Is ddlc a good game

Such shit taste, op. If only it were legal to kill plebs.

It's an American rip-off of a Japanese VN that not only has far less content by comparison but also desperately tries to hide the fact that it only has one route, so no.

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It gives a generic "disturbing content" warning. Typical VN players would just assume that a bad end leads to suicide or something. Lol

It's only a few hours long max so if you like VNs it's not much of a time investment for you to try it.

It was short, it was free, I enjoyed it. It has a shitty/huge fanbase. Play it yourself and form your own opinions, most anons hate it.

fuck off

Literally not vidya. And neither are VNs.

Neither is your post.

VNs are vidya, despite your preferences.

i think it builds your anticipation that something bad will happen

DDLC is an easy game but it's still a game.

No.

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Isnt it a shitty rip off of another VN?

It would have been better if they just made it a vn about dating girls with severe mental problems.
Monika is a bitch and a sub-pajeet-tier programmer
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It's one of those things where community made shit is better than the actual thing.

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Monika did nothing wrong

It does. But then it just takes so damn long with the super saccharine fluff that you start to wonder if it was serious and then most probably forget about it altogether. Keep in mind that this originally wasn't on Steam so some might have assumed that the warning is referring to ero scenes or something if they went in blind.

I'm not so sure. The gameplay is barely there but it does have some.

VN can be discussed on Holla Forums out of tradition but they are not really games

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It sounds like a fetish or something.

this is what the manlet wanted to do as a "hobby" after he killed his old hobby known as project melee

No. Especially after the first reveal. It becomes absolutely laughable with endless "le creepypasta glitching" and I don't think they can excuse it by saying were "doing it ironically" because they're still doing it and it's still retarded.

But they are. you've clearly never played a difficult VN (single end VNs can also be hard).

Oh man, VNs are soooooo hard. The Dark Souls of reading games.

Overhyped e-celeb bait. It's unironically getting the same treatment as undertale where people flip their shit over it because OMG IT'S SO META
All the girls are shit. The writing isn't funny or interesting. The game deleting it's own files and going all creepypasta corruption isn't original or well done. It's fucking dumb and every shekel-hungry youtuber has already jumped on it because it's an easier meme game than Getting Over it

Yeah, just because you make it to the credits screen doesn't mean that you beat it.

So the guy who made the game is most famous for making a mod pack for Melee, and announced/released this game out of nowhere with a completely normal trailer and website. The only warning is that it should not be played by those "easily disturbed," so people playing it day 1 had no clue what they were in for. Now that it's a big meme game with tons of "let's plays" with clickbait thumbnails giving away the twists the appeal is gone. If you went in with no outside information it was a neat little thing that only took about 2 hours of your time.

And what's more is that the people doing this aren't even casual readers of VNs. It just the usual reaction video hype squad making their rounds.

Nope.

Check out this videogame

I can't "play" that though.

Sure you can champ, it's very difficult though!

You can only hit play on electronic mediums.
There's no play button on a book.

Some are, and some aren't. It's kind of like the relationship between anime and manga which traditionally occupy the same board. It's not quite this exactly mind you, but I think they're perfectly fine to talk about on Holla Forums.

He is also a speedrunner.

You don't get to decide what is and isn't a videogame now, if VNs are videogames so are CYOA books.

No, CYOA books are games.
Visual Novels are video games.

A game implies there is some kind of challenge to overcome. The majority of VN's are not intended to be 'won' but explored, seeing different endings come as a result of your actions, and many of them allow multiple positive endings/best endings depending on which romantic partner you chose, even if there is a preferred 'true' ending.
The majority require no skill in the form of reactions or problem-solving. They are not a puzzle that must be worked out, they are a maze where you keep trying different paths until you get the one that puts you at the end you were trying to reach instead of running into dead ends.

If anything, CYOA books are harder than the average VN, because you have to turn pages. And that's not even addressing game books, which have actual gameplay mechanics in them, literally elevating them above most VN's.

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VN difficult has nothing to do with input or technics like that.

I don't doubt that CYOA books can still be considered difficult board games though.

I agree they are fine to talk about on Holla Forums, but calling them games puts my autism in overdrive

these are just as much game as a vn if not more so, but they def are not VIDEO games
if Holla Forums collectively was okay with discussing them I wouldnt mind but eh

There is no difficulty in VN's because they aren't about winning. They are about seeing an ending. They are explorative fiction. Challenge is not normally an aspect of their design.
Many VN's can elevate themselves to the height of videogames by adding consistent gameplay elements that make skill a requirement to receiving the best ending, but the majority do not. Denying this fact is futile.

No, 100% linear VNs can be difficult. Clearly you haven't played many VNs at all.

Christ.

That's not how you do it, son. Check these out.

whats the gameplay like in a VN, please explain

Seek help.

Also?
Games require real agency.

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What a leap. Why do you assume that difficult has anything to do with winning? Nobody said that but you came to that conclusion on your own.

Unless you mean a fail screen, or a bad end. But that's not what I mean in regards to difficulty.

Western Shit developer puts good girls in shit game and takes an interesting premise but doesn't do anything unique with it except ripoff of some nip version that also did the meta horror though I don't really give a shit, and you can only get bad end or not so bad ending no good end for you FUCK THIS SHIT

Then what is 'difficult' about a VN if not entering a lose state?

VNs aren't action games. You've probably aren't used to playing games that aren't video games or the very occasional board game.

Games are any challenge played for recreationally, but winning and losing isn't the same as having a lot of points or having lives.
Sometimes, the purpose of a game is to come to a certain conclusion or to see something in a new light.

Seeing something in a new light is not difficult.
So what is 'difficult' about a VN if not entering a lose state?

So you're telling me that reading a book is now a game?

no

Putting up with the shitty writing and unbearable "moe" voice acting.

Yeah it is, that's why you never did well in math class.

Maybe it's difficult to choose or difficult to understand or difficult to put down.

No because you can't play books.

It has three or four routes, user.

And they're all simultaneously canon; you have to complete them all to get the best ending.

whats the gameplay like in your favorite VN?

And you can play a visual novel?

It's got choices you make that effect the outcome. I think that means yes.

So you can play a CYOA novel? If yes you can play a book.

It's not difficult. It is incredibly easy to make a choice. Then you can go back and do it again. See, even if the game somehow retains the data of your choice, you can clear that data and go through the game and do it again. No matter how 'meta' and clever your game thinks it is, it will never know that you installed it on another machine and played it again for different outcomes, or looked it up on the internet, or even just read the outcomes of certain choices in a text dump (much like reading a choose your own adventure book from left to right instead of skipping pages).
Hey, books can be difficult to put down too. I guess that means VN's ARE books.

Literally yes, then. I spent a fair portion of my childhood reading CYOA books with total failure states that would happen if you chose poorly. That is by definition a game. A traditional game, but a game. Put it in electronic format, and that makes it a video game.

What's the gameplay like in Sudoku?

Yes, you can also play a DVD.

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