Kingdom Come: Deliverance

Leo Richardson
Leo Richardson

reminder that Daniel Vavra's magnum opus is being released in exactly one month

Will Warhorse Studios save vidya, Holla Forums?

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Angel Bennett
Angel Bennett

I thought it was NEVER EVER like Bonerlord

Ryder Gonzalez
Ryder Gonzalez

I feel confident i upgraded my PC for this.

Ayden Perry
Ayden Perry

The combat will certainly be shit.

It's bonerlord for the console audience.

Dylan Wright
Dylan Wright

Bump for a kike free game.
No forced diversity here.

Liam Allen
Liam Allen

Just out of respect for Vavra, this is going to be the very first game that I'll buy at full price, except for the very cheap ones. If it turns out to be uninspired mediocre shit, well, at least I can get an early negative review in.

Colton Walker
Colton Walker

I will be sure to buy it new as well, but likely down the road when I've upgraded.

Thomas Walker
Thomas Walker

Will Warhorse Studios save vidya, Holla Forums?
We will see when it releases. Hope it turns out well though, Vavra is a decent guy and deserves some success (if the game is not shit of course).

Joseph Davis
Joseph Davis

open world
quest markers
voiced protag
generic historical setting
muh realism
looks like shit

Nicholas Allen
Nicholas Allen

bit annoyed he jewed me out of my gnu/linux version but whatever, hope the game succeeds. Don't bother playing the beta, it's 100 percent garbage, capped at 30fps regardless of your hardware, and there's not shit to do. It's not representative of the final product for sure.

Ayden Kelly
Ayden Kelly

From looks alone, it will be one of 2018's unspoken finest at best, or Kickstarter failure #138671236 at worst. I think the ultimate deciding factor will be how the game actually ends up controlling.

This is probably the one game this year I'm REALLY hoping doesn't suck.

Isaiah Cooper
Isaiah Cooper

Vavra should have stayed the hell off social media. I don't care if he's telling cunts to fuck off, Twitter drama is never worth it.

Butterlord will drink from his skull

Jonathan Thompson
Jonathan Thompson

realism
Vavra's idea of realism is doing "realistic" nonrewarding chores like eating a bowl breakfast and throwing eggs on somebody's house only because the game tells you to do so. Meanwhile, the combat is even worse than Dark Souls.

unspoken
Lots of youtubers are shilling for this game's hype. When it fails to deliver, it's going to fail spectacularly.

Christopher Watson
Christopher Watson

hoping the game fails
not rooting for a guy who didn't bend the knee to SJW hordes calling for niggers in the game
Are you melanin rich?

Parker Phillips
Parker Phillips

buy this shit game because the devs pander to your political opinions
Feel free to post that masked SJW image as a futile retort.

Thomas Gutierrez
Thomas Gutierrez

It's a consolized garbage with autotargeting and DDR combat. A shit game is a shit game. No alt kike meme can tell me the otherwise.

Jeremiah Sullivan
Jeremiah Sullivan

One thing I like is when you ask someone for directions somewhere, rather than putting a mark on your map, they give you practical directions that ramble on for a full minute or two. A long description of landmarks to look for and which way to turn, rather than "follow this magical dot". That pleasantly surprised me.

The combat will certainly be shit.
The combat feels like an upgraded version of mountain blade's combat, and yeah, it's kinda shit. I had a terrible framerate when I tried it out, though, which made blocking and parrying very difficult, but it felt pretty good to pull them off. I'm shitting on the fence for this one.

If those czechs or slovaks or whatever can properly optimize this game such that I can get 60fps, it might be a good time. At present, I push about 20 and it feels like a very pretty slideshow.

Chase Price
Chase Price

Never said to buy it, stop sperging.
Just asking why he hopes the game fails so badly.

the combat feels like an upgraded version of mountain blade's combat, and yeah, it's kinda shit
Agreed, hoping PC version is stable

Lincoln Roberts
Lincoln Roberts

One thing I like is when you ask someone for directions somewhere, rather than putting a mark on your map, they give you practical directions that ramble on for a full minute or two.
Well I don't complain about this. Doesn't necessarily make the quests any less shit however.

The combat feels like an upgraded version of mountain blade's combat
How come? M&B has no autotargeting unlike this shit.

Jack Walker
Jack Walker

M&B has no autotargeting
have you even played the game?

Mason Stewart
Mason Stewart

Doesn't necessarily make the quests any less shit however.
This is true.
M&B has no autotargeting unlike this shit.
You can disable the targeting and go manual-mode, but that presents the same difficulties as with mountain blade because you have to swing your mouse in 5 directions+neutral to choose your swing or block direction.
It's kind of fun and kind of a hot mess as of the latest beta build, so I'm interested to see if they've addressed any of that for the live version when it comes out.

Brayden Peterson
Brayden Peterson

sjw free game
finally something that tries to be realistic and historically accurate
beautiful european setting
numales and weebs itt already butthurt
Please be good. Fingers motherfucking crossed

Asher Rodriguez
Asher Rodriguez

It doesn't have autotargetting and nothing similar to it, nigger.

Dylan Lee
Dylan Lee

don't make reinstall it just to screencap it and display your retardation for all to see

Jason Carter
Jason Carter

As with M&B, I don't use mouse to control the swinging direction, I use WASD. You can disable the autotargeting? Well, I didn't know this tbh.

numales and weebs
nice projection

Julian Miller
Julian Miller

It has auto-block and shit, I'm not aware of autotargetting, in any case that's a plebeian setting no one should use. Only multiplayer is worth touching and it has fixed settings with no easy mode and no auto block.

