Mike Pence wrote about being victimized by the movie Disney movie "Mulan" in...

Jace Anderson
Jace Anderson

Mike Pence wrote about being victimized by the movie Disney movie "Mulan" in 1999.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C7NSUFDHFgg
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Witches
Carter Lewis
Carter Lewis

is this real?

Ryder Price
Ryder Price

I know this word has been tainted by liberal idpol circles, but Pence is a genuine chauvinist.

Zachary Bailey
Zachary Bailey

it reads like it was written by every angry guy I knew in high school.

grrrr girls dont like me, they're dumb & weak!

Caleb Rivera
Caleb Rivera

He didn't even proofread the thing.

Jason Brown
Jason Brown

Sounds like he is just using the movie as a hook for a boring fanfiction about military orgies.

Gabriel Nelson
Gabriel Nelson

What's funnier is that Mulan is based on a legendary warrior-woman in Chinese history/legend

So he's upset that """liberals""" believe that women are capable in conflict from an animated movie based on a legend that's been believed/cherished by people for centuries

Nathan Baker
Nathan Baker

American conservatives hate tradition.

Connor Bailey
Connor Bailey

American conservatives are my allies now?

Luis Edwards
Luis Edwards

Me thinks

Look at this fedoralord

Tyler Harris
Tyler Harris

Pence gets triggered by Mulan
Molymeme and Jordon Peterson get triggered by Frozen
which right wing nutjob will Disney unintentionally trigger next?

Chase Morgan
Chase Morgan

The live action Mulan they're making at the moment probably

Noah Anderson
Noah Anderson

I'm always seeing conservatives whining about fiction, I dont pretend to understand why they even care.

reeeeee Harry Potter teaches teamwork & friendship, those evil fucking liberals are destroying our children! reeeee

Jacob Reed
Jacob Reed

disney are /ourguys/

Liam Jackson
Liam Jackson

Which I can't wait for personally, because people are just going to remind them that their "LEFTISTS BELIEVE WOMEN CAN FIGHT, I DON'T BELIEVE THIS" is in direct contradiction to

I suppose they can say that China has been open to """leftism""" for centuries or some shit

Connor Lewis
Connor Lewis

Speaking of Harry Potter, I had a friend growing up who wasn't allowed to read it or see the movies because his conservative parents said it taught kids evil satanic witchcraft. lmao

Lincoln Anderson
Lincoln Anderson

women can't war
Really makes the thinker tinker

Noah Lewis
Noah Lewis

When I was a boy, the parents freaked out about Doom. They never seemed to care that the player is the good guy, KILLING the evil demons.

Grayson Long
Grayson Long

I suppose they can say that China has been open to """leftism""" for centuries or some shit
Of course they will, China is communist, the name of the Party says so.

Brayden Wright
Brayden Wright

tfw no Lyudmila Pavlichenko Disney movie

Jaxson Howard
Jaxson Howard

doesn't understand children's movies are meant to be idealistic because they're fucking children's movies

Pure autism.

Matthew Jones
Matthew Jones

Isn't it incredibly easy to prove that there's not much idealistic about the thing he has a problem with?

William Scott
William Scott

It's not even that it's idealistic, it's that the story itself has actual history to it. He's complaining people believe women can fight now, in the context of a story about a woman who was a soldier that's been told down through the centuries in China.

Liam White
Liam White

My grandma was talking about him yesterday and how it's right that he makes his wife go everywhere with him because of some weird Christian thing. Didn't make too much sense to me and just seemed like another method of control and wasn't very equal.

She defended it (since the media was unfairly attacking him or something for it).

I legitimately hate Mike Pence.

Parker Howard
Parker Howard

Similar thing happened with me and zatch bell, but my dad helped me out on that one.

Benjamin Morris
Benjamin Morris

I've seen so many people on chans sperg about this topic. Every time it baffles me like the first time. It's like they're actually trying to convince themselves that women can't fight. No idea why.

Owen Hernandez
Owen Hernandez

You too? This texas girl I know told me the same story.

