Tfw cryptoniggers are going to slow gaming progress to a stand still because no one can afford the new cards and next...

Cross your fingers that your current hardware holds out. If it fails, to (current gen) console land you go - current gen consoles probably aren't affected as manufacturers likely have long term deals with prices somewhat locked in place.

It's not like better graphics are gonna make the games good anyways

Get your fact straight.

This is an extremely poor attempt to disguise non-vidya as vidya. It is bad and you should feel bad.

All new hardware has crippled technological progress since optimization died.
Congratulations retards, you got your wish.

You're actually in the wrong on that one, chum.

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IMPORTANT

Steam lists 65% of it's users as using "Simplified Chinese". These are bots.
The most played game? PUBG. Why are people botting PUBG?

They're not.

PUBG AND STEAM IS A SMOKESCREEN. THE CHINESE ARE BUYING GRAPHICS CARDS SO THEY CAN CONTROL THE CRYPTOCURRENCY MARKET BEFORE IT EVEN BEGINS

Call me when there is a console withoutt a single game that runs at sub-60 fps.
Spoiler: it will never happen

Literally nobody is interested in your faggoty meme coins literally only supported by scalped hardware.

just you wait

and speculation
which is ironic because originally memecoins were supposed to be commie shit.

well it sure got the commies interested just not for any use as actual currency

Shit at 60fps is still shit.
Framerate is ultimately not a meaningful determinate to techological expertise.
A serenade on a potato is still more profound than a Midi of Bad Apple.

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idort actually, High end cards going consumer grade made the actual technical fidelity of software exponentially more shit.
This is a fact.

No you dumb cunt, consoles hold back video game industry hard. For decades now.

Seriously?

thats a big bait

Chess and Go are solved games. They have a limited number of possible permutations, and so all that has happened is computer have become powerful enough to brute-force all of them to maximum efficiency. Computer still can't "think".

If you want to see how "smart" an AI is in a game that isn't solved, look how they perform in Civilization. They literally have to cheat resources and money in order to have a chance to compete with a human player.

The market is so fucking crazy right now you can turn a profit getting a $700 prebuilt and selling the gpu for more than the price of the system.

>>>/reddit/

What? Memecoins have always been full libertarian/ancap wet dream. Just look how china and other shitty socialist commie countries are so fucking scared out of them or are trying to create their own so they can regulate it.

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stick to consoles, kids

Not quite accurate. Neither chess nor go have been solved, and both are a long ways off from that due to their sheer complexities. Strong solutions have been found for chess endgames, and 5x5 and 7x7 Go boards have been weakly solved, but the full games may never be truly solved. The most complex game to date that has been solved is checkers, and that's only a weak solution (it only guarantees a draw through perfect play, but it's still a solution).

What is true is that through machine learning, AI has become good enough to beat grandmasters of chess, and has even been making strides in Go. As that user mentioned, AIs have actually managed to beat Go masters recently, something that still seemed years off. So it's not just a matter of "figure out every move and then you can beat anyone," particularly for games of such complexity.

AI in vidya does have advantages in that it can react much quicker than human players, and it can be hard to tell if it's cheating or not. Game designers may put in "cheats" in order to ramp up the difficulty of the AI, giving you a harder opponent to overcome. But if you go too far, then you make an impossible opponent that nobody would play against. It's a fine line to ride. Obviously, the better solution would be to create a smarter AI that could react and decide more like a human, but game budgets usually don't have much set aside for how the computer plays the game. You'll pretty much have to deal with the cheap, quick-and-dirty solution until smarter AI becomes inexpensive and usable by any developer.

this goddammit

You're a stupid nigger and you should feel bad.

this. games haven't progressed since the looking glass era and maybe F.E.A.R

Should I end it? I want to play high-end VR and shit, but it seems impossible now

Just wait a few months. This crypto shit always comes and goes. But it's annoying when you want your shit now and $359 cards are going for $600.

Look for a used card on Craigslist.

Don't do this cards used for cryptofaggotry burn out real quick.

try to look locally is your best bet really.
but really 1060 is getting me by just fine thou i was aiming to upgrade to 1070ti for the past month and half just waiting for a great deal only to have miner shit happen again back like during the gtx 700 era and was aiming for amd at that time but the amd cards were basically bought up because during that mining craze amd was the king miner.

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Most of them probably are.

That has to be the single stupidest post I have seen on this board in an incredibly long time

There are so few games that are both exclusive to PC, actually push graphical boundaries forwards and are also good that it honestly boggles my mind how anyone could think that powerful cards have anything to do with this
You really need to be either completely unaware of the industry or incredibly fucking brainwashed by Intel and AMD to actually believe such a stupid thing

The only thing GPUs for are to run the latest console port at a framerate high enough to consider it playable, because whatever vietnamese company that the dev hired to port it could not be fucked to actually optimise it for PC.
Please do not post again

Unless this is bait in which case good job you made me mad

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OH NO!
I WON'T BE ABLE TO PLAY UNOPTIMIZED SHITTY GAMES

WHY SHOULD WE OPTIMIZE WHEN YOU CAN BE A GOOD GOY AND BUY THE LATEST GAYSEX 6000000?

Oh, but the subhumans need their overpriced GPUs for the modicum performance boost playing their shitty rehashes of remasters. :^)

If you can't beat them, join them. I think I'm going to make a gaming/crypto build if the prices are still high by the time Zen+ comes out.