Joshua Howard
Joshua Howard

auto-blocking is autotargeting
retard

Joshua Barnes
Joshua Barnes

You are on Holla Forums, of course there are weebs and numales here

Grayson Davis
Grayson Davis

I'm not saying it is you faggotron.

Easton Gutierrez
Easton Gutierrez

I thought it was NEVER EVER like Bonerlord

I thought so too, especially since the game still looks unpolished as fuck. I figured they'd delay it again but they seem to be pretty set on releasing it in February.

Aiden Cooper
Aiden Cooper

I mean, I have my fill with Warband and many other games. What I want from this game is some good fucking atmosphere and maybe a good story? I am going to this with zero expectations, if it sucks it sucks, if not, I am glad they atleast tried.

BANNERLORD FUCKING WHEN SERIOUSLLYYYY FUUUCCCKKKK

Colton Wood
Colton Wood

inb4 early access

Christopher Taylor
Christopher Taylor

generic historical setting
Medieval setting is absolutely uncharted territory only multiplayer games go into, crusader kinds and M&B.

Brody Sanders
Brody Sanders

This makes me think actually. What was the last game where we actually had a historical medieval setting without fantasy stuff in it aside from Medieval 2:TW and CK2?

Joshua Brooks
Joshua Brooks

I just want to play my medieval simulator game, hoping for that Mafia 1 and 2 autistic eye of detail, combat looks pretty move shit for the last 6 months of update vids they gave out.

Luis Ortiz
Luis Ortiz

I don't know man, I didn't look at footage recently but from what I've seen in the last few years it looks like shit. But I do hope it turns out good

David Perez
David Perez

Just because not a lot of games do straight up medieval settings with no fantasy doesn't mean it isn't generic shit. It's overdone in every other medium to the point that it doesn't matter that its a videogame. Historical settings are pretty shit in general too, why not just make an original setting instead?

Daniel Wood
Daniel Wood

Le horshoe XDDD
Fuck off, goon.

Bentley Roberts
Bentley Roberts

Fuck off faggot.

Your original setting sucks.

John Gonzalez
John Gonzalez

Original how? Just put yourself in an acid trip then piss all over it until it vaguely resembles something recognizable?

Gabriel Foster
Gabriel Foster

I can't wait for this fucking game. Vávra is a sperg that has some sort of personal grudge against Bethesda (probably due to being an rpgcodex poster) and went on an autistic rant back when Skyrim released about how awfully shit it is and how shit Beth is. Here are some excerpts:
21. Todd Howard correctly guessed that if he admitted that they're still using Gamebryo, it wouldn't be good for the game's image. So they renamed the engine to Creation and it immediately sounds better. Doesn't matter that everything's practically identical to Oblivion and Fallout 3. This is not the same technology! Look, we added shadows!
28. Bethesda also claims that it doesn't use procedural generation so much. That 150 dungeons for the game were made not by one person like last time, but 8 people. It doesn't really matter. Dungeons are still as lame, and if the landscape wasn't generated by an algorithm, but a person, they should fire him, because it's so generic that many an algorithm would've done a better job (just look at Red Dead Redemption).
30. It's a bit strange, that the vast majority of interiors in the game has no windows. Kind of depressing, but also logical, since windows would give away a certain Bethesda peculiarity, it being…
31. …that upon entering a house, something magical happens to the space-time continuum, or the main character gets shrunk, because the size of exteriors and interiors never matches. You can find kilometres of hallways in every shed, along with massive dining halls. Most developers faced this issue due to mainly 3rd person cameras some 10 years ago. They solved it and today most games have interiors and exteriors match. Bethesda, of course, doesn't care about such "fads".
49. Even in 2011, Bethesda didn't figure out how to not make people entering buildings vanish like ghosts. It's really difficult to make a black cube behing the doorframe and have them disappear in it.
73. I'd have Todd Howard draw a real bow and aim it on him foot. After he shot himself in it, maybe he'd understand, that using a bow requires stamina and he'd finally model it in his game
74. That Bethesda is a group of invalids that never lifted their ass from the chair is sad. Even sadder is, however, that they project their impressions about movement into the game, and so the main character cannot sprint for more than a few metres, not even downhill.
75. He has no problems with jumping down thirty metres, however.
76. Nor with swimming in full plate in a frozen, northern sea.
77. Even the horse is a cripple unable to gallop for more than twenty metres down the hill.
94. The logic of villagers, who build their villages underneath dark castles and are not only wondering about where do all those vampires come from, but don't even know about the castle ten metres behind their homes, is astounding.
96. The horse is an imbecile that never misses a fight and usually gets himself killed.
109. Dead bodies remain lying in the streets for infinitely long, and nobody does anything about them. It's lame. It's really lame, how everyone walks around them and screams "Jesus, what happened here!" when the body's been lying there for a week already.
<"100+ reasons why Dan Vávra hates TES V: Skyrim", November 2011

Gabriel Adams
Gabriel Adams

Some of these are pure "muh realism" autism, like sprint distance or bow stamina even though bow stamina should be implemented if only to nerf bow assassins because they are OP as shit. He's pretty spot on about the others.

Christian Gomez
Christian Gomez

the entire list is like that. It's all either muh realism (to the point where he complains about the lack of toilets in Sykrim), nitpicking about various bugs, or actually spot-on criticism of Beth being scumbags

Aiden Miller
Aiden Miller

swimming in full plate in a frozen, northern sea.
Except when your character is Dovahkiin, a TES universe's Thor.