Cooper Lee
Cooper Lee

Sometimes I wonder if American liberals are so insufferable because these totalitarian lunatics are their main exposure to different opinions.

Kevin Ramirez
Kevin Ramirez

Gave me goosebumps.

Caleb Rivera
Caleb Rivera

that's exactly the reason, remember how annoying atheists were back then?

american politics is a cancer upon the world

Aaron Turner
Aaron Turner

the party where 20% of the membership wants to bomb Agrabah is triggered by yet another Disney movie

Is anyone really surprised?

Luke Wood
Luke Wood

Disney should just make a Joan d'Arc movie AND THEY BETTER NOT INCLUDE A LOVE INTEREST just to shut them up.

Ethan Taylor
Ethan Taylor

Women can't fight though. At best they can be in some odd auxiliary positions.

Zachary Roberts
Zachary Roberts

Women can fight just fine, especially in modern day warfare which is mainly just laying in concealed places waiting for the enemy to show up and try to hit them with bullets.

Physical combat and close quarters combat is just a small part of fighting and not many people are cut out for it, man or woman.

Landon Rodriguez
Landon Rodriguez

like pottery

Zachary Nguyen
Zachary Nguyen

Your average american soldier spends most of his time hiding behind walls waiting for air support. Women can do that just as easily as men can.

Samuel Collins
Samuel Collins

You don't need much upper body strength to use a firearm and call in air strikes.

Elite military positions that women can't do are also impossible for the vast majority of men.

Brody Gomez
Brody Gomez

That was pretty common during that time
t. had my harry potter books and pokemon cards burned

Julian Smith
Julian Smith

S A V A G E

Jaxson King
Jaxson King

It's actually 30%.

Xavier Gomez
Xavier Gomez

They can though you generally don't want them in mixed units. They do also have higher casualty rates. I don't know about special forces, but that's probably one area you'd only want them in support roles.

Nathaniel Cruz
Nathaniel Cruz

no but you need to be able to carry a full set of gear and be able to not let that slow you down lol

Lucas Hughes
Lucas Hughes

caring about dead soldiers

Honestly maybe Americans might stop invading fucking everyone if they knew that cute 18 year old blondes were going to get themselves blown to pieces in the process.

Colton Brown
Colton Brown

I don't really care. Just pointing out they have higher casualty rates than men. Americans would certainly be less on board with invading everyone if the TV actually showed dead soldiers and civilians.

Mason Lewis
Mason Lewis

cute girls dont join the military lmfao

Liam Allen
Liam Allen

Modern combat is just picking up a gun and pulling the trigger
What is moving supplies, ammunition, and equipment over long distances to get to the position which may be isolated with no resupply
What is a far higher rate of injury compared to men
What is differences in calorie intake and hormones
What is male for female defense drive
The soviets kept woman military personnel back for a reason and when they were forced to actually use them they lost a staggering amount of them

Parker Nguyen
Parker Nguyen

The soviets kept woman military personnel back for a reason and when they were forced to actually use them they lost a staggering amount of them

Wonder who else lot a staggering number of soldiers per sniper

Nathaniel Reyes
Nathaniel Reyes

Mike…….

John Adams
John Adams

I don't really care

Then why are you posting

Hudson Rodriguez
Hudson Rodriguez

Conservative Americans do this shit on a regular basis on a massive scale every single day
Then say we shouldn't let any Muslim refugees in cuz they'll install Sharia Law and destroy our freedoms

Austin Parker
Austin Parker

The Soviets had massive losses regardless of sex, they managed warfare like modern Russians play Dota.

Mason Williams
Mason Williams

Because Holla Forums is where I spend my time when I'm not working or sleeping.

Lucas Long
Lucas Long

Pavlichenko fought for about two and a half months near Odessa where she recorded 187 kills. She was promoted to Senior Sergeant in August 1941 when she reached 100 confirmed kills. When the Romanians gained control of Odessa on 15 October 1941, her unit was withdrawn by sea to Sevastopol on the Crimean Peninsula, where she fought for more than eight months. In May 1942 newly promoted Lieutenant Pavlichenko was cited by the Southern Army Council for killing 257 German soldiers. Her total of confirmed kills during World War II was 309, including 36 enemy snipers.
In 1941–1945 a total of 2,484 Soviet female snipers were deployed for the war and their combined tally of kills is estimated to be at least 11,280

Cameron Collins
Cameron Collins

Dota
Quit playing that casual shit and pick up Quake.

