Is anyone here a moderate Leftist? That is, someone who supports a welfare state with maximum individual liberty...

Is anyone here a moderate Leftist? That is, someone who supports a welfare state with maximum individual liberty? Or are you all Communists?

you need to read more

plenty of succdems around here, depending on who you ask.

Is it really that hard to read the sticky?

Try actually reading

a lot of internet dwellers are basically babies who need direction or else they are scared and confused. so yes it is that hard for them

It's been Authoritarian historically.

Communism has never been achieved. There are different forms of leftist ideology that almost all aim to achieve communism.

But Hitler was a lefty and he hated communism.

Just stop, mate.

hitler was a traitor and a retard

If you're not a communist you're not a leftist.

we call those people succdems and nobody really likes them

They never claimed to have implemented communism, but rather to be building towards communism. That's why it was the USSR and not the UCSR.

So, in your mind, what is communism? You are clearly well read on the matter.

It's authoritarian until the state can wither away and lead to what's essentially anarchism.


Oh wait it's one of these threads nevermind

Socdem with weed LMAO characteristics and swedish prisons.

That was the before me. Stay here a while friend. Discover the joys of a society without private property.

Read Marx

Read mein kampf.
He always said he wanted to achieve a socialist state without the revolutionary aspect that Communists focused on. I think he saw communists as frivolous for that reason.

then why did he kill his comrades

oh right he is traitorous scum

can't say nothing when your mouth is full of corporate cock :^)

Who gives a shit? I'm more concerned with what he did. Which entailed killing off any semblance of class consciousness in his shithole of a party, privatization on a massive scale, and the destruction of workers rights.
Read anything.

Well the more socialist you are the more you need a state to enforce the rules.

If we lived under communism, and there was a shortage of metals, you would need a powerful state to force people to work down the mines. Otherwise nobody would do the job. Everyone would pick a nice job like a philosopher or entertainer.

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That would make you center-right or as dorks would say "left-wing of capital"

You're either producing for use or you're not. There are no degrees of socialism.
If we lived in a communist society that would imply that class has been abolished which renders the state immaterial.

organization =/= a state

I'm an anarchist

*trying to impress you* i am also deeply mentally retarded

That's not impressive at all… You should seek help!

im posting on this board arent i???

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Who gives a shit? I'm more concerned with what they did. Which entailed killing off any respectability for communism by creating 1984 IRL in his shithole of a country, famines on a massive scale, and the destruction of ANY rights, be it personal property, privacy and holding thought crimes.

Read anything.

I'm extremely far left in some ways, while being an extreme liberal in others. I'm not sure any of my views count as moderate.

If you support private property you're not left at all.