Ian Jones
Ian Jones

God. Why did they hire hungarian voice actors with annoying speech flaws?

Julian Jackson
Julian Jackson

Implying weeb is bad
Reddit mutated the word to mean anyone who likes nip shit. When it started as a nonsense word that came to stand for any faggot that wished they were a nip and rejected their ethnic origins

Justin Reed
Justin Reed

Doesn't really allow him to break basic laws of physics.

Michael Martinez
Michael Martinez

By eurojank standards it looks pretty polished.
Which is a little sad to think about.

Adrian Rogers
Adrian Rogers

Castles and armors are fine but this better have boobs and whore coz medieval time where boring and full of diseases. I am not playing this for more than a few hour without an ass reward here and there.

Jackson Jenkins
Jackson Jenkins

I'm sure the creators of kingdoms of amalur and lords of the fallen and dragon age and fucking elex all thought the same when they created their "original" settings. I'm sure those developers thought they were fucking top gun auteur creatives at the time and would be remembered as geniuses in the years to come.

Better to see if you can create something authentic before going for originality.

Jaxon Rivera
Jaxon Rivera

Another shitgame which will get cut in half, sold for double and features removed to please a certain audience.

It is too big to be good.

Remember: Games it not anymore about making a good game; It's about making a game that makes good money.

Eli Fisher
Eli Fisher

Games it not anymore about making a good game

Cameron Harris
Cameron Harris

Well, it does. But only when he shouts.
Which means in order for that to work he would either have to constantly shout while swimming or propel himself across bodies of water by shouting.

Colton Price
Colton Price

Bethesda didn't deny that Creation is Gamebryo. They changed the name not due to marketing purposes, but it was because Emergent Game Technologies sold the Gamebryo engine to a Korean company back in 2010. In Skyrim, they still credited Emergent as the developer of the engine, they just avoided using the Gamebryo name since it had became a property of other company.

It originated from /b/, weebcuck.

Tyler Butler
Tyler Butler

Cryengine
It’s going run and look like shit

Jayden Harris
Jayden Harris

I had the same feeling about Mafia I honestly. His game are massively jerked off about by OMG MUH REEEEALIIIISM crowds.
Like, Mafia 1 is a good game, but it is MASSIVELY overrated within the aforementioned circles because MUH PLOT and MUH REALISM. It's funny that it is also placed in the same category as GTA when it's not open world at all aside from a bonus Free Ride mode where you can dick around.

Daniel Sullivan
Daniel Sullivan

GTA IV
as good as Mafia 1
Yeah, that guy's a dumbass. Mafia 1 is worse in every way except if you're looking for a 30's NYC themed game. GTA IV might be realistic, but it had no chores and you were allowed to have fun. Mafia is a lot more akin to Driver 2 with shooting than GTA. Actually, scratch that, Driver 2 actually had competent mission design and cop chases, Mafia is just boring.

Tyler James
Tyler James

Oh don't even get me started on the cult that formed around GTA IV. It is also a good game sure but my god these guys are delusional, they think GTA IV revolutionized story telling in games and cite watered-down features that have been in RPGs for decades as proof (like "deep moral choices"). And for some reason Mafia 1 is hailed as the second best game ever made in that circle.

Cameron Richardson
Cameron Richardson

shit developers means shit performance
God damn but I hate "game engine" becoming such a wildly used term. Game engines don't make games, developers do. Look at The Forest. Guess what engine it uses, Unity. It runs great, it looks great, but there's dime a dozen shitty games that run bad and look bad made on Unity too.

Wyatt Stewart
Wyatt Stewart

Are you talking about RPG Codexfags? Oh yeah, these guys have autism. I usually take their opinion with a grain of salt.

KCD in particular, judging from the footages, has had a lot of graphical downgrades and choppy framerate though.

Christian Fisher
Christian Fisher

graphical downgrades
I have yet to see any myself.
choppy framerate
We only have the alpha from a bajillion years ago and the youtube footage which is at maximum settings 1440p.

Josiah Gray
Josiah Gray

I have yet to see any myself.
I remember the earlier builds looking extremely realistic. Last trailer looked as ugly as Fallout 4 if not even more.

Henry Rivera
Henry Rivera

Nah, it's far worse. The GTA IV community is legitimately the worst I've had to deal with, other fanbases might be more autistic but at least they're not as toxic attacking everyone who disagrees while demanding to be treated like royalty.

Owen Rodriguez
Owen Rodriguez

I dunno, I saw recent gameplay and it looked insanely good.

Nicholas Nguyen
Nicholas Nguyen

toxic

Julian Bennett
Julian Bennett

Forget what I said, I was hyperbolic. Yeah, just watched that again, it definitely looked better than what I remember.

Asher Torres
Asher Torres

The word has existed before leftists, brainlet

Benjamin Cox
Benjamin Cox

Tbh I consider GTA IV to be the best GTA game myself, but I don't deny that the game is still flawed. I wish they remade Vice City with GTA IV's physics and more side content like randomly generated missions, that would be the greatest game ever.

John Gray
John Gray

Yes, meaning a substance that does physical harm. But to use it in the non-literal sense is pretty much a librul thing now.

Gabriel Miller
Gabriel Miller

who the FUCK cares, shut up already

Jace Nelson
Jace Nelson

Censorship is also a librul thing now.