Sebastian Roberts
Sebastian Roberts

The soviets kept woman military personnel back for a reason and when they were forced to actually use them they lost a staggering amount of them

Lmfao no they didn't that is absolute bullshit. They put them in as snipers and they killed well over twice the number of the snipers on the field. At least five times over.

Mason Gutierrez
Mason Gutierrez

no but you need to be able to carry a full set of gear and be able to not let that slow you down lol

Gee I wonder who could do that

Cooper Bell
Cooper Bell

modern warfare is cuck warfare tho
how many rifles do you see with attached bayonets?
killing should be close and personal
like in the Great War's trench warfare when bayonet was the best friend of a soldier

Christopher Cook
Christopher Cook

One outlier out of about 2500 snipers, of which only 500 survived
Females were constantly kept back by the Soviets and when they were moved up, most were made sure to be heavily covered and moved out of direct engagement. It was mostly the men who filled most sniper roles, like Ivan Sidorenko, who killed the most comparatively to percent total losses.

As a result, when war broke out in 1941, the state rejected thousands of female volunteers eager to defend the motherland on the front lines. Even after the creation of all-female and mixed-gender combat units, some female soldiers were relegated to the rear. Women of the 1st Separate Women’s Volunteer Rifle Brigade, assigned to domestic service detail, became frustrated by their lack of combat action and requested to be sent to the front. When these requests were denied, many deserted to the front to fight for the fatherland; if caught, the deserters were severely punished.

Many women were unprepared for the harsh living conditions and tense gender relations they faced in combat units. Others were recruited despite the fact that they were ill, pregnant, unqualified, or unfit for military service. Some female soldiers struggled to adapt to military life, leading them to resort to extreme measures such as desertion or suicide. The Soviet military attributed these drastic actions to personal failings.

Kayden Gray
Kayden Gray

Females were constantly kept back by the Soviets and when they were moved up, most were made sure to be heavily covered and moved out of direct engagement

That isn't weakness that is called strategy.

It was mostly the men who filled most sniper roles

No one is denying this. However saying the snipers of the soviet union who were women weren't effective soldiers is utterly preposterous and reeking of agenda

Stop posting

Christian Morgan
Christian Morgan

I don't care how we do it, but congressmen/leaders should be required to fight on the front lines of any war they start.

Wyatt Johnson
Wyatt Johnson

That wasn't "one" outlier either, women were highly effective snipers, some scoring deaths within the range normally of around 300+

Wyatt Walker
Wyatt Walker

Disrespecting the snipers of the red army

Wyatt Thompson
Wyatt Thompson

So women that wanted to fight were denied and some that didn't were forced to. That tells me the Soviet's managed recruitment poorly more than anything.

Carter Fisher
Carter Fisher

18
Height of sexual potential

Thanks, I hadn't had my daily "laugh at Amerifats" moment today.

James Bennett
James Bennett

women can't be allowed in the military because all of our soldiers are rapists
pray for our brave boi soldiers they dindu nuffin

I hate my fucking country.

Ryder Butler
Ryder Butler

That's what nobody in this thread is talking about. That Pence is saying "Yes, military rape is happening, but the solution isn't punishing the troops that do that"

Like what in the fuck, what kind of troops does he think a nation should even have? Isn't that "disrespecting the troops", the highest republican sin, to suggest they're all mindless rapists?

And all of this over a fucking animated Disney movie about an old Chinese legend, he apparently doesn't know existed.

Caleb Price
Caleb Price

Male snipers weren't afforded as much and still did comparatively better even when they moved directly with there units
Some, and still comparatively less well percentage wise to the men when losses were factored in.
Stalin's policies held that women’s patriotic duty did not include combat until it became absolutely necessary and that it was in fact a great duty to serve as support and complete the necessary duties at home such as agriculture which was extremely necessary during the war as the men could not work the fields.