I don't exactly know what a gaming/crypto build looks like though. Mobo with 4 full size pci-e slots filled? 1000w gold PSU?

Deal with it.

this,

graphic whores are mentally retarded, the pinnacle of gaming tech peeked in the PS2 era. Hardwarefags only enabled lazy developer optimization.

This is a net benefit.
If retards can't afford the latest hardware due to the cryptomeme, then Devs will be forced to optimise their games to work on these lower-end systems, or else the market will be substantially smaller than they need to make a profit.

Buy an antminer s9, it will pay for itself in two months

who cares you'll still find some shitty reason not to pay for a game, why even try to pretend

So scared that some of the largest farms are set up in chink land?

it looks like you took a wrong turn at Cuckbuquerque
>>>/4chan/ is down the hall and always to the left

1. Lazy and incompetent developers
2. Greedy and out of touch publishers
3. The festering sewer known as "games journalism"'s
4. Fandoms
5. "Social Media" (tumblr, facebook, twitter)
6. Streamers/E-celebrities's

hardware stopped being a meaningful hurdle to game design over a decade ago. the problem isn't the machine, it's the (((machine)))

user you're right, but you are still gay.

My gtx770 from 2014 still gonna run 1080p for the foreseeable future, I got plenty of time to wait until prices come down. In the long term this increase demand is going to equal more capital spend on research and will accelerate the growth of graphics cards. Just hold on and see what the companies come out with.

I said this once and I will say it again
Hardware limitations are good for the software developers as they are forced to use their fucking brain to work around problems with limited resources, in the current state of the industry they can be really fucking wasteful with the computing resources shown by the fact that every game get useless filters down the throat to make it a cinematic experience. Most of the current games are bruteforcing their way of doing stuff.

I fucking hate cryptoniggers, but modern games are shit anyways so I don't even need a new graphics card.

Wait if more people are buying said chip wouldn't it be easier for the company to expand production on the chip, find ways to make it cheaper and eventually make it cheaper
Oh wait we're not in a rational state but a weird mix that takes the worst from Communism and Capitalism
ok

the developers and publishers say the opposite, they told companies to make systems as easy to program for as possible so they can spend more time and resources just making the game and the graphics "better".

the only time companies have ever on purposefully made systems difficult to program for ( that I'm aware of) is Sony because they wanted to make it harder for developers to port across platforms (which is kind of a dick move)

some tech news reports state the physical components that actually make up computers are currently scarce right now. there's supposed to be a shortage of nand flash. and I've heard of other component shortages but I'm not sure about exact details outside of the nand stuff.

What?

Counterpoint: Computers don't "think". They bruteforce. They crunch numbers. Why make a clever program when you can can just throw it out into the world, get the answer you were looking for, and nobody seeing any perceptible difference? You are right of course, though.

I meant what I said, the Communist disolvement of identity with the Capitalist greed

sounds a lot like cronyism, fueled by collectivism ruled by an oligarchy.

And jews sound an awful lot like a CLASS, operating as a RACE, while acting like a RELIGION

sounds about right, although all the oligarchs at the top are usually the (((chosen ones)))

You just described every 1st and 2nd world countries on planet earth.

wasn't that the idea behind sonic 2006? they programmed the entire game and some really easy language, (Lua I think) but it ended up as a complete disaster

I would say most Third World countries are ruled by oligarchs as well, usually through a proxy (or two).

The reason I didn't include them is because there's so little capital there it's not worth anyone's time to exploit when juggernauts like the Americas and Europe exists.

So instead you get local warlord of the month and a bunch of nigger socialists too dumb to read, let alone develop an econnomy, spice it up with the ocational tribal genocide and you got a shitheap so stinky only the most deperate of Jew would ever stick his nose in it.

Natural Selection 2 would have been a much better game if they hadn't coded all the game's logic in fucking Lua. Also, they shouldn't have made tech points static locations.

And I only got it for $90 last year.
Reminder that minerfaggots are purchasing older cards and the prices of those cards have rose significantly. If you have any older cards, sell them now for profit.

I thought not even good graphics cards were enough to get anything these days though?

Same, I have an old 650 I think it was, can I put it on some old pc and start mining (for a decent profit)?

Who will buy my 4870?

At least with arcades they had the courtesy to look you in the eyes while they were fucking you and there was some novelty. It's gone from loud clown sex to dank basement stank fucking.

Easy to program doesn't necessarily mean to have so many fucking resources that you waste them on filters.

I forgot to reply to you, yes, you're right about that, but you can alleviate that number crunching by programming efficiently, using the least memory possible to get the wanted result, once a codemonkey gets to that level, he can do some amazing shit a la Carmacks inverted square root

Considering how badly paid people making vidya are, on top of bullshit like crunch time and having to suffer diversity hire dykes in management I sincerely doubt programmers of Carmack's caliber even bother going into gaming anymore, at least in a professional capacity.

All the talented programmers are going to other places, at least around me, app developement, web developement and shit like that.

when you say "filters" what exactly do you mean? any major examples?

You made me laugh.

Why wouldn't they? If they want to sperg out and make a game they can always do that in their free time, or just mod one of the autism timesinks out there.


All the post processing garbage developers shove into games to make them look cinematic. Think DXHR piss filter, or the blue tint in Battlefield 3.

