Globalism kills communism

How do we prevent bad Globalism from destroying any chance of authentic communist revolution?

I mean the type of globalism that is basically a one world "government" with no borders, no more national sovereignty; people simply ruled by some despotic committee of technocrats and probably capitalist-materialists who only see humans as means of production and the only calculations they care about are economic in nature?

Is the concept of the national sovereignty inherently bad? In light of what is happening the answer has to be NO.

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By promoting bellicose chauvinistic characteristics within socialist framework of our parties and organizations.

but that is communism user….

By killing everyone in the world.

I am up for a global community, fuck Nationalism

damn globalists

Fight globalism with internationalism

"Globalism" should only be promoted by communists, if not simply in the interest of precipitating us towards a revolutionary moment: marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1888/free-trade/.

does internationalism maintain national sovereignty and prevent a "one world government" type situation?

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Internationalism means solidarity with workers of all nations as the general basis upon which an international revolution against international capital should happen.

This is not possibility for long as culture and language are tied to ethnicity (and such things exists).

Nah.

what does an engineer in Russia have in common with an Imam in Malyasia? Just cause people work for a living doesn't mean they should feel "solidarty" (whatever that even means) with someone else.

rest assured, real life is not a bad science fiction movie.

Social democracy can never work without strong nationalism

time for some Esperanto in this bitch

Assuming they both subsist on the proceeds of wage labour, an economic class.

If they hope to end a society dominated by wage labor and all of its disastrous consequences, such as the gradual erosion of stable social relations for the purpose of commodification and aggrandizing market outreach, then yes: class solidarity is absolutely instrumental.

true globalism will happen when humans are totally de-humanized and one ideology has squashed all diversity, all culture, all meaningful differences between people and turned them into automatons that only care about work and labor

this is true, they don't have to

they must or else they both will remain an underpaid engineer and an exploited imam

who needs automatons when you have automation

This

It can, long as state is Unitary and not federal.

Cultural revolution should hold priority since it would be far more efficient method.

class solidarity is what erodes stable social relations via faulty reductionism: categorizing human life primarily as a struggle of employees vs employers, and reducing social relations simply to matters of trade/finances. There's a lot more to life than economics and not everyone relates to their labor in the same way, and labor does not encompass all dimensions of life, and really it isn't even that important.

A gay-atheist Russian engineer will probably feel hostility towards a conservative, pious, Malaysian Imam, and just because they receive "wage labor" doesn't mean they will fight shoulder to shoulder in politics and economic matters. In fact their worldviews are going to be so different that labor will hardly "bring them together" in solidarity.

Faulty "work" reductionism done by globalist-classphobes is even dumber than biological reductionism done by ethno-nationlists.

yes, how can I victimize myself using hegelian dialectics?

And another game of "spot the liberal" won. By me.

This. It also reeks of cultural relatavism

Genuine technocrats would be socialists anyway.

Clergy gets the bullet anyway

no one is forcing you to be one user, but why are you consciously forcing others to be one?

no, tough shit

Because Nashunal Socialism (fuck you word filter) is the best Socialism. You can't have socialism without the nation. Globalism serves porky. Stop denying genetics and tribalism. These things are natural and good. You cannot get rid of them without genetic engineering. They are not spooks because they are real and inherent. They are not fake made up shit like christianity. The sooner you socialists remember that humans are tribal by nature not by some abstract made up concept, then the sooner you will have your revolution.

It is inherently bourgeois.

Except that's not globalism and doesn't exist. Having "open borders" is very different from having no borders at all, and was basically the default peacetime state of a national border for most of human history. It's literally an imaginary line. The emphasis on "open borders" in the current context is foremost a free trade euphemism (like "Globalism" itself) and again doesn't reflect a desire to abolish nations.

So jews and asians should be on top then. They have the highest intelligence after all.

At least you don't deny that race does in fact exist

Yes, after all gnomes get +2 int but -2 penis size.

This, National Social Democracy is the best.

Only because one or both individuals are spooked and haven't recognized their shared interests as workers. Just because they FEEL opposition to each other doesn't mean their interests are actually opposed.

I think both of you are missing the larger point, which is that regardless of whether or not people disagree about other areas of their life, "I'm being robbed blind by my boss" is something even staunch enemies can work together to solve, even as they continue fighting each other over other issues.

When does being exploited stop?

That's exactly what I'm saying though. Even if their spooks are getting in the way of cooperation, it's a material fact that they are both being exploited in the same way by the same people.

I've wondered this. Are the democrat's globalism pretty much just imperialism under a "progressive" banner?