Vermintide 2

Ayden Morris
Ayden Morris

What are the chances of these big ugly sons of bitches in Warhammer Vermintide 2? I'm actually hyped for the 2nd one now that they are including Chaos enemies. I think having Chaos as either a playable faction or enemies is a MUST in a Warhammer or 40k game. It just isn't the same without them. Who wants to fight only Orks and Rats all the time?

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http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Skaven_Pestilens
Ayden Bell
Ayden Bell

will vermintide 2 have blood ravens in it

Evan Cooper
Evan Cooper

The space marine chapter? I doubt it. It's Warhammer Fantasy not 40k

Asher Garcia
Asher Garcia

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Jeremiah Martin
Jeremiah Martin

Not sure what you mean.

Noah White
Noah White

What are the chances the game is good, unlike the first?

Anthony Anderson
Anthony Anderson

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Should this foul abomination indeed exist then it shall be purged.

Nathan Evans
Nathan Evans

We're all innocent here.

Ayden Bell
Ayden Bell

side question
Is Inquisitor: Martyr any good or do you know?

Owen Harris
Owen Harris

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Innocence proves nothing.

Hudson Allen
Hudson Allen

How the fuck are flying babies with robot skulls and tubes running all throughout their bodies not Heresy? Those things have always creeped me out.

Dylan Evans
Dylan Evans

Your ignorance shows.

Nolan Richardson
Nolan Richardson

<Innocence proves nothing.
Wasting digits on 1984 logic.

Christian Adams
Christian Adams

That's the actual logic the Imperium uses.

Cameron Reyes
Cameron Reyes

that pic
those digits
Give me my lungs back user

David Smith
David Smith

No.

Tyler Allen
Tyler Allen

it's going to be just of a lead on like the first one was

Caleb Ortiz
Caleb Ortiz

Expect them to only add chaos undivided and generic cultists.

Adrian Richardson
Adrian Richardson

Nope, already saw a demo vid.
Appears to be all Nurgle though.

Joseph Allen
Joseph Allen

generic cultists will be the "mob" reskin
chaos warrior the "storm vermin"
chaos spawn the "rat orge"
etc etc

Grayson Hill
Grayson Hill

Virtually zero. Greater demons are essentially undefeatable natural disasters that kill everyone within miles by simply appearing.

Cameron Brown
Cameron Brown

Dammit.
I just want a vidya version of this.

Asher Perez
Asher Perez

Maybe, but they were in Warhammer Online so never say never.
-dp sage

Jack Jenkins
Jack Jenkins

the devs couldn't into boss fights so don't hold your breath

Connor Parker
Connor Parker

Appears to be all Nurgle though.
Then I'm surprised, I would have figured they would go with Khorne before Nurgle.

Parker Harris
Parker Harris

Why?
The rats have allied themselves with the only chaos god that makes sense for a bunch of filthy rats.

Alexander Scott
Alexander Scott

apologies for double post

Sebastian Nguyen
Sebastian Nguyen

if it is I really hope it isn't age of sigma shit because fuck having a wow alliance/horde cuntery

Kevin Gomez
Kevin Gomez

first person anything
Why would anyone care?

Kayden Long
Kayden Long

I figured that only clan pestilence would ally with Nurgle it was probably a dumb thought though

Kevin Sanders
Kevin Sanders

No, I'm pretty sure you're right. They seem to be one in the same.
http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Skaven_Pestilens
Pretty sure these are the guys you're fighting.

Brayden Morgan
Brayden Morgan

thing is though we don't see anything from pestilence

Carter Reed
Carter Reed

I fucking knew the 56% forced meximeme art was stolen.

Aiden Barnes
Aiden Barnes

lel

Charles Flores
Charles Flores

From what the videos show there is no reskin apparent especially between rodents and chaos cunts.
The Stormvermin sword and shield variant will also have its own moveset similar but not identical to standard halberded Storms.
The same is true for the chaos spawn, while it is still a large melee focused mini boss it differs to the Ratogre. E.g. it can grab a character and feed on him in order to regain lost health. The Stormfiend is another ratogre but with twin fucking warpfire throwers I dunno if you wanna call that a reskin too but I certainly won't.

Bentley Morgan
Bentley Morgan

Clan Fester is according to the lore a vassal clan to Pestilence itself. They don't behave or fight like pestilence but they are no strangers to serving disgusting and toxic deities.