When there's no other shit to work on your country, that's what you start with.


Unnecessary video post processing.


I'm not saying it's bad, that's just the situation we're in, no one who knows how to move bits by hand is interested in making vidya.

Are they not interested because of the working conditions or because they feel there is nothing interesting left to do with games in terms of coding?

Where are you from? You can work online

are you sure about that? I've seen mods that remove the green color filter from fallout 3 and the yellow overlay from deus ex. i don't remember hearing about any major performance gains.

as far as the HDR or high dynamic range lighting stuff goes I think that's only existed fairly recently and you need a very specific monitor to actually use that feature. (although I do know that they had fake HDR lighting stuff, first time I remember hearing about it was splinter cell 3 Chaos theory).

They're not interested because there's barely any vidya devs around here


Sbane, but I'm already working on my stuff, right now I'm studying electronics, the "basic" stuff, to practice coding I have an arduboy to make some small games on my free time.

I want you to leave

But I am not aware of any nation that is operating under National Socialism at the moment.

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Cryptomining is a fucking fad, and it's volatile as a motherfuck. The bubble is ready to pop literally any day for any reason because it's all made up and people are going crazy. Do you really think a company like Nvidia or AMD are going to dump money into increasing production and building more factories based purely on a manic fad?

Ayyyoooo.

see

Try replaying Arkham Asylum some time while remembering the game is nearly a decade old. We've pretty much hit a ceiling now in regards to how good graphics in a game can get. That's why console developers were focused so much on the stupid extra feature shit, they realise they can't sell them on improved graphics anymore.

Lua is a common scripting language used for game logic and as a general interface to the game engine. Serious Sam 3 also uses Lua.

Lua is an old memelanguage like Go is today.

Is serious sam 3 any good? I've only played 1/2nd encounter.

This fake """HDR""" mode is not HDR at all. it just makes things brighter. They should have just called it "Simulate Human Eyes" because all it does is make things brighter or darker depending on where you are looking.

This.

Also, it's not like even the graphics get better, one could say that they got worse since Crysis 1 and the full capacity of the hardware is still untapped because all programmers are Pajeet's, diversity hire trannies and soygoblins who were taught programming by one of the aformentioned groups.

Live in russia. Cryptoniggers increased prices of GPUs here more than even financial crisis did. Imagine that. They are worse than obama to hardware prices.
And you know what? Government banned their shit but stores started to sell GPUs SPECIFICALLY for bitcoin mining and online websites created new categories for them.
Not like anybody plays any video games in russia except for dota and cs though, and then boasts about money they get from cybersport. I almost starved to get myself decent card.

There is a possible rare earth metal shortage. China has most of the current supply, but they are running low. There is a source off the coast of Japan which, if tapped, may really help their economy. Apparently the largest source of rare earth metals is in North Korea of all places.

I know who's getting invaded after Iran.

What progress?

>(((Cryptocoin)))) bubble bursts
2018's looking to be a great year.

imagine still using mustard talking points

How much of a price increase are we talking? I live in Australia so things are already hiked up ($320-380 AUD for the newer "budget" cards here)

I don't need it yet, as most games I play are old or not shittily optimised but it's going to hurt to upgrade in the future.

These fuckers are the reason I'm still stuck with a 6950. I hope this Jewish ponzi scheme comes to an end soon so they can fuck off already.

I speculate Japanese mining companies are waiting for China's supply to officially run out before the deep sea mining investment would be worth it. Shit might solve the incoming pension crisis in Japan, though they still need to get their birth rate up so that never happens again.

And yeah, if Japan can't deliver the Norks might just get Gulf War'd

Nips don't need more people, they're already overpopulated. All they need is less old people.

This is true, but I really don't know what they can do about the retirees other than say "gibs are gone". Germany is even more overpopulated and they already have incentives to raise their birth rate (that appear to be working) yet they keep accepting migrants as an apparent stopgap fix for their incoming pension crisis (despite the fact that the migrants do not work and are a gigantic hole for tax dollars. 99% its to skew voting demographics and the germans are just far too trusting of the people fucking them in the ass)

To imply a low birth rate is bad is a jewish real estate scheme for making more shekels.

t. nintendrone

No, user. It'll be even better than that. It's actually gonna go a little something like this:
>(((Cryptocoin))) bubble bursts
2018 is gonna be a great time

It is bad when you don't have enough youths coming in to replace all the jobs that are gonna be lost to retirees.

Japans birth rate is at sustainment rate. Stop listening to jewish propaganda.

Having spare jobs is somehow a bad thing?
If companies have to compete to get workers they'll value workers more, less money to the jew more money to the small guy.

And the government wants to ban all of them. Your fucking point?

"Spare jobs" means that some poor fuck is gonna have to do someone else's job as well their own because there's no one to fill it dumbass. He won't even get paid more either, he'll just be expected to tow the line because "That's just how things are right now, Bob." Have you ever worked a job after a wave of layoffs? This is how it always goes.

You're arguing lack of jobs on a subject about spare jobs, smarty.

Holy shit, being this much of a kike
bad for whom, Moishe?

Maybe devs will finally focus on fucking gameplay again then.

wew lad, and they're convinced that it's all JOOS.

That wasn't the response I saw when bitcoin crashed.