Logan Reed
Logan Reed

open world
<Implying thats bad for and aRPG
quest markers
There will be probably an option to disable them, and even if not its not "direct" quest marker as you can see, more of a general area
generic historical setting
<Hussite wars
<generic
Hang yourself you faggot
muh realism
Realism = fun

Andrew White
Andrew White

There will be probably an option to disable them

Ah yes, just like Skyrim, huh? Then the player can enjoy not knowing where the fuck to go because the devs just slap a marker on your map without providing proper directions.

Blake Kelly
Blake Kelly

Realism = fun
realistic physics = fun
realistic chores = not fun

Christopher Nelson
Christopher Nelson

You can ask NPCs for directions, actually

Ian Martin
Ian Martin

realistic chores = not fun
What are you a faggot?

Julian Phillips
Julian Phillips

The NPCs give you very good directions.
At least know what you're talking about before shitting on a game.

Landon Scott
Landon Scott

Only if they fix their shitty console combat.

Ayden Cook
Ayden Cook

Only if they fix their shitty console combat.

Probably too late for that. It still looks like two dudes whacking each other with sticks while wearing pillows for armor.

Jack Green
Jack Green

This game is THE game for medieval combat though, what game has better combat than it?

Tyler Bennett
Tyler Bennett

This game is THE game for medieval combat though
No, it looks like Mountain Blade for the Soulslike audience who prefer rhythmic combat more than actual dynamics.

what game has better combat than it
Chivalry, Mordhau, M&B, Severance, Exanima, etc.

Especially Exanima.

Mason Bailey
Mason Bailey

Mount and Blade are indeed about people whacking people with sticks, since swords can damage plate armor, Severance is also the same.

Haven't played Mordhau and Chivalry, and Examina isn't an action game?

Logan Gutierrez
Logan Gutierrez

Looking good, not sure how I feel about the matrix time stuff is about all.

Joseph Allen
Joseph Allen

since swords can damage plate armor
Severance is also the same
So? They're fun, those games have great controls and a lot of improvisations. Gameplay matters more than realism. That For Honor trash might be more of your speed.

Examina isn't an action game?
Are you stupid?

Levi Thomas
Levi Thomas

Except we were talking about realism, considering Kingdom Come does try to do the realism thing?

Are you stupid?
It doesn't look like an action game to me.

Cooper Taylor
Cooper Taylor

The one where you don't have to select an enemy and the attack type before you are allowed to attack?

David Martinez
David Martinez

kickstarter
Whoa there buddy, cool your horses. Do we need to bring out the reminders?

Nathan Thompson
Nathan Thompson

Which is what?

Samuel Gutierrez
Samuel Gutierrez

Of course, something could still go horribly wrong, but it looks like they've made a lot of progress since earlier last year.

Henry Martinez
Henry Martinez

see
Especially Exanima.

Christian Hernandez
Christian Hernandez

In that list, only Examina does anything special, and it's not even an action game.

Kingdom Come does take state of armor, blade angling into matter so it's league beyond something like MnB and Severance.

Ryan Perry
Ryan Perry

only Examina does anything special
Every single one of them are special. There's nothing like their combat.

Kingdom Come does take state of armor, blade angling into matter so it's league beyond something like MnB and Severance
I never said anything about realistic statistics and shit. It's about controls and gameplay.

Noah Wilson
Noah Wilson

Well, consider myself off then since I was arguing about realism.

Kingdom Come tries to be realistic, you see?

Dominic Cooper
Dominic Cooper

But the gameplay itself isn't very realistic, that's my argument. It's only realistic on paper, the actual combat is stiff rhythmic garbage.

Nolan Lewis
Nolan Lewis

Seen the gameplay, how is it rhythmic again?

Easton King
Easton King

These armor mechanics are wasted on how the combat flows it's just whack-a-mole with six points.

I played it in the beta it feels like Olympic fencing disguised as medieval combat.

Jonathan Thomas
Jonathan Thomas

It's one of the games that the game journo bugmen decided they're gonna blacklist so that's one of the reasons to buy it.

Aaron Flores
Aaron Flores

Judging a game by it's tutorial.

Luis Flores
Luis Flores

Oh please, Olympic fencing is way faster.

Christopher Hughes
Christopher Hughes

Sorry should have said slowed down Olympic fencing, my mistake.

Ryder Carter
Ryder Carter

I dropped GTA IV after a week when i bought it. Turned it back it, it stunk.

And i used to be a big GTA-fan.

Gabriel Ward
Gabriel Ward

I don't want to be a cunt, but GTA IV is the best GTA gameplay-wise and SA-fags are the cancer of GTA community.

Colton Peterson
Colton Peterson

Best GTA was vice city. After vice city there was only wigger/nigger shit.

Ethan Bailey
Ethan Bailey

Best GTA was vice city
Best setting,music score and characters?Sure, but not gameplay wise;in that department GTAIV blows it out of the water.

Ian Robinson
Ian Robinson

VC does have the best setting, funniest characters, and best missions, but come on, GTA IV is still more fun to play with the amazing physics.

Cooper Watson
Cooper Watson

No you got it right, I don't know why you faggots are comparing the game to M&B or Exanima because from the gameplay videos I've seen it's basically Dark Messiah with a really choppy flow and terrible group combat.

Liam James
Liam James

I don't compare it to M&B and Exanima, I was just showing that there are many games with far more enjoyable combat out there.