Camden Reed
Camden Reed

So it does have a single player campaign?

I now prefer WHFB aesthetics over LOTR itself, would be nice to have a RPG based on it, to complement the TW games.

Ethan Garcia
Ethan Garcia

If its anything like the first you should be able to play the whole thing solo with the AI bots even up the highest difficulty as long as you're good at blocking/dodging.

Wyatt Lee
Wyatt Lee

First game
bad

Ayden Edwards
Ayden Edwards

Skaven are beastmen (mutants from regular animal through chaos power, in their case regular rats through warpstone), all beastmen worship chaos, but typically in the form of "chaos undivided" not specific aspects of it.
Now the skaven don't worship the classic chaos gods, they have their own version of the God Emperor, the Horned Rat, the (retarded) events of the End Times in WFB revolves around the skaven trying to have the Horned Rat become a full fledged chaos god (which they largely succeed).
Pestilens officially reveres the disease carrying aspect of the horned rat (but the others skavens considers them heretics).

Isaiah Collins
Isaiah Collins

The first game was a less-good Left 4 Dead. That bodes ill for the second game.

RPG Loot Drop mechanics with very minimal progression
Levels lack real distinction
Hard to tell your campaign progression
Not as fun to blast away hordes as L4D
No in-mission progression of weaponry, you are the exact same at the start and end
Game is either a hack'n'slash in first person or a horde killing game at melee range
Cannot play duplicate characters
Sometimes the armoured rats (Stormvermin?) just stack all up on top of each other and one shot you without warning
The hunter copy gets to freely teleport when you catch it
The smoker equivalent gets to no-clip through allied hordes when it grabs you
The spitter equivalent never fucking hits
The ratling gunner has to be sniped every time making some people useless against it
The Tank replacement isn't as intimidating

The game was merely fine, but coming off the back of playing Left 4 Dead and Payday it's hard to say it did anything exceptional.

David Barnes
David Barnes

Wasn't Pestilens worshiping Nurgle all along? The plagues they engineer that end up killing millions of ratmen (((accidentally))) each time were a way for them to keep the clans from organizing and actually making a push against mankind before Chaos, I think I read that somewhere. Of course End Times screwed that up along with everything else.

William Sullivan
William Sullivan

Most of your points are utter shit, mate.

Sebastian Wright
Sebastian Wright

Orks when?

Ethan Kelly
Ethan Kelly

I want to fight the Undead.

Nathan Bell
Nathan Bell

tfw I will never be a paladin slaying hordes of orks from brettonian lands.

Nolan Hall
Nolan Hall

You will be slaying something worse, the fucking beastmen.

Juan Jackson
Juan Jackson

tbh fantasy chaos army is pretty shitty for this kinda game as they're all the same thing with just different degrees of warp fuckery.I wouldn't mind having a arena mode for them where you highly customize your dude for it but it just don't fits tbh.

beastmen would have been better tbh

Tyler Torres
Tyler Torres

Is this game still going to have the mandatory 4 player l4d shit in it? I hated not just being able to just play with 1 friend without being forced to have 2 bots tag along.

Gabriel Torres
Gabriel Torres

it'd be the same, only now you get to climb different class trees if you want

Nolan Bailey
Nolan Bailey

There is a mod for shit like that.
Download and install takes 10 minutes.

Nathaniel Cooper
Nathaniel Cooper

But the game is designed around needing 4 players so just disabling the bots from spawning doesn't fix the game.

Jordan Butler
Jordan Butler

if you're actually good at the game you don't need bots for it

Caleb Phillips
Caleb Phillips

Then why does the embedded video have bots?

Lucas Richardson
Lucas Richardson

The first game honestly felt like an incomplete game and with the amount of DLC's for it I feel like this should be a DLC rather than its own game.
I dont feel its worth buying it again to get a few more enemies since I bet they have very few maps again and will just sell more as DLC's.
Fuck people who enable DLC kikery.

Matthew Evans
Matthew Evans

because I thought otherwise

Alexander Murphy
Alexander Murphy

Orks are fucking gay and I hate people like you.

Alexander Hill
Alexander Hill

Its pretty sad that videos like these caused the devs to nerf the bow and staff with auto targeting.
Instead of buffing weapons that nobody uses because they're garbage they just downgrade the ones that are usefull.
No fun allowed tier balancing.

