Why were so many bolsheviks jewish?

Not a Holla Forums shitposter. I'm just wondering.

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Because they weren't, Holla Forums.

Because they were an oppressed minority, and Marxism is a philosophy for the oppressed, so obviously it's going to speak to them.

A disproportionate amount were Jews.

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How many fucking times do we have to keep reminding you gleefully ignorant apes? YOU AND YOUR FASCIST LEADERS ARE FUCKING PROJECTING

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Jews were disproportionately concentrated in eastern europe around that time, they were the target of consistent persecution by the tsarist state and were far more likely to be literate and educated. Thus they were all the more likely to be exposed to marxism.
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They weren't. Russian jews were brutally oppressed by the established order at that time. Unlike their western brethren they were not wealthy or well connected, they just happened to be different from the dominant ethnicity. Lenin repeatedly spoke out strongly against antisemitism which probably helped them appeal to russian jews and also scared the shit out of reactionaries which is probably why this bullshit conspiracy theory exists in the first place.

What does "disproportionate amount" even mean? When they split with the Mensheviks, both parties had a couple thousand people at best. Even right before the revolution happened the numbers hadn't increased drastically. You go on and find 2,000 people from your city that frequent the places you frequent, and I'm sure it won't perfectly reflect the demographics of your country in general either.

Let's not be intellectually dishonest, a lot of the old bolsheviks were Jewish, and a sizable chunk of the Red Army was Jewish, but people need to realize that the White Army was literally performing pogroms against the Jewish population, if Bolsheviks hadn't won the Civil War it wouldn't be Italy and Germany we associate with the origins of modern Fascism, it'd be Russia. So of course the Bolsheviks had the support of Jewish people in Russia, but it's was hardly a "Jewish party", even central cadre weren't majority Jewish

Of the party members they were less than 5%.
Holla Forums gets riled up because sometimes the Central Committee would have 1/3 of the members be Jews, such as the 6th Congress.

"Bolsheviks, including Jewish Bolsheviks, were hostile to Judaism. From December 1918 to August 1919, the teaching of Hebrew was banned, religious instruction in Judaism was forbidden, the Kehillot (an umbrella organization of Jewish communists) was suppressed and the leaders of those organizations were rounded up and imprisoned.

In the next decade, anti-Semitism began to appear in Communist Party propaganda, with references by the Vozd against "Talmudists." During this period trials against Jews that would "put the trials of Dreyfus and Beilis in the shade."

Even in the early years of Hitler, when Nazism was supposedly the mortal enemy of Bolshevism, the Bolsheviks agreed with the Nazis that Jews were exploiters of the working class in Germany. As Walter Laqueur writes in his 1959 book, The Soviet Union and the Middle East:

"With the stimulus to Zionism given by the rise of Hitler, the Soviet and Comintern organs intensified their attacks on Zionism. Hitler's anti-Semitism was regarded skeptically; commenting on the April, 1933, boycott in Germany, it was said ‘In a few days you will find that all the big Jewish stores still exist, that Jewish bankers, capitalists and stock jobbers are still carrying on their businesses, and that no Jewish industrialist has suffered any damage.'"

So, while the Christian democracies were deploring Kristallnacht and despicable acts of the Nazis toward the Jews, the Bolsheviks (supposedly controlled by the Jews) pretended that the Nazis and Jews were actually in league – it is hard to imagine clearer evidence that those Jews who had died with the Bolsheviks (and so repudiated Judaism) were pawns of the Bolsheviks, not the controllers of Bolshevism."
americanthinker.com/2007/12/wrongfully_accused_jews_and_bo.html#ixzz3CjVxnvSd

72% Russian (53% of population)
6% Ukrainian (21% of population)
5.2% Jewish (1.8% of population)
4.6% Polish, Latvian, other Baltic (0.7% of population)
3.4% Transcaucasian (2.5% of population)
2.5% Central Asian (7% of population)
2% RSFSR minorities (4.3% of population)
3% others (6.4% of population)

Source: T.H Rigby, "Communist Party Membership in the USSR, 1917-1967"

Out of the 15 members of the Council of People's Commissars on 7 November 1917, the only Jew was Trotsky. Except for the Ukrainian Lunacharsky and the Pole Teodorvitch, everyone else was Russian

In the Civil War, 22,000 ex-Tsarist officers served with the Red Army in 1918 and a total 48,000 in the entire Civil War. This element was crucial in preserving the Bolshevik Revolution. Needless to say, there was not a Jewish element amongst ex-Tsarist officers. Neither was there a Jewish element amongst the primary commanders of the Red Army. The aforementioned Latvian Riflemen leader Joachim Vatsetis became commander-in-chief of the entire Red Army from September 1918 to July 1919. He was replaced by Sergei Kamenev who was of course a Russian. Other important leaders of the Red Army were Vladimir Antonov-Ovseyenko, Mikhail Tukhachevsky, Mikhail Frunze (Romanian), Klement Voroshilov, Vasili Bliukher, and Semyon Budyonni (Cossack).

Thus, it has been proven that there was a limited Jewish presence amongst the Bolsheviks whether in the state, party, or military.
Cameron, Kenneth Neill. Stalin, Man of Contradiction. Toronto: NC Press, c1987, p. 75

Does anyone else think that it is strange how most of Holla Forums's beliefs are based almost entirely on unsourced jpgs?

Ironically, many of the exSoviet jews who ended up in the US are now right wing petty bourgeoisie Trump supporters, much closer to 'russian' than 'jewish stereotypes'. Remember,'The Jews' are far from an unified monolith, Hassidic communities have little in common with the east coast intelligentsia or Sovkoz jews.

Strange? No. Unsurprising? Yes.

Philosophy, leadership, radical politics, etc are areas attract intellectuals. Jewish people with their high Autism Level naturally fill out their roles. Jews also have a disproportionate amount of chess grand masters and nobel prize laureates. Know you place goyim.

Good post.

Getting bullied by Ivan at school for larping as a magical race doesnt count.

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He isn't wrong though. Oppressed minorities create their own insular communities, and those insular communities produce their own intelligentsia. Consider the fact that in the first half of the 20th Century the Black radical tradition was predominantly Marxist, Du Bois, Richard Wright, CLR James, does tha mean Marxism is a black conspiracy? Does it mean black people weren't oppressed? If you're a Holla Forumsyp you might say yes, but if you aren't a complete retard then obviously no.

This. Having lots of Jews in your movement isn't something to be ashamed of. Frankly it should be a point of pride. The Jews have been a perpetually persecuted group of people, yet they have been unwavering of their support in creating a better humanity. The Jews have been a great asset in communist revolutions, we shouldn't shy away from that.

An oppressed minority, and one with a particular social position that gave them access to education and financial resources.

A lot of antisemitism comes from the peculiar position of jews in ethnic heirarchies.

Please explain

It's commonly used as a stand in for a 3rd positionist flag.