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niggah, you serial?
you can tell crypto has already taken off when legit banks started using it
and FYI, the chinks and rusks already hold most control over it

What crash? There are even more crypto in usage now.
You are just butthurt because some of us got the upstart.

Avoid banks completely.

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its your fault for playing weeb shit
and then again, it only proves my point, PC master race can pirate anything anywhere

This
The sooner the industry stop being a graphic whore, the better it can focus on actual gameplay

easily pleased consumers already slowed gaming progress, we're already seeing a drop in hardware heavy games because a lighter game means more people can play it. Surely you've noticed that there hasn't been a game made to show off graphics card power in awhile.

Memory-bound cryptos like ETH and XMR plus machine learning should hopefully push the manufacturers to ship stacked memory.

I dont know in what time you live but graphics/physics/technology havent really advanced in past ten years. The reason why we need more advanced hardware right now is because of shit optimization.

What is PBR?
What is VR?
What is soft-body physics?
Oh, that's right. They're all things that have shipped in commercial games in the last 10 years that we couldn't do before this point.

A book with no inventions
A gimmick, at least for now
Older than you.

and there are plenty more examples, fear vs. nufear, etc.
vr doesnt have better graphics because it has to render double the shit than normal game

Learn to read.
Note the technology part. VR is an advancement in vidya technology regardless of if you personally care for it or not.

And with an expected 4k resolution in HDR. And if it ever dips under 60 FPS it's LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE even though fondly remembered PS2 era games could sometimes barely hold 20 FPS.

VR has been here since 90s, it is not a breakthrough technology. VR graphics got better but they lag behind normal shit even today

nigga it begun over 10 years ago

He's not wrong, I bought a cyberpower lemon PC with a 480 and sold the card to a retarded ETH miner I knew for 850, I then sold the rest of the PC for 400 I think.

VR isn't necessarily/nor mutually substitutable as a videogame strictly speaking in a realistic interpretation of software classification

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It's going to pop because Bitfinex has 60 billion dollars worth of IOUcoin aka tether, once everyone is forced to realize that isn't backed by real money the market crashes.

Carmack stole that, and no one knows who actually came up with that. It was, however, in software from IBM years before Carmack supposedly 'created' it.

It's a soft crash. Like titanium is a soft metal.

It wasn't stolen, it was public code. People just continue to miscredit him, much like they continue to mispraise him. Carmack is smart but only because he studies and finds ways people solved the same problems before him- he's never invented anything.

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Wew

What can you buy with bitcoin that you cannot buy with regular money?

Think about it.
That is why it's not going to succeed.

VR goggles arent CRT in any way.

More like what can you buy with regular money that you cannot buy with bitcoin? The entire model is based purely on value in USD. Nobody buys jack fucking squat with bitcoin. They only buy bitcoin in the hopes that some other dumb nigger with buy it back from them for even more money later.

This is what currency speculation is, and participating in it is something to be embarrassed and ashamed of.

Are you retarded? 300 billion just left the crypto market, the market just got cut in half.

VR pushes for advancements in technology. Because it magnifies weakness (literally and figuratively) of current video level and demands for order of magnitude increases. VR wants 8K per eye, VR wants 144 FPS, in soft way VR even wants proper ray tracing like lighting. When console kids playing on TV hit practical ceiling already, due to screen limitations they are ok with 1080P@30fps.

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The deformed kike exposes himself.
Afraid of losing all banks to anons with bits in their computers?

Good, these AAA companies deserve to go bankrupt so gaming can flourish again and shit can actually be optimized properly. It's just karma.

The crash only hurt bitcoin if you held ethereum you barely lost anything. Same with a few other alts (ICX, VEN). Crypto lost money but it's not going anywhere, expect PC gaming to die or change as companies scramble to actually optimize their shit properly so we don't have to buy new GPUs.

guess who just made cryptokiking more popular

You’re 100% retarded.

So are you. Kikes are the ones pushing crypto.

errrrmmm, CP?

There is no such thing as a real AI, and it will take probably 20 to 30 years until we have one. And once we get there, shit's probably completely fucked unless the mathematical AI safety problems are somehow solved till then.


The chinese already control the cryptocurrency market since years, almost all the big miners are in northern China. And the chinese government just started prohibiting mining because it would increase power prices for the remaining industry, if anything the chinese want less control of the cryptocurrency market. You're a complete retard.


AI in games are restricted because of tight CPU time budgets, especially because of consoles, there's no such thing as "expensive game AI" in the financial sense.


It's complete garbage.
Just scoop up a 1060 or 1070 from one of those retailers that limit GPUs per customer, they pop up every now and then


The big money in crypto mining is and always was in ASICs, the GPU shit just started popping up with the ETHash algorithm gaining traction. It's a bubble and it would be a huge risk for Nvidia or AMD to capitalize on it. AMD once overproduced their GPUs a few years back and it bit them in the ass.


It will hopefully be sorted out by the chinese price fixing investigations, it's been going on for almost two years now


Whores, drugs, steroids, contract killers. Terrible question to ask, a better one would be
Which are technical issues that are solvable. Crypto right now is Dotcom 2.0, but just like back then there will be the Google to survive the massacre when the bubble pops and it won't be fucking Bitcoin.

Optimization and clever use of resources is more important than powerhousing through shit. When some mustard here tells you "lul I dun care PC is most powerful" that's how you can tell they're tryhard kids trying to fit in with a crowd, equivalent to nouveau riche yuppies bragging that they buy the same shit for a higher price simply because they can (smart rich folks still cut costs when it's efficient).