Jackson Cruz
Jackson Cruz

I'm serious, man. Fuck people who are content with one type of enemy in a Warhammer game. The main battle is Man vs Chaos and it should be that way for just about all video games if you're only gonna have one enemy, and Orks, man, orks are just the worst. I can't stand the greenskins.
Off topic: What is the 40k equivalent of Vermintide?

Colton Scott
Colton Scott

Dont worry they arent actual, human bebies but cloned familiars, worry about the fact that they dont use human babies because it would be much more expensive.

Brayden Nelson
Brayden Nelson

What is the 40k equivalent of Vermintide?
Space Hulk Deathwing, unless else something fits better.

Jackson Kelly
Jackson Kelly

Buffing the other bows wouldn't have done jack shit. People are too noob to actually aim properly with the ranged weapons in the game (citing it's too hard and/or "glitchy" to obtain headshots) so they have to rely on those auto-aim weapons to stay ahead of the pack. Whenever they get nerfed you get the same levels of sodium as the Democrats after seeing Trump getting elected. Rather than giving proper arguments as to why they should've been left alone, they just scream obscenities or give bullshit reasons like "it makes me feel like a bad-ass".

Good riddance with Trueflight mechanics, and I hope they don't come back in Vermintide 2.

Nolan Diaz
Nolan Diaz

almost as if the devs are hacks or something

Benjamin Walker
Benjamin Walker

It's a good thing you refuted them otherwise they would go untested.

Chase Fisher
Chase Fisher

First game wasn't bad, but they spent a lot of time in creating replayability with upgradable items but didn't make the base game worth repeated playthroughs.

Xavier Wilson
Xavier Wilson

vermintide1
hey this looks pretty good i think ill get it
better wait for a price drop though
free weekend comes along so i try it
everyones running ahead and niggering all the health items
refuse to stick together
someone goes down they are flat out ignored
gameplay itself is pretty repetitive and the melee is very unsatisfying.

BULLET DODGED

Adam Cox
Adam Cox

What are the chances of these big ugly sons of bitches in Warhammer Vermintide 2?

0

Isaac Russell
Isaac Russell

melee is very unsatisfying

wrong

Robert Nguyen
Robert Nguyen

Play Vermintide 1
Its one of my favourite games of all time suddenly
It's great, the community is not bad, the game has a challenge but it's not unfair except some RNG where you get fucked
Smart enemy spawn to punish rushers
Oh no two auto aim weapons are in the game, fuck. Oh well whatever
Oh no they are adding DLC of maps with new weapons and only the weapons drop from there
Thank god, if only one player gets the DLC everyone else can join his game without owning the DLC and get the weapons. Nice thinking in a group of friends only one has to buy it!
Buy one DLC each on the group, all dandy, it's amazing
More patches are in, the game becomes more popular and better
Casuals whine about getting kicked out of the hardest difficulty lobbies
They whine really dam hard and 1.9 patch comes
Buff weapons to the point that the hardest difficulty is a fucking joke
Infinite ammo no reloading mini guns that can work as a shotgun, bows that can 5 shot the biggest enemy in the game alone, OP shit everywhere
cry like a bitch due to devs destroying my favourite game, all of my friends leave
Uninstall and never come back

Julian Jones
Julian Jones

You drop a game because you happened to end up in a bad party the first time?
I dont actually believe you.

Michael Rogers
Michael Rogers

i played several and the experience was the same every time. So i assumed it was an entire community of faggots.

Zachary Price
Zachary Price

I always use the Conflagration Staff m'self. Regardless, a group in Vermintide with a good Bright Wizard is a group better off. A good Bright Wizard can more than make up for the shortcomings of the others, though not ALL of them if they choose to be so incompetent.

see pic
be a nigger somewhere else

Ugh, hold on, copypasta time…

"Second, if you hear that there's an RPG element to this game and feel that new players likely get mistreated, you're only half right. The levels you gain in this game are indicative of your overall experience in the game. Thusly, your level gives you no inherent advantages except for how others see/treat you. Lower level players are generally seen as junior, with most under the level 40 being seen as "noobs". Higher level players are seen as senior, with some people ridiculously high level to the point of being looked upon as being elite. Yes, this DOES harbor some elitism in the player base, but in general much of this can be circumvented by new players IF the new players either listen to the advice of the senior players OR show a decent understanding of the deeper nuances of the game. If you're a new player that's dropping fast and swinging wildly, don't expect veteran players to respect you or even give you the time of day. One easy way to know if you're worth your weight in salt: Are you performing better than the veteran's bots? If so, you're generally fine. If not, then you might want to start learning the game more. Also, remember that not all enemies should be confronted. Rushing into a fight can spell disaster, even more so when the veteran players know not to prompt an attack but a newer player forces it anyways, forcing the veteran players to waste time and resources having to clean up the mistakes of newer players."

