The logistics of a successful revolution

I have a question of how a work place would work under communism, lets say a gas station for example. The workers up and say "This is ours now" and they continue to run it under a communist mode, what would be necessary to keep the station working, how would decisions of management be made? And how would this theoretical gas station commune interact with the community at large?

Sorry if I am rambling or I don't look like i've read a fucking book, I still lack much knowledge but i've been intrigued to hear the explanation of how the work place and the logistics behind it would be like under communism / Transitory socialism.

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They decide on what to do democratically and negotiate terms with the people who supply oil

Read the cybernetics thread:

Well that's one of the issues. Marxists-Leninists were the only ones who had a working, large-scale model, with the whole full-nationalization, central-planning thing. Other experiments like Kekalonia, Rojava are/were too short-lived to see their economic viability.

Personally I think the cybernetics thing here has promise to bridge the gap between statists and anarchists.

A few broken eggs don’t matter. Think of the transition from economic models, it will be horrific.

Well all attempts so far but Allende's Chile happened during catastrophic wars, so their economies were already collapsed and were easier to transition to a whole different model. Now that I think about it, leftists kind of assume the next time will be like that too. Hmmm.

I confess I don't know how far Allende got with collectivizing ye olde means of production. I mean he was supposedly /ourguy/ and all but for all I know he didn't actually collectivize anything. Butthis is pure speculation on my part.

A transition to a whole new economic model who's niches and kinks will cause much stress on any logistical systems for years after the fact.

Coming from a relatively undamaged economy would help, but I think it would be safe to assume that for the first decade if progress is especially slow will be status quo for most industries and what ever collectives and/or central state just making sure people don't starve.

This aint god bro

I would think coming from a completely collapsed economy would, shall we say, simplify the logistics.

I rekon they collapsed because they wernt part of a agreeable commercial agreement.

Im watching Jack Hargreeves, old country ways.
Re allende, just a product of the system, the system is run by what one might call gangsters- they're quite popular!

Such is the way of adopting a economic model that mostly rejects all current theory. Obviously I think that the struggle would be worth enduring. But it's naive to simply ignore the fact that it will take time to adapt not only how we materially handle things but how we think about it. Even with current theory, it will, and must change so that people don't suffer the consequences

Yeah, I suppose it would. But let us remember that despite a already under developed, or collapsed economy the blame could be placed on socialism rather than other material factors, not to mention intentionally collapsing it mind my spook here would be objectively inhumane. (Also to say that Marx himself suggested that any sort of revolution should take place in a developed country.).
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No, the future should not be littered with past mistakes

You know what, I have just got read of 8 carrier bags of bricks out of my garden, and now I retreat to my basement, but I fixed my shed roof last week!

Crickets when someone shows up who has actually done something,…

Why has no one mentioned here that there will be no workers ie. no social classes in a communist society and hence OP's question doesn't make sense?

fucking retards

Are you talking about the theoretical communist mode of production following socialism where there is no state and no money? Or are you talking about the transitional period of socialism that precedes it?

Except that's wrong, you fucking tard. What the fuck do you wanna cal it when roads are maintained, buildings built, fields farmed, and burgers flipped? It's work.

I suggest >>>/r/Socialism for you

Jesus, man. Learn what class is.

Who swaps there spare time for spending money?

If you read the OP, it's about the work place, not the idea of the class of workers. Jesus.

You were not responding to the OP. You responded to this guy who was pointing out the absence of class in communism.

This is why I'm a market socialist. The implementation is really easy to understand.
Currently, the gas station's owner makes all the decisions. When people work, what the prices are, how much they're paid, etc.

Market socialism = the workers collectively decide on the schedule, they collectively decide on pay, they collectively decide on prices. And for businesses that are too big for absolute democracy, they go with representative democracy. They collectively decide who's going to manage the store or the factory or the office.

The implementation is easy to understand because it's just capitalism, you fucking muppet.

While the market still reigns they don't decide shit though. Do you seriously think the capitalism is bad simply because every boss just happens to be a huge cunt? No! It's because the operation of the market demands that participants submit to its logic, you scrub.