Robert Roberts
Robert Roberts

14148695
I'll gladly buy any game that panders to my political opinion, even if it's shit. Money talks, and the culture not being degenerate os infinitely more important than video games. Kys

Kevin Wood
Kevin Wood

don't get caught up in a cult of personality

Elijah Jenkins
Elijah Jenkins

14148695
It should be in the best interests of the market to provide alternatives in their content.
The great majority of western-made games in the last years have been political in some way due to their creators not being able to contain their autism. The rest are apolitical, so there really would be no harm if we had some more games with conservative leaning political subtext to balance out the market.
Not that this game in particular is political in the first place. Vavra going for historical accuracy in his product is in itself a non-political issue; his reaction to the "journalists" reacting to said historical accuracy is.

Then there was this faggot at the GDC claiming that the entire game-making process is and should be political, or something like that. I say that we take their advice to heart and beat them at their own game.

Zachary Cooper
Zachary Cooper

uh, like, how mainstream
i want something, like, really different instead of caring about the gameplay.

Jaxson Smith
Jaxson Smith

Can someone tell me what's so bad about the combat? I watched the gameplay videos and it looked pretty good to me – lots of different angles of attack, lots of timing, stamina management… Seems a lot better than the button mashing that passes for combat in RPG's nowadays. All you did in Witcher 3, for example, was spam LMB while occassionally rolling from away danger.

Jason Morris
Jason Morris

Gameplay-wise

No that's exactly why i turned it back in, it wasn't fun. It was choppy as hell, the shooting was too easy and the driving was a weird experience where hitting a small bump in the road could make you fly out of your windshield.

It was a shitty game and not as fun as the GTA-games used to be, there was too much emphtasis on the story. GTA3 was the funniest one.

Easton Evans
Easton Evans

It's stiff as fuck because it's timing and rhythm based. A good combat should be movement and momentum based. See Exanima.

choppy as hell
It wasn't a good PC port indeed.

the shooting was too easy
Nowhere as bad as zero recoil shooting without strafing in GTA 3/VC or the weightless projectile-less shooting of GTA SA. Easy or not the shooting is really fun.

driving was a weird experience where hitting a small bump in the road could make you fly out of your windshield
I almost never fly out of the windshield unless I crash into something deliberately. Maybe you just suck.

too much emphtasis on the story
I don't like the emphasis either, but it's skippable.

GTA3 was the funniest one
No bitch, VC was.

Nathan Hernandez
Nathan Hernandez

Exanima is a tech demo that diverges quite far from the industry standard, not to mention it has its own bag of problems.

Carter Garcia
Carter Garcia

I'm exited but it looks like theres to much extra shit added without adding any significant value. I'm concerned their trying to rope in too much of the general gamer crowd and not keeping it a super niche title which i think it needs to be. im willing to deal with a little bit of janky game play, weird non game breaking bugs and generaly less polish so long as its interesting and lets me do my HEMA shit. over the past two years though i've become more and more concerned that its going to be both janky and less interesting as they shoe horn in a bunch of shit to try and sell the game to normals on Reddit. hopefully I'm worried about nothing and the game is good.
it was for a while but the updates and game play footage have been pretty steady for a while now.
I'd still wait a month or two.

Camden Richardson
Camden Richardson

To be fair it's fucking weird how there is only like three toilets in all of skyrim.

Gabriel Barnes
Gabriel Barnes

I enjoy M&B but combat is not one of the aspects I like nor would I willingly replicate it in any game if I had the power to choose. Exanima has a high skill floor just so you don't look like you're drunk, and even then most of the fun comes from the arena throwing shit like Ogres in full plate after you and the dungeon crawler aspect.

Logan Sanchez
Logan Sanchez

The combat looks ok but the rest looks like it's going to be a skirim clone. We'll see

Dylan Cox
Dylan Cox

industry standard
Who cares about industry standard, if you were creative you'd be the one to impose a new standard. The industry needs more daring people with a distinct but fully realized vision.

combat is not one of the aspects I like nor would I willingly replicate it in any game
Why? Is Chivalry more your speed?

Exanima has a high skill floor just so you don't look like you're drunk
Nothing quicksave can't fix. Anyway, I'm not saying that they're supposed to blatantly copy Exanima's combat. I'm just saying that the combat is extremely fun, and it would be great if AAA devs could replicate the same feeling of satisfaction. My point is momentum based combat is more enjoyable and dynamic than rhythm based game.

most of the fun comes from the arena throwing shit like Ogres in full plate after you and the dungeon crawler aspect
It would still be fun if the ogres were people.

the dungeon crawler aspect
Exploring towns is dungeon crawling on it's own, only on a bigger scale.

The combat is literally one of the worst thing about it. You've got to be a pleb if you can't see it.

Joshua Morris
Joshua Morris

Why? Is Chivalry more your speed?
Chivalry? Of all the possible games you'd come up with it's fucking Chivalry? Fuck you I compare games with similar gameplay and Jedi Knight Outcast and Academy blows Mount&Blade out of the water I do not like Mount&Blade combat even though I enjoy the game.
Nothing quicksave can't fix.
What?
It would still be fun if the ogres were people.
The Ogres are just up scaled human models, so I don't have a damn fucking clue what you're on about.
Exploring towns is dungeon crawling on it's own, only on a bigger scale.
Nor do I understand what the fuck this is supposed to mean besides telling me you've never played a dungeon crawler outside Exanima.

