When and why did gamers and gaming culture become so reactionary? Did it all really start with GamerGate?

When and why did gamers and gaming culture become so reactionary? Did it all really start with GamerGate?

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who cares, get a proper hobby like fishing or motorsports

We have threads about this every week.

Liberals libeled gamers and socialists didn't step up to defend them against the corporate media.

Also, this is now a thread about the philosophical themes of NieR: Automata.

When leftists tried to inject it with their socjus cancer.

Fucking dweebs

How many fucking threads do we need to have about this? Gamer culture is irrelevant to anyone over 18.

But that's exactly the point though. Gamer's whole lives are defined by Vidya so anything that threatens it is a big fucking deal

A gamer waking up to find out Lara crofts ass has been shrunk by the sjw menace is kinda like a Yemeni waking up to find out their entire family was killed in a US airstrike

authoritarian right: euro boardgames
libertarian right: children's party clowns

authoritarian left: stamp collecting
libertarian left: biodynamic agriculture

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What did they expect? They declared an unjust war and will be brutally repelled and ejected in the name of God and freedom.

I think you just turned me into a third worldist

Who the hell honestly likes the old lara croft compared to the newer one? JEsus fucking christ

Believe it or not, but most people have their political "awakening" and become engaged because of something that affects their lives, be that their hobby, their job or something else. This is actually completely normal.

And given that for most leftists, political views ARE their hobby, I dunno if we're really in a position to preening ourselves over somebody becoming political over something we think isn't important.

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This post really highlights the cancer of creating an identity based on consumption

You don't think becoming politicized over your livelihood or safety or health is different from becoming politicized based on your favorite pair of polygonal tits?

It's this kind of shit that makes me fucking embarrassed to be associated with nerdy shit as I got older. Traditional identity politics is one thing, but crafting a brand new artificial identity, then pigeonholing yourself into it, and then basing your entire existence on it is the most complexly layered autism I could ever conceive of.

I hope this is irony

I want goons to leave this board and die, in no particular order.

These manchild tantrums have an actual sizeable political consequence too. I'm not sure how much of the memeing alt-right stemmed from gamergate, but I'm sure it's a sizeable number

In the end, most of the time this addiction to gaming is simply a form of escapism where you can be someone big and strong and powerful of a sexy bitch as well and forget about the reality of your detiorating dump of a body and your worthless life, so I do definitely understand the anger

I used to addicted to Vidya too btw, I gamed 8 hours a day, sometimes 10

Oh and this post is a perfect example of that

Actually, I would unironically not have a problem if a white person went to Asia and said that. Muh race and muh heritage aren't important anyway, let the crossbreeding begin.

Halfu are most attractive anyways.

Don't be so insecure, Jesus. You don't need to feel embarrassed on behalf of someone else's autism just because you share the same hobby as them.

When you learn to hate almost everyone, and always still find the bad in those who you do like, it just ceases to matter that they also enjoy things you do

Multiple factors, I think. Gaming is an expensive hobby, you need to pay ~$300 for a console and/or ~$700-1500 for a PC, plus the added cost of actually buying the games, so you are already going to run into people from more financially muh privileged backgrounds who are happy with the status quo.

You then have people who grow up playing games, with little social interaction or activity outside of in game chat and Internet boards.

You then have capitalism being capitalism, introducing cancerous models like DLC, paid online, microtransactions, and pay-to-win. As well as trying to expand its consumer base, which is where you get the influence of the socjus crowd.

Considering all of that and the retardation that is forming an identity around media consumption, and you get the modern shithead gamer.

Playing games is fine, it's my major hobby, but making gaming your identity and following the gaming community is cancerous.

Sexy latinas are proof that miscegenation is good.

You a ton of games on pretty much any computer for free.

It's one thing to be thought of as a "loser" or whatever, and of course I don't give a shit about that. But holy fuck do I not want to be associated with perpetually triggered proto-fascist bootlickers.

Anyway it's not use getting so serious about this. I still have games at my house. I still game with family and friends. But fuck if I'm going to be part of a "community" like I was when I was younger.

Video games are probably better than tv but still are a pretty low form of art.
Art hierarchy:
God tier:
Mathematics

Partician tier:
artitecture
Literature
Theater

Respectable tier:
Traditional painting/sculpture
Cinema
Music and dance
Culinary arts

Mediocre tier:
Photography
Visual novels

Pleb tier:
Video games
Television

NEET tier
anime

I can see you're gearing up for the most boring, pretentious revolution of all time

Nonsense. The highest form of art is cocaine use.

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why is this board so obsessed with "gamers?" who gives a fuck about these wastes of space?

I bet you think metal gear solid or deus ex are groundbreaking stories brainlet

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Not even a little groundbreaking. But I'm also smart enough to know not to alienate people by being the biggest pretentious POS on the planet. Your revolution is untenable if your legitimate opinion is to ostracize people who consume "lesser art"

Didn't the industry have a massive increase in market share in the 360/PS3/Wii generation? Why is it not as simple as more people = more reactionaries?

Ultimately, no. People become politicised for all kinds of reasons that may or may not meet your particular standards for what is a proper reason. You can engage with them regardless and try to persuade them of your position, or you can turn up your nose at their impure motives and let the other side have them.

And what am I gonna tell them? That I support the rampant consumerism behind their lifestyle and that I'm totally on board with giving a shit about their "problems"?

I'd rather talk to those right wing, laid off factory workers to be honest. My eyes can't roll hard enough for this conversation where I'm supposed to give a shit about the "political views" of people who have never engaged with the real world.

