Sartre vs Camus

Which one was our /ourguy/?
If none, which one is better? Why?

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Maybe one day I will get around to reading Nausea but Myth of Sisyphus was trash and The Stranger was mediocre.

Sartre > Camus.

Read Search for a Meathod by the manlet. I think it would resonate with most non-tankies here. Mind you, I'm pretty sure that Camus was an anti-authoritarian leftist but I'm not very well versed in his politics…

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Sartre was our guy but

Camus' Absurdism > Sartre's Existentialism

Considering he stopped being friends with Sartre over his Stalin worship, that's probable.

Actually, Sartre dissed Camus for supporting colonialism.

Camus if you are an anarchist, and Sartre if you are a communist.

Btw Sartre didn't understand shit to Heidegger existentialism but absurdism > existentialism (imo).

If you wan't to get into Satre VS Camus thing, read "L'ordre libertaire, la vie philosophique d'Albert Camus" by Michel Onfray (even if it's not perfect)

Sartre is honestly my most hated philosopher, disgusting as fuck to see people shill for him here of a all places tbh

Is it true that Camus's death was no accident and that Stalinists did it?

Sartre hired one of the assassins working for Stalin to kill Camus because he was butthurt that Camus didn't worship Stalin

lel, Sartre was one of us

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Tbf Sartre did abandon his Stalinist beliefs later in life and leaned more towards anarchism. Though I should not that almost right before Sartre dropped dead he abandoned his radically anti-Zionist position and supported the existence of Israel which is pretty damn surprising since he basically defended about any violent action which he felt necessary in order to liberate Palestine from Israel.

Sartre hands down

Never trust Jews.

Source?

camus was a filthy white algerian colonizer. no source needed.

Camus. Sartre was a tankie and a humanist

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To be fair, so was Althusser.

Sartre is definitely /ourguy/ out of the two. Camus ditched communist politics and although he held socialist beliefs stopped getting involved after only a short amount of time. I don't think he even wrote that extensively on socialist ideas ever.

Sartre on the other hand founded Les Temps Modernes, the famous leftist political journal alongside other marxists, and was consistently engaged in the political world even through his shaky relationship with the French communist party who hated him and tried hard to tarnish his reputation as a leftist. He often went out in person to protests and anti-capitalist events. Yeah he became an anarchist later in life over being a communist, but I think even if you disagree with anarchism you can appreciate his contribution and efforts to anti-capitalism in general during his time.

Sartre also helped reconcile existentialist philosophy which was about radical human freedom with Marxist philosophy. IE people saw the two as inconsistent at first since existentialism was so much about embracing human freedom as the ultimate virtue, and people argued that Marxism was too collectivist and suppressed individual freedom in favour of a collective movement by using oppressive regimes and stuff. He pretty much destroyed this argument and was able to prove that Marxism and existential freedom were not only compatible but actually perfect for each other. I haven't got around to reading all of his book "Critique of Dialectical Reason" but I'm pretty sure he covers that extensively in there. His essay "Search for a Method" also deals with this idea in a way shorter length.

"Between Existentialism and Marxism" by Sartre, published by Verso books is a very handy collection of a bunch of his important essays and writings on Existential Marxism if you wan't to delve into that area of philosophy at all.