US has regressed to developing nation status, MIT economist warns

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Good. Once Americans are living like their third world brethren the revolution will begin.

Is that you, Jason?

Are there any BR or Hispanic anons here? Tell me, given the events of the past year, do people over there still want to emulate the US, both economically and culturally?

and like clockwork, Trashbol is here to jizz all over it

I always have a good laugh when reactionaries bring up Venezuela. I would love to take those same reactionaries to Newark, Detroit, Baltimore and West Philadelphia where infrastructure lies in total ruins. These places look like war zones (and in some ways they literally are).

I am amazed I am referenced here and from a different thread no less.

They would just say

Memezuela here, yes. Neoliberalism will save us guys. Frankly most acquaintances of mine are not exactly proletarians, most being the sons of the petty bourgeois, but people believe delusions about how this country will be solved either through muh Perez Jimenez, a dictator edgy children love to praise because we waz kangs in LatAm and shiet.

On the other hand, you have the liberals believing that once we become a democracy we will start progressing away, disregarding the fact that this country has been meddled with to death. People will want to emulate that shithole.

No one seems interested in politics, the only person with a mildly serious position is a social democrat. Everyone else are liberals. Fuck this place.

America's economic decline started once niggers and women left thier place and got uppity

Edgy

We don't want to but we have no choice but to obey Uncle Sam or else we will get a coup or an economic embargo or some CIA shenanigans.

That said. I feel pretty bad for my burger comrades. Neoliberalism was a mistake.

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Seriously how is this a bad thing? America used to be class conscious as fuck.

I can't tell if these nazi posters are actually Holla Forums, Holla Forums pretending to be Holla Forums, or Holla Forums pretending to be Holla Forums pretending to be Holla Forums. I just can't quite pinpoint the level of irony here.

Mexico here, everyone's become way more nationalistic since Trump was elected. Liberals who like to ride the american model's dick have been rather quiet lately. It seems like populist social democrat Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador might have a chance of winning the presidency next year, an overwhelming majority of young people support him, he's somewhat of an opportunist, though. Our current president, Peña Nieto is pretty much universally despised by everyone, though you still have a lot of people who support the PRI, career politicians, corrupt businessmen, astroturf unions, the party built a whole infrastructure of support during their 70+ years in power so they are not going away soon.

Culturally, it's a whole other story. I grew up near the border, one of the most americanised parts of the country, malls fast food restaurants and all that. I have relatives in the US and often went there for shopping or vacations. Sometimes I feel like i'm more familiar with US pop culture than that of my own country.

Any chance of the populist taking on the cartels? or will it be business as usual?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

YES, THAT'S IT! LET IT BURN! LET IT ALL BURN, DOWN TO THE GROUND!

Seriously, what went wrong with the Mexican Revolution? It seemed like our chance for a socialist North America.

I AM SO FUCKING EXCITED

The economic center is shrinking, and most of the United States is getting left out in the cold.

Your mob will die of starvation and disease before you can convince them to enforce the second amendment

The liberal states will survive this.

petition to remove the nazi flag

I don't care. It's better to die fighting for your beliefs than to live a slave.

Maybe crashing America with no survivors is good for the rest of the world.

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This is good for America. The same thing will eventually happen to the rest of the world too. It's how capitalism works. This might mean a Socialist USA leads the world into the next stage of human advancement rather than holding it back.

This guy looks pretty cool though tbh

Not with that hat indoors and buttoning the top and bottom button of that jacket.

When the PRI was in power the cartels cooperated with the highest levels of government, which meant less bloodshed obviously. The drug war really started heating up under US pressure somewhere after 2006, it quickly devolved into a bloody free for all, the worst year was probably 2012, though some places are still literal warzones. 'Taking on the cartels' is a bad idea, imo, decriminalise drugs and end the arms trade.


The revolution ended in a sort of compromise between radicals and moderates. Syndicalist and communist movements were still pretty strong back then, couldn't be ignored by those in power. The one party state even flirted with Marxism during Lazaro Cardenas' mandate in the 30s, foreign oil companies where expropriated and many of the president's advisers were openly pro soviet. Things were rolled back after that, and by the 80s Mexico went full neoliberal.

based dickman?

What a twat, the opposite is clearly true. Blacks are oppressed to keep the proles down, not the other way around.

lol middle pic is by where i grew up

Based cuckman

as if crumbling infrastructure and dying citizens doesn't exist in appalachia

This.

West Virginia is a total hellhole and the state is 97% white.

Dude I can't wait until America becomes a third world country

Spectacular!

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As expected, since nationalism breeds more nationalism.

The death of America will be the death of liberalism and the global capitalist order. Without America capitalists will return to backstabbing each other for profit, which in turn will allow communist movements to play them off eachother in order to gain political power. This is going to be glorious.

MTW IS THE LIGHT COMRADES

To that they would say "Juden"

The South and Fly-Over Country already are.

Pax Americana is already dying.

If nothing else, the decades of geopolitical stagnation are finally over.

I have brought this up to Holla Forumstards and they always say "it's niggers being niggers, white people live better than europeans"

relatable

Meme-ist rebel news has some words: youtube.com/watch?v=jcNDlMmrJeo

Are you blind? They already do that constantly. That is what the whole Syrian conflict is.

YESSS

There won't be a revolution. It will be Judge Dredd tier. The population in American is too inbred and low I.Q

Wow it has only been a few months and Trump has already destroyed America. Holla Forumsyps BTFO!