What this means is simple: Since you were new, other new players were being retarded because of the difficulty you chose and/or veteran players simply did not see any reason to trust in your ability to be asset to them.

Adrian Russell
Adrian Russell

Fantasy is so irrelevant at this point the just the mere mention of Warhammer immediately is associated with 40k.
I would be angry if it wasn't fucking true.

Josiah Hernandez
Josiah Hernandez

Agreed. Fantasy had SO MUCH going for it.

Zachary Johnson
Zachary Johnson

had
For all the shit with GW and for all the laziness and bad programming at least Warhammer fantasy lives on somewhat in Total WaWa.

Carson Carter
Carson Carter

free weekend
Is surprised by the amount of shit players

Holy fuck how can there be people this retarded

Dylan Campbell
Dylan Campbell

How can anyone be hyped for Vermintide 2 after the colossal clusterfuck that was the first iteration?
Shallow, floaty melee combat and ranged weaponry that tear through rats like paper instead of meatbags.

Judging by the early footage of the sequel, the melee combat is just as bad if not worse.

Jayden Ross
Jayden Ross

implying Total Warhammer was good

Aiden Sanders
Aiden Sanders

Use the right mods and it becomes good enough, although CA's laziness and retardation are always visible.

Caleb Lee
Caleb Lee

Orks
Fantasy

Eli Phillips
Eli Phillips

Fantasy Orks (and the Greenskins in general) are pretty fucking awesome. Grimgore Ironhide is a brute of an Ork and could put most WH40K Orkz to shame.

Caleb Young
Caleb Young

I think he's pointing out that they're orcs in fantasy and orks in 40k.

Adrian Flores
Adrian Flores

Oh, I make that mistake all the time too.

Charles Torres
Charles Torres

Implying it's not

Charles Gutierrez
Charles Gutierrez

No matter how much you polish a turd, it'll never turn to chocolate. Adding mods to fundamentally broken game doesn't do jack shit to make it good. You would have to revamp the entire strategy layer and the combat phases which no mods are going to do that.

Dylan Collins
Dylan Collins

Oh yeah, because games with retarded loops can ever be good.

Isaac Bell
Isaac Bell

I really liked Vermintide, some of the weapons hurt the experience for me though.

Wish they'd add a Brettonian.

David Reyes
David Reyes

I honestly cannot see them ever doing that.

I was always hoping for a Warrior Priest, personally.

Aaron Bennett
Aaron Bennett

vermintide
I'd much rather see a Warhammer Fantasy RPG, but given how development goes today and the Age of Sigmar stuff, I'm hesitant to see it come to fruition.
Orks
The funniest guys, but outclassed by so many others.
Wish they'd add a Brettonian
How would they put a horse in the game?

Kayden White
Kayden White

your dub dubs are blessed by Sigmar

Joshua Cox
Joshua Cox

This trips are blessed by Tzeentch.

Ayden Bennett
Ayden Bennett

Nigger what?

What is this retarded loop?

Sebastian Gonzalez
Sebastian Gonzalez

I hate what they did with the Elf since it reminds me of the retardation GW did with them in the End Times.
All that shittalk she would say about the High Elves and Dark Elves will be redundant unless they somehow write it to be given more background and reason than what we got but probably not.

Colton Brooks
Colton Brooks

still no baldman
I'm waiting for Markus class reveal and eventual bald Markus with hammer

Kayden Russell
Kayden Russell

Wouldn't Saltz be the most likely to dawn Warrior Priest armor though? Not that I necessarily want him to, I'd rather just have ONE new character. Even as a paid DLC

Ryan Brooks
Ryan Brooks

DLC
The game has mod support though.

John Martin
John Martin

That might be true, but, well, yeah. I'm that desperate.

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