Cooper Morris
Cooper Morris

Some, and still comparatively less well percentage wise to the men when losses were factored in.

That's actually flat out not true. Many women of the red army were fucking annihilating nazis with support by men.

You have to work as a team to counter the the problems women have with the problems men have. And really, more than enough women who killed hundreds of nazi soldiers in this situation more than enough proves that women can be capable of fighting.

It requires strategy and the right basic training, but a strong military force NEVER actually says "You're weak go away", it counters each weakness and works together as a unit.

It's what they did and in many cases it was successful above and beyond.

Disrespecting the legacies of Red Army snipers who gave their lives to mow down a bunch of nazi fucks is low man. They deserve all the historical credit for their achievements

Nathaniel Campbell
Nathaniel Campbell

Good post

Lucas Anderson
Lucas Anderson

This is Life in America.

football players raped some girls? nah the team needs to win, pardon 'em
cops beat a guy to death? well he once stole a candy bar, he deserved to die

Carter Baker
Carter Baker

Sure, go ahead and respect what they did, I have no problem with that. Just don't act like that's somehow a justification for throwing woman out into combat when you have a surplus of men who can do it better. Woman were only used when it became necessary to, not because Stalin looked down and thought "Hey, wouldn't it be nice if we put some women in the army". Its not about proving capability, its basic biological differences that put men in a better position.

Elijah Edwards
Elijah Edwards

If a woman wants to fight I don't see any good reason to not let her.

Owen Lopez
Owen Lopez

This. I've been cringing at all "we're like living in Handmaid's Tale guise I mean it" shit lately but Mike Pence would genuinely try to make that shit a reality imo.

Jace Rogers
Jace Rogers

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C7NSUFDHFgg

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Witches

Isaac Barnes
Isaac Barnes

Resources
Losing someone in the field or having someone get injured is a lot more then leaving them in the dirt or telling them to walk it off. You need to allocate resources as efficiently as you can during war, not just let things happen because its nice or "The right thing to do". If a woman wants to be a pilot or work in some indirect military position then fine, but ground combat (snipers do move with the unit) should mostly be left to men.

Jason Long
Jason Long

LET'S GET DOWN TO BUSINESS

Joseph Green
Joseph Green

Yeah, no we wouldn't, a lot of people here want blood, at least they do here in Penceland.

Juan King
Juan King

TO DEFEAT THE HUNS

Joseph Miller
Joseph Miller

It was largely footage from the Vietnam war that pushed public opinion against it. I guess the high causalities didn't help either.

Jason Gray
Jason Gray

That reminds me - the Socialist Party of America right before the US entered WWI (and it was still "unsure" about entering) one of their candidates ran on a platform that would make all decisions on going to war decided on a vote by all citizens & if the country goes to war the soldiers will come from those who voted "yes."

Elijah Kelly
Elijah Kelly

You misunderstood my post

Reread it

William Garcia
William Garcia

It was mostly the draft. We need to bring back the draft so every single young person and their families have a stake in war. But the capitalists will never make that mistake again.

Austin Mitchell
Austin Mitchell

Thucydides's History of the Peloponnesian War should really be required reading for anyone who thinks such a strategy is a panacea for war, particularly the section on the war with Syracuse. The voting populace of Athens was manipulated by a skillful and foolish orator into thinking that they could go across the Mediterranean and take on another democracy in the middle of war with Sparta, and they paid dearly for it.

Isaac Walker
Isaac Walker

So which one of you here posted this to Reddit

Kayden Powell
Kayden Powell

The problem with Soviet snipers is that they likely inflated their numbers like crazy (they were allowed to raise up morale) and literally made up shit, like the whole sniper Konig story. Not that all sides didn't do it, but the Soviets didn't even bothered to make airtight stories.

Luis Sanders
Luis Sanders

Possible reddit spacing >>1785667

Jacob Price
Jacob Price

Posted where?

Brandon Carter
Brandon Carter

/r/ChapoTrapHouse/

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