Brayden Ramirez
Brayden Ramirez

Who cares about industry standard
Everyone? The average serves and will always serve as a point of refference. If you shit on anything and everything that isn't "THE BEST", then your critique will be bordering on worthless, as you'll make little distinction between something deeply below average, and above average. In fact, this is the case with your entire post. You do not acually criticise the combat, you just go "it would be better if it was like X".
<What's wrong with those muffins?
Cupcakes are better! If the baker was any good, he'd make cupcakes!
^This is your entire post.

Lincoln Gray
Lincoln Gray

Where's the full thing? Seems to have been purged.

Jeremiah Bell
Jeremiah Bell

Jedi Knight Outcast and Academy blows Mount&Blade out of the water
Yeah, but those games will trigger Vavra's autism like no other. That kind of combat would fit well in a game about sword and sorcery like Elder Scrolls and not the middle age backwater walking simulator Vavra's obsessed with.

What?
When the game gets to hard, just load the quicksave and try that segment again alright.

The Ogres are just up scaled human models, so I don't have a damn fucking clue what you're on about.
I was about to say the same thing, actually it was me who didn't have a clue about what you were on about.

Nor do I understand what the fuck this is supposed to mean
I mean, open world is just dungeon crawling with towns and forests instead of corridors and walls. I know, that sounds stupid, but yeah.

You do not acually criticise the combat
Actually I have. Look up my ID, I've made like 30 posts already. The combat is stiff and technique based instead of momentum based. A good combat game would have a lot more freedom in movement and momentum, this one doesn't give you much freedom of improvisation. It works best with target locking, that should tell you something.

Colton Cooper
Colton Cooper

filter mr. (24) because he's a nitpicking sperg who's giving me a headache
90% of the criticism of the game in the thread disappears
interesting.

Dominic Collins
Dominic Collins

no argument
Even IGN and sony shill for this game, I wouldn't be surprised if I'm the 0.1% who doesn't like it. But I don't like it for a solid reason. It's not nitpicking, it's standard video game design.

Zachary Jones
Zachary Jones

I remember playing the beta, and the combat was indeed shit. It was essentially just Simon says but with parrying, and blocks. The best way to get a hit was to act like a retard so your opponent couldn't possibly guess your move, and then strike him. It's a farcry from something like mount and blade which has no fucking lock ons, and actually requires a lot of technique and skill to handle by comparison, and even more to master (if you're not using auto block/aim etc).

Xavier Miller
Xavier Miller

mount and blade
technique
the game looks like everything was RNGd into existance, everything is shit and looks the same
the only "tactics" you get is what the retarded generator gave you
you are delusional

Jacob Edwards
Jacob Edwards

besides that i enjoy fucking around in it thou

Matthew Taylor
Matthew Taylor

If I ignore most of the criticism theres little criticism towards the game
Genius.

Eli Davis
Eli Davis

I mean, open world is just dungeon crawling with towns and forests instead of corridors and walls. I know, that sounds stupid, but yeah.
That's wrong, though. Dungeons are completely differently paced than the rest of the game. In a good game, they cause you to manage your resources very carefully and there's a significant investment/risk involved. Of course in Skyrim it's all just a fun happy theme park, not sure if that's what you were going for.

John Fisher
John Fisher

ignore one person out of 63 UIDs
Don't be fooled by a loud minority

Christian Cox
Christian Cox

We aren't tumblr, faggot, and we don't give a shit whether they're a loud minority or not, unless someone is spamming Filtering IDs is the premier bitch move.

Cooper Hernandez
Cooper Hernandez

Saving screen space by omitting worthless posts is a bitch move
Sounds like you're the bitch with nothing worthwhile to say. Now, doesn't that just make you want to filter my post? It's not as if they can't start over again in the next thread you whiny baby.

Luke Young
Luke Young

Vavra
Vajra himself said it's like Skyrim so instead of comparing games that are not like Skyrim compare games that actually look similar. Dark Messiah, Arx Fatalis, Skyrim, Dishonored, etc.
actually it was me who didn't have a clue about what you were on about.
Exanima is a simulationist game, despite whatever you've seen on youtube the controls takes roughly 20 hours to get proficient enough in not to look like you're both drunk and have cerebral palsy then you just look like you're drunk, from there you'd need about 200 hours to get to the level of the really skilled players who make it look easy. The fun is because it's simulationist there is all kinds of shit you can get into when Demons and Ogres get thrown in the mix. That said Demons and Ogres are still just upscaled humans using the exact same model as the humans in the game so it still looks floaty, off, and kinda weird. Control wise it is worse then M&B.

Tyler Evans
Tyler Evans

No, it doesn't make me want to filter your post because I'm not a pussy. My fee-fees aren't so harmed by conflicting opinions and criticisms that I feel a need to hide away from such 'terrible' things.

Oliver Lee
Oliver Lee

Sounds like you're the bitch
Says a guy who made a useless blogpost where he cried about blocking a mean poster
Wew

Dylan Morales
Dylan Morales

Nigger there are times when some faggot refuses to stop posting, he has over 30 replies in the thread and you're just sick of seeing his circular argument and the morons responding to him. It ends up occupying a very significant portion of the thread/my screen. You can't just pretend like this doesn't happen. It's technically not spam either.
ur not cool if you dont accept everyones shitty opinions like me
The "not caring about anonymous opinions" thing works both ways dumb fuck. I care about some of the posters on this board so little in juxtaposition to how much they've shat up the thread and occupied my monitor real estate that I am going to filter them because I do not care about their opinion anymore and it's wasting space.