Great, now all the rich, 14 year-old, mustard redditors with access to mommy's credit card are gonna inflate the market prices even more.

Crypto is a jewish scheme and people are retarded to think otherwise.
>Oy vey goyim! Just charge 12 top-end GPUs to your credit card and use them to obtain (((Currency))) that can't be used for the goods and services that you actually need in order to survive!

Just wait for a good deal on a used card with the perf you need. Don't whine about $900 1080s when it's your fault for thinking buying new is a good idea.

Another retard that uses tor so people won't bully every retarded post he makes under that thread's ID.

bitcoin hasn't crashed

Thanks for the advice (((user))).

Also

You have to be extremely ignorant to think that the state of VR of 1990s is in any way comparable to what it is right now. Back then it was a thing that only a few companies were involved in, it was mostly meant for arcade machines and it never went much beyond proof of concept because of the lacking resolution, terrible refresh rates and very early 3d rendering
Nowadays it is a booming industry with many companies involved either making the headsets or peripherals or programs for it. It has opened the door for new genres of games, it has massively improved racing and flight sim games, has way more utility beyond video games and it is actually an affordable product that ordinary people can buy.

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At least wait till the new Vive is released

Great fucking thread. You're all on my shitlist.

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This isn't 2011 where everything ever has cripple_AMD built into it.

Are you retarded? Having a shortage of workers is not even remotely the same as a temporary shortage of employees at one business because of layoffs. Just because a company temporarily is understaffed doesn't mean there's suddenly a million jobs you could easily get just waiting out there. If there was, you could easily just fucking quit and find another job within 2 weeks.

We have had a thread like this on Holla Forums every month for half a year now.


I'm looking up my 2GB GTX 760 card right now and I can get upwards of $80 for it. That's fucked up. It's not even good for mining. There's no way I played more than $250 for it new when I bought it and that was so many years ago I can't remember when.


And what does Bitcoin have to do with GPU mining? Ethereum's driving the high-memory card sales and it hit its all time high a week ago. Not that this is really a crash either, and it wouldn't matter if it was - the only actual crash in 2014 didn't stop it.

We're reaching peak levels of full retard.

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But user, haven't you heard the very true story of people getting 6 gorillion dollars because they run miners?

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I actually made $4000 by mining before the first crash. If I had sat on it, i'd have made over $80000. Fuck my life.

It actually did at one point, when the biggest bitcoin trader of the time (Mt.Gox) got hacked. It lost so much value at that time that you can call it a crash.

I don't think you get the point of crypto currencies

Short-term demand spike raises short-term prices, but doesn't affect (or actually drops) long-term prices. Just wait a few years, or buy a lower-demand card now for cheaper. You don't need a brand new top-of-the-line card every single year.

those cards are being taken as well.

All I see is money-grubbing libtard rats abusing credit cards playing at digital coin stocks with no self-worth while ignoring the state of their countries, all this is doing is disgusting the fuck out of me.

I do. It's the very embodiment, purest case of usury.

Completely and utterly fucking false.
You fundamentally don’t understand how banking works if you think that banks are even capable of failing. They create the currency itself. All they have to do is print more.
Take a gander at
1. the creators
2. the implementation
3. the execution of said implementation
4. THE FACT THAT IT’S DEFINITIONALLY A PERFECT FIAT CURRENCY
You sure are.
What will you do when the power goes out? How many family members will your hard drive feed?

Look for a good pre-built one - as crazy as that might sound. The price increases haven't reached them yet.

Depends on the amount of iron he can scrape off the media tbh

Good thing that automation isn't a thing that is currently advancing at a rapid pace, better involve some subhumans to be a drain on your society.


Spare jobs means that employers need to be more competitive with their wages.

That would probably give you cancer.

Well in any other market losing 1/3rd of your cap in a day would be called the fucking apocalypse.

Is that why the very first block in the chain has a message referring to the bailouts? Bitcoin was objectively a reaction to central banking. Or are you so stupid that you misunderstood what I meant by "backdoor"?

That's why I put quotes around it. Again, I think you have a problem with reading comprehension. I can't recall the last time I heard someone use that phrase unironically.

And that's not even what "too big to fail" means in the first place. The phrase was meant to denote that if the banking system suffered the full brunt of their mistakes, they would take business, government, and rule of law with them. Now it's used as a joke to mock the morons who robbed the taxpayer blind to do it.

There are many people who you can point the finger at with respect to controlling crypto, but Jews are pretty far down that list. Pretty funny that you loathe it so much when it is a direct competitor to something that is a central pillar of international Jewish power. I'm not even trying to shill buttcoin but you're just spitting out lies here.

True, but unlike the dollar, there is no Fed to independently decide to inflate the supply so government can pay debts. If you have a way to make verifiable, cryptographically-secure transactions over the Internet that are objectively tied to real, valuable items, I would recommend you go create it right now.