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Anything to justify you not leaving your armchair huh?

This whole developed vs developing meme is retarded btw. Developed means a population with high income than average. So you can be Iceland a village shithole of a country being developed producing nothing of value compared to China which is developing as in the population has lower income on average but has advanced futuristic cities, high speed rail and technology most country's in Europ don't have

BEST DAY OF MY LIFE

Capitalism will first have to fall in the West while rising in the east and the global south and then these countries will transition from capitalism. Mark my words that will be what will happen

Lel

this fucking delusion

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Yeah west philly is pretty bad apart from the university area (drexel and penn)

North Philadelphia is an absolute wasteland

Top wew

WHY DIDN'T YOU LISTEN?

A literal rephrasing of the sentence you quoted.

America is a declining nation and society by all objective measures. It's riding off of their world war 2 gains and the global financial and military order established after world war 2. I mean it elected fucking Drumpf.

It's too big and too fragmented economically and culturally at this point it will break apart like the Ottoman Empire where a revolution will be possible in some areas and states but not in others

Lived near Newark for a time. Makes me sick seeing Booker held up as the savior of that city.

why wouldn't he? this board is anti-imperialist therefore the decay of american hegemony is to be celebrated. you are confused, not the NazBol meme poster

BR here, middle class cucks still sucking american dick and begging to sell the country. Prole are taking big blows with the recent changes to employment laws, so leftists movements are calling for a general strike on the 28 with followup at may 1st. If we are lucky it will stick and proles will get a bit mor conscious.

back to reddit with you

yeah, you're one of us

Someone could easily use this as an argument for why revolution should be impossible in imperial russia. So much sophistry. I take it you're a burger?

Drumpf

that shit turned out well, this is why you don't do revolutions in backwards declining shithoiles like Russia and America it happens organically in rising nations and societies that will transition from capitalism

Yeah because the soviets sure were reactionary and backwards institutions, and it totally didn't have anything to do with the usurption of their power by a certain party. Your ahistorical conception of revolution sure is compelling :^)

I honestly can't tell if this is shitposting or not. If you actually believe that revolutions will happen when the proletariat wakes up one day with class consciousness spontaneously…

Why don't you start organizing a party and revolution then you fucking degenerate opportunist and see how successful your 100 year slogans and symbology and strategy will be in the most reactionary brainwashed anti-communist society on the planet

Leftcommunism isn't even worth being thrown into the trashcan of hisory, it deserves to be hurled into a septic tank.

kek

Why are you such a little butthurt cuntickle fag whenever someone attempts to shatter you retarded shibboleths with rational analysis. Go educate and agitate and do something to improve working class conditions on a macro scale there won't be a October tier revolution in America that is just reality it won't happen a second time in the same way with the same results

USSA NOW

You make it entirely too easy to be smug. The fact that you're obviously bluttbasted while accusing me of being angry is just gravy

I'd like to point out that the majority of leftcoms on here are probably former anarkiddies who have found the next best edgiest, eye-grabbing thing. I highly doubt that any leftcom on Holla Forums have even read leftcom literature.

Out of all the accusations you could level at leftcoms that is possibly the least deserved - Marx heads, Lenin hats and Leftcoms are consistently the most well-read posters on this board.
I don't get the vitriolic leftcom hate; they are naturally smug and occasionally insufferable, but provide good critique of both their own positions as well as those of other leftist tendencies. They also provide much-needed comic relief.

My apologies. It's just that I see so many people shitposting under the leftcom flag that the well-written and detailed responses become drowned out in my head.

can we drop the fucking nukes already

I'd probably be considered something of a leftcom and it annoys me to no end when these retards circlejerk about their ebin armchairs because they don't know what "activism" actually means and that modern neoliberal times are the same as a century ago where there were international left-wing councils that made personal action redundant.

Please. Marxists in general make the amazing feat of being of both dogmatic and dishonest regarding their ideology at the same time, leftcoms and leninists being the best examples of this. Selective reading =/= well read

Did I ever tell you the definition of insanity?

Not surprised tbh


Dude all leftcoms are annoying but most of them actually know what they are talking about. You are just making shit points and then sperg out like this when you are btfo. kys my man.

For fucks sake this is actually Marxism 101, the first thing you learn in your first class at Karl Marx university son:

there is literally one way this can happen: either working conditions become so unberable that it triggers an uprising or the Capitalist mode of production changes from that of the modern mass consumption, financial globalization into something more conducive to making working conditions unbearable thus triggering an uprising. Everything else is just some kind of faggotry

I'm surprised it took economists this long to figure out that America has a two-track economy. Maybe someday they'll figure out that the lower 80% are, by and large, too stupid to work in finance, technology, and electronics, and are also made uncompetitive due to globalization, and formulate some sort of plan to employ them.


the scots-irish + deep south cultural combination is a disaster

STUMP MAOIST-THIRDWORLDISTS WITH THIS ONE SIMPLE TRICK: MAOISM-NEOLIBERALISM

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Constantly doing the same thing while expecting different results.

Granted, merica is a shithole by 21st century standards, but Russia before 1917 unironically had 14th century peasantry

It's a Dostoevsky novel over here friend. I met so many raskolnikovs trying to get my ass through community college that it's not even funny. Now they're all on meth or worse.
The bush, obama, and trump families are czars. Good old Ural mountain silver.
It's still 1917, we haven't moved an inch in a century.

What is this reverse third worldism?

UBERAKIST FIRST WORLDISM FOR LIFE