Owen Price
Owen Price

Go play multiplayer instead of playing against the AI and see where flailing like a retard gets you then.

Bentley Cruz
Bentley Cruz

b-but this man hurt my fee-fees more than usual!
I don't care. You're still nothing but a pussy if you feel the need to block out a conflicting opinion. Plus, you do realize that by ignoring the cancer instead of actively fighting it, it'll just keep coming back and bringing friends, right?
accept shitty opinions
Oh, no, don't get me wrong, I never said accept, I said don't block them out. I think the poster is a massive fucking retard, but that still doesn't make you any less of a little bitch for filtering them and feeling the need to announce how hard you clenched your asshole in anger when you saw him contradicting your opinions.

Jeremiah Walker
Jeremiah Walker

Who are you talking to? I didn't say any of that. Are you lost? Do you really think running around screaming "Hey guys, if you use these immensely convenient features integrated into the website, you're a BITCH!" is going to work on an anonymous board? Especially when we routinely get raided by outsiders for reasons varying from marketing to political subversion that nobody wants to talk to unless they're retarded? Ooooh, I can feel the social pressure bearing down on me! Better not filter!
I mean, don't get me wrong, I love to argue, hence why I haven't filtered you yet. But it also means that I have been arguing on the internet for a very, very long time indeed and I really just don't have the patience for the amateur hour bullshit anymore, like your childish strawmanning in that post for example.

Tyler Jones
Tyler Jones

I didn't say any of that
Not in as few words, and you definitely tried to downplay the fact that you still just can't handle differing opinions and conflict so you have to blo- I mean, filter posters you dislike. But you did indeed say that.
Especially when we routinely get raided by outsiders for reasons varying from marketing to political subversion that nobody wants to talk to unless they're retarded?
Fair point, Arguing with raiders and shills won't really change much. But you can't really tell the difference between a shill/raider from a random wanderer, and it's easy to mistake stupidity for malevolence, so I maintain that it's better to scream autistically at them than to cover your ears and eyes in response to them.
But it also means that I have been arguing on the internet for a very, very long time indeed
Been here longer than you faggot, and while I can understand that you're fatigued and sick of the bullshit It's no different for alot of us The cancer isn't gonna go away by ignoring it, and what few genuine newfags there are will just see you as a faggot when you filter people and go on to announce how you filtered them.

Liam Taylor
Liam Taylor

Reminder that it can't run on a GTX 1080

Aiden Brooks
Aiden Brooks

I really don't understand how you think that giving morons attention is going to make them go away. Do you think anyone likes being ignored? Also, anything the individual thread might have had is lost when you turn it into some kind of stupid shitposting battlefield. The site would be better if more people filtered, on the contrary. Again, it's not like anyone who is actually sticking around will be affected because IDs change on a threadly basis.

Adrian Russell
Adrian Russell

You smell like a goon upset that people aren't tolerating your bullshit.

Lincoln Bell
Lincoln Bell

Wow the game looks alright but my god that has to be the awkwardest commentary I've heard in awhile.

Leo Young
Leo Young

Heh, you don't wanna block out opinions?
You must be a goon
I'll accept your strawman if you accept that you're a pussy.

They like being able to voice their opinions unchallenged. Even if they go ignored, they see silence as weakness, and will just keep coming back since hey, nobody fought them, so they must be winning, in their minds atleast.
The site would be better if more people filtered, on the contrary.
Yes user, I too hate any sort of discussion, especially ones that involve disagreement.
Again, it's not like anyone who is actually sticking around will be affected because IDs change on a threadly basis.
See the above post. At the end of the day, filtering someone just lets them keep peddling their bullshit unimpeded. Sure, it's not going to affect you, personally, anymore, but what're you gonna do when things get even worse than they are now and the majority of the active posters are people you always filter?

Wyatt Scott
Wyatt Scott

I'm sorry man, the scenario you describe is just fucking retarded and there is no way I can take you seriously.
Sure, it's not going to affect you, personally, anymore, but what're you gonna do when things get even worse than they are now and the majority of the active posters are people you always filter?
Leave because the effort of clicking filter is more than the benefit of posting here. You seem really dense, so I'll say it again: the echo chamber you're describing doesn't exist because filtering goes away in a new thread and those "valuable disagreeable opinions" you are thinking of (when I'm thinking of autists who shit up a thread like we are now and shills) are free to voice themselves onxe more.
You know how I know I am right? Because /pol/ still hasn't collapsed. If what you are saying was true there would be an entire subgroup of /leftypol/ and shareblue shills who post amongst each other and get ignored by almost everyone. But that doesn't happen; I still see Maddowposter in every other fucking thread, I still see Asses and Elbows, etc. These people have been posting their garbage for so long that they are instantly identifiable despite their anonymity because they always post the same shit. Meanwhile when an actually decent topic gets discussed by people with interest in discussing it, these fuckers can be filtered by everyone trying to trade information. And you're going to shed a tear for these fucking people. I don't understand it.
b-but i was talking about anons with different opinions
And I was talking about obnoxious faggots, I really don't know why you keep strawmanning me to be some guy who filters everyone who disagrees with him while I continue to argue with you, right now.

Jordan Long
Jordan Long

I just want a normal RPG that comes close to Ghotic (2).
I don't think that they will actually pull it off, but they might come close to it.
without dragons and other fantasy shit

Leo King
Leo King

That's a fair point. I suppose I'm just paranoid about having an echochamber.