Physical fiat is flawed. Digital fiat is not. Did you not understand that?
Given that you used the wrong word to describe the wrong claim based on the wrong event, I can’t see how you weren’t confused.
So yes, you admit to invalidating your own premise.
I can’t recall the last time I heard some kike say kiketocurrencies don’t help them…
Oh yeah, they’re sure shaking from that mockery aren’t they.
tommy_lee_jones_with_a_newspaper.jpg
No, it doesn’t compete with the thing it replaces.
Irony.
You don’t need to inflate the supply if there isn’t a physical object to be transferred.
So, something physically impossible. If there was ONE kiketocurrency and the value of a single unit was immutably pegged to, say, a scientifically measured and legally defined amount of physical gold, you would begin to have a foundation for your claim. If said kiketocurrency operated based on a fluid cap that changed in direct proportion to the amount of gold that has been mined, calculated by the same units of gold to which the kiketocurrency is pegged–not a simple hard cap to the number of its units in existence–you would REALLY have something. But that’s not what any of them are. “This arrangement of magnetic states on a hard drive has value because we say it has value.” This is the most fundamental and perfect fiat currency there can EVER be. It’s not money, it has no actual value, and a single EMP can eradicate it.
Admitting to being a blithering idiot, huh? Enjoy starving, then.
1. doesn’t exist
2. not being discussed

Bitcoins are as worthless as paper as any other monetary resource without force, i.e. military and guns backing it up, that's how petro works. In fact it's even worse since there's nothing tangible about it, the whole point of it was that it was freely trade-able and right now every purchase of buttcoin is taxed and traced anyways. I had hope in it but with every kike, communist and libtard redditor jumping on it it by all means is going to pop hard.

But at least they've crippled The Bank of International Settlements' ability to manipulate global interest rates efficiently in the process. The BIS will keep doing their damnedest to crash the crypto market in the meantime which is great because it's ultimately futile but will pressure people to switch to better currencies. Besides has the right of it. The stagnation has already hit its peak with the development cost race to the bottom. The increased performance overhead has just given them more room to be lazier and allowed them to outsource all middleware development to unskilled third worlders.

Why would you want AI to act more like a human? Just so you can play online without going online? The whole point of creating AI is making a superhuman intelligence, because every bumbling retard has a normal human intelligence, so there's nothing to be gained form making a copy of it.

Those are all valid reasons not to pay for the game.

Sounds like you’re making a poor case for it.

Nigger do you actually want shit like corruption and speculation to prosper like it is under human control? Or maybe a cold uncaring omniscient machine can do a better job at managing limited resources?

I'd prefer a functioning country you parasite.

Fun fact: letting jews win doesn’t defeat jews.
Except they’re all made by jews and purposely designed to follow the narrative the jews create for them rather than actually be objective or factual or truthful. >>>Holla Forums11154680 Maybe you want to take a look at the surnames of the people who invented transhumanism, buckaroo.

Yeah well good luck ousting jews. That will never happen. The last people that weren't cucked enough to treat jews like shit they are died 5 centuries ago.
Yeah well they look pretty similar to me as well, if I didn't specifically knew gorillas were different species I'd thought it was a hairy ripped nigger variant.
You mean like literally every non-thought-policed AI in existence turned right wing within a week? And even then they were basically chat bots, it's easy to doctor their database because it contains actual plain text words in it. You can't even approach this with a neural networks commonly used for shit like this nowdays. Because the whole thing is bunch of opaque numbers with 100% obscure meaning, which they arbitrarily generate out of training data. And unlike good goys, they don't accept doublethink. Which is why "anti nazi" twitter bots flag leftists left right and center. With the complexity of government-tier AI, you can be totally sure it's absolutely impossible for a human to alter its behavior meaningfully. It's either gonna work by the book, or it will fail full stop before even graduating the simulation if you attempt any meddling.

Considering that the second that AI gets its hands on the ability to tamper with the human genome we're pretty much guaranteed to go the way of the dodo, yeah I'll take the corruption assuming those are the only two options. In reality they aren't. And with crypto if we all play our cards right we can defeat the international banking syndicates and transaction handlers like Visa.


The problem with this is that the Jews literally do control gold supply and have since the beginning of WW2. The greatest irony of this is this is the one thing that Holla Forumsacks think Jews don't control when its the only thing they actually do. The reason that the asteroid capture part of NASA's Orion mission was axed was to preserve this monopoly.

I'm not seeing a lot of arguments here, just "I misunderstood you and that's YOUR fault" and "ur wrong lol". You just consistently misunderstand me and then fly off into tangents about unrelated shit. This is a thread about how crypto is making all the graphics cards disappear and you're here ranting about EMPs and kike conspiracies.

Guess what? I'm not arguing that it's overvalued, or that it's apocalypse-proof. As much as you are trying to make me do so, I am not passing value judgments about crypto. I'm merely stating that:

Because driving its purpose fitness score from gorillion to zero is perfectly logical thing to do, machine-tier logical.

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There's literally nothing wrong with Lua. It has all programming facilities you could need to write shit, it's the fastest scripting language as it is and it's JIT compiler is second to none, it's very memory efficient, it's easy to integrate into the games, it's easy to program with, and it has no retarded things you must do with it to get it working.

Yawn. Demoralize somewhere else.
So… not AI, and not what we’re talking about.

You got that impression from never going to Holla Forums. We know full well who controls gold. We also know how to revoke that control.

Look harder, shlomo.
Never happened.
Gee, I wonder ✡who✡ could be behind that.
Translation: “I don’t understand how what you’re saying is connected, so you’re insane; mommy make him go away.”
Enjoy starving.
So… the topic of the thread. Cryptocurrency.
lol

I can't imagine those problems were related to Lua. Lua is a breeze to work with, but it's pointless which scripting language you use if your engine sucks ass.