If your opinion begins and ends with the content of your games, and you're so fucking pampered that any minor change to this hobby is as severe to you as losing your fucking family, then you deserve nothing but scorn and disgust, and are a better al qaeda recruitment tool than anything you could possibly ever pull from the quran.

The bit about revenue isn't a statement of quality. It's simply pointing out that it's foolish to ignore any significant form of media.

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And keep in mind I'm not talking about "gamers" as in "anyone who plays games". I mean the kind of people who build their entire lives and identities around them and then sperg out when insignificant cultural changes are threatened in the narrative or graphics as one game. Do you really think these sperg-lords are a massive voting bloc in the US? Because I can tell you, I can go out tomorrow and talk to 100 people in my city, many of whom play games, and not talk to a single person who gives a single fuck about gamergate or e-celebs like jontron.

The computer isn't free and I have met plenty of retards that have poured hundred$, even thousand$, into microtransactions on free-to-play games.

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video games are for children

I don't think it's accurate to frame the two things as being mutually exclusive. People can be motivated by important things and dumb trivial things simultaneously. Caring about some stupid gaming drama doesn't preclude you from also caring about whether or not you're going to be able to afford healthcare or something.


Jesus Christ, hardly anyone feels this strongly about this shit, even Holla Forums autists. Anyone that seriously feels that way is such an incredibly tiny minority that they're hardly even worth discussing. Stop taking shitposts on a Mongolian basketweaving forum so seriously.

Meant as a reply for

What are we discussing if not the subset of people who were politicized exclusively from gaming?

If you want to talk about people with a nuanced outlook on life who also game and have an opinion about that, that's an entirely different discussion.

He's right you know. Tthese so called "gamers" and "failsons" are potentially more persuadable to leftist ideals when you're not actively condemning them which makes them more inclined to become aut right

Yeah, I get that, I'm saying that such people who care so much about games to the total exclusion of everything else are an incredibly tiny, if vocal, minority that isn't really worth getting worked up about. It's not even something that's exclusive to gaming, really.

stop recreating the shit thread Holla Forums it is an unsolvable mystery nobody knows why you only know retards

This is a strawman you've constructed for yourself. Pretty much nobody actually fits this description and I think you know that.

I mean, have you ever actually talked to one of these supposed pampered "gamers"? Some shit to do with their hobby might have pricked their ears up, but most are concerned with all sorts of things. Righties understood this and used gaming shit as a wedge to activate them and bring them around on a whole range of other issues.

And hell, given that socialist politics in the west, right now, is pretty much just a hobbyist subculture where people pick out a constructed ideological identity and then talk to each other in incomprehensible jargon and get mad over trivial differences of opinion and favourite authors, are we really in a position to be condemning people? Are we actually serious about politics, or are we just satisfied with saying GTFO noob because someone hasn't spent 150 hours honing their Marxist jargon knife-running skills?

No it isn't, it's a post in this thread right here


You should probably read the thread before basing your argument on the idea that someone's statements came from the ether of strawmanning

Do you honestly believe that post wasn't ironic

Back to SA, goon.

stop recreating the shit thread Holla Forums it is an unsolvable mystery nobody knows why you only know retards

stop recreating the shit thread Holla Forums it is an unsolvable mystery nobody knows why you only know retards

The post you're referring to was ironic and "you've constructed a strawman for yourself" are very different things.

stop recreating the shit thread Holla Forums it is an unsolvable mystery nobody knows why you only know retards

stop recreating the shit thread Holla Forums it is an unsolvable mystery nobody knows why you only know retards

stop recreating the shit thread Holla Forums it is an unsolvable mystery nobody knows why you only know retards

stop recreating the shit thread Holla Forums it is an unsolvable mystery nobody knows why you only know retards

Wow, it's fucking nothing.

shit, why didn't sage work? mods please remove my post and ban me for retardation.

Scrolling through list of thread titles, ignoring board names

>blah blah blah reactionary

Oh I just bet this is in Holla Forums

[checks]

yep.

In Jon's case it wouldn't surprise me if people were just getting bored of his channel after a few years and needed a demographic to pander to.

But seriously how did Jon go from supporting Bernie to stop Trump to full-blown white nationalist?

Sad thing is, this ideological jump is a lot shorter than you might think

Mass immigration as an economic and logistical issue is something liberals are unwilling to oppose or discuss because it directly conflicts with their postmodern obsession with racism, which was essentially created to justify the material base of capitalist society. As reformists and apologists, they are incapable of actually dealing with a problem inherent to the system, so even though people are getting anxious over it, they aren't even capable of imagining an alternative to the status quo because it is literally never discussed, even theoretically. So when they get irritated enough, they buy into the rhetoric of anyone who is at least willing to speak about the problem and assuage people's fears–no matter how stupid what they say is.

Or, y'know, pandering. Could be either.

critical mass of annoying liberals, like most Very Online people who end up that way

Yeah I'm going to say that if he was smart enough to be pandering he wouldn't get publicly BTFO by a fucking liberal of all people. I'm honestly not sure how he justifies not killing himself now, that's peak embarrassment

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top kek

This is the Internet, if someone agrees with what you say, they will never believe you have been BTFO by anyone. The aut-rights I see in chats are rationalizing the Destiny debate by personally attacking the liberal with no mention of who actually argued better, for example.

I was pro-GG for a while because of Gerstmann and Kane and Lynch. I hate how critics were pressured to give good reviews for ad revenue and that criticism was shifted to idpol when people noticed. Now it's just batshit insane.