Daniel Thomas
Daniel Thomas

Nice dubbadubs. You are on the premier anti-echo chamber location of the internet. People here say it sounds like an echo chamber are anons who have been here so long that they've forgotten what a real echo chamber sounds like. Yes, there are some topics which are mostly agreed upon, but every community eventually gains some form of identity or grounding; it's inevitable. My conclusion based on what I have seen from going and visiting other discussion forums and sites after having been here so long is that this is still the most diverse site in terms of opinion. Reminder that there are people who visit this board regularly, possibly in this very thread, who:
<Bought and still play Overwatch
<Bought and still play Skyrim
<Bought and maybe still play Battlefront 2
<Bought an Xbox One
It may disgust you but it's definite proof this isn't an echo chamber. The most active posters are actually a loud minority who have been here for ages and the majority of people here probably only post once every few days or so and then fade back to lurk in the shadows.

Noah Peterson
Noah Peterson

Hating your own race is good
Weebs should die

Jaxon Ramirez
Jaxon Ramirez

learn to read.

Jordan Walker
Jordan Walker

Maybe you should faggot or learn how greentexts work.
By saying "Implying weeb a weeb is bad" he is implying being a weeb isn't bad and weebs are people who hate their own race.

Tyler Morris
Tyler Morris

He's saying the modern usage isn't bad, as no one uses the old meaning anymore.

Luke King
Luke King

Reddit mutated
This makes it somehow the good term

Ryan Wood
Ryan Wood

What I meant is open world can be somewhat harsh too when you're out in the wild surrounded by enemies without healing items around and without knowing the direction you're going.

Vajra himself said it's like Skyrim so instead of comparing games that are not like Skyrim compare games that actually look similar.
I understand what he tries to accomplish, but sword combat in FPS view is not quite as fun as TPS view. FPS view makes directional blocking feel a bit easier, that's the only advantage. But at things like dodging, hop strafing, rolling, doing acrobatics, and having spatial awareness, TPS wins. There are a lot of things in Severance and Jedi Knight that can't possibly be done in FPS mode.

If I was him, I'd make the camera view interchangeable between FPS and TPS. When you're sheathing your sword or using a bow, the view mode is FPS, but when you're combat ready the camera view automatically turns into TPS.

despite whatever you've seen on youtube the controls takes roughly 20 hours to get proficient enough in not to look like you're both drunk and have cerebral palsy
I've played it a while myself, and while you're right about it, it's still fun. I won't pretend that it would be okay to put this kind of combat in a AAA highly commercial game, but I can't deny that it's the least boring combat I've ever experienced. I could spend hundreds of hours playing this kind of game.

Sorry for my autism brah. I was just replying to every user that replied to me. Aside from that, many gaymers seem to be clueless about what makes a combat good, which kinda triggers my autism because this is my favorite subject in video game design.

Julian Reyes
Julian Reyes

What games would you recommend anyhow?

Parker Morris
Parker Morris

If I was him, I'd make the camera view interchangeable between FPS and TPS. When you're sheathing your sword or using a bow, the view mode is FPS, but when you're combat ready the camera view automatically turns into TPS.
I already said this before the combat flow is completely choppy with everyone just standing there temporarily pausing every time, putting it into a third person camera isn't going to fix that problem at all.

Kayden Martinez
Kayden Martinez

So if I were hypothetically working on a game with sword fighting, you guys wouldn't like it to have a target locking system? It'd have to be somewhere in between Dark Souls and Mount & Blade, such as the combat seen in the Jedi Knight series?

Anthony Collins
Anthony Collins

Don't ever listen to Holla Forums on game design, especially not the edgelords that only post "muh X" with meme arrows.
If you absolutely have to get your cock sucked by Holla Forums the best you can do is make porn.

Carson Hall
Carson Hall

t.yandev

Brody Bennett
Brody Bennett

Target lock is a shit replacement for good camera and controls. See those 2 games you mentioned

Cooper Diaz
Cooper Diaz

I have never seen a lockon system that wasn't a total liability against more than one guy so fuck them.

Ethan Young
Ethan Young

The game looks fun.

Xavier Baker
Xavier Baker

Will this game have Jews and the ability to persecute them?

I mean this is a historical European game.

Michael Wright
Michael Wright

I thought you left Yandev. Also, do you still have that webm you made where you read out that letter written to you one word at a time by Holla Forums? Your second point is correct though.

Michael Taylor
Michael Taylor

Hope the game succeeds if the devs don't go full Jew, but I don't think I will play it. Besides, it's not like I actually can play it any time soon with the computer I have now.

Kevin Sanchez
Kevin Sanchez

Full plate
Where are the firearms?

Ian Baker
Ian Baker

So do they get an arm and a leg each or is one of them a passenger? How does this work?

Gavin Anderson
Gavin Anderson

I agree the journalists are acting like giant faggots but you can't act like he's not contributing to it himself when he wears stuff like his #based shirt.

They each control half, which is amazing considering despite that they can cook, job, and drive a car.

Charles Brooks
Charles Brooks

It's not purged, but it's fully in Czech, so I just translated the points I found amusing and posted them here. here's the source: https://games.tiscali.cz/tema/100-duvodu-proc-dan-vavra-nesnasi-tes-v-skyrim-57711

I think in one of the videos, they showed you can be racist to Germans due to the historical circumstances at the time

Jack Johnson
Jack Johnson

How does marriage/intercourse/child-rearing work? Is one legally married to two people simultaneously? Would their child have one dad and two moms?

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