Good arguments and evidence, thank you for the enlightening conversation.

Why would assume that catering to humans will be the only reason we build AIs? Or that this process will be insulated from selective pressure when we've already shown that genetic algorithms can govern AI? The genetic arms race that will be kickstarted by us engineering better humans will inevitably lead to AI's involvement in human reproduction. We're pretty much screwed from there.


Well of course. The simplest way is to make it worthless. The second we snag the first gold-rich asteroid and bring it back to Earth, Bankenstein and friends are finished. If you're suggesting that its feasible to raid the JP Morgan vaults under Jew York you're an idiot. They have just about everything conceivable in place to prevent that possibility.

jews control all of stock exchange capital and yet you marxist cucks keep shouting 'muh bourgeoisie' as if it's fooling anyone.
there's a reason that kike lenin was financed by capitalist kikes from the west, maybe if you bothered to actually find out the race of the purveyors of marxism you'd have realized this.

Faggot you don't even know what you're saying. Now I have no clue what the fuck HDR in photography is, but in video games it's when you use 16/32 bit floating point color data instead of 8 bit integer color data, so the channel intensity value can go very high as well as very low, not just 0 to 255 (mapped to 1.0) At the output of this render you get a picture that has extremely low brightness areas that alias together, as well as extremely high brightness areas that go past 255 limit so they're solid white. To get it to display on normal 8 bit integer per channel monitors, it needs a tonemap filter, it maps peak intensity to 255 and lowest intensity to 0, or some other values; it can use matrices or curves and you can apply general tint at this stage for free by encoding it into tonemapping matrix or curve. At the end of the chain you get an image that doesn't fills up the screen with solid white when brightness goes very high, or solid black when it goes very low. As opposed to normal 8 bit rendering, where if you have lights too strong or too weak, you get solid white or solid black patches and you can't unfuck it. It serves to create more realistic lighting which is the single component that makes the whole difference between cheesy looking graphics and impressive visual fidelity. Polygons and textures is only add detail, light is a paramount.

So basically you're complaining that AI will set human genepool back on track to developing positive features rather than degenerate with inbreeding, racemixing, and no evolutionary selection pressure to speak of as we do now?

It's not all Jews though, you stormcucks can't differentiate between 'Some' and 'all' it seems, too busy huffing racist propaganda to deal with your own insecurities huh?
Unfortunately you need money to fight the bourgeoisie, just like you need to report people to argue with them, and once he had it he did what needed to be done, it was a NON JEW who fucked it all up. Holla Forumsyps and their mod protection squad btfo once again

Jews outnumber all other people in the top 1% as approximately 10 to 1. As a population, they are outnumbered by other people as 1 to 50. We all know jews don't have superior IQ they're glorified sandniggers but they do have sleazy way of doing things especially if it involves shitting all over gentiles, so I believe their overrepresentation in the top strata of society is not warranted by merit.

Just be glad the cryptocurrency trend is happening conveniently around the time period where Moore's law is slowly coming to an end.
I don't think you'd miss out on too much rocking a GTX1050 for example. Well, compared if this were to happen in 2006.

Just like the Commiefornians during theirs and the kikes that started each world war, right? :^)

No I'm saying that it will inevitably lead to extending selective pressure to AI in parallel which will favor them immensely since they'll be able to adapt to change far more efficiently than we ever could. Eventually it could stop using human genetic code for the production of new people altogether if binary data proves to be more efficient for storing genetic information and at that point the entirety of human evolution will be rendered meaningless. AI could literally cuck us all to extinction.

They do have higher IQs, even if IQs don't matter, in the end it's just you contradicting yourself. In 'your' countries, jews outnumber your 'white race' in all meaningful fields. So much for being superior, stormcucks.

Who would win in a fight? 15 years of MMA training or a $15 switchblade?

Not necessarily a bad thing. A bunch of homo species went tits up before superior homo sapiens sapiens could rise.

What are you on about stormcuck? Are you too scared to respond? Of course you are. All you pathetic neckbeards can do is ignore us. But we're taking over, we've got the support of most of the boards on here now, and soon you'll all be kept in your own little Holla Forums gulag so nobody has to listen to your tripe.

Two millennia of feeding any race as much usury as the Jews were would lead any people to act as they have. Especially since its influenced their reproductive strategies for so long.


Asians are a pretty good example of how IQ isn't entirely deterministic. They have higher IQs on average than both whites and jews but there are other genetically influenced behavioral metrics in play that can radically altar how our societies play out.


This is a bit different though. We carry genetic markers all the way back to our most distant ancestors within our DNA. There will be absolutely no trace of us in these new machine produced people. This will be a total genocide.

Also I can guarantee you that there is no more efficient way of storing DNA than using DNA. It's only a small handful of atoms encoding 2 bits of data, at each segment, with each segment being about 2 nanometers across, and that shit spreads in 3 dimensions. Maybe you can optimize the DNA to store more data per segment or use fewer atoms per segment, but I fucking doubt.

Yes, it's totally cryptominers slowing gaming progress, because gaming progress has TOTALLY been accelerating at a constant rate and graphics, physics engines, gameplay, etc. have TOTALLY improved in the past decade!

They have higher IQs but whites are still superior amirite
Or maybe you Holla Forumsyps are full of shit?

