture is also him. Never really knew him (don't frequent /g/ all that much). I think he was kicked out of the house and just started living in his parents shed. I don't think he post on /g/ anymore.

Connor Torres
Connor Torres

Here's a fantastic essay on Accelerationism by the late, great Mark Fisher, I think any user would like it, especially because Fisher is very much lowkey /ourguy/

http://markfisherreblog.tumblr.com/post/32522465887/terminator-vs-avatar-notes-on-accelerationism

Robert Barnes
Robert Barnes

You can't become sick from your own shit (which isn't present outside the toilet bowl and anything you might've touched with your dirty hands)

Caleb Phillips
Caleb Phillips

I don't know user. I'm not OCD about that shit (again, literally), but I don't want to risk it.

Nathaniel Lopez
Nathaniel Lopez

Thanks! I just bookmarked it.

Aiden Bailey
Aiden Bailey

Talk about shitting where you sleep. You're literally shitting where you eat and sleep.

Aiden Edwards
Aiden Edwards

tfw you live in a city thats super expensive but not metropolis-tier like Seoul/HK/Tokyo-tier that you can rent a cheap 1 room cubicle to live in
mfw i have to pay massive fees to live somewhere thats far too big for me with a heavy price tag

Ian Lewis
Ian Lewis

tfw you live in a city thats super expensive

Anthony Stewart
Anthony Stewart

No problem comrade. I shill for Fisher any time I get the chance!

Mason Anderson
Mason Anderson

This
Maybe MLs are right…

Isaac Richardson
Isaac Richardson

All that clutter would drive me insane, honestly.

Sebastian Parker
Sebastian Parker

Same here, user. Same here.

Landon Wood
Landon Wood

https://vimeo.com/75534042

Music video for thread

Logan Rogers
Logan Rogers

This, it's a fresh coat of paint on the 'muh iphones' maymay, made even lower-energy by the fact that 90% of people hate the shit out of their ISP

Hunter Moore
Hunter Moore

The heat helps kill the bacteria there, I guess.

user, that's a different but related issue: alienation. Industrial society in general has a problem with this, and capitalism amplifies it. We're too isolated and devoid of community. The poor fuckers on the cages, however, suffer material oppression. But then again, to some degree, almost everyone is a victim of capitalism.

Mason Collins
Mason Collins

That's the thing user, they wouldn't live in those conditions if they weren' already broken.

F

I'm fairly sure you don't want your gut bacteria to reach your mouth.

Nick Land really does think it's genuinely good that human life is being completely atomized and absorbed by Capital, he thinks it's fine that Global Capital and the algorithms that manifest it's will have become completely disconnected from anything close to human agency, but he sure as fuck doesn't think there's any kind of light at the end of that tunnel, least of all some kind of proletarian revolution.
What the fuck? He just wants us to become drones as soon as possible because he thinks it's inevitable?

There's a difference between a tiny, modest house and that. Living too long in such a small space with several other people and amidst such rubbish no doubt would fuck with your mind.

user, they're literally sick people. Thinking they choose to live like that is like saying a man with the flu chooses to sneeze. They need therapy.

This is the future people who don't have to live in chose.

Levi Wright
Levi Wright

What a mess… They definitely should clean up their rooms.

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