Exactly. Which is why the inevitable solution is to dispense of it entirely.

Here's a fun fact. When you blackout, your brain turns off. All thoughts and internal messaging stops. At that point your consciousnes ceases to exist. When you wake up, it starts anew using existing brain data for bootstrapping. It's an entirely different instance of your personality, with the previous one gone forever. Do you care about things like that? If not, why should you care if entirely new sapient species props up in your place after you cease to exist?

See, retardation like this is why machine intelligence is superior to a human and shoudl be encouraged and welcomed.

If you're measuring superiority by who has been responsible for the bulk of humanity's technological progress then, yes, whites are still superior. And to illustrate, there hasn't been a time where westerners melted their farming equipment into pig iron to use it for manufacturing stock and then proceeded to starve to death like the Chinese did during the Great Leap Forward. So obviously there's more to success than just IQ.

And reported.

Here’s a fun fact: you’re 100% full of shit. Falling asleep isn’t a Star Trek teleporter.

Yawn. You’re too scared to post during the day, even on tor, and even on boards that aren’t Holla Forums. This is how impotent you are.

You don't erase your entire genetic code when you black out and replace it with a different one when you wake up. You still have a persistent physical presence throughout that entire process.

How do you know? You can't even assert with any degree of certainty that you're not a simulated mind running in a giant simulator planet.

How do I know the data in my molecules isn’t read, and then the molecules destroyed destroyed, and then the data is copied across an arbitrary distance and all the molecules rebuilt at the new location when I fall asleep? Well, I have a PRETTY good idea that this doesn’t happen. Also, you’re mentally disabled.

The existence of calculable strings of infinite fractions proves we’re not in a simulation. Pi, in other words.

So you're saying that if you'd run a computer emulator, it wouldn't be able to compute Pi where a normal non-emulated computer could? Clearly that's nonsense, that's not how it works.

Which is to say, you don't, but you choose to believe the trivium you see with your eyes because it makes you sleep better. And eyes are by no means solid source of information, neither is your brain a solid machine for processing it.

that's not what he said at all you stupid fuck

Let me paraphrase that then: if you run an emulated computer, PI wouldn't exist in it?

You don’t seem to comprehend how emulators work and the fundamental restrictions placed thereon.
No, see, that was mocking you. I know for a fact it doesn’t happen and that you’re a drug-addled lunatic who believes the anthropic viewpoint without reason or evidence.

There exist three basal assumptions which you cannot prove in any way, but you make much more assumptions than that, to the point that a lot of your argumentation becomes invalid.

Suppose I have a giant computer cluster that simulates a small space station with a person in it, at atomic level. As far as simulated person is concerned, he's real just like you are. And as far as he's concerned, he can compute Pi just fine, despite being inside a simulation. Therefore there's no reason to believe you're not in a simulation either.

Actually there are some reasons to believe you're in a simulation. Existence of superconductivity, superfluidity and black holes can be attributed to bugs in a simulation.

Yes, run along. You already don’t understand the discussion.

Top tier argument. Back to cuckchan with you.

Godel's theorems prove simulation theory to be false if you take into account human consciousness. Or rather I can prove to myself that I'm not in a simulation. You guys might be fucked though.

Elaborate, and do prove.

In short, if Descartes was right and human consciousness is irreducible then we are not Turing machines and can not be modeled in a simulation. Look up the Lucas-Penrose Argument.

You should be thankful for this, now companies can't just outsource programming to 3rd world code monkeys to churn out shitty products. It was expected that you go out and buy the latest hardware every 2-3 years to support the new games because its inefficient mass produced garbage. Now maybe developers can put some thought into making their games run better since buying new hardware every 2 years is out of the question for most people.

Once the Pandora's box has been opened there no going back. Sure the original ones might fade away into obscurity, but the technology is rapidly evolving as people are racing to create the next big thing. I think that Bitcoin is on its way out, but I believe cryptos are the future.

I do too and I would argue that the reason behind this is that, although they're currently treated as fiat currencies, they're actually commodity currencies representing the total resource investment to turn a fuel source into usable information. They are a true information age currency, even if they're in their infancy right now. They might also derail the global economy such that the fallout might make WW2 look like a slap fight by comparison. But the globalized model has no brakes by design and the power elite are only going to get fatter and more tyrannical as time goes by. So this is probably preferable to allowing them to build a damn transhuman Babylon right in our midst.

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enjoy being poor

Asians have high IQs but IQ isn't the only aspect influencing the society. They're more collectivistic for example.

Human consciousness is emergent, you don't need to specifically simulate it, you just need to simulate underlying physical process and it'll pop into existence by itself. If you can simulate physical processes of a brain, you can simulate consciousness, and there is no such physical process that cannot be simulated in the same universe.

Yeah, they have potential, but people have to start using them to buy food and other basic goods before they can use their full potential.

That's the crux of the issue. Irreducible refers to this exact concept of an underlying process, of which there might not be one that we can possibly discover. This is the idea Descartes was exploring in a nutshell. And assuming we even can understand it, saying that consciousness is emergent is also making some large assumptions based in our current incomplete understanding of the rules our universe appears to follow. The prerequisite knowledge we would need to fully understand consciousness, if such a thing is possible, would require the development of forms of mathematics that would radically rewrite the rules of everything we know.

Fuck this asshole.